Khalifa Jayy
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(08-01-2012, 10:26 PM)

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GAF, I think my girl and I are breaking up today. #1

:/

Sorry, I don't know where to go with this... my girl and I argued Sunday night about religion and whether our kids would go to her church or mine if we each continued with our respective beliefs (I'm Christian she's Catholic).

Then Monday morning her little brother ran away to their dad's house (her parents are split) because he argued with his mom. She went to pick him up and her mom got pissed at her for that, so she kicked them both out. That same day her punk ass ex bf sent her a bouquet of tulips (her favorite) and a card saying he still loved her and all kinds of shit.

She told me she had some feelings rush back into her head and she felt horrible for it... but it doesn't change the fact.

Today we're gonna "talk." I'm pretty sure you all know what is gonna happen. Oh well, it was good while it lasted. We get along so damn well. We have amazing sex. We are insanely compatible and see a lot of things in life similarly... but I guess its not gonna work out. She says I am the perfect man for her and she's constantly reminding me that she wants to marry me, but then this happened...kinda sucks to be honest.

Sorry for rambling. You guys are my closest friends :'(
Lamel
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(08-01-2012, 10:28 PM)

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Ah the religion debates, unfortunate to see a relationship come to an end because of that.

But honestly I think you're jumping a little ahead of yourself.
BeautifulMemory
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(08-01-2012, 10:29 PM)

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Yea best to wait until things cool down, for both you and her
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The answer is to not bring the kids up with either sect.
Khalifa Jayy
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(08-01-2012, 10:30 PM)

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Originally Posted by Saadster: View Post
Ah the religion debates, unfortunate to see a relationship come to an end because of that.

But honestly I think you're jumping a little ahead of yourself.
I don't know man... we were laying in bed that night and she was telling me she doesn't even have even the slightest impulse to be open minded about it. I'm certainly not converting back to Catholicism, so its gonna be tough. I told her I didn't expect her to convert, but I wouldn't mind if she did at some point.
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realx. if you love this girl then state your case for why you belong together. otherwise tell her to grow some sense and to break contact with the ex or you'll break him.
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(08-01-2012, 10:30 PM)

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So you don't actually have children right, you're arguing over hypothetical children?
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I don't really see where you are getting the whole break-up vibe. Couples need to have a talk once in awhile.

But if you are already to go into the discussion defeated, then the relationship is already over.

Originally Posted by Khalifa Jayy: View Post
I don't know man... we were laying in bed that night and she was telling me she doesn't even have even the slightest impulse to be open minded about it. I'm certainly not converting back to Catholicism, so its gonna be tough. I told her I didn't expect her to convert, but I wouldn't mind if she did at some point.
These hypotheticals are stupid as shit. How old are you both?
soepje
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'amazing sex' between unmarried christians and catholics? Is that even possible?
SquiddyCracker
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(08-01-2012, 10:31 PM)
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I really don't get why there'd be a big religious conflict between the two of you when you are both sinning big time :p

Seriously though, it sounds like the two of you are really compatible so it would be quite strange for her to break up with you so suddenly. Then again, she might want want to explore those feelings she have for her ex-boyfriend and well, that kinda sucks, but what can you do about it.

Good luck with you, whatever this talk is about.
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(08-01-2012, 10:31 PM)

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Quote:
(I'm Christian she's Catholic).
Shitstorm incoming.
JeTmAn81
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Just to be clear, you don't already have kids, right? You're disagreeing about your future children. While it's important to agree on the fundamentals of raising kids, with you being "Christian", and her being "Catholic" your beliefs should be close enough that it shouldn't cause that many problems no matter which church you go to. Also, if you're really that devout in your beliefs, you'd better knock off the premarital sex and move to separate locations if you're living together, because that's a big no-no as well. Take things from there.
The Mana Legend
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My fiance is a Christian who goes to church and I am an Apatheist, who used to be a Catholic.

One thing you guys need to realize about Christian vs. Catholic is, really, no matter what church you go to they are teaching a lot of the same stuff, just in different ways. So it really shouldn't matter at all.
shira
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(08-01-2012, 10:33 PM)
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one of you convert. so easy
Miizy F Baby
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The ex sent her flowers saying he still had feelings for her...how long has this relationship of yours with her even been going?
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With all due respect, OP, I think you both must be really intense people to get upset over the relatively negligible differences between Cathocalism and what you call Christianity. From an outsider's point of view, it's like arguing the merits of 7UP and Sprite.

Are either of you of the belief that your child would, I don't know, go to hell or something if they were raised under the other faith?
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I feel bad for the hypothetical kids
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Originally Posted by shira: View Post
one of you convert. so easy
Or just continue to fuck and forget about the whole issue until it is actually relevant.
Alligatorjandro
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(08-01-2012, 10:34 PM)

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Dont stay with someone who has feelings for another.
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(08-01-2012, 10:35 PM)

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Originally Posted by The Mana Legend: View Post
My fiance is a Christian who goes to church and I am an Apatheist, who used to be a Catholic.

One thing you guys need to realize about Christian vs. Catholic is, really, no matter what church you go to they are teaching a lot of the same stuff, just in different ways. So it really shouldn't matter at all.
They're(Catholic) just alot more strict about it imo.
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Sorry to hear about your distress, OP. I hope things work out for you.

Originally Posted by Khalifa Jayy: View Post
my girl and I argued Sunday night about religion and whether our kids would go to her church or mine if we each continued with our respective beliefs (I'm Christian she's Catholic).
It amazes me how we can be so similar yet so different over such things. Are you two really that strict about religion? I'd just raise them to be agnostic, but I can see how that might not be an option in your case.

Originally Posted by Khalifa Jayy: View Post
We have amazing sex.
On the other hand, since she doesn't hold the Catholic doctrine to that high regard, then there may be hope yet.
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Originally Posted by Alligatorjandro: View Post
Dont stay with someone who has feelings for another.
If only it was that cut and dry.

E: Jesus, gaf. It ain't even about the religion.
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Jeez man sorry to hear, but if she really loves you she will listen to what you have to say and work with you to make sure it works. If she isnt able to do that and if you really love her then you have to let her go even though that is bullshit :(
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Originally Posted by Rentahamster: View Post
Are you two really that strict about religion?
Obviously not if they are having sex outside of marriage.
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Originally Posted by Khalifa Jayy: View Post
I don't know man... we were laying in bed that night and she was telling me she doesn't even have even the slightest impulse to be open minded about it. I'm certainly not converting back to Catholicism, so its gonna be tough. I told her I didn't expect her to convert, but I wouldn't mind if she did at some point.
Move on, sounds like neither of you will budge when it comes to religion.
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Originally Posted by Khalifa Jayy: View Post
:/
(I'm Christian she's Catholic).
lol
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Let the child decide. nothing more simple than that surely?

when they are old enough to understand sit them down and explain each of your beliefs and that they can choose not to believe if they want.
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IMO, if she holds the religion of her future children to such high regard while actively sinning in her own life, it sounds like she's just looking for an argument and an excuse to break up with you.
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Originally Posted by Miri: View Post
If only it was that cut and dry.

E: Jesus, gaf. It ain't even about the religion.
yeah i know
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Originally Posted by xxracerxx: View Post
Obviously not if they are having sex outside of marriage.
Yep. Which leads me to think that the underlying reason for the conflict isn't really religion in and of itself, but perhaps something else.
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Go shove a tulip up that punkasses ass.
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coin toss
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You guys have to try. Maybe you two would feel better if you parted ways but you have to think about the hypothetical kids in this situation.
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You're arguing over imaginary shit?

That's like my wife and I divorcing if she said Superman could take Batman (he can't, but whatever).
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Originally Posted by Deified Data: View Post
IMO, if she holds the religion of her future children to such high regard while actively sinning in her own life, it sounds like she's just looking for an argument and an excuse to break up with you.
Not necessarily. There is an inclusiveness and sense of community that comes with religion/church that is severely lacking in secular circles.
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You two could make it work. Couples go through rough patches all the time. In your OP, I'm really not seeing a reason why you two would break up. It seems like she's into you, and the whole religion thing can be solved with compromise and conversation.
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She should at least think about becoming a Christian. Wait...
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Honestly though I do think it's amazing that you're managing to break up with someone over 100% made up things.
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Originally Posted by xxracerxx: View Post
Or just continue to fuck and forget about the whole issue until it is actually relevant.
Well since she's serious about her Catholicism she can't be on the pill, so I'd say the issue is relevant about 3 days a month
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Originally Posted by EmCeeGramr: View Post
Shitstorm incoming.
if i had had a liquid in my mouth i would have done a spit-take upon reading this

infinite lols
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Originally Posted by Fritz: View Post
She should at least think about becoming a Christian. Wait...
Seriously. Out of all the religions to have breaks up about, it's Christianity and a Christian denomination.
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Originally Posted by Devolution: View Post
Not necessarily. There is an inclusiveness and sense of community that comes with religion/church that is severely lacking in secular circles.
Community can be found anywhere, in my experience.
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amazing sex before marriage = against the catholic church

you guys probably use condoms or birth control too = against the catholic church

she's clearly very committed to her catholicism.
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Waiting on the OP for updates.
Az987
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Did she tell you you're going to hell?

Don't catholics think everyone who isn't catholic go to hell?
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Wait what, since when are catholics not christians?
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And when the OP says "Christian," which denomination does he mean by that?
Devolution
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Originally Posted by Deified Data: View Post
Community can be found anywhere, in my experience.
This isn't really much of a response even though I agree. The community and emotional support of a church is not really paralleled in secular situations except maybe clubs and very close knit groups of friends. But there is rarely a central meeting place, fundraisers, events and all kinds of inclusive activities for such a large group and their children.


Originally Posted by glow: View Post
amazing sex before marriage = against the catholic church

you guys probably use condoms or birth control too = against the catholic church

she's clearly very committed to her catholicism.
This is how plenty of Catholic women operate and it's not really fair. They might agree with some tenets but not particularly like the Roman Catholic Church's stances on various subject matter.
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Originally Posted by Borgnine: View Post
Honestly though I do think it's amazing that you're managing to break up with someone over 100% made up things.
You mean the kids right?

Just take the kids to both churches, switch between both every week. When they're old enough they can make up their own mind I guess.
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"I'm Christian she's Catholic"

I do not understand that world. I have no help to give.