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PS3 CFW & Homebrew: Scene Revived! -- morality arguments elsewhere #1



PS3 CFW & Homebrew is available on any PS3 with firmware 3.55 or lower (higher firmware consoles can perform a hardware downgrade, but this is beyond the scope of the thread).

Originally Posted by charlequin:

As I mentioned in the previous update thread, this thread will be for discussion of and assistance with the use of homebrew on the PS3 system, within the rules of NeoGAF. This means that:
  • As always, advocacy of piracy, linking to pirated materials, providing advice for or guides on committing piracy, or otherwise engaging in inappropriate behavior with regard to piracy will result in moderator action.
  • Engaging in complaining about this thread being allowed to exist, accusing posters in this thread of piracy, attempting to start debates about piracy or the ethics of homebrew, or otherwise trying to grind an axe for one's personal beliefs regarding homebrew legitimacy will also result in moderator action.

I and other moderators will be reading this thread. We will certainly extend posters the benefit of the doubt, but these rules will be enforced to keep conversation here productive. Please try to keep things productive and respectful in here. Thanks!
  • November 4th 2012 - Rogero 4.30 CFW 1.02 is released! Is safe! Upgrade from 3.55 or Upgrade from Rogero 4.21
  • October 23rd 2012 - 4.21 CFW released.
  • September 11th 2012 - PSN access is back with FuckPSN 0.9
  • August 29th 2012 - Showtime 4.0 Released..
  • August 28th 2012 - Lots of fixes released by N0DRM.
  • August 15th 2012 - Duplex announces they have cracked the True Blue DRM and are releasing many fixes!!
  • August 1st 2012 - 3.60 Keys Released. Many newer games now work including Dark Souls, Resistance 3 and Portal 2.





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Reserved
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PS3 scene is the worst Ive seen.
Why would you do that?
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Ah, the title gave me hope that a new exploit was found for the current firmware. :(

I am a little worried about the PS3 homebrew scene. Comparing to the Wii, or even the DS or PSP, it doesn't seem to have nearly as much homebrew, and it doesn't seem like the interest is there to make it so. I could be wrong though... I haven't checked in some time.

That said, I do eagerly await it so I can play a translated Tales of Vesperia on the PS3 in the future. I might decide to do the hardware downgrade route, as it doesn't seem that hard or expensive.
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If Sony bans PSN access, is it a system or account block?
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Originally Posted by Why would you do that?: View Post
Also, I was a little worried about the PS3 homebrew scene. Compared to the Wii, at a quick glance, it doesn't seem to have nearly as much homebrew, and it doesn't seem like the interest is there to make it so. I could be wrong though... I haven't checked in some time.
In terms of amount and some of the cool experimentation on Wii, the PS3 is lacking. But what is there is pretty awesome. The emulators work great and Showtime far surpasses any console media solution except XBMC.

Originally Posted by DR2K: View Post
If Sony bans PSN access, is it a system or account block?
They have never banned anyone for using CFW.
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I really thought there was some breakthrough on the emulation scene, and I even clicked the links above thinking they would take me to some kind of news.

I even have the PS3 USB adapters on my Quasicade arcade cabinet. http://www.arcadegamesuperstore.com/quasicade_pro.htm

But I guess my modded Xbox1 is still my go-to machine for pure emulation entertainment in my cabinet.
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If I understand this correct there might be a chance to downgrade at some point with these keys, right? I upgraded my PS3 for Journey because the scene was not all that active but I do miss running everything from my HD when I actually do play something (which isn't often) and had my fair share of fun with emulators.

It is some ancient 60GIG launch model. Thought I did read that newer models would never be able to downgrade (slims) but older ones were? This was months ago though.
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Originally Posted by BigDug13: View Post
I really thought there was some breakthrough on the emulation scene, and I even clicked the links above thinking they would take me to some kind of news.

I even have the PS3 USB adapters on my Quasicade arcade cabinet. http://www.arcadegamesuperstore.com/quasicade_pro.htm

But I guess my modded Xbox1 is still my go-to machine for pure emulation entertainment in my cabinet.
Tell me about it, Ive browsed a good year checking ps3 scene websites daily for emulation news, emulation pretty much stagnated around holiday 2010 when everything from Atari 2600 to GBA were available, but still no DC,(proper) PSX or N64 emus.
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Aww. 3.55 and lower still?
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Originally Posted by Carecrow: View Post
If I understand this correct there might be a chance to downgrade at some point with these keys, right? I upgraded my PS3 for Journey because the scene was not all that active but I do miss running everything from my HD when I actually do play something and had my fair share of fun with emulators.

It is some ancient 60GIG launch model. Thought I did read that newer models would never be able to downgrade (slims) but older ones were? This was months ago though.
I wouldn't get your hopes up for a software downgrade. The new keys are the public keys used to decrypt files. I believe you would need the private keys to make a firmware you could downgrade to.

Originally Posted by plainr_: View Post
Aww. 3.55 and lower still?
Yes.
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Originally Posted by N.A: View Post
I wouldn't get your hopes up for a software downgrade. The new keys are the public keys used to decrypt files. I believe you would need the private keys make a firmware you could downgrade to.
Alright, thanks for the fast answer. :(
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That sexy new thread smell.

I'm going to have to try RetroArch today.
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This...
http://www.pshomebrew.net/wiki/PSMAM...atibility_List
...is awesome, sooo many classics :o

I've never broken a single game from early 80's uptil now so backups don't interest me. But I want Mame. And I have a phat 60GB laying around. My experience with emulators so far has always been quite bad though (except Wii VC), so how well does games run? I want perfect emulation, no stuttering what so ever unless it's in the original too.

Can I use a regular PS3 arcade stick with Mame?
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Originally Posted by Fredrik: View Post
Can I use a regular PS3 arcade stick with Mame?
Why yes you can. I do.
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Oh god I so want something like Showtime/XBMC as an official Sony app. I mean their blu-ray players support subtitles and mkv why dont they just patch it in :(

I dont have CFW on mine but always happy to see the scene alive!
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Originally Posted by ReXXXSoprano: View Post
Why yes you can. I do.
Awesome! How well does the games run on the Mame emulator?
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Originally Posted by Fredrik: View Post
Awesome! How well does the games run on the Mame emulator?
It's a rather old version of MAME but it works great. FBA is better if it supports the game you want though (Most 2D Fighters and Shmups work with FBA)
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It has been long time for PS3 scene revived again.

How to take screenshot of any game with 3.55 custom firmware installed ?
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Originally Posted by Why would you do that?: View Post
I am a little worried about the PS3 homebrew scene. Comparing to the Wii, or even the DS or PSP, it doesn't seem to have nearly as much homebrew, and it doesn't seem like the interest is there to make it so. I could be wrong though... I haven't checked in some time.
That happens when a company goes and sues any one that is remotely related to the scene. Many homebrewers halted work on their projects out of fear that they would be targeted next. Even though the charges would have likely been thrown out, even challenging charges can be extremely costly. Gotta love American law.
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Originally Posted by chris0701: View Post
It has been long time for PS3 scene revived again.

How to take screenshot of any game with 3.55 custom firmware installed ?
Working on a guide for this atm, should be finished in an hour.
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Cool cool!
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Haha, I'm an idiot. I spent a good 5-10 minutes trying to understand why RDR GoTY wasn't working with the 3.60 release of ebootfix, only to realise that I'd misread the required firmware -- 3.66, not 3.56.
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Here is the promised guide for taking screenshots in any game: http://www.pshomebrew.net/wiki/How_t...ts_in_any_Game

Here's one I just took in Catherine:
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Taken from the other thread:

Originally Posted by endlessflood: View Post
3.41 still supports OtherOS I think.
OtherOS was removed in firmware 3.21. OtherOS++ works for both 3.41 and 3.55 as far as i know. I havnt heard any advantages in this area regarding 3.41 VS 3.55.
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I've been meaning to ask this for awhile now.

How does swapping HDD's work when you have CFW?
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Originally Posted by ReXXXSoprano: View Post
I've been meaning to ask this for awhile now.

How does swapping HDD's work when you have CFW?
The same as OFW. Though you can backup your licences with ReactPSN as you won't be able to reactivate games through PSN.
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A few new fixes are out: Jack & Daxter Trilogy, MGS HD Collection (Peace Walker doesn't work), Rage, Need for Speed: The Run & Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Oh, also PS2 backwards compatibility just got released for all PS3 on 3.55 or less. This is the buggy 2.60 version and only a few games work. Hopefully once newer keys are released there will be a way to modify PS2 classics to use the newer versions of the emulators.
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Originally Posted by N.A: View Post
A few new fixes are out: Jack & Daxter Trilogy, MGS HD Collection (Peace Walker doesn't work), Rage, Need for Speed: The Run & Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Oh, also PS2 backwards compatibility just got released for all PS3 on 3.55 or less. This is the buggy 2.60 version and only a few games work. Hopefully once newer keys are released there will be a way to modify PS2 classics to use the newer versions of the emulators.
So these fixes being released, are they patched eboots to run on DEX consoles, or are they re-encrypted eboots to work with CFW 3.55?

Also is there a list somewhere showing which post 3.55 games have since been patched to work?
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This maybe the place to ask this.

A friend of mine called me today in a panic, because her son foolishly tried to Jail break her PS3. Now her PS3 is stuck in some sort of "Demo" mode. I told her I'd go over tomorrow to see if anything can be done.

Any suggestions as to how to get her back to OG firm ware?
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Originally Posted by N.A: View Post
A few new fixes are out: Jack & Daxter Trilogy, MGS HD Collection (Peace Walker doesn't work), Rage, Need for Speed: The Run & Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning

Oh, also PS2 backwards compatibility just got released for all PS3 on 3.55 or less. This is the buggy 2.60 version and only a few games work. Hopefully once newer keys are released there will be a way to modify PS2 classics to use the newer versions of the emulators.
How does the PS2 BC work?
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Wow PS2 support for non-first gen PS3's... Awesome news.

I hear the PSP support is less buggy then that PS2 backwards compatibility. Was PSP support already available for 3.55 users besides the Multiman dongle?


Note: Does it piss anyone else off that there wasn't select backwards compatibility like the Xbox360, that Sony could of released this whole time. The had this at there fingers.. UHG
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Originally Posted by endlessflood: View Post
So these fixes being released, are they patched eboots to run on DEX consoles, or are they re-encrypted eboots to work with CFW 3.55?

Also is there a list somewhere showing which post 3.55 games have since been patched to work?
Re-encrypted eboots to work on 3.55. Compatibility list here: http://www.pshomebrew.net/wiki/PS3_B...atibility_List

Originally Posted by googleplex: View Post
This maybe the place to ask this.

A friend of mine called me today in a panic, because her son foolishly tried to Jail break her PS3. Now her PS3 is stuck in some sort of "Demo" mode. I told her I'd go over tomorrow to see if anything can be done.

Any suggestions as to how to get her back to OG firm ware?
If the son got into factory service mode on a firmware higher than 3.55 there is no way back :( If it's lower you'll have to google how to make the jig to return it.

Originally Posted by TurkishEmperor: View Post
How does the PS2 BC work?
Sony have included a software emulator in FW since 2.60, but you can't normally access it. This patches the FW to allow you to use it.

Originally Posted by GoofsterStud: View Post
Wow PS2 support for non-first gen PS3's... Awesome news.

I hear the PSP support is less buggy then that PS2 backwards compatibility. Was PSP support already available for 3.55 users besides the Multiman dongle?


Note: Does it piss anyone else off that there wasn't select backwards compatibility like the Xbox360, that Sony could of released this whole time. The had this at there fingers.. UHG
It's almost certain the emulator Sony is using for PS2 classics on PSN is compatible with many more games. Hopefully someone can hack it like the PSX emulator on PSP.
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Does it use the hardware if it is a BC PS3? Or just the emulator files? Id love to be able to get some of my beta versions working on the PS3.

Edit : Nevermind, requires service mode = too much work for now.
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Originally Posted by Borman: View Post
Does it use the hardware if it is a BC PS3? Or just the emulator files? Id love to be able to get some of my beta versions working on the PS3.
I'm not sure what you mean. This will allow systems without PS2 hardware to play PS2 games through pure software emulation. Granted this is an old emulation model. :-)

Get all the details here;
http://www.ps3devwiki.com/wiki/Emula...ulator_working
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Originally Posted by GoofsterStud: View Post
I'm not sure what you mean. This will allow systems without PS2 hardware to play PS2 games through pure software emulation. Granted this is an old emulation model. :-)
My point was, that I believe the PS3 only plays retail disk PS2 games currently. I was hoping DVD-rs would run, since that is what my beta disks come on :P

Edit : PS, the screenshot guide shows no text.
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Originally Posted by Borman: View Post
My point was, that I believe the PS3 only plays retail disk PS2 games currently. I was hoping DVD-rs would run, since that is what my beta disks come on :P
That is correct on any game that couldn't be fully installed on the HDD, so all but like 5 games. :-)
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Originally Posted by GoofsterStud: View Post
That is correct on any game that couldn't be fully installed on the HDD, so all but like 5 games. :-)
Will have to go and check quick...
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I meant to say only 5 games could be installed on the HDD. :-)

I only know because I installed Final Fantasy XI on the HDD and was able to boot it without the disc again.
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Ah okay, I thought so, since DVD-rs still don't work for PS2 games. Such a shame really, I don't see why they wouldn't.
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I so want to buy Tales of Graces F but wont support true blue dongle.
Any update on this being available to be played with new keys now available?
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I still don't get why they don't use the firmware capabilities to screenshot every game, regularly, in every game.
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Originally Posted by wiggleb0t: View Post
I so want to buy Tales of Graces F but wont support true blue dongle.
Any update on this being available to be played with new keys now available?
There is a 99% complete patch for the JP version that inserts the English text/movies.

Originally Posted by Borman: View Post
Edit : PS, the screenshot guide shows no text.
Shows fine for me.
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Originally Posted by N.A: View Post
There is a 99% complete patch for the JP version that inserts the English text/movies.



Shows fine for me.
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So what has changed?
Don't the keys just mean you can play newer games?
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Originally Posted by Raonak: View Post
So what has changed?
Don't the keys just mean you can play newer games?
And decrypt newer firmware versions increasing the chance for new CFW.

Originally Posted by Borman:
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Can you try it now? It seems you were seeing an old version of the site.
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Originally Posted by N.A: View Post
In terms of amount and some of the cool experimentation on Wii, the PS3 is lacking. But what is there is pretty awesome. The emulators work great and Showtime far surpasses any console media solution except XBMC.



They have never banned anyone for using CFW.
Wait, so you can have CFW, play on PSN, and it's not a risk? Or is one or more parts of that wrong?

I only have the one PS3, so losing PSN access is a dealbreaker.
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Originally Posted by SoulUnison: View Post
Wait, so you can have CFW, play on PSN, and it's not a risk? Or is one or more parts of that wrong?

I only have the one PS3, so losing PSN access is a dealbreaker.
You can't access PSN at this time. Though any time it has been available they have never banned anyone and have not banned people who return to OFW.
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Originally Posted by N.A: View Post
And decrypt newer firmware versions increasing the chance for new CFW.
I wonder how big chance there is for this. It was possible to decrypt OFW 3.56 with the 3.55 keys (those keys didnt change before OFW 3.60), but no one ever made CFW 3.56. I know about that DH 3.56 JFW thing, but that doesnt have the same possibilities as CFW 3.55, as far as i know at least.

If no one managed to make CFW 3.56, i wonder what the chances are for that someone will manage to make CFW 3.60+.

EDIT: I know that OFW 3.56 didnt really bring anything new, so in that sense there isnt much that was missed out on. But if it was easy, i'm sure that someone would have done it regardless, just to do it for fun if nothing else.
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Originally Posted by test_account: View Post
I wonder how big chance there is for this. It was possible to decrypt OFW 3.56 with the 3.55 keys (those keys didnt change before OFW 3.60), but no one ever made CFW 3.56. I know about that DH 3.56 JFW thing, but that doesnt have the same possibilities as CFW 3.55, as far as i know at least.

If no one managed to make CFW 3.56, i wonder what the chances are for that someone will manage to make CFW 3.60+.

EDIT: I know that OFW 3.56 didnt really bring anything new, so in that sense there isnt much that was missed out on. But if it was easy, i'm sure that someone would have done it regardless, just to do it for fun if nothing else.
Well from what I've heard is that if you've found the 3.60 keys you should be able to make a lv0 exploit. But I'm not very knowledgeable on these things.