[Mojo]

Are there any PS3 game installs that are over 10GB? I'm fine with 1-2 installed games at a time, but are there any that may exceed the usable space on this model?

[Y2Kev]

MGS4 is about to be. I think GT5 can go to 10GB or so?

[xKilltheMx]

Was 16GB ever confirmed as not a typo?

[Chacranajxy]

Well if you wanna buy a retail PS3 game from PSN, you're probably boned from the start.

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

DC Universe online

[FloppyDelux]

Was 16GB ever confirmed as not a typo?

i hope it was a typo, 16gb seems a bit to small since you have to install a game before you play it, which is why people like me, bought a 500gb+ hard drive for that machine and installed it no prob.

[Y2Kev]

i hope it was a typo, 16gb seems a bit to small since you have to install a game before you play it.

I don't think there's any -required- installs larger than 5GB. But optional ones can be quite large. I guess MGS4 will be around 15gb?

edit: Maybe DCUO, I have never tried that game. Oh, and maybe RAGE? But I think that one is 8GB.

[Kafel]

Are they going to write on the box that you can't play DCUO with that system ?

[RoboPlato]

Rage is 8gb required, my biggest. DC Universe Online is 18Gb, which I think it the overall record.

[RPGCrazied]

I made the 20gb 360 HD work when I had one, even though was super annoying to constantly delete stuff to make room. I probably wouldn't even bother with this model. Thank goodness I already own a 120gb slim.

[pharmboy044]

With the way PS3 handles downloads/installs, the largest file you can have is 8GB for this sized hardrive.

[Mojo]

MGS4 is about to be. I think GT5 can go to 10GB or so?

How does MGS4 work now? From what I assume it installs chucks every chapter (that can be deleted after you're on the next one?), still possible with the patch?

Was 16GB ever confirmed as not a typo?

Doubt it's a typo at this point

[metalslimer]

That model is just for friendlier pricing to the mass market (maybe 150). If you actually need the space you'll get a higher end model. Plus you can add an HDD if you really want.

[Y2Kev]

How does MGS4 work now? From what I assume it installs chucks every chapter (that can be deleted after you're on the next one?), still possible with the patch? Doubt it's a typo at this point

Yes. I'm sure you will be able to install every chapter if you want.

[Dead Man Typing]

GT5 currently takes up 11GB on my HDD. I wonder if it can go bigger as it installs while you play. That's with no DLC, too, but that may already have been included with the content patches for compatibility while playing online.

[funkystudent]

What is GT5 after patching?

[jett]

The PS3 will take up a portion of those 16GB, so you'll be getting less of that actually.

[test_account]

With the way PS3 handles downloads/installs, the largest file you can have is 8GB for this sized hardrive.

Indeed. It is different when installing from a disc however. Then you can install i.e 10GB without any problem.

What is GT5 after patching?

Around 10.5GB i think. I deleted it recently to free up some space.

[Roto13]

DC Universe online

Yeah. That's 18GB or something. Though it installs differently from most games so you don't need another 18GB free to do it.

[nasos_333]

Was 16GB ever confirmed as not a typo?

That was probably a mistake, it would be a nightmare to have so little space in a system with mandatory installs for most games

[xKilltheMx]

How does MGS4 work now? From what I assume it installs chucks every chapter (that can be deleted after you're on the next one?), still possible with the patch? Doubt it's a typo at this point

If not a typo thats absolutely retarded. What point is 16GB on a system where one install will destroy all of your space?

[Mojo]

How big are Wipeout HD Fury/Journey? I assume most non-retail PSN games are 2GB or under?

[Durante]

If not a typo thats absolutely retarded. What point is 16GB on a system where one install will destroy all of your space?

The point is selling the system for cheap, while still providing the minimum necessary to play any game. That should be obvious.

And really, as you can upgrade with a standard HDD, it's actually a great deal IMHO.

[Meisadragon]

If not a typo thats absolutely retarded. What point is 16GB on a system where one install will destroy all of your space?

It's a basic model for market penetration (if true), and at this stage in the PS3's lifecycle, it won't be surprising if they release it. I really doubt it's a typo since it was found on an official correspondence.

[Chacranajxy]

The point is selling the system for cheap, while still providing the minimum necessary to play any game. That should be obvious. And really, as you can upgrade with a standard HDD, it's actually a great deal IMHO.

It should also be obvious, then, that having next to no space when you need space to even play a lot of games means that Sony has disincentivized buying games.

[test_account]

The point is selling the system for cheap, while still providing the minimum necessary to play any game. That should be obvious. And really, as you can upgrade with a standard HDD, it's actually a great deal IMHO.

Yep, this means that you dont have to pay any extra for a HDD if you plan on upgrading it anyway.

[metalslimer]

That was probably a mistake, it would be a nightmare to have so little space in a system with mandatory installs for most games

Doesn't the Halo 4 MP take up more space than is offered in the current Base 360 model

[xKilltheMx]

It should also be obvious, then, that having next to no space when you need space to even play a lot of games means that Sony has disincentivized buying games.

This.
Thats why it seems crazy to me. They automatically limit the amount of games you can play, and when software is where the money is - why do that?

[test_account]

It should also be obvious, then, that having next to no space when you need space to even play a lot of games means that Sony has disincentivized buying games.

This. Thats why it seems crazy to me. They automatically limit the amount of games you can play, and when software is where the money is - why do that?

If it is a problem, then it is best to buy a model with a HDD included. If people arent aware of the space issue on the 16GB model, then they can always (most likely at least) install any 2.5" HDD. These shouldnt be too expencive, so luckily there is an easy solution to this "problem" (it is only a problem if people dont check up on it first).

It also comes down to which games you're going to play. Some games doesnt require any installation at all, while others might require a few GB. It should definitelly be manageable, especially for those who are only going to play a few games.

Doesn't the Halo 4 MP take up more space than is offered in the current Base 360 model

Yep, you need 8GB of space.

http://www.xbox.com/en-us/marketplac...o-4-experience

[Loofy]

This. Thats why it seems crazy to me. They automatically limit the amount of games you can play, and when software is where the money is - why do that?

I dunno whats crazy. Sonys employing the Xbox arcade strategy. Get people to upgrade themselves.
And please dont start arguing that you dont need an HD to play 360 games... thats crazy.

[BlazinAm]

Wouldn't the 16 gb PS3 have a slot for installing sata hard drives?
Makes me thinks that all the models will be 16gb plus the hard drive size for the respective model.

[Mandoric]

16GB isn't going to cause any compatibility problems that the launch 20s don't. It may sell Sony-branded upgrade HDDs, though.

[Atolm]

How big are Wipeout HD Fury/Journey? I assume most non-retail PSN games are 2GB or under?

Wipeout HD Fury is around 1,9GB, and Journey less than 700mb iirc.

[Sid]

What is the largest mandatory install?i recall yakuza games having ~5gb mandatory installs each

[Ridley327]

What is the largest mandatory install?i recall yakuza games having ~5gb mandatory installs each

Both Silent Hill: Downpour and Max Payne 3 had installs of around 5.5 gigs, so I imagine that's the upper limit of required installs, barring exceptions like DCUO.

Digital downloads are another story entirely; inFamous 2, for example, is about 15 gigs installed, which would obviously be way too much for the 16 gig model.

[Speedymanic]

Somewhat old list,

Assassin's Creed----------(Required) 1.3Gb Burnout Paradise---------(Required) 0.4GB Battlefield BC----------- -(Required) 0.4GB Blazing Angels---------- -(Unknown) 2.00 GB Civilization Revolution-----(Required) 0.65GB Conflict: Denied Ops -----(Unknown) 2.60 GB Call of Duty 3 ------------(Unknown) 0.60 GB Conan--------------------(Required) 0.67 GB Dead Space--------------(None Required or Optional) Devil May Cry 4-----------(Required) 4.83 GB Dark Sector --------------(Required) 1.2 GB Dynasty Warriors 6--------(Optional) 1.86GB Eye of Judgement---------(Required) 1.9GB ET: Quake Wars-----------(Required) 4.2 GB Fallout 3------------------(Required) 4.3GB Far Cry 2 -----------------(Required) 3.5 GB Folklore-------------------(Optional) 1.04GB Fear ----------------------(Required) 2.5GB Full Auto 2----------------(Optional) 1.7 GB GTA IV--------------------(Required) 3.3 GB GT5 Prologue--------------(Required) 5.24GB Genji: Days of Blade--------(Optional) 2.14GB Haze ----------------------(Required) 3.82 GB Hot Shots Golf 5-----------(Required) 3.61Gb Heavenly Sword------------(Required) 2.1GB Little Big Planet------------(Required) 600Mb Lost Planet----------------(Required) 4.9 GB Lost: Via Domus -----------(Unknown) 3.00 GB MOH: Airborne-------------(Required) 1.95 GB Mobile suit gundam---------(Optional) 4.2GB MLB 08 The Show----------(Required) 2GB Metal Gear Solid 4----------(Required) 4.0GB +(optional) 1.1GB for MG online Ninja Gaiden Sigma--------- (Optional) 3.3Gb Nascar 09------------------(Required) 0.13GB Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm (Required) 3.92GB Oblivion--------------------(Required) 4.6GB Orange Box ----------------(Required) 0.6GB Oblivion GOTY--------------(Required) 5+GB Overload Raising Hell--------(Required) 3.33 GB Ratchet & Clank Future------(Required) 0.42GB Resistance: Fall of Man------(Required) 0.22GB Rainbow Six Vegas 2--------(Required) 3.00GB Ridge Racer 7 --------------(Optional) 5GB Spiderman 3----------------(Required) 2.6Gb Spiderman Web of Shadows (Required) 1GB Skate --------------------- (Required) 2.6 GB Splinter Cell Double Agent----(Unknown) 0.86 GB Soul Calibur IV---------------(Optional) 2.6GB Time Crisis 4-----------------(Optional) 2.45GB Top Spin 3------------------(Required) 3.6 GB Timeshift -------------------(Required) 1.02 GB Turning Point: Fall of Liberty--(Required) 2.52 GB The Bourne Conspiracy-------(Unknown) 4.7 GB Unreal Tournament 3---------(Optional) 2.4GB Valkyria Chronicles-----------(Optional) 4.0 GB Virtua Fighter 5--------------(Optional) 2.34GB Virtua Tennis 3-------------- (Optional) 3.40GB Warhawk w/boosters---------(Required) 1.1 GB Warhawk w/o boosters-------(Required) 1.25GB Wipeout HD------------------(Required, PSN Game) 998 MB WWE Smack. vs. Raw 2008---(Required) 2.4 GB Yakuza 3--------------------(Optional) 5GB

[CopyCat]

What is the largest mandatory install?i recall yakuza games having ~5gb mandatory installs each

Rage has a 7.3GB mandatory install. As far as I know this is the largest mandatory install at this time.

[Arklite]

There's a handful of games that are huge, like GT5. Other than that you'd just have to be careful with full game downloads. Those will destroy your storage.

As for the people confused about the 16gigs, it's obviously just a ploy at make an appealing entry system, the same strategy MSoft had used with it's $99 box. You get the box in people's homes and then they'll buy accessories later.

Bottom line is also the same -- don't get the entry level system.

[Marche90]

With this thread I remembered what I was wondering the other day:

Is there a comprehensive (updated) list of the PS3 games that have some sort of installation feature/mandatory install? I think that that kind of list would be a handy thing to have for those that are planning to buy the base 16 gb model.

(Yes, depending on the price, I'm planning to buy one of those. And yes, I am that poor, I always need to make every penny count if I want to buy something videogame-related, so no 160 gb ps3 slim for me)

[AgentP]

A histogram of required game installs for all PS3 games would enlighten many. People tend to "count the hits", that is remember the large installs and forget the small or zero ones. A casual person picking up a random game is likely going to be able to play many games before having to delete data. Buying a full retail game from the PS Store is not something a low end 16GB owner should do knowing the limitation of going cheap.

A 16GB is a great gateway drug. Get in cheap and upgrade the HD later if you play more than anticipated. A much better idea than buying a 160GB system and upgrading it later.

[Canis lupus]

Somewhat old list,

Was the install in Yakuza 3 optional?

[Sid]

Both Silent Hill: Downpour and Max Payne 3 had installs of around 5.5 gigs, so I imagine that's the upper limit of required installs, barring exceptions like DCUO. Digital downloads are another story entirely; inFamous 2, for example, is about 15 gigs installed, which would obviously be way too much for the 16 gig model.

Rage has a 7.3GB mandatory install. As far as I know this is the largest mandatory install at this time.

Yeah,i hope everyone who picks up this model is aware of this terrible situation coz these are just the installs and then there are the patches too,which are themselves pretty big for certain games like lbp,lbp2,gt5 etc.,overall this model is not very consumer friendly at all

Was the install in Yakuza 3 optional?

i don't think the ~5gb installs for both yakuza 3 & 4 were optional

[H_Prestige]

i hope it was a typo, 16gb seems a bit to small since you have to install a game before you play it, which is why people like me, bought a 500gb+ hard drive for that machine and installed it no prob.

I have a 160gb model and I've used way less than 16gb of it. Not every ps3 user is downloading or installing tons of stuff. And you can always toss in a generic HDD anyway. As long as it's priced less than $200, it's a great option.

[Shadow780]

What's the largest HDD PS3 can support right now?

[madmackem]

This model isnt aimed at people downloading loads and playing mmos just like the 4 gig 360. Its aimed at people who want a bluray player a netflix lovefilm internet connected device.

[H_Prestige]

What's the largest HDD PS3 can support right now?

I don't think there is a limit.

[OldJadedGamer]

Rage has a 7.3GB mandatory install. As far as I know this is the largest mandatory install at this time.

The install cap for non MMO games used to be 5 gigs but some games like Rage got exceptions but they are not the norm. The 5 gig cap is what made MGS4 install each chapter as they had to keep overwriting the original 5 gigs.

But large installs used to be the norm and have settled down but this doesn't matter to new buyers of the 16 gig flash unit since they won't know what is new and what is old... everything will be new to them.

[paskowitz]

MGS4 is about to be. I think GT5 can go to 10GB or so?

My GT5 install size is almost 20gb... it is by far the largest.

[UnluckyKate]

Somewhat old list,

That's my list. Updated (as much as possible but in french here.

So far, Rage, 8gb. But GT5 with installs plus updates is bigger

[Lagspike_exe]

They're aiming for the Singstar/Buzz/Wonderbook crowd. Which doesn't really care about DC Universe or Rage. GT5 instalation is optional and doesn't the rerelase already have most of the big patches n the disc itself?