[squicken]

maybe you haven't followed harbs as much as your avatar indicates. he doesn't like the media. do you honestly think they get in the filmroom behind closed doors and he says "GEE GUYS YOU ALL FUCKING LOOKED GOOD! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!" just because he doesn't throw his players under the bus for the media doesn't mean he actually means everything he says in the media. he doesn't give a shit about talking to the media or answering questions. the naive dumbfucks like mike florio say "zomg jim harbaugh said niners have 5 #1 wr's! LOL! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!" it reminds me of the simpsons episode where lisa goes vegan and they say "are you going to marry a carrot!?" and she says yes i'm going to marry a carrot. and they say OH MY GOD SHE ADMITS IT! that's how people are with harbaugh. Q: Jim, do you have any #1 WR's on this roster? A: Yes, we have 5 #1 WR's OMGWTFBBQ THIS GUY CRAZY!

Oh you. All coaches have coachspeak and hyperbole. He just takes it up a notch. There's saying he has lots of #1 receivers and then there's saying that he would trust the life of his family to Crabbles catching a ball.

I really respect Harbs the tactician and motivator, though I am curious to see how long his schtick will work. Getting millionaires to wear mechanics' shirts isn't what I would call sustainable

It seems like them hazing Prince possibly after practice. Of course he didn't enjoy it.:) Steve Weatherford posted the original video on youtube in a joking manner, etc. I love the faux outrage though. If Prince had been truly pissy about it or it was some confrontation, do you think that he would have just happily sat on JPP's shoulder being carried down a hallway without any fight or trying to get out of it? :jnc )

Get out of here with that. Prince clearly didn't appreciate it. Them yelling for him to defend himself doesn't seem to indicate he thought it was a joke. Some guys just go too far with tomfoolery. He threw him head first into a shallow tub. It's such an asshole move I'm kind of surprised you'd defend it

[Futurevoid]

Jacobs posted this on Twitter:

Brandon Jacobs @gatorboy45 Big ups to Kareem Jackson from the Texans he is a classy guy, he came to the the X-ray room to wish me a speedy recovery.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Victor Cruz commented on the shot he took from Landry:

"Right in the chest,'' Cruz said. "Hit me right in the chest. It was a legal hit, nothing illegal. It was very legal, he hit me right in the chest and it was a good shot.'' #nyg

Get out of here with that. Prince clearly didn't appreciate it. Them yelling for him to defend himself doesn't seem to indicate he thought it was a joke. Some guys just go too far with tomfoolery. He threw him head first into a shallow tub. It's such an asshole move I'm kind of surprised you'd defend it

Were you there? Do you know the context or the circumstances? Have you ever been in dorm room or around a bunch of friends acting a fool? Of course some people take it too far but seriously with the outrage? I'm surprised it matters one way or the other to anyone or that profootballtalk is making it into tonights big story (5 twitter updates about it? Really?). It's a bunch of jocks/men acting like assholes towards one another (so yeah, guys hanging out). When he rips his ACL or something, call me. Until then, gimme a break.

For the record, I'm not defending anything. I just couldn't care less to show outrage about shit that probably happens in every NFL locker room around the league (or college campus for that matter except far far worse).

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Jacobs posted this on Twitter: ------------------------------------------------------------------ Victor Cruz commented on the shot he took from Landry: Were you there? Do you know the context or the circumstances? Have you ever been in dorm room or around a bunch of friends acting a fool? Of course some people take it too far but seriously with the outrage? I'm surprised it matters one way or the other to anyone or that profootballtalk is making it into tonights big story (5 twitter updates about it? Really?). It's a bunch of jocks/men acting like assholes towards one another (so yeah, guys hanging out). When he rips his ACL or something, call me. Until then, gimme a break. For the record, I'm not defending anything. I just couldn't care less to show outrage about shit that probably happens in every NFL locker room around the league (or college campus for that matter except far far worse).

it's whatever because i don't feel too much sympathy for any guys that get paid millions of dollars to play football but clearly prince didn't like and it's just a douchebag thing to do. i would say the samething of anyone else who does something like that as well.

hazing by making rookies pay for the teams dinner or shaving a dick in their head is one thing, but physically picking someone up as if they were a child and throwing them into a pool against their will, thereby emasculating him in front of his other teammates, is just a dick thing to do anyway you want to dice it

[squicken]

For the record, I'm not defending anything. I just couldn't care less to show outrage about shit that probably happens in every NFL locker room around the league (or college campus for that matter except far far worse).

My initial post asked why it happened? He threw him head first into a shallow pool of water. It's an asshole move. Don't really need to have been there to make a call on that. Don't really equate that with "outrage". Heck Florio's most directed post on it was wondering why Weatherford was dumb enough to put it online.

edit: I do get it though. Jets steal all the talk in NY. Then on the day the Giants embarrass them the big story is an unflattering one. I can't say I really watched the Giants game with my full attention. And I chalked up their defensive exploits as much to the Jets awfulness as any excellence on NYG's part. Probably not fair, but the Jets are a circus and it's fun to watch the tent collapse

[Futurevoid]

My initial post asked why it happened?

I don't know anymore than you do. Garafolo is supposed to post something on it tomorrow (apparently he spoke to Prince at the game) so I suppose we'll find out then.

He threw him head first into a shallow pool of water. It's an asshole move.

Of course it is. It's a complete dick move. Never argued otherwise. It's hazing! It's a bunch young guys acting their age is my point.;) As noted, maybe I'm not quite as angered or whatever you want to describe it as because I've seen worst in person in College frat house initiations.

Heck Florio's most directed post on it was wondering why Weatherford was dumb enough to put it online.

Agreed on that one. That's what leads me to ask - if it was some big terrible thing that Prince will need therapy over for the next ten years to get over, I'm not so sure Weatherford would have posted it to begin. He probably felt it was innocuous cause he was like you know..there.

but physically picking someone up as if they were a child and throwing them into a pool against their will

Yep. Look at all of that struggle in the video! JPP can barely keep him contained on his shoulder!

EDIT:

I do get it though. Jets steal all the talk in NY. Then on the day the Giants embarrass them the big story is an unflattering one.

Dude, I don't even care about that. I just think when it's all said and done people saying how awful it was for Prince will end up caring about it more than he will.

[TheLegendary]

Were you there? Do you know the context or the circumstances? Have you ever been in dorm room or around a bunch of friends acting a fool? Of course some people take it too far but seriously with the outrage? I'm surprised it matters one way or the other to anyone or that profootballtalk is making it into tonights big story (5 twitter updates about it? Really?). It's a bunch of jocks/men acting like assholes towards one another (so yeah, guys hanging out). When he rips his ACL or something, call me. Until then, gimme a break. For the record, I'm not defending anything. I just couldn't care less to show outrage about shit that probably happens in every NFL locker room around the league (or college campus for that matter except far far worse).

Ie other people are douchebags therefore Im fine with this display of douchebaggery.

[Futurevoid]

Ie other people are douchebags therefore Im fine with this display of douchebaggery.

Again, call me when someone is injured or truly scarred with some horrible life changing event. In the interim, let me know when you get off of that moral high horse you're riding.

[FrenchMovieTheme]

I don't know anymore than you do. Garfolo is supposed to post something on it tomorrow (apparently he spoke to Prince at the game) so I suppose we'll find out then. Of course it is. It's a complete dick move. Never argued otherwise. It's hazing! It's a bunch young guys acting their age is my point.;) As noted, maybe I'm not quite as angered or whatever you want to describe it as because I've seen worst in person in College frat house initiations. Agreed on that one. That's what leads me to ask - if it was some big terrible thing that Prince will need therapy over for the next ten years to get over, I'm not so sure Weatherford would have posted it to begin. He probably felt it was innocuous cause he was like you know..there. Yep. Look at all of that struggle in the video! JPP can barely keep him contained on his shoulder! EDIT: Dude, I don't even care about that. I just think when it's all said and done people saying how awful it was for Prince will end up caring about it more than he will.

are you dense? listen to the shit being said and look at prince's face afterwards. you are naive if you think he could've just "struggled away" and had no repercussions. that's what hazing is. you have a group of dudes picking on someone and if they tell anyone about it or don't take the hazing then it's going to be worse the next time

[Futurevoid]

you are naive if you think he could've just "struggled away" and had no repercussions.

What are they going to do? Beat him up in the alley out back? Pull out the baseball bats until he can't walk? Please follow your logic through to conclusion. What repercussions?

Are they going to tie him to the field goal post next time and throw ketchup, mayo and other condiments on him? I seem to remember that happening on the last hard knocks with the Jets.

[FrenchMovieTheme]

What are they going to do? Beat him up in the alley out back? Pull out the baseball bats until he can't walk? Please follow your logic through to conclusion. What repercussions? Are they going to tie him to the field goal post next time and throw ketchup, mayo and other condiments on him? I seem to remember that happening on the last hard knocks with the Jets.

not necessarily physical repercussions in all instances. sometimes it can be social repercussions or "not fitting in" with the guys because you didn't go along with it. but like the old saying goes, boys will be boys! nothing to see here!

[squicken]

Alright bros I'm not sure what we're arguing over here. Everyone agrees it's hazing. We all understand what hazing is. We all understand some people go to far. We all agree what JPP did was an asshole thing.

It's just an unflattering story. We love those! Freeman and tacos. Kevin Kolb. Shirtless VY. Sex boat. Brady . . . doing lots of things. And now this.

[Futurevoid]

Everyone agrees it's hazing. We all understand what hazing is. We all understand some people go to far. We all agree what JPP did was an asshole thing.

Yep. I just don't believe Prince is quite as weak minded about it as some make it sound.

It's just an unflattering story. We love those! Freeman and tacos. Kevin Kolb. Shirtless VY. Sex boat. Brady . . . doing lots of things. And now this.

So does that mean the next time JPP gets a sack folks will say he threw them in the tub?

[LJ11]

JPP article in the NYT, cool read.

lol @ the blackmail bit.

Edit: fixed link

[Futurevoid]

Link is broken, LJ.

Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/ma...er=rss&emc=rss

[BannedEpisode]

Any hazing that involves the risk of physical harm is bullshit and does nothing but causes fissures in the locker room.

[LJ11]

Link is broken, LJ. Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/ma...er=rss&emc=rss

Yeah, I was lying in bed, on the iPad, and fucked it up. Actually got up to fix it, what a waste!

this dude seriously has a shot at being one of the all time greats. he was out of his mind at times last season.

[squicken]

Y So does that mean the next time JPP gets a sack folks will say he threw them in the tub?

I'm guessing whenever Prince gives up a play we'll wonder what the true cost will end up being

In person, Pierre-Paul is surprisingly soft-spoken and friendly. Sitting in the team’s large locker room, which is actually shaped like a football, he answered every question politely, often punctuating his answers with “Yes, sir.”

Gotta love the NFL PR. You'd think he was a choir boy, when, as we've all seen, he's a borderline psychopath

[Futurevoid]

Yeah, I was lying in bed, on the iPad

I know that feeling. The auto spelling correction drives me nuts.

I'm guessing whenever Prince gives up a play we'll wonder what the true cost will end up being

:jnc

Cuts to the arms by the defensive line no doubt. He'll have notches that look like Coples (ewww).

[Rorschach]

Link is broken, LJ. Here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/19/ma...er=rss&emc=rss

you can just copy pasta and it works! :P

Anyway, thanks for posting LJ.

[LJ11]

you can just copy pasta and it works! :P Anyway, thanks for posting LJ.

right, but i got cute and tried to label the link with a description. boy did i fuck that up. lol

[Futurevoid]

boy did i fuck that up. lol

In the fucking tub with you!

By the way, I mentioned earlier about Randle possibly running a wrong route that led to Eli's INT according to the beat writers - well they were wrong. Just a pure 100% Eli fuck up on that one:

"It was kind of a throwaway. I didn’t want to throw it, just throw it over the head of the receiver, and try to get it more out of bounds than what happened. So, I didn’t want to throw it to the receiver. I just have to make it more obvious, and throw it out of bounds."

Worst.Throwaway.Ever.

[Rorschach]

right, but i got cute and tried to label the link with a description. boy did i fuck that up. lol

No, I mean you can copy/paste your link (I just right clicked your link and clicked "open in new tab"). It works. But I guess futurevoid's link is good too: for the lazy!

[Chili]

I think he'll be the second string QB.

I wonder if the Redskins will go in with three QBs or two like last year. I can't see them taking just the two rookie QBs into the season, so I'm thinking three most likely. But I would love an extra spot for one of our young receivers while keeping Banks (Robinson and Briscoe looked good today).

[Eric Walton]

just had a dream where Bane from Batman kidnapped me and threw me in the sewers to die, but then Jared Allen showed up and told me we're in this together.

Fantastic dream

[DMczaf]

Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point. Don't smoke crack.

[Milchjon]

I thought you rabid dogs might enjoy this quote:

Brady comes from a loving and affectionate family. When asked if he resembled his father, Tom Sr., as a parent, he smiled and nodded. “Very much so. But he had three daughters to start. So there was a lot of sensitivity in our house,” Brady said. “With two boys, it’s a little rough. They’re always playing rough. I’ll play rough with them.”

And a two year old pic from Trindon Holliday's rookie hazing:

[jakncoke]

Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point. Don't smoke crack.

:me

[Striker]

Gotta love the NFL PR. You'd think he was a choir boy, when, as we've all seen, he's a borderline psychopath

Is this based off the Prince-hazing thing? Who knows what it was about. It was probably, given what we know, payback for something Prince did to him at some point. Picking him out of the roster with no rhyme or reason would be extremely strange; thus not very likely. Not like JPP pulled a Leonard Little or a Ray Lewis.

[Eric Walton]

Gentlemen, which brings me to my next point. Don't smoke crack.

I have only had three NFL dreams, and for a guy that lucid dreams every night I'd say that's fine. F U DM
:(

[Fox318]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JKxx...e_gdata_player

[jakncoke]

the kids heart is in the right place "mark sanchez stinks" but his savior is wrong as he stinks just as bad

[cuevas, PhD.]

the kids heart is in the right place "mark sanchez stinks" but his savior is wrong as he stinks just as bad

He's probably just repeating what his dad says. Stupid jets fans.

[DeaconKnowledge]

Whining about losses is a Harbaugh staple. It's never a Harbaugh coached team's fault that they lost. It's always the reffing, or the other team getting away with something.

[Fox318]

The best part about the jets game yesterday was that the head ref name was Don King.

[jakncoke]

im glad my name isnt the same as anyone famous

[TheLegendary]

im glad my name isnt the same as anyone famous

Must be annoying when you're at a bar and everyone keeps asking for you.

[Fox318]

Several Glendale Arizona news sources are reporting a man shot another man in the face in the Northwest parking lot of the University of Phoenix Stadium Friday night. The shooting happened outside while inside the stadium the Raiders were playing the Cardinals in a preseason NFL matchup.

Reportedly a fight broke out between two men and one of the men pulled a gun and shot the other in the face. The shooter is in custody and the victim is in the hospital in critical condition.



The incident is all too familiar to the Raiders and their fans whose annual preseason matchup with Bay Area rival 49ers was canceled until further notice due to a shooting that occurred following a game at Candlestick park two seasons ago. That violence had the NFL and the Raiders beefing up their security.

For this particular incident, there is no word on what started the altercation, who was a fan of whom (as if that should matter).

But I urge you to leave those matters to others who can't separate sport and life. Keep your thoughts with the victim and his family.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2...nals-preseason

[Alligatorjandro]

what happened in here last night

[Sanjuro]

Why is Tebow holding Chad Pennington in your avatar?

[Seda]

Haven't been able to see any highlights but how is Alshon Jeffrey doing for you Bears guys? I wish we would have got him for the Panthers but oh well. He came through for us so many times at South Carolina.

He's been good, even last week when the rest of the Bears stunk it up, he played well.

[AngmarsKing701]

what happened in here last night

Football.

And Harbs being a whiny bitch.

[Major_Lazer]

Several Glendale Arizona news sources are reporting a man shot another man in the face in the Northwest parking lot of the University of Phoenix Stadium Friday night. The shooting happened outside while inside the stadium the Raiders were playing the Cardinals in a preseason NFL matchup. Reportedly a fight broke out between two men and one of the men pulled a gun and shot the other in the face. The shooter is in custody and the victim is in the hospital in critical condition. The incident is all too familiar to the Raiders and their fans whose annual preseason matchup with Bay Area rival 49ers was canceled until further notice due to a shooting that occurred following a game at Candlestick park two seasons ago. That violence had the NFL and the Raiders beefing up their security. For this particular incident, there is no word on what started the altercation, who was a fan of whom (as if that should matter). But I urge you to leave those matters to others who can't separate sport and life. Keep your thoughts with the victim and his family. http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2...nals-preseason

Terrible news hope the guy recovers, damn Raiders bringing their thuggery on and off te field. Although my first bet would've been Kolb going after Tommy Kelly in the parking lot.

[cajunator]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JKxx...e_gdata_player

This could be considered child abuse.

[FrenchMovieTheme]

Terrible news hope the guy recovers, damn Raiders bringing their thuggery on and off te field. Although my first bet would've been Kolb going after Tommy Kelly in the parking lot.

it seems wherever the raiders go, problems follow. our team recognized that and now we refuse to play the raiders in the preseason anymore. that's probably why york is against sharing a stadium with the uncivilized animals!

[chuckddd]

And a two year old pic from Trindon Holliday's rookie hazing:

omg, how will that guy ever be the same? He could have torn both acl's on that thing!

Terrible news hope the guy recovers, damn Raiders bringing their thuggery on and off te field. Although my first bet would've been Kolb going after Tommy Kelly in the parking lot.

Yeah, there aren't any nutjobs in AZ that might shoot up a bunch of innocent people...

[Slo]

Alright bros I'm not sure what we're arguing over here. Everyone agrees it's hazing. We all understand what hazing is. We all understand some people go to far. We all agree what JPP did was an asshole thing.

Pretty much. I'm not quite outraged enough to paint my fingernails, paint my face, braid my long blonde flowing locks, turn my Viking hat sideways and ride my VIKEBIKE to the capital, but I'm right on the edge.

Don't push me.

[Major_Lazer]

Yeah, there aren't any nutjobs in AZ that might shoot up a bunch of innocent people...

I'm sure Arizona has their fair share of nutjobs, they just usually focus on hating illegals.

[Nemesis121]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUigCWIHJEQ Why did JPP throw the CB in the water? Prince didn't seem to enjoy that. The Mara's got Youtube to pull the original so Florio has it hosted there edit: new link

Got the rookie hazing since he was hurt 2 days into camp last year.....

[RBH]

Pretty much. I'm not quite outraged enough to paint my fingernails, paint my face, braid my long blonde flowing locks, turn my Viking hat sideways and ride my VIKEBIKE to the capital, but I'm right on the edge. Don't push me.

[Nameless]

Glad Jacobs and James seem to be ok. Jacobs looks inspired this season, I think he could thrive in his role. B-Jac in our jumbo package with Big Issac leading the way means we have a guaranteed three yards any time we need it. That'll definitely come in handy.

Tremaine Brock most like lost a job tonight while Eric "Flesh Eating" Bakhtiari earned one. I love the idea of having him for when Brooks takes is weekly in-game nap. Kid has a motor and clear instincts. He'll wreak havoc late in games for us.

Tolzien has to be the 3rd QB. We'd be insane to let him go. Not saying it'll happen, but it wouldn't floor me to see him as the guy one day. Josh Johnson's the odd man out..