[Sushigod7]

But he's going to try the game out. Read his posts. In. The. Thread. Valk 3 isn't as well-received as the original was, but it's still pretty great stuff.

Sorry to clarify I'm saying in general.

[Sgt.Pepper]

The guy already said he is going to try the demo...

[Finaika]

I have both games, the art style is quite similar but I'm stick with the first one in design and story. Honestly it's difficult to follow Valkyria 2 story without a proper translation. And about Valkyria 2, this video sums everything that's wrong with that game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt_17Z2PZJ4

I'm confused.

Is this game about an epic war story or is it some generic harem high school anime?

[cheststrongwell]

Trophy whores are the worst.

[VertPin]

How could anyone say no to Selvaria :(

perfect match up. and yes get the game.

[SatelliteOfLove]

Is the game being a game not enough? Why does it need trophies to be worth playing?

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Nah. Raita at least has a decent understanding of perspective, though that's a bad angle to show off Selvaria's bosom. Liefield just isn't a good draftsman. At all.

[Boney]

Are you serious? I do, really.

Are you serious?

[alfredofroylan]

I'm confused. Is this game about an epic war story or is it some generic harem high school anime?

Amazing isn't it. That's why they decided to drop this style and setting in the third game, rumors says that Sega decided to made the second game like this thinking in a broader audience but it backfire. There're few characters with interesting stories in the game (Mischlitt and Noel in my opinion) the rest of the characters have missions like: "find a flower that only grows once a year because you'll find your true love" or "Deal with the fan club of one of the students".

[randomkid]

man, finding out the valkyria artist is a big old perv is kinda depressing. i always figured the terrible art for 2 was done by someone else and the pic in this thread really looked like fanart to me. i cracked open my art book finally as a result of this thread and the growlanser thread though and i'm reading things about how much he enjoys drawing mammary glands and how disappointed he was that a selvaria swimsuit scene was cut from the game. i never thought his art was kaneko/amano/kobayashi/terada level but geez dude, pull it together.

[cosmicblizzard]

Raita's one of those crazy H-doujinshi artists that got the job simply because of something they barely remembered doing. In his case, he got hired because of this concept image he did for a game called "Gallian Panzers". I still haven't finished reading the UDON Press artbook made for the original game. It's just so big and rich with information, and the way it's bound makes it a little too difficult to read comfortably.

Wait, that's Raita? As in Katawa Shoujo Raita? Huh, didn't know that.

[Valnen]

Yeah, can't play any games that don't have pointless virtual rewards, now can we?

Everything in a game is both pointless and virtual. None of it is real. Who are you to judge someone for wanting something that you don't?

[Dragoon En Regalia]

I'm surprised Raita ever got the job. He is talented, though. The fact that he's in the H-doujinshi business doesn't detract from the fact that he knows his craft. Those illustrations and releases help pay the bills, after all. And most men like breasts, especially when drawing them is your job. He can't hate the job without his output decreasing immensely.

And, yeah, Raita apparently came up with the original concept for Katawa Shoujo. How odd.

[bernardobri]

I'm surprised Raita ever got the job. He is talented, though. The fact that he's in the H-doujinshi business doesn't detract from the fact that he knows his craft. Those illustrations and releases help pay the bills, after all. And most men like breasts, especially when drawing them is your job. He can't hate the job without his output decreasing immensely.

Hold on, Raita came up with the whole high-concept of the game, or just drew the image for the proposal?

[Karsticles]

man, finding out the valkyria artist is a big old perv is kinda depressing. i always figured the terrible art for 2 was done by someone else and the pic in this thread really looked like fanart to me. i cracked open my art book finally as a result of this thread and the growlanser thread though and i'm reading things about how much he enjoys drawing mammary glands and how disappointed he was that a selvaria swimsuit scene was cut from the game. i never thought his art was kaneko/amano/kobayashi/terada level but geez dude, pull it together.

All artists are pervs. You don't think every single person that knows how to draw doesn't draw perverted things? Some are just more open about it, like this guy and George Kamitani.

[Dragoon En Regalia]

I think he just drew the image, but I'd need to check that page again.

—Okay: it was an image and a concept he came up with, according to the staff page.

[alfredofroylan]

I'm surprised Raita ever got the job. He is talented, though. The fact that he's in the H-doujinshi business doesn't detract from the fact that he knows his craft. Those illustrations and releases help pay the bills, after all. And most men like breasts, especially when drawing them is your job. He can't hate the job without his output decreasing immensely. And, yeah, Raita apparently came up with the original concept for Katawa Shoujo. How odd.

One of the earliest works of Go Nagai (Mazinger Z creator) was a H comic, also Monkey Punch (Lupin's creator) and the Azumanga Daioh creator started with doujins so it isn't that rare.

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Monkey Punch's stuff is complete perversion, funny enough. But I think his stuff is great, so he's redeemed in the end.

[Razgriz-Specter]

liked it alot.
characters and art were pretty good.

[bernardobri]

I think he just drew the image, but I'd need to check that page again. —Okay: it was an image and a concept he came up with, according to the staff page.

Huh, interesting. I assumed that he was a freelancer and that someone else in Sega came up with VC, and later they got him on the go.

[cosmicblizzard]

One of the earliest works of Go Nagai (Mazinger Z creator) was a H comic, also Monkey Punch (Lupin's creator) and the Azumanga Daioh creator started with doujins so it isn't that rare.

Like 90% of what Go Nagai draws is close to porn (with a lot of it actually being porn). That doesn't make him any less important to the growth of manga and anime considered he basically created the magical girl and mecha genres.

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Huh, interesting. I assumed that he was a freelancer and that someone else in Sega came up with VC, and later they got him on the go.

Oh. I thought you were talking about Katawa Shoujo. Shit: no, Raita definitely didn't come up with the concept for Valkyria Chronicles. He came up with a little idea called Gallian Panzers, which was unrelated to the idea that the Overworks and RED Entertainment employees developed in private.

[MvmntInGrn]

VC is very unique in both gameplay and presentation, worth trying even if you don't normally enjoy strategy games. Don't remember the demo being very good though.

It's always weird to me when someone asks if graphics hold up on a current gen game.

I barely understand it on older games, unless we are talking about how SD games hold up on HDTVs. Same goes for the trophy stuff. No trophies doesn't mean there isn't worthwhile goals and content to play through and trophies doesn't mean the objectives are any good. I hope those who enjoy trophies are still enjoying the game all that time.

[haikira]

Passing on a game, because of no trophies?



EDIT: Sorry. Was hasty with my post. Please continue.

[djtiesto]

If you don't use scouts and skip the story you might have a fun and tolerable experience! Scouts break the game to the point where there's no challenge at all (and the game's ranking system heavily favors using scouts) and the story is some of the most cringe worthy j-crap you'll ever encounter.

There was nothing wrong at all with the story, it's like nowadays some people see anime characters and automatically shrug a game's storytelling off. VC is an awesome game with innovative gameplay, great graphics, nice story and excellent music. There are a few niggling issues here and there (lopsided balance progression, load times, scouts being overpowered) but games like this don't come around very often.

[patapuf]

There was nothing wrong at all with the story, it's like nowadays some people see anime characters and automatically shrug a game's storytelling off. VC is an awesome game with innovative gameplay, great graphics, nice story and excellent music. There are a few niggling issues here and there (lopsided balance progression, load times, scouts being overpowered) but games like this don't come around very often.

there were quite a few cringe worthy scenes in the story, the idea behind it was good but there were a lot of nonsense moments, the atmosphere makes up for it though.

[Hindle]

Aye they still hold up, the presentation is awesome as well.

[heckmanimation]

good SRPG. great story and characters. some fun unique gameplay aspects.

can be very slow.

antiquated presentation and features.

all you really have to do is level up 1 class to beat the game, which takes away a lot in my eyes.

no trophies. im not a trophy person at all. but y know this is one game I woulda liked them in to add longevity.

[patapuf]

good SRPG. great story and characters. some fun unique gameplay aspects. can be very slow. antiquated presentation and features. all you really have to do is level up 1 class to beat the game, which takes away a lot in my eyes. no trophies. im not a trophy person at all. but y know this is one game I woulda liked them in to add longevity.

there are quite a few ingame trophies to get though some require more effort than others, the hard mode DLC is fun as well.

[Recall]

If you're actually serious, holy shit. You are precisely what's wrong with this industry today.

I'm confused how is someone's desire to only play games with trophies a flaw with the video game industry? If anything it is a flaw with the community, not the industry as a whole.

[Zeer0id]

Some of the best graphics this generation, no question. I don't think they will ever become dated, much like Wind Waker.

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Amazing game. One of the best RPGs this gen

[Recall]

Its a shame as a game you are rewarded for just rushing the objective, rather than being strategic. To get A ranks etc you need to be quick so dashing for the finish line makes you neglect the great gameplay if you want the best scores possible.

[SykoTech]

Graphics are solid and hold up, but it's the artstyle that sells it. Gorgeous.

Fantastic Strategy RPG overall. Characters, story, and music were all great as well. Ranking system is the only thing I didn't like, as it encourages rushing through fights.

No trophies, but Valkyria Chronicles is absolutely worth a purchase. Trophies sure would be nice though, but....Sega.

[7threst]

Are people really robbing themselves of the chance to play great games like Valkyria Chronicles just because it has no trophies? I feel like crying now.... :(

Play this game, please!

[neoemonk]

Need to check PSN to see if VC2 is available for my Vita.

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Trophies sure would be nice though, but....Sega.

They were so sure it was all about the intrinsic rewards these days, though!

[Mudkips]

It's a 2008 game, right? graphics still hold up? does it have trophy support? it's a modern day RPG? Fill me in GAF and convince me to give it a shot. I hear combat is very fun :)

It's a great game but based on your questions I'm going to go ahead and say it's probably not for you.

[jiji]

man, finding out the valkyria artist is a big old perv is kinda depressing. i always figured the terrible art for 2 was done by someone else and the pic in this thread really looked like fanart to me. i cracked open my art book finally as a result of this thread and the growlanser thread though and i'm reading things about how much he enjoys drawing mammary glands and how disappointed he was that a selvaria swimsuit scene was cut from the game. i never thought his art was kaneko/amano/kobayashi/terada level but geez dude, pull it together.

Why do you hate breasts?

[deim0s]

o wow no trophy support :( well thanks anyway

I do not understand this kind of people. Well, of you go.

[Degen]

what's the count on how many people who've fallen for that post

[FloppyDelux]

buy it + the art book NOW! please

[Hobbun]

o wow no trophy support :( well thanks anyway

Is this how bad it’s gotten? Maybe I’m old fashioned, but what happened to playing games for their enjoyment than to gaining prestige?

OP, if you don’t play VC, and enjoy SRPGs, you are missing out one of the best SRPGs…ever.

[rCIZZLE]

Trophies/achievements really fucked up gaming. I'm glad I've broken away from that mentality in recent months... so much time wasted on grindy trophies that add absolutely nothing to my gaming experience.

perfect match up. and yes get the game.

Rob Liefeld's shitty art is becoming a neogaf virus LOL.

[Astery]

I never understand how is no achievement/ trophy being the major reason of a game breaker for a game you never played. Jesus man.

Need to check PSN to see if VC2 is available for my Vita.

skip 2 and go for 3, that's for your own good.

buy it + the art book NOW! please

this. I love the art book.

[djtiesto]

there were quite a few cringe worthy scenes in the story, the idea behind it was good but there were a lot of nonsense moments, the atmosphere makes up for it though.

What did you think were the cringe worthy moments in the story? Did you not like the beach scene? I like a few lighthearted moments like that, especially in a serious game. I like that style of goofy, out-of-place humor, especially since tons of games take themselves super seriously nowadays.

[kuroshiki]

How could anyone say no to Selvaria :(

Long live Selvaria.

Okay, that has to be fan art. She was pretty ridiculous, but not THAT ridiculous.

That's official art.

[patapuf]

What did you think were the cringe worthy moments in the story? Did you not like the beach scene? I like a few lighthearted moments like that, especially in a serious game. I like that style of goofy, out-of-place humor, especially since tons of games take themselves super seriously nowadays.

There's just some tropes that shine through, the token mascot, the main character and some clumsy moments like the birth in the tank and the subsequent conversations after the first mission that are a bit too cliche/corny imo.

As you say it sometimes just seems a bit out of place given the grim things that are going on around them.

That said, the story is ok, i just don't think it's a strength of the game. (which i really like btw.)

[pantsmith]

Additional factor that might get you over the hump: did you play Final Fantasy XII? Did you like the music? Because if you did, you'll also love the music in this. Hitoshi Sakimoto is his usual amazing self.

Oh man, I had no idea it was the same person- I assumed he was locked at SquareEnix and that the VC composer just happened to be a big fan of his. That makes so much sense!

Alternatively, OP, ask yourself:

Do you gotta love nature? Do you follow up a brutal execution-style murder with a cheerful, disconnected "YES!"

If so, this is the game for you.

[Danne-Danger]

What did you think were the cringe worthy moments in the story? Did you not like the beach scene? I like a few lighthearted moments like that, especially in a serious game. I like that style of goofy, out-of-place humor, especially since tons of games take themselves super seriously nowadays.

The childbirth scene and every emotional note they tried to hit comes to mind. I don't remember much of it today but I do recall being awfully bored whenever they wanted to display "the horrors of war". It's like someone took every bad, sappy war movie you ever saw and lifted the most cliched lines they could find and added a pig with wings.

Keep in mind though that most war movies are cringe worthy, as is most anime. Putting a war-themed anime in a video game means you're doomed from the start.