SquiddyCracker
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#101

Originally Posted by Pctx: View Post
Really? He's more of a shitbag than Obama? This election is about one thing and one thing only: lesser of two evils and Romney wins handily when it comes to the economy which is what this presidential election is all about.
What about them social issues?
We don't really know whether or not he'd be better when it comes to the economy as it doesn't sound like he actually have a plan, but what we do know is that he will seriously curtail american freedoms.
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Originally Posted by Pctx: View Post

Really? He's more of a shitbag than Obama? This election is about one thing and one thing only: lesser of two evils and Romney wins handily when it comes to the economy which is what this presidential election is all about.
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#103

Originally Posted by Forever: View Post
You make yourself look ridiculous when you participate in discussion with memes/image macros.
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#104

Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
You make yourself look ridiculous when you participate in discussion with memes/image macros.
Depends on who you're conversing with.
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#105

Originally Posted by Pctx: View Post

Really? He's more of a shitbag than Obama? This election is about one thing and one thing only: lesser of two evils and Romney wins handily when it comes to the economy which is what this presidential election is all about.
Comparing Obama and Romney because they're both self serving is like comparing ice cubes and glaciers because they're both cold.
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#106

Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
You make yourself look ridiculous when you participate in discussion with memes/image macros.
What discussion?
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#107

Has anyone else prospered under Obama? I mean...I've worked pretty hard, taken on more responsibility, don't spend money like it's burning a hole in my pocket.
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#108

Originally Posted by Czigga: View Post
If we'd only tax the rich more, that'd fix all our problems!
It would solve a number of them, yes.
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#109

Why are Republicans so dumb?
Bay Maximus
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#110

Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
You make yourself look ridiculous when you participate in discussion with memes/image macros.
If you look at what he responded to, you will see he actually raised the level of discourse with his post.
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#111

Originally Posted by Omegasquash: View Post
Has anyone else prospered under Obama? I mean...I've worked pretty hard, taken on more responsibility, don't spend money like it's burning a hole in my pocket.

What type of question is "has anyone else prospered under Obama?" Plenty of people have. Unemployment is still too high, but your question is silly.
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#112

This guy isn't stupid, he's just a malicious arsehole.
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#113

now we see how many tea party members are racists when they vote this november......you know no new taxes pledge and all.
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#114

Originally Posted by Cyan: View Post
It would solve a number of them, yes.
Not really. I get what you are implying, but until we buck up and decide to tax nearly everyone more than the current rates (as well as closing loopholes that the upp10% use to exploit the tax system) we are still doing it wrong.
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#115

Originally Posted by Cubsfan23: View Post
now we see how many tea party members are racists when they vote this november......you know no new taxes pledge and all.
You forget that Rehnquist himself said that raising taxes on the poor and the middle class isnt raising taxes. So by Republogic they arent raising taxes.
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#116

Originally Posted by Veezy: View Post
What type of question is "has anyone else prospered under Obama?" Plenty of people have. Unemployment is still too high, but your question is silly.
The kind with a question mark at the end.

I ask because you don't hear about success at all. And unemployment is still high because many employers would prefer to work the shit out of their existing employees because they don't want to pay for another employee because that would take money out of their pocket...and I've witnessed it first hand. Most people will stay on a shit job when they have medical bills to pay and a family to support. It's why CEO's pay themselves ridiculous bonuses after cutting a shitload of staff...they want the money and generate the leanest force possible to do it.

Nice try, attacking the question though. Our "economy" is reliant on money being put in, not horded.
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#117

Originally Posted by Kusagari: View Post
Don't worry guys.

The wealth will trickle down.
Like urine.
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#118

Originally Posted by The Lamp: View Post
You make yourself look ridiculous when you participate in discussion with memes/image macros.
He just summarized what was being said is all.
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#119

Originally Posted by AlteredBeast: View Post
Not really. I get what you are implying, but until we buck up and decide to tax nearly everyone more than the current rates (as well as closing loopholes that the upp10% use to exploit the tax system) we are still doing it wrong.
Taxing the bottom 50% by 100% would net less than raising taxes 5% on the wealthiest 10%. The reason taxes aren't raised on the low end are the amounts being insignificant, and higher tax rates are a gigantic burden for the poor.
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#120

Originally Posted by mugurumakensei: View Post
Taxing the bottom 50% by 100% would net less than raising taxes 5% on the wealthiest 10%. The reason taxes aren't raised on the low end are the amounts being insignificant, and higher tax rates are a gigantic burden for the poor.
The bottom 50% will still largely be tax exempt. There need not be a divide of the bottom 50% versus the top 10%. The top 50% needs to have much higher taxes, period. Comments like that are what gets us in the problem of entitlement vs. need. Everybody who earns a wage needs to be paying more.
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#121

Originally Posted by SquiddyBiscuit: View Post
What about them social issues?
We don't really know whether or not he'd be better when it comes to the economy as it doesn't sound like he actually have a plan, but what we do know is that he will seriously curtail american freedoms.
What about them? To some people they are important but they aren't paramount to the country sustaining its lively hood. Is Romney's "non-plan" as you call it any better or worse than what Team Obama has done for the past 4 years? Honest question and what is Romney planning on doing to "curtail american freedoms"? That sounds like left-wing hyperbole.

Originally Posted by Dax01: View Post
So true.
Originally Posted by pigeon: View Post
Comparing Obama and Romney because they're both self serving is like comparing ice cubes and glaciers because they're both cold.
Are they?

Originally Posted by Forever: View Post
What discussion?
Ice cold man.... ice cold.

Also....
Originally Posted by AlteredBeast: View Post
whhhhaaaaa? How can you say such a thing when Romney hasn't said one concrete thing about his budget proposals? You are pulling things out of your ass. Romney has embarrassed himself continually throughout this election cycle by refusing to take any hardline positions outside of ones that cost him politically with independents. he is going to lose this election despite Obama's weaknesses on the economy because he is THAT inept.
Different opinions. Romney will most likely release his 3-point bullet plan post RNC convention and VP pick of which will move him further ahead of Obama. I'm sorry to say but every single time I see an Obama ad here in Oregon I literally say out loud "What a lying sack of crap..." because I can't view the guy as anything but a liar after the past 4 years of economic bliss, car company bailouts and the continued failed policies from our larger government. That coupled with the fact that I cannot agree with someone who is on their own agenda that differs with where this country came from. 'Make money? Pay more tax. Want to be a millionare? Fuck you, pay taxes bitch... its your fair share. Kill the coal industry? Why not, I'm not running the economy well, might as well do something.'

Obama can't really run on anything worth mentioning save maybe the affordable care act which if Romney wins, that shit goes down with executive order. I will say this though, if you're for higher taxes to increase government size, goods and services, I don't agree with that. If you're for higher taxes to pay down the deficit, maybe we can have a conversation. If you for investing in infrastructure.... look at all that TARP money ($1 Trillion to be exact) did with those shovel ready jobs. They were shovel ready.... shovel ready for the bullshit out of Washington D.C.
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#122

Originally Posted by AlteredBeast: View Post
The bottom 50% will still largely be tax exempt. There need not be a divide of the bottom 50% versus the top 10%. The top 50% needs to have much higher taxes, period.
Well, if they stay tax exempt, not everyones getting higher taxes. Still, till you get to the higher brackets, the increase should be minimal. A vast majority of the wealth even in the top 50 comes almost entirely from the top 20.
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#123

Originally Posted by BSsBrolly: View Post
As if this is surprising. We knew this was his plan all along, it's the same tax policy we've gotten from the right since Reagan.

I have the feeling most Republican voters will not know his "tax cuts" actually mean they're going to pay higher taxes...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1727909.html
It's not a surprise at all. They REALLY TRULY believe, even after it hasn't EVER WORKED, in the "trickle down" effect.
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#124

Good. I mean if anyone was going to ask me what's the issue with America I'd say that it's just way too hard out there for the rich.
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#125

A guy at work said the poor should be taxed to death. Literally they should be killed so that a small society of rich people can run things. This is true talk from a right wing person. The poor are thought of as lesser species that don't deserve to live.
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#126

Romney knows what he doin lol.
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#127

Originally Posted by Gr1mLock: View Post
You forget that Rehnquist himself said that raising taxes on the poor and the middle class isnt raising taxes. So by Republogic they arent raising taxes.
Hahaha what? That's impeccable logic. Crazy republicans.

Originally Posted by AgentP: View Post
A guy at work said the poor should be taxed to death. Literally they should be killed so that a small society of rich people can run things. This is true talk from a right wing person. The poor are thought of as lesser species that don't deserve to live.
Wow. You'd think a country as "united" as the US would care even a little bit about the welfare of their own people.
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#128

Itīs hilarious/scary how out of touch Romney is.
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#129

Originally Posted by Omegasquash: View Post
Has anyone else prospered under Obama? I mean...I've worked pretty hard, taken on more responsibility, don't spend money like it's burning a hole in my pocket.
Who is the 'else' implying here? (Curious, not attacking.)
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#130

Originally Posted by Pctx: View Post
Simple. He's not Obama.
El oh el
I honestly think "he's white" would've been a less awful answer.
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#131

Originally Posted by Speedymanic: View Post
Maybe I'm stupid, but I don't see the logic is giving wealthy people a tax cut and increasing the taxes of those who actually stimulate an economy through their spending, etc.

What am I not seeing/understanding?
That Romney's tax plan is not designed to improve the economy from the perspective of most people.
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#132

Originally Posted by Phoenician_Viking: View Post
Itīs hilarious/scary how out of touch Romney is.
Hes not. This is a setup... this man isn't this moronic. He can't be as successful as he is, without any common/social/ANY sense at all...

we are getting played. Its not even funny.
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#133

Originally Posted by Czigga: View Post
If we'd only tax the rich more, that'd fix all our problems!
It would sure help a lot more then taxing the middle class to death.
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#134

Originally Posted by Pctx: View Post
Really? He's more of a shitbag than Obama? This election is about one thing and one thing only: lesser of two evils and Romney wins handily when it comes to the economy which is what this presidential election is all about.
Okay. What specific policies or actions do you feel Romney offers as superior alternatives? I'm just interested in the implementations you find preferable.
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#135

Is this board the Barack H. Obama Official Propaganda forum?

Every other topic in the OT is "Romney sucks and is evil and stupid" this and "Romney sucks and is evil and stupid" that.

Give it a rest.

Then you whine about Fox News as a source for news and cite the Huffington Compost? Come on.
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#136

Originally Posted by Phoenician_Viking: View Post
Itīs hilarious/scary how out of touch Romney is.
No, he's in touch. Just not in touch with you.
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#137

Originally Posted by Edag Plata: View Post
Is this board the Barack H. Obama Official Propaganda forum?
If I were you, I'll be careful. lol neogaf hivemind crap doesn't fly with mods.
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#138

Originally Posted by SnakeswithLasers: View Post
Who is the 'else' implying here? (Curious, not attacking.)
Just asking the question of other people. I don't think there are enough success stories out there from actual people...but then again I haven't looked too hard for them, frankly. Feels like all we're talking about is gloom and doom, when things have actually been looking up.
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#139

Originally Posted by Opiate: View Post
Okay. What specific policies or actions do you feel Romney offers as superior alternatives? I'm just interested in the implementations you find preferable.
Romney has a certain irresistible je ne sais quoi that stems from him not being named Barack Obama
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#140

Originally Posted by Zefah: View Post
What does this even mean?
You can't be that new to the internet...
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#141

Originally Posted by Edag Plata: View Post
Is this board the Barack H. Obama Official Propaganda forum?

Every other topic in the OT is "Romney sucks and is evil and stupid" this and "Romney sucks and is evil and stupid" that.

Give it a rest.

Then you whine about Fox News as a source for news and cite the Huffington Compost? Come on.
Are you five?
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Originally Posted by commedieu: View Post
Hes not. This is a setup... this man isn't this moronic. He can't be as successful as he is, without any common/social/ANY sense at all...

we are getting played. Its not even funny.
So your saying he's a democratic plant? That he's in this for trolling?



That's kinda crazy.
BSsBrolly
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#143

Originally Posted by Pctx: View Post
What about them? To some people they are important but they aren't paramount to the country sustaining its lively hood. Is Romney's "non-plan" as you call it any better or worse than what Team Obama has done for the past 4 years? Honest question and what is Romney planning on doing to "curtail american freedoms"? That sounds like left-wing hyperbole.
Obama hasn't been able to do what is needed because we have a crazy, obstructionist Republican congress. They've blocked Obama's jobs bills in an attempt to make him a one term President. He wanted to let the tax cuts expire for the rich 2 years ago, but no congress wasn't having that. So he tried to close loop holes so the rich couldn't dodge taxes. They wouldn't have any of that either. He settled for a complete extension of the Bush tax cuts.
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#144

Originally Posted by Edag Plata: View Post
Is this board the Barack H. Obama Official Propaganda forum?

Every other topic in the OT is "Romney sucks and is evil and stupid" this and "Romney sucks and is evil and stupid" that.

Give it a rest.

Then you whine about Fox News as a source for news and cite the Huffington Compost? Come on.
There is plenty of criticism of Obama to be found on these boards. And people in this thread aren't praising Obama so much as they're condemning really, really stupid ideas. Unless, of course, you think lowering taxes on the rich would somehow be beneficial for society. I would love to hear the reasoning behind that.
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#145

Originally Posted by GungHo: View Post
No, he's in touch. Just not in touch with you.
Actually he is not in touch with reality. So yeah, he is not in touch with me.
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#146

Originally Posted by AlteredBeast: View Post
Not really. I get what you are implying...
That filthy commie ev has infiltrated my thinking. :P
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#147

Originally Posted by Edag Plata: View Post
Then you whine about Fox News as a source for news and cite the Huffington Compost? Come on.
HuffPost has an agenda but cites its sources; if anything it's criticized for not producing enough material of its own. Not at all comparable to Fox News. False equivalencies ahoy.
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#148

Originally Posted by Opiate: View Post
Okay. What specific policies or actions do you feel Romney offers as superior alternatives? I'm just interested in the implementations you find preferable.
American Exceptionalism for starters as it values the individual instead of the collective. You want a stark contrast between candidates, do some research on this area. Also, any tax increase on any class in America cannot be afforded as the priority is to get GDP up and people spending. The government needs money to run, I get that, but there also needs to move towards curtailing services and move those towards states responsibilities. I would imagine that is another good contrast between Romney and Obama. Care for me to go on?
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#149

what's the point of allowing people and even corporations to earn so much money if your society is not benefiting from their 'productivity'?
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Originally Posted by Pctx: View Post
American Exceptionalism for starters as it values the individual instead of the collective. You want a stark contrast between candidates, do some research on this area. Also, any tax increase on any class in America cannot be afforded as the priority is to get GDP up and people spending. The government needs money to run, I get that, but there also needs to move towards curtailing services and move those towards states responsibilities. I would imagine that is another good contrast between Romney and Obama. Care for me to go on?
Please do so. I got nothing but mindless mumbo jumbo from your post. American Exceptionalism my ass.