[gohepcat]

None of them....or the most boring one you can think of. Conspiracy theories make stupid people think they're smart. They are almost exclusively the domain of pseudo intellectuals

[EulaCapra]

JFK assassination theories and UFO (not necessarily aliens) cover-up have good odds of having some truths.

I just learned today that Marilyn Monroe's death is a conspiracy theory now too ranging from plain ol' suicide or accidental overdose to the mob/CIA/Kennedy's putting a hit on her. Oh, the 60's.

[ThoseDeafMutes]

How do the conspiracy nuts explain that away?

They say unmanned missions succeeded, but not manned ones. Presumably, the mirrors were landed there by such a mission.

[I Push Fat Kids]

JFK


Legitimately sketch. At the root.

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

What about RFK's death?

[J-Rock]

The current God is really the Devil because the Devil actually killed the orginal God long ago.

[Kabouter]

None of them....or the most boring one you can think of. Conspiracy theories make stupid people think they're smart. They are almost exclusively the domain of pseudo intellectuals

Okay, none of them huh? So if I point to, say, price and policy changes in the Dutch telecommunications sector that seem perfectly timed together, you think that there is zero chance of collusion?

[zerotol]

Nope. Extensive ballistics tests back up the notion that the shot that did it came from above and behind. A shot from the front would have caused an explosion out the back of his head, because bullets travel through their target in the direction they are shot. The Zapruder film pretty much closes the book on the matter. Oswald shot him. Now, why Oswald shot him...that's the more interesting and certainly more relevant question. I don't necessarily disbelieve Oswald when he says "I'm a patsy," even if he was the shooter.

I still respect your opinion but I disagree completely! That being said, I'm out :)

[viciouskillersquirrel]

Harold Holt was killed by the CIA or the KGB.

Julian Assange was set up.

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

I'll see your "epic debunking" and raise you a Phil Plait. (No seriously, I want to see it. Link?)

Well, when I approve of a debunking, then you know it must be good :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4tk-3KeYNQ

Go to the 32min mark.

Okay, none of them huh? So if I point to, say, price and policy changes in the Dutch telecommunications sector that seem perfectly timed together, you think that there is zero chance of collusion?

When discussing bias and prejudice of people to want to believe in conspiracy claims, its often failed to be mentioned that there are some people, in my opinion, who are similarly prejudiced in rejecting any of them on the sole basis of the taboo associated with the term 'conspiracy theory'.

[DarkHeartedKill]

Oh, that area tends to get into a lot of bigoted nonsense

Yea, upon reading further into it I saw some of the bigotry you're talking about.

[VALIS]

None of them....or the most boring one you can think of. Conspiracy theories make stupid people think they're smart. They are almost exclusively the domain of pseudo intellectuals

Funny, I've long thought the domain of pseudo intellectuals is giant, dismissive brush strokes.

Hundreds of conspiracy theories have turned out to be entirely or partly true over the years, it's just that when that happens, they get moved from the "theory" category to "history."

The people who can't separate chemtrails and ancient lizard masters and 9/11 was an inside job from more plausible theories are the dolts.

[Mecha_Infantry]

Giancano got Kennedy killed
Bush knocked down the towers
CIA activity in Central And West Africa

[Orayn]

Well, when I approve of a debunking, then you know it must be good :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4tk-3KeYNQ

It's a little late for me to watch the whole thing and cross-check the two right now, but I'd just like to let you know that the Phil Plait link does address a lot of the supposed mortal wounds you mentioned. If you feel it does not address one or more of them sufficiently, we can use science and fight about it.

[Bombadil]

I'd believe that there exists a secret division of the government that is responsible for developing augmented human beings.

[Kabouter]

When discussing bias and prejudice of people to want to believe in conspiracy claims, its often failed to be mentioned that there are some people, in my opinion, who are similarly prejudiced in rejecting any of them on the sole basis of the taboo associated with the term 'conspiracy theory'.

It's strange, because you do see several major cartels caught and fined each year, particularly by the European Union. In the Netherlands, the most famous example in recent memory being the construction sector. Large construction companies would check with each other at what price they would be willing to do large construction projects (usually for the government), then the company who could offer the lowest price would be 'allowed' to do it. They would then put an extra amount on top of that offer, most of which would be paid out to the other companies. Went on for about a decade, led to parliamentary inquiries when the double set of books of one company were leaked by a whistle blower, and led to a (pathetically small) settlement with the government.

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

It's a little late for me to watch the whole thing and cross-check the two right now, but I'd just like to let you know that the Phil Plait link does address a lot of the supposed mortal wounds you mentioned. If you feel it does not address one or more of the sufficiently, we can use science and fight about it.

I haven't read the entire thing, but by quickly skimming it Plait does address the same points in the documentary. The difference is many of his explanations are in the context of the Moon's atmospheric profile. Whilst echoing his explanations, this documentary actually replicates the photos on the Earth (obviously), and amazingly, reproduces the characteristics seen on the Moon photos. The advantage of video is that, rather than text, you actually see how a single light source (rather than multiple ones as suggested by the conspiracy claim) can create shadows pointing to different directions on a similar terrain as to the Moon.

Why it took 40 years for someone to do this documentary is beyond me

[Canis lupus]

9/11, some things sound too good to be true.

[viciouskillersquirrel]

How can you confuse a weather balloon with a flying saucer? I've always thought this suggestion to be less plausible than the alien explanation itself.

You misunderstand - I think there was a cover up, but that whatever was found was terrestrial in nature.

[BocoDragon]

Yeah and just stuff like Justin getting noticed first on youtube which I think is actually a scam and was set up by his label. Same as One Direction, I wouldn't doubt they were rigged to win the X Factor competition.

I could definitely buy this, actually. I've thought that myself.

A "meteoric rise to success on YouTube" is just what I'd devise as a brilliant marketing move in 2008.

But such deception is the everyday reality of marketing (that's my field).

[Jason Raize '75 - '04]

You misunderstand - I think there was a cover up, but that whatever was found was terrestrial in nature.

That much they admit already. They've changed their story three times.

[Hindle]

None of them really, all of them have no logic whatsoever.

[V_Arnold]

None of them really, all of them have no logic whatsoever.

I would so buy your book on this subject. Please, elaborate!

[davepoobond]

i think JFK is my #1. 99% certain there had to be multiple shooters.

moon landing... i'm betting 50% on that one.

[zon]

Gang stalking.

That's just sad to watch.

[Canis lupus]

That's just sad to watch.

Too much paranoia, that seems like an everyday drive to Walmart.

[Dark Ninja]

Professional boxing is rigged

[Einchy]

I was listening to the Thom Hartman radio show one time and one of these people called the show. Pretty sad stuff. Thom knew exactly what it was and didn't bother with the call. He pretty much pegged it as stemming from mental illness. Essentially people being fed bullshit ideas about an organized group of unseen others who are out to get them. Sadly it already plays right into many of their paranoid delusions to begin with (perhaps legitimizing it in their mind). Not sure if the you are actually serious about this one, because it's far more sad/tragic than "ha ha look at that crazy conspiracy nut" for a laugh.

Yeah, I discovered gang stalking a few years ago. It's pretty sad going into those threads and seeing the amount of people who desperately need help.

No where on the internet will you find a more concentrated form of crazy than gang stalking videos on Youtube.

[AShep]

Is aliens building the pyramids still a thing?

[Forsete]

JFK: Oswald was the only shooter, but he had backers.


Olof Palme (Swedish PM, assassinated in 1986): The Police/Military or more likely some elements within those had something to do with the murder.

[Combichristoffersen]

JFK: Oswald was the only shooter, but he had backers. Olof Palme (Swedish PM, assassinated in 1986): The Police/Military or more likely some elements within those had something to do with the murder.

There are some really whack theories about the Palme assasination too, e.g. that Palme was suffering from AIDS, and to avoid a public scandal he arranged for an elaborate suicide where hired killers shot him, or that Lisbeth Palme and Mårten Palme were somehow responsible for killing Olof. There's also the mysterious death of Carl-Fredrik Algernon related to the Palme killing. Personally I think the South African lead is interesting though, not to mention the Bofors affair.

[Buba Big Guns]

i think JFK is my #1. 99% certain there had to be multiple shooters. moon landing... i'm betting 50% on that one.

There are absolutely no logical arguments going for the moon landing conspiracies.

[Kusagari]

The most obvious coverup is the Kecksburg UFO incident. It was first stated to be a meteorite, and then in 2005 declared to be a Russian satellite. This is in spite of NASA's own chief scientist saying in 2003 that it was absolutely impossible that it could be a satellite.

NASA has also been sued over the incident, and just 'happened' to lose two boxes of papers related to the incident.

Not saying it was actually an alien spacecraft, but there is definitely something involving that incident that NASA and the government do not want people knowing about.

[Sloane]

The current Paul McCartney is a fake. The real one died way back when The Beatles were at the peak of their popularity. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_is_dead

I believe that one, too!

[Kreios]

Not sure if it was mentioned, but oil and car companies buying up battery patents, along with other alternatives

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_...NiMH_batteries
http://www.ev1.org/chevron.htm
http://www.greenoptions.com/products...toyota-rav4-ev

[Jaffaboy]

That a few select families have controlled the majority of wealth throughout history.

Definitely this.

I like the idea that most conspiracies are set ups and actually distractions from the shit that actually goes down. It's like they plan the conspiracies out to distract people from the stuff that they really want to hide.

[SyNapSe]

advance knowledge of Pearl Harbor attack
ancient aliens

[PastorOfMuppets]

JFK - This is obvious right? The official explanation is so unrealistic.

The 9/11 Tower 7 thing - I'm not saying the US government planned 9/11 or anything but the Tower 7 collapse is so strange and unbelievable.

Justification for Invading Iraq - Another really obvious one. This conspiracy was so successful, the media as a whole got on board for it.

[Raiden]

JFK.

After watching Oliver Stone's JFK that shit is imprinted in my brain.

Thats about it for me.

[Wazzim]

The rest of the world didn't even believe in the WMDs in Iraq, that one is just a perfect example of how the government influences the media.

Propaganda didn't stop after the 20th century, it's real and sneakier than ever.

[Jake.]

i love conspiracy theories, but the only one's i really subscribe to are:

JFK shooting.
dulce base.
men in black (don't believe they are extra-terrestrial though, just human agents from some sort of clandestine black-ops/government level).

i also think 9/11 happened as we saw it happen (a suicide attack by al-qaeda operatives), but the CIA probably knew about it happening beforehand and 'allowed' it to occur to justify a war/further military expansion in the middle east.

[Rygar 8 Bit]

not going to say it was aliens but it was aliens

[Xun]

Anything that comes out of this idiot's mouth is at the bottom of the list

It's funny because he sort of looks like a lizard.

[heliconsoul]

JFK for sure, lots doesn't add up there.

i also think 9/11 happened as we saw it happen (a suicide attack by al-qaeda operatives), but the CIA probably knew about it happening beforehand and 'allowed' it to occur to justify a war/further military expansion in the middle east.

Fake moon landings and stuff like the above (US planned 9/11 or allowed it to happen) blow my mind as to how any rational person can believe it though.

[Jake.]

Fake moon landings and stuff like the above (US planned 9/11 or allowed it to happen) blow my mind as to how any rational person can believe it though.

it blows my mind how any rational person in 2012 can believe that their government is always, 100% doing things out of the population they represent's interest and have no dirt on their hands (especially considering the CIA's past). i honestly do not see how it is far-fetched at all to believe that the CIA had knowledge that 9/11 was about to take place, allowed it to happen to drum-up support for further military expansion and access to oil reserves in the middle east. i don't think they did it because they are necessarily "evil" (of course if they did let it happen, then they are), but it just the sad truth that money rules the world. C.R.E.A.M.

edit - i should mention that i totally believe the moon landing took place and that i'm not american. i also typed this on my phone, so sorry for typo's and shit not making sense.

[EdibleExplosives]

I used to believe in all the 9/11 shit years ago from Alex Jones, until I really looked into it myself. It didn't help when I found a video of him shouting homophobic bullshit about 'estrogen in the water' that was turning 'our children' gay. That's when I realised he's batshit insane.

I've always been interested in the JFK theories but I've never really looked into it enough.

[SquiddyCracker]

Secret supersoldier programs in the U.S.
We already know of past secret supersoldier programs, and they are practically already conducting public supersoldier programs (exoskeletons and whatnot).

[double jump]

the one that police have to give a certain amount of tickets and make a certain amount of arrest per season.

[glaurung]

I used to believe in all the 9/11 shit years ago from Alex Jones, until I really looked into it myself. It didn't help when I found a video of him shouting homophobic bullshit about 'estrogen in the water' that was turning 'our children' gay. That's when I realised he's batshit insane. I've always been interested in the JFK theories but I've never really looked into it enough.

Alex Jones and David Icke are poison to the conspiracy theory communities. It is highly probable that these guys themselves are puppets of the conspirators who use them to muddy the waters to such a degree that nothing makes sense any more. Alex Jones crossed my tolerance limits when he went on his rant regarding clockwork elves and government employees taking hallucinogenic drugs all the time.

I say the government coverup of unknown flying objects is one that has been proven true time and time again. Even looking into what Stanton Friedman has investigated over the years is proof enough. Plus I have my own experiences from the Soviet era.

[Ikael]

- UFOs are real, but they are experimental aircraft which are far, far more advanced than conventional ones

- Politicians killing other politicians in "democratic" systems (JFK assasination or pretty much the entirety of the Spanish history trougth the XIXth century)

- Pre - babylonic civilizations existed. Not necessary Atlantis "Inca astronauts on space" like, but rather bronze age societies quite socially advanced. Archeological findings such as Gobekli Tepe are encouraging.

- Secret societies do exist, but there's no dark master plan for world domination or for setting up the course of history, it is rather a divided and facetious competition for petty money and influence. Contrary to popular belief, rather than being masterful manipulators, the ineptitude of the Bilderberg club and many masonic organizations is astounding.

- The human brain has capacities yet to be exploited with proper training. No Jedi-like powers, but serious studies of the effects of meditation on the brain are already pointing out at a far wider array of skills and capacity for self healing, perception and psicosomatic control than initially thought

- The myth of Shangri-La and the like alludes to secret monastic orders located in pretty remote locations trought Asia such as the Sarmoung oder. Said orders are playing an entirely different game than the "regular" secret societies, and are mostly devouted to the training of great masters.