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BramVD · (08-02-2012, 05:49 PM)

So when I traded in my old 3DS for an XL I was not too bothered with the system transfer but would have liked it. The person behind the counter at GAME insisted that I needed online Wifi to do the transfer. I didn't reply but only realised afterwards you just needed local Wifi... I hate retail stores.

So I did not do the transfer and found out later that my club account, which has a history of all my purchased games CANNOT be used to redownload my purchased games. Oh no!

They just make you rebuy the games should you want them on your new system.

Really Nintendo? My god...

catabarez · (08-02-2012, 05:50 PM)

Umm...

Isn't this common knowledge on GAF?

Bluemercury · (08-02-2012, 05:50 PM)

yeah, you should have informed yourself, for that reason alone i didnt buy the XL....yet...

Kazerei · (08-02-2012, 05:51 PM)

It's your own fault man.

KillerTravis · (08-02-2012, 05:51 PM)

He told you to do the transfer... And you declined? No account is totally an issue but that was pretty dumb on your part.

Jrpgfanatic · (08-02-2012, 05:51 PM)

Yep, the joy of Nintendo not adopting a proper account system. Word on the street is the Wii U will fix that, but who knows if the 3DS and Wii purchases will somehow be granfathered into that program or not.

fallagin · (08-02-2012, 05:51 PM)

Well that's an interesting policy.

PhoReal · (08-02-2012, 05:51 PM)

Come on.

Wario64 · (08-02-2012, 05:52 PM)

So what's the issue? You love Nintendo don't you? They are losing money after all.

Skiesofwonder · (08-02-2012, 05:52 PM)

That's what the transfer is for....

Unified accounts aren't coming until WiiU release (no idea if they will include/work on your 3DS).

Wrestlemania · (08-02-2012, 05:52 PM)

Originally Posted by BramVD:

So when I traded in my old 3DS for an XL I was not too bothered with the system transfer but would have liked it. The person behind the counter at GAME insisted that I needed online Wifi to do the transfer. I didn't reply but only realised afterwards you just needed local Wifi... I hate retail stores.

The guy was right - you need wifi.

MarkusRJR · (08-02-2012, 05:52 PM)

You should have learned about this before you traded it in and bought a new XL. He even told you to transfer and you declined. This is your fault. Simple as that. It's pretty common knowledge around NeoGAF. It's stupid and all but you have to deal with it until Nintendo puts out accounts.

Murrah · (08-02-2012, 05:52 PM)

A-avatar quote...?

whitehawk · (08-02-2012, 05:52 PM)

This is your fault, but it's doesn't excuse Nintendo's poor online either.

Count Dookkake · (08-02-2012, 05:53 PM)

Thread title is wrong.

Also, lol.

Merovin · (08-02-2012, 05:53 PM)

Originally Posted by KillerTravis:

He told you to do the transfer... And you declined? No account is totally an issue but that was pretty dumb on your part.

Sorry but, this.

Spanish Wrath · (08-02-2012, 05:53 PM)

I thought this was known by almost everyone, but it really sucks man.

Nintendo manages digital content by machines, not users.

Teknoman · (08-02-2012, 05:53 PM)

Originally Posted by BramVD:

So when I traded in my old 3DS for an XL I was not too bothered with the system transfer but would have liked it. The person behind the counter at GAME insisted that I needed online Wifi to do the transfer. I didn't reply but only realised afterwards you just needed local Wifi... I hate retail stores.

So I did not do the transfer and found out later that my club account, which has a history of all my purchased games CANNOT be used to redownload my purchased games. Oh no!

They just make you rebuy the games should you want them on your new system.

Really Nintendo? My god...

Well you do need online wi-fi to do the transfer, as well as both systems.

Effect · 05:56 PM

Go back to the store, if it's not to late, and see if they're willing to track down the unit you traded to them and will let you do the transfer.

Note to everyone. It's not worth it to trade in your system first. By the XL, transfer when you're at home and then sell it or trade it. Only trade it for the system if they will provide you the ability to do the transfer in store. Did not realize online wifi was needed.

Zeer0id · (08-02-2012, 05:54 PM)

ok

SovanJedi · (08-02-2012, 05:54 PM)

Well this has been known for months and the guy warned you before trading in, so, yeah...

LiK · (08-02-2012, 05:54 PM)

Originally Posted by BramVD:

So when I traded in my old 3DS for an XL I was not too bothered with the system transfer but would have liked it. The person behind the counter at GAME insisted that I needed online Wifi to do the transfer. I didn't reply but only realised afterwards you just needed local Wifi... I hate retail stores.

So I did not do the transfer and found out later that my club account, which has a history of all my purchased games CANNOT be used to redownload my purchased games. Oh no!

They just make you rebuy the games should you want them on your new system.

Really Nintendo? My god...

your own fault.

Ushojax · (08-02-2012, 05:54 PM)

The guy told you to do the transfer and you didn't. Come on.

Dead Man Typing · (08-02-2012, 05:54 PM)

Originally Posted by BramVD:

So when I traded in my old 3DS for an XL I was not too bothered with the system transfer but would have liked it. The person behind the counter at GAME insisted that I needed online Wifi to do the transfer. I didn't reply but only realised afterwards you just needed local Wifi... I hate retail stores.

So I did not do the transfer and found out later that my club account, which has a history of all my purchased games CANNOT be used to redownload my purchased games. Oh no!

They just make you rebuy the games should you want them on your new system.

Really Nintendo? My god...

Both consoles need to be connected online to the Nintendo store to be able to do the system transfer.

Shiggy · (08-02-2012, 05:54 PM)

Originally Posted by whitehawk:

This is your fault, but it's doesn't excuse Nintendo's poor online either.

This.

Meatvillain · (08-02-2012, 05:54 PM)

I'm confused, you can't transfer purchases from the 3DS to the XL with system transfer? Or is it that if you don't have wifi you're left without any options? (edit: oh, I see, it's the latter) It does indeed suck that Nintendo are still behind with this sort of thing, hopefully it gets better with the WiiU and future 3DS firmware updates, or something.

Vane_MagicCity · 06:01 PM

You should have done the transfer but there is no excuse for Nintendo NOT having a proper account system. What's even worse is that they have the records of what you bought but refuse to let you re-download your games for fear that you might have your games on two 3DS's at once. Keep in mind that you can do that with any combination of two PS3's, PSP's or Vita's depending only on game compatibility.

On second thought, I think you have to be online to transfer which means that if the store didn't have internet, then you couldn't have made the transfer anyway. When I traded in my DSi for a 3DS, the guy formatted it right in front of me.

Wario64 · (08-02-2012, 05:55 PM)

Ushojax · (08-02-2012, 05:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Meatvillain:

I'm confused, you can't transfer purchases from the 3DS to the XL with system transfer?

You can transfer all your content and licences to another system. You just need WiFi.

Gravijah · (08-02-2012, 05:56 PM)

UncleSporky · (08-02-2012, 05:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Jrpgfanatic:

Yep, the joy of Nintendo not adopting a proper account system. Word on the street is the Wii U will fix that, but who knows if the 3DS and Wii purchases will somehow be granfathered into that program or not.

Yes 3DS will be. Wii is unlikely to get an account system but you will probably be able to transfer your VC purchases over similar to how you can transfer from DSi to 3DS.

http://www.destructoid.com/wii-u-and...--230960.phtml

There have been previous quotes to this effect to from Iwata.

Originally Posted by Vane_MagicCity:

You should have done the transfer but there is no excuse for Nintendo NOT having a proper account system. What's even worse is that they have the records of what you bought but refuse to let you re-download your games for fear that you might have your games on two 3DS's at once. Keep in mind that you can do that with any combination of PS3's, PSP's or Vita's depending only on game compatibility.

You can transfer as much as you like but I'm pretty sure there's a limit to simultaneous installs on multiple devices which was even lowered recently to prevent account sharing.

tuffy · (08-02-2012, 05:57 PM)

Originally Posted by Meatvillain:

I'm confused, you can't transfer purchases from the 3DS to the XL with system transfer? Or is it that if you don't have wifi you're left without any options?

Transfer is simple via WiFi, but one needs to have both systems in your possession at the same time. Until an account system is implemented, expecting Nintendo to know which 3DS in the world is yours without having both on-hand is ridiculous.

Omikaru · (08-02-2012, 05:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Skiesofwonder:

(no idea if they will include/work on your 3DS).

My understanding is that it will support 3DS eventually.

Still, it's really stupid that this wasn't there from the start. In an age where you can buy a new iPhone or PSP/Vita whenever you want the newest model and not have to even contemplate losing your game purchases, Nintendo's system is remarkably stupid. It's not even a something from an older age that hasn't caught up, it's just plain fucking dumb.

I mean, why weren't these things in place years ago, when the Wii came out?

Crewnh · (08-02-2012, 05:58 PM)

This is why I refuse to buy digital with Nintendo. Pushmo and majoras mask were exceptions.

Accounts cant come soon enough.

Why would you do that? · 06:03 PM

Yes, Nintendo said they'll implement an account system soon... I think.

I know they said they'll be doing it for the Wii U, but IIRC they'll add it to the 3DS.

Another sad part of the current system transfer system is that you have limited system transfers, so if you tend to break your 3DSes...

Hobohodo · (08-02-2012, 05:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Effect:

Go back to the store, if it's not to late, and see if they're willing to track down the unit you traded to them and will let you do the transfer.

The 3DS will have been formatted as soon as the sales assistant had a chance.

flyinpiranha · (08-02-2012, 05:59 PM)

You should have said Gamestop, then people would have been on your side no matter what decision you made.

entrement · (08-02-2012, 05:59 PM)

Oh, man. You were not aware of this?

Gamer @ Heart · (08-02-2012, 05:59 PM)

The system of transfer is far from perfect. But you had a chance, were warned, and chose to ignore it because you didnt do the slightest of research.

Pixel_boy · (08-02-2012, 05:59 PM)

What did you think would happen? You try to have it both ways if you want to keep the game next time do that first

Neuromancer · (08-02-2012, 05:59 PM)

Sorry dude, I know that really sucks for you but it's common knowledge now, at least it should be for anyone with a 3DS who is here on GAF.

Yes I agree it sucks but you should have researched it before you walked away, especially when the guy was trying to tell you.

Drago · (08-02-2012, 05:59 PM)

If you call Nintendo they may do something about it if the new system is linked with the same CN account as the old 3DS

Give em a call and see what they can do

tkscz · (08-02-2012, 06:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Meatvillain:

I'm confused, you can't transfer purchases from the 3DS to the XL with system transfer? Or is it that if you don't have wifi you're left without any options? (edit: oh, I see, it's the latter) It does indeed suck that Nintendo are still behind with this sort of thing, hopefully it gets better with the WiiU and future 3DS firmware updates, or something.

He just needed to connect both 3DSes to a wifi signal (which was probably in the store, but might no have been) and then do the transfer right there in the store. Is Nintendo's policy dumb? Yes, all your game perches are on your club Nintendo account which could easily be used as a user account sense they have you connect the two via the eshop. But he WAS TOLD to do the system transfer, so this was on him.

Katzii · (08-02-2012, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by BramVD:

GAME

Pretty sure GAME had a thing going on whereby if you purchased the 3DS XL at full price, you could take it home, do the transfer, and then take the 3DS back in the next day and they would refund the price of the trade-in to you.

Sushigod7 · (08-02-2012, 06:02 PM)

yup they do, sucks

ClovingWestbrook · (08-02-2012, 06:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Wario64:

So what's the issue? You love Nintendo don't you? They are losing money after all.

Lol

Daydream Sequence · 06:07 PM

Your fault for not assuming that Nintendo would do anything online-related the absolute shittiest way possible.

Originally Posted by Drago:

If you call Nintendo they may do something about it if the new system is linked with the same CN account as the old 3DS

Give em a call and see what they can do

Here's a preview of how that call goes: Do you still have the original 3DS? No? Sorry, can't help you. Was your 3DS stolen? Please fax us the police report. No police report? Sorry, can't help you.

Crewnh · (08-02-2012, 06:05 PM)

System transfer takes a while depending on how much stuff you have.

Op misunderstood how the transfer worked. Point is Nintendo is dumb for not having accounts.

Azure Phoenix · (08-02-2012, 06:06 PM)

Originally Posted by tkscz:

He just needed to connect both 3DSes to a wifi signal (which was probably in the store, but might no have been) and then do the transfer right there in the store. Is Nintendo's policy dumb? Yes, all your game perches are on your club Nintendo account which could easily be used as a user account sense they have you connect the two via the eshop. But he WAS TOLD to do the system transfer, so this was on him.

Nope, stores don't have W-Fi since it was turned off during the administration - the transfer couldn't be done in store. Also for this very reason there is a trade-in offer that lets you buy the XL, take it home, do the transfer and then return your 3DS and still get that trade-in offer.

Seriously, if you couldn't be bothered to do the transfer in the first place or read up on Nintendo's (admittedly really crappy) content transfer system and then completely ignored the sales assistant when he was trying to help you out, you've got nobody to blame but yourself.

Alextended · 06:15 PM

Good job on doing everything wrong despite having every chance to keep your DD games, your saves, and everything else!

And then making this thread to let us know of it. I like how many equally ignorant and unwilling to learn replies you get too.

PS: note it's fine to claim you don't want to buy from Nintendo for existing reasons, which can include their particular DD and online implementations, but to claim you agree with the thread title/OP premise which is flat out false is just, not, for obvious reasons...