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Yuripaw
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(07-26-2012, 08:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Busaiku

Yeah, with all the characters, that's what we're assuming, given BlazBlue.

I guess that's fine...from what I played of the blazblue games, they did at least have some in depth story stuff going on there. I just wish Japanese developers would consider expanding what they can do with story in fighting games.

I don't know if I'm in the minority here, but I loved what Netherealm did with the story mode in Mortal Kombat. That had to the best story mode I've ever played in a fighting game. Thing took me at least 10 hours to finish, and gave me a good idea of how each character plays.
Stark
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(07-26-2012, 08:07 AM)

Originally Posted by NinajHeartless

Early claims were around 30-40 hours and that is most definitely including playthroughs with every character.

Not surprised either considering how long BlazBlue took me at least.
TheSeks
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(07-26-2012, 08:11 AM)
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Avatar change, get. GET HYPE as the kids would say.

Says the person that'll probably drop this in a month when DOA hits and the community gets better than his casually plays fighting game ass and then goes back to Battlefield where he belongs.
LeadProtagonist
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(07-26-2012, 08:12 AM)
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You missed me! Add please.

LeadProtagonist - PS3 - LeadProtagonist - Yu/Yosuke
Yuripaw
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(07-26-2012, 08:15 AM)
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Missed me too:

GaF: Yuripaw - system: PS3 - PSN: Ockman - main: Chie
we.are.the.armada
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(07-26-2012, 08:17 AM)
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Ok, so this game supposedly is using the same netcode as BB with some tweaks - I never played that though, so was it any good online?

All this Chie in here! Where's that hnnnnnngg picture at? I should photoshop that thing a bit...
QisTopTier
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(07-26-2012, 08:18 AM)

Originally Posted by we.are.the.armada

Ok, so this game supposedly is using the same netcode as BB with some tweaks - I never played that though, so was it any good?

All this Chie in here! Where's that hnnnnnngg picture at? I should photoshop that thing a bit...

The only netcode better than BB's is Soul Calibur 5
Bob Coffee
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(07-26-2012, 08:18 AM)
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cant wait to put the smack down for the glory of S.E.E.S with mitsuru.:D only 2 more weeks.
TheSeks
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(07-26-2012, 08:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by we.are.the.armada

Ok, so this game supposedly is using the same netcode as BB with some tweaks - I never played that though, so was it any good online.

Anything above 2 bars is good. At least CS1/2-wise. Dunno about Extend/CS3. Maybe they tweaked it more. But anyway it's solid and better than other 2D fighters netcode, all you need to know.
we.are.the.armada
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(07-26-2012, 08:20 AM)
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Originally Posted by QisTopTier

The only netcode better than BB's is Soul Calibur 5

Originally Posted by TheSeks

Anything above 2 bars is good. At least CS1/2-wise. Dunno about Extend/CS3. Maybe they tweaked it more. But anyway it's solid and better than other 2D fighters netcode, all you need to know.

Thanks - although, I'm a bit unsure as to how GGPO rates in all of this. Is that as good as BB? Also, did BB have custom lobbies? Man, I'm totally clueless about this, I only play SFIVAE.
QisTopTier
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(07-26-2012, 08:22 AM)

Originally Posted by we.are.the.armada

Thanks - although, I'm a bit unsure as to how GGPO rates in all of this. Is that as good as BB? Also, did BB have custom lobbies? Man, I'm totally clueless about this, I only play SFIVAE.

GGPO is right under it, problem is GGPO can get annoying as fuck at times due to how it works
TheSeks
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(07-26-2012, 08:24 AM)
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Originally Posted by we.are.the.armada

Thanks - although, I'm a bit unsure as to how GGPO rates in all of this. Is that as good as BB? Also, did BB have custom lobbies? Man, I'm totally clueless about this, I only play SFIVAE.

GGPO is good but not great. It's a call-check system. BB/Arc's netcode is a sync before the match. There's no "roll-back." GGPO in Third Strike is prone to rolling back the state when lagging. Which is why Jeff Gerstman/others complained about seeing wins on their screen but actually losing rounds because the state/GGPO rolled back due to lag.

Blazblue doesn't do that. It sync's the players and if someone lags both sides lag.

I'm partial to DOA's method of slowing the game down/frame-rate dives as well if players are lagging. Gives boths sides an even advantage, IMO

BB does have custom lobbies in the fact you can set settings (winner stays, loser stays, host choice [IIRC] Unlimited on/off) but it wasn't totally custom in a sense. You can't block certain characters from being used (IIRC) just an unlimited on/off toggle.

Best thing BB has is the game finder. No match making unless you choose quick match. Which is nice.
we.are.the.armada
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(07-26-2012, 08:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by QisTopTier

GGPO is right under it, problem is GGPO can get annoying as fuck at times due to how it works


Originally Posted by TheSeks

GGPO is good but not great.
Blazblue doesn't do that. It sync's the players and if someone lags both sides lag. BB does have custom lobbies in the fact you can set settings (winner stays, loser stays, host choice [IIRC] Unlimited on/off) but it wasn't totally custom in a sense. You can't block certain characters from being used (IIRC) just an unlimited on/off toggle.

Best thing BB has is the game finder. No match making unless you choose quick match. Which is nice.

Nice, thanks for the info guys!
SolarPowered
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(07-26-2012, 08:31 AM)
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Originally Posted by we.are.the.armada

Thanks - although, I'm a bit unsure as to how GGPO rates in all of this. Is that as good as BB? Also, did BB have custom lobbies? Man, I'm totally clueless about this, I only play SFIVAE.

GGPO is the best only because of the rollbacks which allows you to play at nearly frame perfect pace despite fluctuating(and usually slow) internet speeds. That really helps folks training for higher level competition in my opinion. The other plus is the fact that you can set your own delay in order to minimize that lag you find in Mahvel, SFIV and KOF. The tech ASW uses works more than well enough for casual and mid level fighting. It's seriously good stuff compared to just about all other non GGPO fighters(here is looking at you, KOF and Mahvel).

Originally Posted by TheSeks

GGPO is good but not great. It's a call-check system. BB/Arc's netcode is a sync before the match. There's no "roll-back." GGPO in Third Strike is prone to rolling back the state when lagging. Which is why Jeff Gerstman/others complained about seeing wins on their screen but actually losing rounds because the state/GGPO rolled back due to lag.

Blame that on the specific implementation of GGPO on third strike. I've never ever experienced such powerful rollback and I've played hundreds(maybe thousands) of matches with people from my continent and abroad.
RoeBear
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(07-26-2012, 08:33 AM)
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Can't wait to get this PS3- Roe-Bear Akihiko/Teddy
scytheavatar
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(07-26-2012, 08:38 AM)
http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/j...tremely-laggy/

Word of warning for those planning to get the 360 version of this game.
Saprol
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(07-26-2012, 08:38 AM)
Can't wait for story mode and getting bodied because I'm terrible. Probably going to try half the cast anyway based on favourites and BGM.

chie why can't your theme be as cool as aegis'/yukiko's? :(
Steaks
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(07-26-2012, 08:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by scytheavatar

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/j...tremely-laggy/

Word of warning for those planning to get the 360 version of this game.

We should probably wait a little longer before assuming this is fact. Blazblue was actually unplayable on release IIRC but got patched to work fine quickly.
Snapshot King
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(07-26-2012, 08:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by scytheavatar

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/j...tremely-laggy/

Word of warning for those planning to get the 360 version of this game.

Wow those comments are a cesspool. I was planning on getting it for 360, I can't possibly believe they'd let it ship like that over here. I'm sure more impressions will come out in the following weeks, or a patch'll come out or something.
toastyToast
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(07-26-2012, 08:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by Naite

Getting the PS3 version and maining Akihiko. I find it awesome that he has a palette of both my Blazblue and Guilty Gear mains.


I'm probably gonna end up subbing half the cast as I like playing with multiple characters.

oh my
Ragingnight
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(07-26-2012, 10:11 AM)
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omgggg so beautiful....nice OT

jacking if nobody minds
Rarutos
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(07-26-2012, 10:15 AM)
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So hyped, I legitimately want to get good at this one for some reason. Even bought a stick to learn on it. Can't wait! Hoping to play either Yukiko, Mitsuru, or Elizabeth. :)
Bladenic
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(07-26-2012, 10:16 AM)
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Claimed Narukami-kun.

Just wondering, was there a tier list for the game based on the arcade version? Just curious.

I don't know who I plan on maining. Will probably try everyone and see who I like. Right now I'm leaning to Kanji since he's my favorite P4 character. But I'll see.
Steaks
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(07-26-2012, 10:23 AM)
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Originally Posted by Chris25

Claimed Narukami-kun.

Just wondering, was there a tier list for the game based on the arcade version? Just curious.

I don't know who I plan on maining. Will probably try everyone and see who I like. Right now I'm leaning to Kanji since he's my favorite P4 character. But I'll see.

Everyone's viable, but Kanji's the worst character.
Bladenic
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(07-26-2012, 10:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by Steaks

Everyone's viable, but Kanji's the worst character.

Oh wow haha bummer.
SolarPowered
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(07-26-2012, 10:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Steaks

Everyone's viable, but Kanji's the worst character.

He is a grappler in an ASW game. I guess we should be happy that he even has an air dash.
MagicWithEarvin
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(07-26-2012, 10:32 AM)
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Nice OT. Subscribed!

PS3 version pre-ordered from Newegg.
sephi22
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(07-26-2012, 10:45 AM)
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'Sephi22' on psn without the quotes.
Will be maining Kanji for that Real Soviet Damage.

Im in ME though, so i have to wait indefinitely for that EU copy
T.O.P
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(07-26-2012, 10:54 AM)

Originally Posted by scytheavatar

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/j...tremely-laggy/

Word of warning for those planning to get the 360 version of this game.

I'm fucked, yay :x

All my arcade sticks are for the 360 and my online is the shit on ps3 (reason why i switched my designed beat'em up platform to the 360)
Order
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(07-26-2012, 10:55 AM)
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I'm Jaybird-5038 on PSN. I'll probably main Yosuke or Naoto
Teknoman
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(07-26-2012, 10:59 AM)
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TeknomanEX PSN, gotta get in on this.

Dont really have a main or planned main since I liked every character from both games. Will be jumping back on dual shock since I only have a 360 arcade stick.
Parakeetman
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(07-26-2012, 11:18 AM)
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Just wanted to say FANTASTIC OP! And thanks for getting it out early! :)

Parakeetman762 on PSN - Not quite sure who Ill main. Labrys is interesting though, same with Akihito
Tizoc
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(07-26-2012, 11:20 AM)
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*Patiently waits for Zen United to get their lazy $hit together and announce a release date*

Could someone make a Samborero Kanji avatar plz?

Also to all my Kanji bros; you ARE buying a steel chair when you get this game right?
Zissou
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(07-26-2012, 11:23 AM)
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Fuck. Yeah.
Zeouterlimits
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(07-26-2012, 11:29 AM)
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Very nice OT cj but you cannot silence us! :p

Friends and I loved what we played in Tokyo, I can't wait for Zen United to get their shit together.
OneMoreQuestion
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(07-26-2012, 11:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by we.are.the.armada

Oh hey, if you guys have Persona-related bezels on your fightsticks, please post them, I want to see them :)

Well, since you asked...

Bladenic
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(07-26-2012, 11:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by earvcunanan

Nice OT. Subscribed!

PS3 version pre-ordered from Newegg.

Does Newegg happen to have that $12 coupon they often have for new releases for this game?
Parakeetman
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(07-26-2012, 11:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by NinajHeartless

Early claims were around 30-40 hours and that is most definitely including playthroughs with every character.

I got the game went through 4 stories so far and I wouldnt say its 30-40 hours long. Plus to get to the other scenes in the dialog its just a matter of loading up a "bookmark / save" from one of the 6 slots and see what happens.

Id give it about 20 perhaps, but 30-40 would be pushing it.

If anyone has any questions feel free to ask away.
Shito
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(07-26-2012, 11:56 AM)
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Every character's challenges: http://shoryuken.com/2012/07/25/pers...and-elizabeth/

I really like the idea of the last challenge being some kind of a puzzle that you have to figure out, and I find it quite nice the guy uploading these videos didn't show how to "resolve" them.
MarkMan
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(07-26-2012, 11:59 AM)
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I can't wait!

I'll be supporting this game. If any tournament organizers need love. Holla at me.

I'm ready to dust this off... Haven't had one used since Comic-Con ;)

ponpo
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(07-26-2012, 12:41 PM)
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Not buying this yet, but did just order a PS3 Exaprize so soon enough I guess.

Parakeetman
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(07-26-2012, 12:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by ponpo

My new waifu lol

With all jokes aside I really hope that she becomes a new character in the next Persona game. Since seems like there is an interesting backstory with her.

DONT READ PLOT SPOILERS FOR P4:MA
Though that would mean the game would have to take place during the P3 storyline.
Cowie
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(07-26-2012, 12:47 PM)
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Really hyped about this game. I'm terrible at new gen fighters so we'll see if my frustration gets the better of me.. but I think my love for Persona will prevail.



Cowie - PSN - CowieX - Yukiko?
Parakeetman
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(07-26-2012, 12:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Cowie

Really hyped about this game. I'm terrible at new gen fighters so we'll see if my frustration gets the better of me.. but I think my love for Persona will prevail.
Cowie - 360 - CowieX - Yukiko?

If anything just for the story mode alone seeing how you are a Persona fan am sure you will not regret the purchase, so rest assured!

The fighting mechanics itself are not that hard, but mastering them is another issue... Im from the more old school street fighter / KOF mostly (98) era so all of these new fangled crazy counters, bust action etc am not used to at all.
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(07-26-2012, 12:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by MarkMan

I can't wait!

I'll be supporting this game. If any tournament organizers need love. Holla at me.

I'm ready to dust this off... Haven't had one used since Comic-Con ;)

MarkMan with that Persona 4 stick taunting... :(
ponpo
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(07-26-2012, 12:56 PM)
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Currently streaming; CC Asia (twitch) and Godsgarden (nico)
Parakeetman
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(07-26-2012, 12:58 PM)
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I have one of these on the way, but am considering not opening it and selling it to anyone interested. Reason being is I had found this shortly after and put in an order for it instead. Dont really need 2 joysticks at the house. Considering its bad enough got the "TANK" 360 Real Arcade Pro Ex sitting around. Both should arrive tomorrow. If no takers on the purchase can always just return it unopened to amazon.


PS3 version.


This is the other order which I will be using instead as the main stick. The Hori Real Arcade Pro V3 (PS3)
kewlmyc
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(07-26-2012, 01:01 PM)
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned that the story part of the OT is wrong. It takes place two months after P4, not two years.

Impressive nonetheless.
Parakeetman
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(07-26-2012, 01:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Steaks

Everyone's viable, but Kanji's the worst character.

I wouldnt say worst, but hes far from the normal grapple type of character which I think is what turns everyone off.

Originally Posted by kewlmyc

I'm surprised no one has mentioned that the story part of the OT is wrong. It takes place two months after P4, not two years.

Yeah thats correct it is 2 months after the original story took place, with the main character returning to the town for the Golden Week Holiday.
Steaks
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(07-26-2012, 01:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Parakeetman

I wouldnt say worst, but hes far from the normal grapple type of character which I think is what turns everyone off.

He's objectively considered the worst playable character. I don't know how you could misunderstand that :)

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