[jimi_dini]

Real men own dogs?
Making a picture of your cat makes you forget how to talk to girls/women?
Cats sew up their owner's mouth, so they can't talk to girls/women anymore?
There are all sorts of different threads on NeoGAF?

I don't get it.

[low-G]

Funny, scrolling down I couldn't stop looking at this beautiful cat.




I own a cat, but I get a lot of pussy. :D

[MVP]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on all the dating guru crap that I've seen nowadays, but straight from the women I know, be better looking. Make women want to talk to YOU. If women aren't constantly starting conversations with you, then you're just not visually interesting, and yeah maybe you'll get lucky a few times in life and wordsmith your way into a date or something, but that's fleeting.

Become a better overall human being. If you're out of shape, get in shape. If you walk around looking raggedy, clean up. Make women wonder what you're like so that you won't have to come up with lines because otherwise they'll keep a conversation going to not make you feel bad, and maybe they will give you their number and secretly hope that you get the picture after the first two times she ignores your call, but really, most of the time women will let you know somehow if they're interested.

Again, this is straight from women I know and have been successful with. Looks matter, plain and simple. I don't care about what Rico Suave and Casanova said in some book or TV show. As soon as you say something to a woman and she sees you, if you're not attractive to her, she mentally checked out before you finished your first sentence.

[maquiladora]

Real men own dogs? Making a picture of your cat makes you forget how to talk to girls/women? Cats sew up their owner's mouth, so they can't talk to girls/women anymore? There are all sorts of different threads on NeoGAF? I don't get it.

Sup

[Riggs]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on all the dating guru crap that I've seen nowadays, but straight from the women I know, be better looking. Make women want to talk to YOU. If women aren't constantly starting conversations with you, then you're just not visually interesting, and yeah maybe you'll get lucky a few times in life and wordsmith your way into a date or something, but that's fleeting. Become a better overall human being. If you're out of shape, get in shape. If you walk around looking raggedy, clean up. Make women wonder what you're like so that you won't have to come up with lines because otherwise they'll keep a conversation going to not make you feel bad, and maybe they will give you their number and secretly hope that you get the picture after the first two times she ignores your call, but really, most of the time women will let you know somehow if they're interested. Again, this is straight from women I know and have been successful with. Looks matter, plain and simple. I don't care about what Rico Suave and Casanova said in some book or TV show. As soon as you say something to a woman and she sees you, if you're not attractive to her, she mentally checked out before you finished your first sentence.

name and avatar hah

Good advice in here. Beat what I was going to say. Which was to ingest large amounts of alcohol.

[Az987]

What if were in pretty decent shape? Get plastic surgery?

That's a funny statement because there is only so much a guy can do to become better looking. Hes born with his face.

"Hey how do I get chicks?"

"you're ugly, be better looking."

lol what?

[maquiladora]

If women aren't constantly starting conversations with you, then you're just not visually interesting

I said wow.

[Riggs]

What if were in pretty decent shape? Get plastic surgery? That's a funny statement because there is only so much a guy can do to become better looking. Hes born with his face. "Hey how do I get chicks?" "you're ugly, be better looking." lol what?

Yo stop being a pussy and get better looking son.

Jk thank god i look like coolio and you 2pac, we got lucky.

[Minamu]

Chinner: Geez, get it right, it's "kino" :)

[MVP]

What if were in pretty decent shape? Get plastic surgery? That's a funny statement because there is only so much a guy can do to become better looking. Hes born with his face. "Hey how do I get chicks?" "you're ugly, be better looking." lol what?

Well then just live with the fact that you won't be able to land every girl you want with some magic lines. You only need ONE real girl in life (at a time at least lol). You don't need them all. Prep yourself up, walk into every place like you own the joint, women will be intrigued, and eventually you'll find that special one. Become picky, and women will sense that you're a man of taste, not running around trying to find anyone to sleep with.

[low-G]

Well then just live with the fact that you won't be able to land every girl you want with some magic lines. You only need ONE real girl in life (at a time at least lol). You don't need them all. Prep yourself up, walk into every place like you own the joint, women will be intrigued, and eventually you'll find that special one. Become picky, and women will sense that you're a man of taste, not running around trying to find anyone to sleep with.

No one can land every girl they want. No matter what you look like there will be a large number of people that don't want you for any number of physical reasons. This nor dating age is about landing every girl.

As far as attractiveness you just need to be decent to land any kind of girl. Don't dress like shit, get good hygiene, and try to get into some kind of shape. Everything else is butter.

[Izick]

What if were in pretty decent shape? Get plastic surgery? That's a funny statement because there is only so much a guy can do to become better looking. Hes born with his face. "Hey how do I get chicks?" "you're ugly, be better looking." lol what?

I always hate that too. That pisses me off when people say that. Unfortunately, if you're face is shit then you can't do much about it, besides something drastic like surgery.

[Rom1944]

use this as an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8U8gjFx9Vk.

But seriously just talk to them and eventually you will be able to talk to girls without thinking on how to approach them.

[MVP]

I always hate that too. That pisses me off when people say that. Unfortunately, if you're face is shit then you can't do much about it, besides something drastic like surgery.

If your face is shit then date women whose faces are shit or who don't care. Just don't try to land models because some dude in a book keeps telling everyone it's possible right before taking their money to teach them how. Yes, men do sometimes date slightly out of their league due to charm, but if they are dating WAAAAY out of their league, it's because of money, drugs, or the woman is an escort/prostitute. 99% of the time this is true.

[Heavy]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on all the dating guru crap that I've seen nowadays, but straight from the women I know, be better looking. Make women want to talk to YOU. If women aren't constantly starting conversations with you, then you're just not visually interesting, and yeah maybe you'll get lucky a few times in life and wordsmith your way into a date or something, but that's fleeting. Become a better overall human being. If you're out of shape, get in shape. If you walk around looking raggedy, clean up. Make women wonder what you're like so that you won't have to come up with lines because otherwise they'll keep a conversation going to not make you feel bad, and maybe they will give you their number and secretly hope that you get the picture after the first two times she ignores your call, but really, most of the time women will let you know somehow if they're interested. Again, this is straight from women I know and have been successful with. Looks matter, plain and simple. I don't care about what Rico Suave and Casanova said in some book or TV show. As soon as you say something to a woman and she sees you, if you're not attractive to her, she mentally checked out before you finished your first sentence.

This is the best post I've read in these threads. Humbling but straight to the point and coming from a good looking fellow (if that's you in the av) so there's some cred to it.

If your face is shit then date women whose faces are shit or who don't care. Just don't try to land models because some dude in a book keeps telling everyone it's possible right before taking their money to teach them how. Yes, men do sometimes date slightly out of their league due to charm, but if they are dating WAAAAY out of their league, it's because of money, drugs, or the woman is an escort/prostitute. 99% of the time this is true.

You're killing me with these truth bombs... :(

[Hot Coldman]

1. Rip a massive fuck-off fart
2. Go over to some girls
3. When they complain about the smell, say "oh yeah it was that dude over there", pointing to some poor sod
4. Talk about how much non-farting you are and also emphasise the biggerness of your genitals in comparison to the smelly guy (who smells, emphasise the smell too, oh and don't forget to say the fart was loud and sounded kinda wet)
5. Sex

[Izick]

If your face is shit then date women whose faces are shit or who don't care. Just don't try to land models because some dude in a book keeps telling everyone it's possible right before taking their money to teach them how. Yes, men do sometimes date slightly out of their league due to charm, but if they are dating WAAAAY out of their league, it's because of money, drugs, or the woman is an escort/prostitute. 99% of the time this is true.

This is true, but I don't want to date women who have ugly faces. I don't want to have to force myself to find them attractive.

[commedieu]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on all the dating guru crap that I've seen nowadays, but straight from the women I know, be better looking. Make women want to talk to YOU. If women aren't constantly starting conversations with you, then you're just not visually interesting, and yeah maybe you'll get lucky a few times in life and wordsmith your way into a date or something, but that's fleeting. Become a better overall human being. If you're out of shape, get in shape. If you walk around looking raggedy, clean up. Make women wonder what you're like so that you won't have to come up with lines because otherwise they'll keep a conversation going to not make you feel bad, and maybe they will give you their number and secretly hope that you get the picture after the first two times she ignores your call, but really, most of the time women will let you know somehow if they're interested. Again, this is straight from women I know and have been successful with. Looks matter, plain and simple. I don't care about what Rico Suave and Casanova said in some book or TV show. As soon as you say something to a woman and she sees you, if you're not attractive to her, she mentally checked out before you finished your first sentence.

Parts of this are really true, and should just be a general thing to remember while you're dating & trying to pursue women.

[ivedoneyourmom]

Well, you've come to the right place.

As always, second post wins.

[Booya]

Ask questions, it's as simple as that. Make her laugh and ask about her, which in these times is a rare quality. If you're unlucky she will keep telling about herself without asking back, which is a big turn off for me.
Also eye contact and smiles. There is nothing more to it.

[Heavy]

This is true, but I don't want to date women who have ugly faces. I don't want to have to force myself to find them attractive.

Then you have to get ripped. A ripped body can help compensate for being fug. For me i think my face is OK looking it's just fat so I think if i lose some weight and gain muscles and get a 6-pack I could get a really hot chick.

[low-G]

If your face is shit then date women whose faces are shit or who don't care. Just don't try to land models because some dude in a book keeps telling everyone it's possible right before taking their money to teach them how. Yes, men do sometimes date slightly out of their league due to charm, but if they are dating WAAAAY out of their league, it's because of money, drugs, or the woman is an escort/prostitute. 99% of the time this is true.

There is no such thing as leagues. And attraction doesn't work that way. People don't have an 'attractiveness' stat. What's appealing to one person won't necessarily be appealing to another.

Maybe there's something to be said for freaks of nature, but most people fit within a range of 'everyman'.

Also I've seen way too many ugly guys (IMO) with babes based on actual attraction to believe any of that shit.

[Izick]

Then you have to get ripped. A ripped body can help compensate for being fug. For me i think my face is OK looking it's just fat so I think if i lose some weight and gain muscles and get a 6-pack I could get a really hot chick.

I have a good body. I don't have a six pack but I'm fairly muscular, too the point where I've received compliments here and there. Hasn't really seemed to help me with women though.

[deejay8595]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on all the dating guru crap that I've seen nowadays, but straight from the women I know, be better looking. Make women want to talk to YOU. If women aren't constantly starting conversations with you, then you're just not visually interesting, and yeah maybe you'll get lucky a few times in life and wordsmith your way into a date or something, but that's fleeting. Become a better overall human being. If you're out of shape, get in shape. If you walk around looking raggedy, clean up. Make women wonder what you're like so that you won't have to come up with lines because otherwise they'll keep a conversation going to not make you feel bad, and maybe they will give you their number and secretly hope that you get the picture after the first two times she ignores your call, but really, most of the time women will let you know somehow if they're interested. Again, this is straight from women I know and have been successful with. Looks matter, plain and simple. I don't care about what Rico Suave and Casanova said in some book or TV show. As soon as you say something to a woman and she sees you, if you're not attractive to her, she mentally checked out before you finished your first sentence.

I agree with the majority of your post but the bolded is false! I don't know how many times a female would say to me "As soon as I saw you walk into (Club,bar,building,etc...) I wanted you.." I then ask them "Well, If you wanted me why didn't you say anything to get my attention?"... In which they reply "Well, I was nervous/scared you would reject me plus I'm the girl and the male should approach first". That comes from very attractive females aswell. Now it's funny because the girls you find unattractive are EXTRA bold and will approach you with ease.

What I'm saying is do not depend on the woman to constantly strike up a conversation with you. 8 times out of 10 they won't say anything because they are afraid of rejection.

[MVP]

This is the best post I've read in these threads. Humbling but straight to the point and coming from a good looking fellow (if that's you in the av) so there's some cred to it. You're killing me with these truth bombs... :(

Thanks, sorry :/

This is true, but I don't want to date women who have ugly faces. I don't want to have to force myself to find them attractive.

...but you want them to force themselves to find you attractive? I don't mean that to be offensive, but women are humans too, they have their tastes and preferences, and are slightly superficial just like all of us who prefer a woman with a pretty face.

None of this would apply if you can force a woman to get to know you, because people automatically become more physically attractive to someone as time goes by if their interest grows, the problem is that most of the time it's not possible because the physical is the first things women notice.

[The Anti-Monitor]

GAF how am I supposed to use this thing

[Heavy]

I have a good body. I don't have a six pack but I'm fairly muscular, too the point where I've received compliments here and there. Hasn't really seemed to help me with women though.

Maybe update your style of dress? Some kind of makeover

[Az987]

Then you have to get ripped. A ripped body can help compensate for being fug. For me i think my face is OK looking it's just fat so I think if i lose some weight and gain muscles and get a 6-pack I could get a really hot chick.

You can only walk around without a shirt so many places lol. Better move to the coast and live at the beach.

A skinny ripped guy doesn't look buff with a shirt on, trust me. If you get really huge than yeah somewhat.

[ferr]

I like you because you have big titties!

[dragonflys545]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3lUzGDAZNM

[commedieu]

I agree with the majority of your post but the bolded is false! I don't know how many times a female would say to me "As soon as I saw you walk into (Club,bar,building,etc...) I wanted you.." I then ask them "Well, If you wanted me why didn't you say anything to get my attention?"... In which they reply "Well, I was nervous/scared you would reject me plus I'm the girl and the male should approach first". That comes from very attractive females aswell. Now it's funny because the girls you find unattractive are EXTRA bold and will approach you with ease. What I'm saying is do not depend on the woman to constantly strike up a conversation with you. 8 times out of 10 they won't say anything because they are afraid of rejection.

Yep, thats why i was saying parts of MVP's post were true. But it all falls back onto women just being people. I default to striking up conversations after I get a few looks, because I have that nugget in the back of my mind. My last longterm girlfriend eye-fucked me, but didn't initiate a damn thing outside of that. I feel like there is still a game you have to play as the pursuer. Sure, you might get a woman that breaks this pattern. But, You should always go with your gut. At least to just squash any future what if's and regret.

[Cubsfan23]

This may be an unpopular opinion based on all the dating guru crap that I've seen nowadays, but straight from the women I know, be better looking. Make women want to talk to YOU. If women aren't constantly starting conversations with you, then you're just not visually interesting, and yeah maybe you'll get lucky a few times in life and wordsmith your way into a date or something, but that's fleeting. Become a better overall human being. If you're out of shape, get in shape. If you walk around looking raggedy, clean up. Make women wonder what you're like so that you won't have to come up with lines because otherwise they'll keep a conversation going to not make you feel bad, and maybe they will give you their number and secretly hope that you get the picture after the first two times she ignores your call, but really, most of the time women will let you know somehow if they're interested. Again, this is straight from women I know and have been successful with. Looks matter, plain and simple. I don't care about what Rico Suave and Casanova said in some book or TV show. As soon as you say something to a woman and she sees you, if you're not attractive to her, she mentally checked out before you finished your first sentence.

I know good looking guys that havent' gotten laid in years

I know 50 year olds that lay 25 year olds regularly (without spending money on them)

I know an average looking guy that wears jeans and t shirts everywhere he goes. He goes home with a girl every single time. And they pursue him.

It's all your vibe, and getting rid of limiting beliefs


asking women what works on them, is not the same as what they react to, especially on a subconscious level

[Hot Coldman]

GAF how am I supposed to use this thing

Make a thread about it.

[Izick]

...but you want them to force themselves to find you attractive? I don't mean that to be offensive, but women are humans too, they have their tastes and preferences, and are slightly superficial just like all of us who prefer a woman with a pretty face. None of this would apply if you can force a woman to get to know you, because people automatically become more physically attractive to someone as time goes by if their interest grows, the problem is that most of the time it's not possible because the physical is the first things women notice.

I'm not saying that, I'm just saying you can't just say "become better looking" because for some people that's just not a possibility. It's not possible to get past having an unattractive face.

Maybe update your style of dress? Some kind of makeover

I've tried all the gimmicks, they just don't seem to work.

[InsaneZero]

GAF how am I supposed to use this thing

Throw it at people.

[maquiladora]

GAF how am I supposed to use this thing

Sorry, can't answer that right now, busy buying some designer shirts and lifting weights here, when I'm done I'll answer you, and after a few minutes you'll see I have the exact same personality I had before I did any of that.

[Eggman]

Izick, you're probably not even that "ugly."

[Soneet]

If your face is shit then date women whose faces are shit or who don't care. Just don't try to land models because some dude in a book keeps telling everyone it's possible right before taking their money to teach them how. Yes, men do sometimes date slightly out of their league due to charm, but if they are dating WAAAAY out of their league, it's because of money, drugs, or the woman is an escort/prostitute. 99% of the time this is true.

You're forgetting foreignness. This can surprisingly surpass any "face grades".

My opinion is that pretty much everyone can look good / charming as long as they take care of themselves. You don't have to look like a superstar. Just look... normal. So yeah, that does mean you have to work out if you're out of shape. Fix your haircut if you need to. Buy decent clothes if yours are making you feel uncomfortable.

My personal problem for a long time is that I thought every conversation with a girl was something special. Don't do that. It doesn't matter if someone is female or male, good looking or not. Always talk and be the same. If you keep switching your 'mode', you can't also expect to be yourself. A bit cliché, but be yourself. Sounds hard, until you actually do it and drop all your expectations. That's my advice for being comfortable with everyone.

I was never a guy that always wanted to try to get into someone's pants. If you're that type of person, my advice won't help you, nor do I want to help such kind of people.

[Az987]

Even if you are a good looking guy you still wont get that far without good self esteem or confidence.

Everyone knows most women want to be approached not the other way around.

Alcohol could help with that though. Or drugs.

[Minamu]

ITT: Women are apparently even more shallow when it comes to looks than men are, going against all collected knowledge on the subject throughout the ages.

Your face is only as ugly as YOU make it out to be. and it's only as important as YOU make it out to be. And that goes for everything in life.

Izick, you're probably not even that "ugly."

Not at all according to his pictures he's posted in Dating-Age.

[FairyD]

GAF how am I supposed to use this thing

It's a device for cutting people's hearts out.

[maquiladora]

I've tried all the gimmicks, they just don't seem to work.

Just be yourself and if you get out and meet enough people though college or a job or a society/club/sport/hobby then eventually you'll come across someone that you click with.

[MVP]

I agree with the majority of your post but the bolded is false! I don't know how many times a female would say to me "As soon as I saw you walk into (Club,bar,building,etc...) I wanted you.." I then ask them "Well, If you wanted me why didn't you say anything to get my attention?"... In which they reply "Well, I was nervous/scared you would reject me plus I'm the girl and the male should approach first". That comes from very attractive females aswell. Now it's funny because the girls you find unattractive are EXTRA bold and will approach you with ease. What I'm saying is do not depend on the woman to constantly strike up a conversation with you. 8 times out of 10 they won't say anything because they are afraid of rejection.

If we're talking in a place like clubs or bars, then that's probably the case because I've heard that before. I usually only go to those places with a partner, not to find one. I doubt most women would be brazen enough to come up to you and say they want you unless they're sleazy, but what I meant is that women find ways to get your attention.

The one I always get is "OMG how tall are you? You make me feel small teeheeheehee"...I'm like 6'4 or 6'5 which is not alien tall, but women have told me if they don't find you atractive they wouldn't even start that conversation for fear of it getting awkward and leading the guy on.

[deejay8595]

Yep, thats why i was saying parts of MVP's post were true. But it all falls back onto women just being people. I default to striking up conversations after I get a few looks, because I have that nugget in the back of my mind. My last longterm girlfriend eye-fucked me, but didn't initiate a damn thing outside of that. I feel like there is still a game you have to play as the pursuer. Sure, you might get a woman that breaks this pattern. But, You should always go with your gut. At least to just squash any future what if's and regret.

True. I always say "What's the worse that can happen?". Some men think as soon as they open their mouth the woman will drop an Anvil on their head ala Looney Tunes lol. Like others have said, females are human just like us. Treat them as they are and not an alien that just landed from outer space.

[Az987]

Oh and you need more than abs too. You need the V that goes from your abs down to your dick. Chicks dig the V lol

Its like an arrow advising where to go.

a V will get you V.

[pigeon]

ITT: Women are apparently even more shallow when it comes to looks than men are, going against all collected knowledge on the subject throughout the ages. Your face is only as ugly as YOU make it out to be. and it's only as important as YOU make it out to be. And that goes for everything in life.

On the one hand, this is true.

On the other hand, I know plenty of people who need to learn that they're not entitled to date supermodels. If you want women to find you unconventionally attractive, you had probably learn to find them unconventionally attractive.

[Messypandas]

Honestly part of it is looking the part. But only part of it. If it looks like your mother still dresses you and you get your haircut every 6 months then yeah, you may have to a little more pro-active in your approaches.

[deejay8595]

If we're talking in a place like clubs or bars, then that's probably the case because I've heard that before. I usually only go to those places with a partner, not to find one. I doubt most women would be brazen enough to come up to you and say they want you unless they're sleazy, but what I meant is that women find ways to get your attention. The one I always get is "OMG how tall are you? You make me feel small teeheeheehee"...I'm like 6'4 or 6'5 which is not alien tall, but women have told me if they don't find you atractive they wouldn't even start that conversation for fear of it getting awkward and leading the guy on.

You can't say they're sleazy if they approach you only to say women find ways to get your attention. Would you rather them not say anything at all? If a attractive women approaches me first that's an automatic turn on because that means she is confident in herself.

Your 2nd statement is true. Just like a male wouldn't randomly tell an unattractive female " I love the color of your shirt!". Doesn't make any sense lol.

[Metalmarc]

befriend a girl who is into the same thing as you
whether its videogames, music, films or whatever, just try to be good buddies then see how it goes from there, in the meantime being buddies with a girl should give you confidence to talk to other girls, just try to be yourself

i promise you as someone who is overweight and not very good looking (in my opinion) i still have a girlfriend, it is possible. there is someone out there for everyone you gotta keep looking and not give up


any girls in this thread? can you give the OP some tips? do you girls have any mates who are in a similar situation to the OP?

[Metalmarc]

some girls like guys who can make them laugh too, that may help