[Saty]

Blah, now instead of people detracting the PC sales because of retail sales they will do it because '80% was at discounted price'. As if console games don't get slashed. How cheap has Metro 2033 for 360 gotten in the past 2 years?

[Metalmurphy]

Blah, now instead of people detracting the PC sales because of retail sales they will do it because '80% was at discounted price'. As if console games don't get slashed. How cheap has Metro 2033 for 360 gotten in the past 2 years?

Probably never $4.99 :P

[Enco]

Not sure if serious....

He's joking :lol

[Eideka]

He's joking :lol

On Neogaf, you never know !

[Enco]

On Neogaf, you never know !

That's true. You always get crazy comments.

[Dennis]

Don't pull the shit you did with Metro for the sequel.

You know what I am talking about. The Ranger mode (only good way to play the game) being release long after the game came out.

[scitek]

Good now make the sequel have separate options and good gameplay.

That's gonna be a bit tough. I'll be surprised if THQ lasts long enough to release it, too.

[Eideka]

That's gonna be a bit tough. I'll be surprised if THQ lasts long enough to release it, too.

Come on, there is no way Last Light won't be released.

[Overdoziz]

I really hope they improve the gameplay in the sequel. 2033 had a nice atmosphere but that was practically the only thing holding it up.

[SniperHunter]

I really hope they improve the gameplay in the sequel. 2033 had a nice atmosphere but that was practically the only thing holding it up.

agreed and I wasn't impressed by the graphics in Metro 2033 at all....

[Stallion Free]

agreed and I wasn't impressed by the graphics in Metro 2033 at all....

Played on 360?

[Eideka]

agreed and I wasn't impressed by the graphics in Metro 2033 at all....

On PC it's absolutely mind-blowing.

[Bog]

1 million copies at $4.99 each...

[Black_Stride]

Sometimes these numbers just make me wonder. Seriously, there's 6 billion people in the world. At least half of those, or 1/3 of those, own a PC, and a fragment of those owning a PC, are avid PC gamers. Are you telling me that out of 50-100 million PC gamers, maybe even more, 1 million people bought the game (which is awesome, by the way, and I am currently going through the book) and this number is considered a success? Personally I think 1 million copies for a FPS with awesome graphics and great gameplay (admittedly with some problems, but still solid) is just... a joke, way too few to be happy. But for some people apparently it's a threshold that if passed, is a testament of good sales... :-/

A game going platinum is good.
A game with little advertising going platinum is damn good.
A game from an unknown developer going platinum is absolutely great.
A "niche" First Person Shooter going platinum when going up againsts established series like Battlefield, Assassins Creed, Final Fantasy, Yakuza, Command & Conquer and Dawn of War is absolutely astounding.

These numbers might not shock you, but i think you are vastly overblowing the number of "gamers"
You are definitely overblowing the number of "gamers" who Metro 2033 caters to.

[Cipherr]

Sometimes these numbers just make me wonder. Seriously, there's 6 billion people in the world. At least half of those, or 1/3 of those, own a PC, and a fragment of those owning a PC, are avid PC gamers. Are you telling me that out of 50-100 million PC gamers, maybe even more, 1 million people bought the game (which is awesome, by the way, and I am currently going through the book) and this number is considered a success? Personally I think 1 million copies for a FPS with awesome graphics and great gameplay (admittedly with some problems, but still solid) is just... a joke, way too few to be happy. But for some people apparently it's a threshold that if passed, is a testament of good sales... :-/

Looks like someone hasn't yet realize how much of a small niche hardcore gamers are. Young grasshoppa is young.

[SniperHunter]

On PC it's absolutely mind-blowing.

Yea I played the PC version with DX11 without advance depth of field. I wasn't blown away by any of it....

[Eideka]

Yea I played the PC version with DX11 without advance motion blur. I wasn't blown away by any of it....

You did not notice the quality of the god rays ?

[SniperHunter]

You did not notice the quality of the god rays ?

No, not really. One cool thing about Metro 2033 was the real time light sources, killing the lights before advancing was really cool, particularly in those Nazi base levels.

Overall it was an ok game...I played it once and beat it in 8 hours. Looking forward to Metro 2034

[Grinchy]

Wow. For some reason I always got the feel that people hated it. Picked up during the summer sale and it's not too bad. It's not great and I definitely wouldt pay full price though.

I've tried to get into it like 5 times. I always find myself bored as shit. It's a pretty game, but there's not really anything else I find myself liking about it. Maybe I'll try again some time.

[Roybot]

I'am in the process of playing it for the first time, currently at chapter 5.
It really is a great game. Looking forward to Last Light.

[gdt]

Took awhile to click for me, but then I couldn't stop soaking in the game. Loved it. Can't wait for the sequel.

[dLMN8R]

ITT: Gamer gets surprised to find out just how niche his hobby really is :lol:

[Yoshichan]

<- proud to be one of those one million copies :3!

[Wthermans]

I bought it for $5.

[K.Jack]

Might be me but "sailed past a million" reads like they sold way more than just a flat 1M.

[Lasthope106]

It should have sold a lot more. Metro is one of the most unique shooters in gaming history. And perhaps the closest thing to S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

I just hope that Last Light is a hit for THQ. 4A games need only one hit on their hands to be on par with the AAA developers of the world. Imagine just for a second a Metro game with the same resources that say a game like Half-Life 2, or Halo would get. Just thinking about it, sends chills down my spine.

[M3d10n]

1 million copies at $4.99 each...

In the end of the day, after publishers cuts and whatnot, devs still get ~1/4th~1/5th of what they got from each day-one copy.

A developer could get the same money from a $15~$20 game they get from a $60 game if they could take out the publisher and retail costs.

[arts&crafts]

I just installed this yesterday and played a few hours. Really good game. The graphics are phenominal and I am on low settings 1400x900, I am guessing they would be much better not on a laptop. Anyways I am glad it did so well and I am looking forward for the next one. Pretty much make a game in a post apocalyptic setting and I will buy it day 1.

[ledman]

Selling half-million copies to the 360 is really impressive for a eastern european game too.

[joeygreco1985]

Bought it for $5, im sure most people did. This reminds me of when people were trumpeting Super Meatboy's sales on the PC when the damn thing was going for next to nothing on Steam sales and indie bundles

[Letters]

Played on 360?

Even if so, IMO it was easily in second place right after Uncharted 2 when it came to console graphics.

[Joni]

Blah, now instead of people detracting the PC sales because of retail sales they will do it because '80% was at discounted price'. As if console games don't get slashed. How cheap has Metro 2033 for 360 gotten in the past 2 years?

The retail version is a bit more than 10 Pounds on Amazon, double the price of the retail PC version there.

[JaxJag]

about 750k of those sales probably were for $5 during the Steam and GamersGate sales.

[Notperk]

I'm sure that the game's reputation of being one of, if not the, most demanding games out there (hardware wise) helped it to sell so much.

[Makoto]

Are they counting the digital copies that were offered for free with games like Homefront?

[Omegasquash]

Yeah....bought on sale, like most other people. Chances are I'll pony up for Last Light early, provided my rig can run it. Which it might. Never know. There's always XBox, I guess.

[Durante]

Probably never $4.99 :P

Do you think the publisher makes more money on a $4.99 Steam sale or a $14.99 boxed 360 sale?

[En Ex]

Don't pull the shit you did with Metro for the sequel. You know what I am talking about. The Ranger mode (only good way to play the game) being release long after the game came out.

Ranger hardcore, the ONLY way to play Metro 2033.

What an amazing experience except for those amoebas.

[Easy_D]

How many were sold for $5 or less? Selling a large amount of units isn't automatically good, just look at Mirror's Edge which sold 2+million copies but the majority at $10 or less.

A sale is a sale, however. The more people that actually buy it, the more people that recognize the brand, thus increasing the likelihood of them purchasing the sequel at a higher price. (This includes me, who bought the first one for 75% off and can't wait for Last Light)

This reminds me that I need to give Ranger Mode a go. Sounds pretty dope.

[DTKT]

Hum, Last Light is 59.99. Seems like it caught up on the new price for PC games. :|

[EatChildren]

One million too many *cough*.

Just kidding.

Kinda.

[Pranay_]

Do you think the publisher makes more money on a $4.99 Steam sale or a $14.99 boxed 360 sale?

Equal/less

Does 70:30 Apply to games on steam sales ?

[TucoBenedictoPacifico]

Do you think the publisher makes more money on a $4.99 Steam sale or a $14.99 boxed 360 sale?

Eh, I was just going to point this.
People still downplay games sold for discounted prices on the digital market, but these games sell without any distribution cost beside bandwidth, making them almost pure profit, and the publisher takes a way larger cut of the total price.

From the top management of 1C:

by Ben Parfitt Friday, November 26th 2010 As a generalisation, retail would pay these guys a maximum of 40 per cent of what they made. So on a £29.99 game the publisher would receive about £12 (and on a sub-licensed deal, we would then only get about £4.25 of that) – minus return, write down and consignment costs. When would we get that money? Well, payment would be by the end of the quarter. So, let’s say £10 per unit sale goes to the publisher, £3 to the developer/sub-licensor, and it’s in your bank five months after the customer has paid out £30. Compare that to the digital model. On a £29.99 sale, the digital partner will pay the publisher – or in many cases direct to the developer – between 60 and 70 per cent, by the end of the month following the sale. Wow. To recap: on a sale over the counter today, we can have our £3 by the end of March, or on a digital sale, we can have £20 by Christmas. Remind me why we should choose to go with retail and decline to let Steam sell the game?

[NFreak]

I played Metro 2033 for the first time this year and I absolutely adored it. 1 million copies is great for a game like this even if most of those copies were sold at a lower price. As far as I know 2033 is a very low budget game for an FPS so they should have easily made a profit on the game. Can't wait for Last Light.

[Erasus]

Eh, I was just going to point this. People still downplay games sold for discounted prices on the digital market, but these games sell without any distribution cost beside bandwidth, making them almost pure profit, and the publisher takes a way larger cut of the total price. From the top management of 1C:

Thats pretty damn great.

I got it on sale like a year ago for 7 euros.

Still havent played it!

[Nemo]

According to THQ the game has been "very profitable". http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/05/me...-thq-ceo-says/ I bought the game day one on PC at full price and never regretted it !

They paid the people like what, less than a 1000 a month for full time work? Of course it was a profit

[Eideka]

They paid the people like what, less than a 1000 a month for full time work? Of course it was a profit

How do you know how much they were paid ?

[Piano]

I wanted to like this game so, so bad. But the gameplay is weak.

[Raoh]

Really good game, enjoyed it a lot. Played it on the pc myself as well.

None of my friends on the 360 bothered to play it. Said it lacked multiplayer and that halo/gears like reviews/exposure, which is really for the multiplayer.

[Nemo]

How do you know how much they were paid ?

Well like the CEO says in the link, even at low level sales they'll still get a profit. They sure didn't get a budget you'd expect for that kind of game