[numble]

From nothing to four Golds at the 1992 World Champs and the 1992 Olympics to 12 Golds at the 1994 World Champs. That kind of improvement is questionable. At the 94 Asian Games, 11 Chinese women swimmers tested positive for dihydrotestosterone; at the 96 Olympics they only won a single gold medal, and no positive tests. 98 World Champs and four swimmers tested positive, plus human growth hormone was found in a swimmer's luggage. Before the 2000 Olympics, China removed four women from its squad for odd test results and no swimmer from China earned any medals. At the 2004 Olympics, none of the swimmers tested positive and they earned one gold medal. That is a a lot of up and down in the medal count, and a lot of positive drug tests. Like I said, I think they improvement lately is due to a change in coaching. But, they have a pretty bad history of cheating.

There have been more Americans stripped of medals for cheating. We might as well question their accomplishments and wonder if their coaches are doping them up.

[NathanMcMahon]

Because he lost it in battle.

so, they gave him a robot arm?

[spiderman123]

There have been more Americans stripped of medals for cheating. We might as well question their accomplishments and wonder if their coaches are doping them up.

His argument is for swimming though.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

There have been more Americans stripped of medals for cheating. We might as well question their accomplishments and wonder if their coaches are doping them up.

Oh yeah, I agree.

Like I said, the difference between US cheating and Chinese cheating is governmental involvement.

Like, a coach can't change a birth certificate.

[Cipherr]

Everyone's hating on Merica.

Indeed, the sodium up in here is delicious. Congrats to Phelps, dude is a beast.

[heliconsoul]

Phelps smashed one world record when he was only 15 years old. And that record was previously held by a 16 year old.

OMG DOPING, SOMETHING DOESN'T ADD UP

[numble]

His argument is for swimming though.

His argument is for more than swimming.

[Hot Coldman]

so, they gave him a robot arm?

Someone at Universal just came, and has no idea why.

[Meadows]

Why is the fact that he's american more important than the fact he's called Michael Phelps for the thread title? I don't get it.

because Korey

[ChiTownBuffalo]

His argument is for more than swimming.

Swimming and gymnastics.

I really don't have a problem with China in other sports.

Asia in general has been acting fucking shady in Badminton.

Of course badminton.

[NathanMcMahon]

Someone at Universal just came, and has no idea why.

haha

[spiderman123]

His argument is for more than swimming.

From what I've seen he provided valid statistics/ arguments that China has a history of cheating in Swimming events.

[Steelrain]

A young female athlete who is great at something? She must be a biological male and/or doping and/or an advanced android. Delete as appropriate.

Yep, lets ignore the record of cheating that china has with these events. Lets just ignore it!

History? PSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

[mxgt]

I always laugh when American sports sites prioritise amount of medals over golds won

Face it, no one can beat our Chinese overlords.

[numble]

From what I've seen he provided valid statistics/ arguments that China has a history of cheating in Swimming events.

Birth certificates have nothing to do with swimming.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Birth certificates have nothing to do with swimming.

But they do in gymnastics.

For like the 3rd time? I am suspicious of China in the following areas:

Swimming

Gymnastics

[godelsmetric]

Famous Americans at the Olympic games: Michael Phelps, good at swimming.



Famous Brits at the Olympic games: Sir Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of world wide web.

[D_prOdigy]

Yep, lets ignore the record of cheating that china has with these events. Lets just ignore it! History? PSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

You would rather make an error in critical thinking than trust the best anti-drugs testing facilities in the world ever?

[daviyoung]

Yep, lets ignore the record of cheating that china has with these events. Lets just ignore it! History? PSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

If the Olympics committee don't care, I don't care.

[onemic]

A young female athlete who is great at something? She must be a biological male and/or doping and/or an advanced android. Delete as appropriate.

Ah yes, the bigot chasers have come out. Where did I even mention that she was female? I'm talking about her age.

EDIT: I thought she was faster than Lochte in general. Still China and doping go hand in hand.

EDIT2: Phelps beat the world record at 15? Shit, guess age isn't a thing in swimming, I thought it was like track.

[spiderman123]

Yep, lets ignore the record of cheating that china has with these events. Lets just ignore it! History? PSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

PPl cheat all the time. America is no better when it comes to track and field

[ElectricBlue187]

Phelps is a freak of nature. Congrats, freak.

[daviyoung]

Ah yes, the bigot chasers have come out. Where did I even mention that she was female? I'm talking about her age. EDIT: I thought she was faster than Lochte in general. Still China and doping go hand in hand. EDIT2: Phelps beat the world record at 15? Shit, guess age isn't a thing in swimming, I thought it was like track.

Because she was faster than men. That's the real problem according to the American swim coach.

[Bisnic]

because Korey

Everyone gives that excuse, just who is he? Some stupidly proud american who always post things like that?

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Famous Americans at the Olympic games: Michael Phelps, good at swimming. Famous Brits at the Olympic games: Sir Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of world wide web.

[McLovin]

Oh it's cool to be patriotic again?
*non-sarcastic AMERICA FUCK YEAH!!!1*

[MedIC86]

Still China and doping go hand in hand.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Olympic_medals

also lance something?

[mxgt]

Because she was faster than men. That's the real problem according to the American swim coach.

Well she wasn't, she was faster than Lochte over a 50m stretch but overall she was much slower I believe.

[heliconsoul]

Everyone gives that excuse, just who is he? Some stupidly proud american who always post things like that?

It's his thing, that he does. I'm sure he thinks it's hilarious.

[ElectricBlue187]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...Olympic_medals also lance something?

There's a much bigger field of US medal winners than pretty much every county except maybe Russia or Combined Germany

The US has been 1-2 in medal counts since the late 1800s

[desku]

Wait, people really care about this?

[marrec]

Famous Americans at the Olympic games: Michael Phelps, good at swimming. Famous Brits at the Olympic games: Sir Tim Berners-Lee, inventor of world wide web.

I bet Phelps could drink Berners-Lee under the table.

[Steelrain]

You would rather make an error in critical thinking than trust the best anti-drugs testing facilities in the world ever?

Explain to me how why it is not understandable that a country with a history of cheating time and time again in a specific event is receiving a skeptical reception after an amazing performance in the same event.

Also, tests can be beat. Armstrong never failed a test, after all.

[braves01]

She's gonna be tested, and they keep samples for years so even if they can't detect anything right away odds are they'll find out. I think that's how Marion Jones got busted. I say let the girl enjoy her win until there's more substance to these allegations.

[WedgeX]

He's the greatest swimmer. But swimming and track athletes have the ability to win multiple medals in a single Olympics. Jesse Owens and Carl Lewis won multiple golds in kind of different events, long jump and running. Have there been any athletes that have won multiple medals in different disciplines?

The true greatest. Jim Thorpe.

[rCIZZLE]

Jim Thorpe

beaten by seconds ^

[DrFunk]

LMAO, it's ridiculous how Korey can rile all of you guys up

[onemic]

She's gonna be tested, and they keep samples for years so even if they can't detect anything right away odds are they'll find out. I think that's how Marion Jones got busted. I say let the girl enjoy her win until there's more substance to these allegations.

I always thought Marion Jones just admitted it?

[numble]

There's a much bigger field of US medal winners than pretty much every county except maybe Russia or Combined Germany The US has been 1-2 in medal counts since the late 1800s

Here's a list of disqualifications for drug use, not just athletes stripped for cheating:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_..._Olympic_Games

[Dr Prob]

I don't think inventing the world wide web is an olympic event.

It would be like the lamest too, unless you had to vault into your workstation. But even then, there are people throwing javelins.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

I always thought Marion Jones just admitted it?

Well, I think what happened was is her samples get sent in 2003 and before the test results were relased, she fessed up.

[godelsmetric]

I bet Phelps could drink Berners-Lee under the table.

Well, yes, I bet an athelete at the peak of physical condition is in better physical condition than a computer scientist too.

[linkboy]

Everyone from the UK, all you have to do to "win" this is remind us from the US that you don't have to watch NBC.

[ElectricBlue187]

Here's a list of disqualifications for drug use, not just athletes stripped for cheating: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_..._Olympic_Games

1992 is the only year that stands out. Seems pretty even other than that.

[BAW]

Oh come on now. He's a great athlete, but the greatest athlete in the world?

Dude's a swimmer. Anyone can swim. Not anyone can drive a Formula 1 car, let alone win 7 world championships.

[Takuya]

roflmao @ greatest Athlete.

[braves01]

.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Well, yes, I bet an athelete at the peak of physical condition is in better physical condition than a computer scientist too.

You know what though, the athlete might be worse off, faster metabolism might mean faster processing of toxins. They may get drunker faster, but they'll get over it faster?

I dunno.

[NathanMcMahon]

Everyone from the UK, all you have to do to "win" this is remind us from the US that you don't have to watch NBC.

in that case, I'm in the UK watching on the BBC and a US citizen, do I win the world?

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Oh come on now. He's a great athlete, but the greatest athlete in the world? Dude's a swimmer. Anyone can swim. Not anyone can drive a Formula 1 car, let alone win 7 world championships.

Bring back the classic LeMans start, over say, 100m.