[RustyNails]

Isn't poligaf a thing? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479141 Jesus christ. How many "Romney is a shithead" threads do we need per day?

100s. He is a shitbag. Everyone needs to know who this clown is.

[Czigga]

Hyperbole makes shitty arguments.

How is that hyperbolic? Most posts in this thread are exactly that. That is, the argument that the rich don’t pay enough taxes, the middle-class / poor pay too much, and that is why everything is in the shitter.

If anything the article itself is hyperbolic, in that Romney’s tax plan makes no mention of any tax increases for the middle class at all; and the report makes the assumption that the middle class must end up paying more taxes to make up for lost revenues, even though Romney’s actual plan says nothing of the sort.

[GK86]

Fuck off Romney.

[pigeon]

The authors of the report are assuming Romney's tax cuts would be revenue neutral, meaning they'd have to be offset by eliminating tax exemptions. I haven't looked too deep into the report yet, but I haven't seen any mention of the possibility of using further spending cuts to pay for Romney's proposed income tax reduction. If that is not included as part of the analysis then I think it's probably best to ignore this report.

The study comments on this.

Spending cuts are excluded from the analysis. As a result, tax rate reductions are wholly financed by the most progressive possible combination of cuts in available income tax expenditures. If spending cuts were used as a form of partial financing for the rate cuts listed above, the precise distributional effects would depend on the composition of the cuts and which programs and government functions were reduced. It is likely, however, that cutting spending would make the plan even more regressive because government spending tends to benefit low- and middle-income households more than tax preferences do.

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How is that hyperbolic? Most posts in this thread are exactly that. That is, the argument that the rich don’t pay enough taxes, the middle-class / poor pay too much, and that is why everything is in the shitter. If anything the article itself is hyperbolic, in that Romney’s tax plan makes no mention of any tax increases for the middle class at all; and the report makes the assumption that the middle class must end up paying more taxes to make up for lost revenues, even though Romney’s actual plan says nothing of the sort.

Romney's actual plan says NOTHING SPECIFIC, so the study makes the best assumptions for his case, and his plan still sucks. Have you considered reading the report?

[Neuromancer]

Isn't poligaf a thing? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479141 Jesus christ. How many "Romney is a shithead" threads do we need per day?

As many as it takes.

[Xdrive05]

I thought we already did?

Well they need more money now.

Sit tight. Those jobs are right around the corner.

[Omegasquash]

Isn't poligaf a thing? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479141 Jesus christ. How many "Romney is a shithead" threads do we need per day?

He makes thread-worthy material.

[RurouniZel]

People who try to stifle the creation of new threads in favor of keeping the discussion contained within megathreads are annoying.

LOL

[Zefah]

LOL

What does this even mean?

[Kusagari]

Isn't poligaf a thing? http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=479141 Jesus christ. How many "Romney is a shithead" threads do we need per day?

We had a million Herman Cain threads.

Romney, as the actual nominee, will get a thread whenever he does something 'shithead' like.

Which is very often.

[Neuromancer]

What does this even mean?

Laugh Out Loud

[Ramblin]

What does this even mean?

Lots of love.

[Wazzim]

as long as the americans are told they're paying less they wont actually realise.

well then they deserve it

[Gabroni]

Someone needs to make a Rage Against the Romney Campaign already I mean how is he going to win I've seen someone try so hard at being so despicable.

The republican America CAN'T BE THAT STUPID

[Dax01]

What's even more amazing about this is the Romney campagin is decrying the sources on this as biased when the campaign called the same people unbiased when they used their figures to say Rick Perry's plan raised taxes on millions of Americans back in the primary.

[Dragoon En Regalia]

What does this even mean?

Lack Of Love, the best video game you've never played?

Also: Romney and his associates need to take a hike back to the Canaries. It's either that, or Prepare For Unforeseen Consequences™.

[SnakeswithLasers]

People who try to stifle the creation of new threads in favor of keeping the discussion contained within megathreads are annoying.

Seriously. It's an election year.

[LegendofJoe]

The study comments on this.

I thought that was the case. Regardless of the political implications I think the most interesting part of the report are the figures they calculate for what could be raised by eliminating certain tax exemptions. I am looking forward to reading what they came up with.

[EnderWiggles]

This plan sounds great, my taxes will be so low when I join everyone else in the 1%

[terrdactycalsrock]

Thank god there are other countries to move to, if this guy gets elected

[spiderman123]

Read the report here: http://www.brookings.edu/research/pa...wn-gale-looney

[WeAreStarStuff]

[Omegasquash]

Seriously. It's an election year.

If you have a politically diverse range of Facebook friends, right about now your wall looks like mine. Madness.

[Bay Maximus]

Most people on here owe their jobs to a "rich" person. And yet all you want to do is take and take and take some more. Well the cow is running dry come January and people will have to get off their butts and get to work. Pleading for handouts is not work btw.

[Dragoon En Regalia]

Pleading for handouts is not work btw.

According to the laws of modern physics: it is work.

So yeah. Filing paperwork and potentially getting hand cramps matters.

[Omegasquash]

Read the report here: http://www.brookings.edu/research/pa...wn-gale-looney

Will read the full report tonight...from the first chunk of it I'm highly interested.

[SquiddyCracker]

Waiting for that spin middle-class republicans.

Any of them here on GAF?
How do you rationalize the big gov stealing even more of your money?

[Tom_Cody]

If you have a politically diverse range of Facebook friends, right about now your wall looks like mine. Madness.

I also dislike that.

Oh well, I'll just go yell at a cloud or something.

[AlteredBeast]

All taxes need to go up. I applaud him raising taxes on middle class, but the top 10% should go up as well.

He won't be elected, though, and Obama won't raise taxes on the middle class.


EDIT: I am a middle-class republican, but have nothing to do with today's current crop of retardation emanating from the word holes of mouth breathers like Reince Preibus and Grover Norquist.

[TacticalFox88]

Most people on here owe their jobs to a "rich" person. And yet all you want to do is take and take and take some more. Well the cow is running dry come January and people will have to get off their butts and get to work. Pleading for handouts is not work btw.

thefuckisthisshit.jpg

[Omegasquash]

Most people on here owe their jobs to a "rich" person. And yet all you want to do is take and take and take some more. Well the cow is running dry come January and people will have to get off their butts and get to work. Pleading for handouts is not work btw.

Are...are you serious? You're not. I think. I don't know your post history, so I'm not sure.

[Omegasquash]

I also dislike that. Oh well, I'll just go yell at a cloud or something.

The tradeoff is that you spend less time seeing really ridiculous status updates like "Can't wait for the new Glee tonight lol!"

At least madness doesn't make me want to kill myself.

[Wazzim]

I thought that was the case. Regardless of the political implications I think the most interesting part of the report are the figures they calculate for what could be raised by eliminating certain tax exemptions. I am looking forward to reading what they came up with.

In my country parties are forced to let their plans be calculated by an independent organisation, that way they can't sell bullshit.

[ToxicAdam]

All taxes need to go up. I applaud him raising taxes on middle class, but the top 10% should go up as well. He won't be elected, though, and Obama won't raise taxes on the middle class. EDIT: I am a middle-class republican, but have nothing to do with today's current crop of retardation emanating from the word holes of mouth breathers like Reince Preibus and Grover Norquist.

He's not raising taxes on the middle class. This study is ASSUMING he will have to, to keep his plan revenue neutral.

[LegendofJoe]

In my country parties are forced to let their plans be calculated by an independent organisation, that way they can't sell bullshit.

We've got the Congressional Budget Office for that. Unfortunately, we also have policy think tanks like the Brookings and CATO Institute that are both highly influential and politically motivated. They put out a lot of great research, but they often muddle the waters when it comes to the public getting a clear picture about the benefits/consquences of proposed or enacted policies.

[Uncompromisable]

Most people on here owe their jobs to a "rich" person. And yet all you want to do is take and take and take some more. Well the cow is running dry come January and people will have to get off their butts and get to work. Pleading for handouts is not work btw.

So what's your opinion on rising income inequality in the US and its repercussions on the economy long term?

[Face it Tiger..]

This plan sounds great, my taxes will be so low when I join everyone else in the 1%

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[AlteredBeast]

He's not raising taxes on the middle class. This study is ASSUMING he will have to, to keep his plan revenue neutral.

Oh... should have known. Raising taxes, however intelligent and obvious that may be, is politically toxic right now.

[Kabouter]

In my country parties are forced to let their plans be calculated by an independent organisation, that way they can't sell bullshit.

You aren't forced, you could just not submit your plans (which I believe the PVV did at least once, and I suspect they will do again). Other parties will just use it against you as political ammo, because it basically proves it's no good anyway, and that you are aware of it.

[ConfusingJazz]

Oh... should have known. Raising taxes, however intelligent and obvious that may be, is politically toxic right now.

Unless its on households making 250k or more a year:

Support for President Obama's proposal to increase taxes on households making more than $250,000 per year is 58 - 37 percent in Florida, 60 - 37 percent in Ohio and 62 - 34 percent in Pennsylvania, the survey by Quinnipiac/CBS/The Times finds.

[ezrarh]

Rich people work really hard to make their money so they should keep a larger percentage of it than the middle class / the poor because they're just leeches on society.

[Forever]

As many as it takes.

The only answer.

[Black Mamba]

On the plus side, it's better than Herman Cain's proposal.

/brightersideofthings

[AlteredBeast]

Unless its on households making 250k or more a year:

Even just doing the 250k+ raise is not enough. They need to lower the standard.

[xavi42]

Wow,making up stuff and trying to scare people is something right out of The fox news playbook. The left is learning. Not going to help you much though, Obama is toast.

[Pctx]

100s. He is a shitbag. Everyone needs to know who this clown is.

Really? He's more of a shitbag than Obama? This election is about one thing and one thing only: lesser of two evils and Romney wins handily when it comes to the economy which is what this presidential election is all about.

[Forever]

Romney wins handily when it comes to the economy

How, exactly?

[Pctx]

How, exactly?

Simple. He's not Obama.

[AlteredBeast]

Really? He's more of a shitbag than Obama? This election is about one thing and one thing only: lesser of two evils and Romney wins handily when it comes to the economy which is what this presidential election is all about.

whhhhaaaaa? How can you say such a thing when Romney hasn't said one concrete thing about his budget proposals? You are pulling things out of your ass. Romney has embarrassed himself continually throughout this election cycle by refusing to take any hardline positions outside of ones that cost him politically with independents. he is going to lose this election despite Obama's weaknesses on the economy because he is THAT inept.

If he came out and said, "Raising taxes across the board is fair and necessary to maintain the country and build it for the future" Then I would consider voting for him. As he is now, he is beholden to his bundlers and donors who are complete retards.

[Forever]

Simple. He's not Obama.