[Nealand Liquor]

Are the hand guns better than the rifles, or vice versa?
Is there one better than the rest?

[Nealand Liquor]

Pity bump pleading for opinions

[Ploid 3.0]

I guess the Killzone gun thing is the best still.

[Fancy Corndog]

The official 'Sharpshooter' is apparently a really solid accessory.

Resistance 3 is probably the best game that makes use of it. I've heard Killzone 3 is bad but does the motion controls well.


edit: This is not based on personal experience just on what I've heard.

[EatinOlives]

Did you get it on sale by any chance? I'm waiting on a good deal to use this baby on inFAMOUS 2 and LBP2.

[Neuromancer]

I have the sharp shooter and its awesome. HotD Overkill is godly with it.

[BibiMaghoo]

The best one, but also the most expensive.

[MRORANGE]

I heard old school gun nuts use these:



This one is good though:

[UpperCaseN]

what game(s) do you plan on using it with? I'm kind of anti-gun shells but loved it for HotD: Overkill on Wii (Nyko Perfect Shot) so I can't see anything wrong with the same type of gun shell for the same type of game on PS3

[Nealand Liquor]

I guess the Killzone gun thing is the best still.

Oh? I had no idea bumping was against the tos.

I had thought the joystick placement looked awkward, but that's just my impressiin based on sight.

[xKilltheMx]

Oh? I had no idea bumping was against the tos. I had thought the joystick placement looked awkward, but that's just my impressiin based on sight.

It is at first, but when you get use to it it's amazing.
If you plan to play more lightgun games (HOTD) it'd be better to go ahead and get one of those pistol looking shells because using the Sharpshooter with those is badddddddd

[Hunter-Zero]

The sharpshooter looks nice, and uses the extra port in the move to map some buttons, but works kinda meh in several games, in Dead Space Extraction is awesome, so is in House of the Dead Overkill, in the rest, not so much, i kinda regret buying it.

I would suggest you the official gun shell, cheap, comfortable, and works just fine.

[Nealand Liquor]

Did you get it on sale by any chance? I'm waiting on a good deal to use this baby on inFAMOUS 2 and LBP2.

Hot the lbp2 bundle for 49 on clearance.

what game(s) do you plan on using it with? I'm kind of anti-gun shells but loved it for HotD: Overkill on Wii (Nyko Perfect Shot) so I can't see anything wrong with the same type of gun shell for the same type of game on PS3

Might give KZ3 a shot, but I got time crisis to play. I'm a sucker for old school on rails shooters

Hmmm, I'm guessing I'm totally wrong on my opinion.

[pje122]

Sharpshooter

[Grinchy]

I thought the Sharpshooter was really terrible with Killzone 3. Is it that much better for Resistance 3? I might try it out if so.

[spats]

The sharpshooter looks nice, and uses the extra port in the move to map some buttons, but works kinda meh in several games, in Dead Space Extraction is awesome, so is in House of the dead Overkill, in the rest, not so much, i kinda regret buying it. I would suggest you the official gun shell, cheap, comfortable, and works just fine.

I have this thing, it's ok. Only used it with Time Crisis. I really need to buy more lightgun games.

[GoofsterStud]

When your done with those get House of the Dead 4.

<3

[Hunter-Zero]

Might give KZ3 a shot, but I got time crisis to play. I'm a sucker for old school on rails shooters

Ogh, one of the worst gaming experiences i had in my life, stay away for your own good

[Nealand Liquor]

I thought the Sharpshooter was really terrible with Killzone 3. Is it that much better for Resistance 3? I might try it out if so.

Was it due to the joystick placement?
There is this unofficial m16 looking one with the joystick in the handle I've been eyeballing.

[Hunter-Zero]

Was it due to the joystick placement?

Nope, severe cursor drifting issues

[Nealand Liquor]

Nope, severe cursor drifting issues

Ohhhhh, that's pretty game breaking.

With that in mind, is calibrating supposed to be a bitch?
I just fired it up for the first time this morning, without any sort of gun shell, and the crosshair was all over the place. I've been shooting all my life and the aiming with just the wand was so inaccurate I stopped playing after five minutes.

[Hunter-Zero]

Calibrating can be a pain in the ass, yes.

You should take a look at one of the several TTP´s videos about the move calibration, really good stuff

http://www.iwaggle3d.com/

[Pai Pai Master]

Yeah just get the Sharpshooter and Resistance 3 (best Move shooter by far). It takes some getting used to but after 30 minutes or so with it the first time, I found it far more engaging than using a controller could ever hope to be. Especially with the variety of awesome weapons in R3.

There is a massive 10-15 minute firefight at one point in Resistance 3 in New York that is just pure FPS euphoria and it was not the same with a Dualshock.

[vazel]

I don't like the Sharpshooter. For games with an adjustable camera the sharpshooter makes it a clunky experience. It's fine for on-rails lightgun games with static cameras.

TTP, who I believe is behind the site iwaggle3d.com is also not a big fan of the sharpshooter.

IMO, don't buy a gun shell. It's a much more comfortable and accurate experience holding the Move and Nav in your hands.

[Galdelico]

I'm all about on-rail shooters (HotD III, 4, Overkill, Resident Evi Chronicles...) and I find the Sony gun-thingy



just perfect.

Since you seem more FPS oriented, maybe the Sharpshooter is your best option.

[Grinchy]

Ohhhhh, that's pretty game breaking. With that in mind, is calibrating supposed to be a bitch? I just fired it up for the first time this morning, without any sort of gun shell, and the crosshair was all over the place. I've been shooting all my life and the aiming with just the wand was so inaccurate I stopped playing after five minutes.

I think KZ3 is awesome with Move, just not with the sharpshooter. I get the horrible drifting and the need for recalibration every few minutes while trying to use the plastic shell.

I'll give it a shot on Resistance though.

[Nealand Liquor]

Calibrating can be a pain in the ass, yes. You should take a look at one of the several TTP´s videos about the move calibration, really good stuff http://www.iwaggle3d.com/

Awesome! Thanks for that link!

has anyone tried any of these 3rd party guns?

Are they complete crap?
Chances are based on the price they are, but I dunno, maybe not?

[Bradach]

Try the sharpshooter before you buy is my advice. I found it to be an unwieldy piece of junk. The little 60's ray gun one is the best I've tried. It's only good for on rails shooters though. For anything else just use the move controller with no attachments.

[Nealand Liquor]

Try the sharpshooter before you buy is my advice. I found it to be an unwieldy piece of junk. The little 60's ray gun one is the best I've tried. It's only good for on rails shooters though. For anything else just use the move controller with no attachments.

I've really found it hard to aim just using the wand. Is this me, the calibration, or is the move not really compatible with shooters outside of the on-rails genre?

[Raoh]

This

And two of these....



Two Player Game, Two Move Controllers, Two Gun Attachments... and just you.....

[Raoh]

I've really found it hard to aim just using the wand. Is this me, the calibration, or is the move not really compatible with shooters outside of the on-rails genre?

It's all in the calibration. dont stand/sit awkwardly when calibrating.

For instance I once calibrated with my arm resting on the top of my couch and pointing at the pseye. As if you had your arm around your girl.

This allowed me to just rest my arm casually without having my arm out all the time which is awkward and tiring.


Depends on the game of course. Outside of games where you have to swing like champions, you just flick your wrist and press buttons from a comfortable position.

[Hunter-Zero]

I've really found it hard to aim just using the wand. Is this me, the calibration, or is the move not really compatible with shooters outside of the on-rails genre?

The move can work fine with first person shooters, in fact, it can work really well, but the thing is, you really need to calibrate it well and do not wave your arms around to aim, that would cause drifting, just let the device as still as possible, let your arm rest on your legs, turn the sensitivity up, and move the cursor with small wrist movements.

[blitzcloud]

Two Player Game, Two Move Controllers, Two Gun Attachments... and just you.....

How did I never think of something so amazing yet so simple?

[Nealand Liquor]

It's all in the calibration. dont stand/sit awkwardly when calibrating. For instance I once calibrated with my arm resting on the top of my couch and pointing at the pseye. As if you had your arm around your girl. This allowed me to just rest my arm casually without having my arm out all the time which is awkward and tiring. Depends on the game of course. Outside of games where you have to swing like champions, you just flick your wrist and press buttons from a comfortable position.

The move can work fine with first person shooters, in fact, it can work really well, but the thing is, you really need to calibrate it well and do not wave your arms around to aim, that would cause drifting, just let the device as still as possible, let your arm rest on your legs, turn the sensitivity up, and move the cursor with small wrist movements.

Ahhh, thanks for the tips!

[TTP]

It's all in the calibration. dont stand/sit awkwardly when calibrating. For instance I once calibrated with my arm resting on the top of my couch and pointing at the pseye. As if you had your arm around your girl. This allowed me to just rest my arm casually without having my arm out all the time which is awkward and tiring. Depends on the game of course. Outside of games where you have to swing like champions, you just flick your wrist and press buttons from a comfortable position.

In most shooters (on-rail or FPS) it really doesn't matter from what position you calibrate. As long as you point were you are supposed to point (camera and then screen corners), it's all good.

After having calibrated, you can play from whatever position you like. Doesn't need to be the one you calibrated from.

Your position during calibration only matters in VR games like Datura, The Fight, Tumble etc.

As for the OP question, my personal suggestion would be to get the Sharp Shooter for light gun games and use the vanilla Move for everything else (and learn to aim with your wrist, rather than the whole arm).

[lupinko]

I prefer the official sony gunshell, the red/white one.

Having two definitely made dualwielding more fun in various light gun games.

IMO, Move alone is worth it for all the light gun games PSN has, which are the Namco light gun games, the House of Dead games, and now those RE Chronicles ports.

[Noisepurge]

the official red/white laserpistol from sony, most cheap 3rd party ones are really painful to use.

but another valid option is the Precision Shot 3, for more complex games that require a nunchuk as well, its also quite abit smaller than the Sony Assault Rifle :D

[mrklaw]

I've really found it hard to aim just using the wand. Is this me, the calibration, or is the move not really compatible with shooters outside of the on-rails genre?

I don't like the way you hold the naked move for lightgun games. Your hand is just at the wrong angle. You need to be holding a pistol grip ideally. I have the raygun shell and its fine.

[KevinCow]

The sharpshooter looks nice, and uses the extra port in the move to map some buttons, but works kinda meh in several games, in Dead Space Extraction is awesome, so is in House of the Dead Overkill, in the rest, not so much, i kinda regret buying it. I would suggest you the official gun shell, cheap, comfortable, and works just fine.

I can't speak for how it works since I've never used it, but I love this one for looking like a '50s sci-fi ray gun.

[Nealand Liquor]

the official red/white laserpistol from sony, most cheap 3rd party ones are really painful to use. but another valid option is the Precision Shot 3, for more complex games that require a nunchuk as well, its also quite abit smaller than the Sony Assault Rifle :D

Damn it!
I wish I saw this post before I bought a hand gun shell off of ebay. I saw that exact gun for $5 including shipping, but thought it looked cheap :(

[dark_prinny]

I guess the Killzone gun thing is the best still.

Can´t go wrong with this. It´s perfect. Playing House of the Dead Overkill with that thing Is trully fun.

[tusken77]

This is what I use for House of the Dead: Overkill. Love it.