Wario64
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:30 PM)

Wario64's Avatar
PSA: last day to grab R-Type Delta and R-Types from US PSN (PS One Classics) #1

This was mentioned briefly on the last PS Blogcast but I kinda forgot to post it last week. It's being delisted tomorrow. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
LiK
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:32 PM)

LiK's Avatar
#2

curse you Irem
BHK3
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:32 PM)

BHK3's Avatar
#3

Why is it being delisted?
Absoludacrous
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:33 PM)

Absoludacrous's Avatar
#4

Anyone who didn't already own Delta was making a huge mistake.

Is anything happening to Dimensions on XBLA?
Wario64
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:34 PM)

Wario64's Avatar
#5

Originally Posted by BHK3: View Post
Why is it being delisted?
From last year:

http://andriasang.com/comx5u/irem_psn/

Quote:
Act soon if you want to download Irem games from PlayStation Store. The troubled publisher announced today that on August 11, it will pull the following product from the shop:

R-Type Tactics (PSP)
Mousukesu based on Carton-kun (PSP)
Bumpy Trott Beagle Battle Tournament (PSP)
Ikuze! Gensan Yuyake Daikou Monogatari (PSP)
R-Type Tactics II Operation Bitter Chocolate (PSP)
Sengoku Esatsu Yugi Hototogisu Ran (PSP)
Sengoku Esatsu Yugi Hototogisu Dairan (PSP)
Narisokonai Eiyuutan: Story of the Sun and Moon (PSP)
R-Types (Game Archives)
R-Type Delta (Game Archives)
Gussun Paradise (Game Archives)
Irem Arcade Classics (Game Archives)

All demos, download content, videos and custom themes relating to these games will also be pulled from PSN on the same day.

On PlayStation Home, Irem will close many of its lounges on September 1. The company has a number of lounges, covering everything from Doki Doki Suikoden to Spelunker.

Irem did not say why it's taking these steps.

[Via Game Jouhou]

Correction 7/24: This story originally miswrote that Irem is closing all its lounges. It looks like some lounges may not be closing. As noted by Mao in the comments below, lounges for Pachipara and Dokidoki Suikoden are not listed in Irem's list of closures.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
(08-06-2012, 07:37 PM)

double jump's Avatar
#6

in the future will I be able to redownload them if they already have been purchased ?
spats
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:38 PM)

spats's Avatar
#7

Originally Posted by double jump: View Post
in the future will I be able to redownload them if they already have been purchased ?
I believe so. You can still redownload stuff like GT HD which was pulled years and years ago.
double jump
you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
(08-06-2012, 07:39 PM)

double jump's Avatar
#8

also I was having problems saving the game in rtype delta. Do I need a ps1 memory card or something ?

thanks in advance to who ever answers this.
corrosivefrost
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:41 PM)

corrosivefrost's Avatar
#9

No way to purchase PSOne games without a PS3, right?
My PS3 is dead and being serviced, so all I have is a Vita at the moment.
SappYoda
Member
(08-06-2012, 07:44 PM)

SappYoda's Avatar
#10

Originally Posted by corrosivefrost: View Post
No way to purchase PSOne games without a PS3, right?
My PS3 is dead and being serviced, so all I have is a Vita at the moment.
Use Media Go: http://mediago.sony.com/enu/features
corrosivefrost
Member
(08-06-2012, 08:02 PM)

corrosivefrost's Avatar
#11

Originally Posted by SappYoda: View Post
Giving this a try.

R-Types was some sort of PSX collection, right?
Does it have "Super R-Type"?
Pyrrhus
Member
(08-06-2012, 08:05 PM)

Pyrrhus's Avatar
#12

Originally Posted by corrosivefrost: View Post
Giving this a try.

R-Types was some sort of PSX collection, right?
Does it have "Super R-Type"?
Sort of. Super R-Type was a modified version of R-Type II, which is included in R-Types.
corrosivefrost
Member
(08-06-2012, 08:27 PM)

corrosivefrost's Avatar
#13

Not seeing them in Media Go. :(
AndyMoogle
Member
(08-06-2012, 08:31 PM)

AndyMoogle's Avatar
#14

What about Europe?

EDIT: They were never released here to begin with. :( At least I still have my PS1 copy of Delta, so I guess it doesn't matter much to me.
Last edited by AndyMoogle; 08-06-2012 at 08:35 PM.
Tain
Member
(08-06-2012, 08:37 PM)

Tain's Avatar
#15

this reminded me to go buy physical Delta

thank you!
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
(08-06-2012, 08:38 PM)

TheFLYINGManga_Ka's Avatar
#16

Maybe I should grab R Type Tactics. But to every SHMUP fans, Delta is a must-have!
brooklyniteOne
Junior Member
(08-06-2012, 08:50 PM)

brooklyniteOne's Avatar
#17

Oh damn. How much is R-Type Delta in the US Store?
TheFLYINGManga_Ka
Member
(08-06-2012, 08:51 PM)

TheFLYINGManga_Ka's Avatar
#18

Originally Posted by brooklyniteOne: View Post
Oh damn. How much is R-Type Delta in the US Store?
I think it's like $6, but I may be wrong.
corrosivefrost
Member
(08-06-2012, 09:05 PM)

corrosivefrost's Avatar
#19

Originally Posted by TheFLYINGManga_Ka: View Post
I think it's like $6, but I may be wrong.
I think both Types and Delta are $6, but I can't confirm. :(
mrklaw
MrArseFace
(08-06-2012, 09:16 PM)

mrklaw's Avatar
#20

Originally Posted by AndyMoogle: View Post
What about Europe?

EDIT: They were never released here to begin with. :( At least I still have my PS1 copy of Delta, so I guess it doesn't matter much to me.
Shit, really? That means the copy of delta I have on my ps3 must be a US one. Which means it won't transfer to my UK vita when they eventually bring PSone support :/
BioHazard
Member
(08-06-2012, 09:26 PM)

BioHazard's Avatar
#21

thanks for heads up. I will buy them tonight
Zee-Row
Member
(08-06-2012, 09:28 PM)

Zee-Row's Avatar
#22

What about the R-Types on the U.S virtual console?
Slermy
Member
(08-06-2012, 09:35 PM)

Slermy's Avatar
#23

Oh yeah, isn't there like a "Rebirth" one or something? Or was that Gradius?
GrumpyAlien
Member
(08-06-2012, 09:36 PM)

GrumpyAlien's Avatar
#24

Thank you for the reminder! I guess I need to get Delta now or else...
AndyMoogle
Member
(08-06-2012, 09:39 PM)

AndyMoogle's Avatar
#25

Originally Posted by Slermy: View Post
Oh yeah, isn't there like a "Rebirth" one or something? Or was that Gradius?
That was Gradius. I'm pretty sure that R-Type Final was the last R-Type shmup.
CecilMcW00t
Member
(08-06-2012, 09:43 PM)

CecilMcW00t's Avatar
#26

Ugh... I had a feeling this was gonna happen when I noticed Hammerin' Hero had suddenly disappeared. I have both R-Type games on disc but I have been meaning to get them so I could play on the go. Thanks for the heads up.
corrosivefrost
Member
(08-06-2012, 10:30 PM)

corrosivefrost's Avatar
#27

After some hassle, I can confirm that I was able to buy both Delta and R-Types via Media Go. Now I just need my PS3 back or PSOne support on Vita.
PixyJunket
Member
(08-06-2012, 11:18 PM)

PixyJunket's Avatar
#28

Originally Posted by Zee-Row: View Post
What about the R-Types on the U.S virtual console?
They were pulled earlier in the year along with all other Irem stuff.

I don't think they made any announcement for the VC side, but I grabbed Ninja Spirit and Legend of Hero Tonma (both for TG16) just in case (and I was right).
Zee-Row
Member
(08-06-2012, 11:39 PM)

Zee-Row's Avatar
#29

Originally Posted by PixyJunket: View Post
They were pulled earlier in the year along with all other Irem stuff.

I don't think they made any announcement for the VC side, but I grabbed Ninja Spirit and Legend of Hero Tonma (both for TG16) just in case (and I was right).
Damn it I have R-Type 3 and R-Type Turbo Grafix 16 but never got Super R-Type.
Jazzem
Member
(08-07-2012, 12:25 AM)

Jazzem's Avatar
#30

Thanks for the heads up! Just grabbed Delta from the US store despite being in the UK (it is possible!). Really sad what happened to Irem :(
@MUWANdo
Member
(08-07-2012, 12:29 AM)
#31

How is pulling their games off the shelf gonna help Irem? Assuming they still own the R-Type IP outright, wouldn't it be better for them, us and everyone else to keep the games up there?
SkyMasterson
Member
(08-07-2012, 12:32 AM)

SkyMasterson's Avatar
#32

Originally Posted by @MUWANdo: View Post
How is pulling their games off the shelf gonna help Irem? Assuming they still own the R-Type IP outright, wouldn't it be better for them, us and everyone else to keep the games up there?
They'll probably get more sales in these next few days than they've had all year.
Ravidrath
Lab Zero Games
(08-07-2012, 12:33 AM)

Ravidrath's Avatar
#33

Originally Posted by @MUWANdo: View Post
How is pulling their games off the shelf gonna help Irem? Assuming they still own the R-Type IP outright, wouldn't it be better for them, us and everyone else to keep the games up there?
They're going out of business - they don't have anyone to receive the money, manage the accounts, pay the taxes, etc.
@MUWANdo
Member
(08-07-2012, 12:36 AM)
#34

Originally Posted by Ravidrath: View Post
They're going out of business - they don't have anyone to receive the money, manage the accounts, pay the taxes, etc.
They're actually, formally closing? I thought they were still around in some administrative capacity, a la 3DR.
SPE
Member
(08-07-2012, 12:40 AM)
#35

Question: Once it's been delisted, will I be able to still re-download it from my download history?

I have it installed on my PS3, but will need to get the install bubble back to move it to my Vita after the glorious, life changing, Summer 2012 of love update.
Ravidrath
Lab Zero Games
(08-07-2012, 01:41 AM)

Ravidrath's Avatar
#36

Originally Posted by @MUWANdo: View Post
They're actually, formally closing? I thought they were still around in some administrative capacity, a la 3DR.
I don't know what the full story is, but... as I see it, the only reason to pull things down is because they no longer have the capability to administrate.

I will say this - I have a friend that worked at IREM and is now at Granzella. He didn't paint a good picture of things at IREM before ZZT4 was canceled, and the entire development staff was let go afterwards. And that was over a year ago.

So I'd say they've been in the administrative phase ever since ZZT4 was canceled, and now it's time to wind that down, too.
Last edited by Ravidrath; 08-07-2012 at 01:58 AM.
isual
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:05 AM)

isual's Avatar
#37

This can be quite scary. Will the same policy occur in the future with any other companies' forclosure ?

Is this is true, then that means all bought digital games will be a hindrance for people to re-download.
Arc
Junior Member
(08-07-2012, 02:24 AM)

Arc's Avatar
#38

Originally Posted by double jump: View Post
also I was having problems saving the game in rtype delta. Do I need a ps1 memory card or something ?

thanks in advance to who ever answers this.
You need to create a virtual memory card in your PS3.

Just go to the Game tab in XMB and select "Memory Card Utility".
MaverickHunterX
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:26 AM)

MaverickHunterX's Avatar
#39

Originally Posted by Wario64: View Post
This was mentioned briefly on the last PS Blogcast but I kinda forgot to post it last week. It's being delisted tomorrow. Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

Thanks wario, man. I'm glad that someone actually pays attention to shit like this (fucking missed capcoms fate delisting two months ago)

I guess wario does what game journalismdon't

(I did send this page to joystiq, and finally they put the news up. Sorry wario, they just credited the forum and not the man)
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/08/06/ps...-games-on-psn/
Wario64
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:29 AM)

Wario64's Avatar
#40

Originally Posted by ddp72984: View Post
Thanks wario, man. I'm glad that someone actually pays attention to shit like this (fucking missed capcoms fate delisting two months ago)

I guess wario does what game journalismdon't

(I did send this page to joystiq, and finally they put the news up. Sorry wario, they just credited the forum and not the man)
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/08/06/ps...-games-on-psn/
It's cool, not looking for credit. But if you followed my Twitter account, you would have known this the instant the Blogcast ep was up :)

https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/231179928337526784
To Far Away Times
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:35 AM)

To Far Away Times's Avatar
#41

It's really sad that IREM is closing up shop. R-Type was one of the very best games of the 80's and it's still really good to this day. I played through it not to long ago and I was playing in 4 to 6 hours a day for several days. I got really, really hooked on it. =)

The level design is some of the best ever. In any genre.
Akkad
Banned
(08-07-2012, 02:38 AM)

Akkad's Avatar
#42

I wish they would release R-Type Final as a PS2 classic on PSN, but I guess that ain't happening now. I loved that game.
BomberMouse
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:40 AM)

BomberMouse's Avatar
#43

Wow I didn't know irem was closing down, I really liked their disaster games and bumpy trot
MikeE21286
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:40 AM)

MikeE21286's Avatar
#44

what do these bad boys cost on the US PSN store?
CecilMcW00t
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:42 AM)

CecilMcW00t's Avatar
#45

Originally Posted by MikeE21286: View Post
what do these bad boys cost on the US PSN store?
$5.99 each
Yuterald
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:42 AM)

Yuterald's Avatar
#46

God damn, digital distribution is such garbage sometimes. Glad I still own my physical Delta. I'll need to buy a physical R-Types one day too. This kind of news always depresses me. =(
@MUWANdo
Member
(08-07-2012, 02:47 AM)
#47

Originally Posted by Ravidrath: View Post
I don't know what the full story is, but... as I see it, the only reason to pull things down is because they no longer have the capability to administrate.

I will say this - I have a friend that worked at IREM and is now at Granzella. He didn't paint a good picture of things at IREM before ZZT4 was canceled, and the entire development staff was let go afterwards. And that was over a year ago.

So I'd say they've been in the administrative phase ever since ZZT4 was canceled, and now it's time to wind that down, too.
Oh, damn. RIP Irem. Hopefully someone with half a clue can resurrect R-Type someday.


Originally Posted by SPE: View Post
Question: Once it's been delisted, will I be able to still re-download it from my download history?

I have it installed on my PS3, but will need to get the install bubble back to move it to my Vita after the glorious, life changing, Summer 2012 of love update.
I don't know how it'll work on PSN or with the Irem stuff in particular but I know that people who purchased the delisted Wii VC games can delete and re-download them without any hassles, and the same is true of some other delisted XBLA/PSN games too, IIRC.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
(08-07-2012, 02:49 AM)

Kai Dracon's Avatar
#48

Originally Posted by Yuterald: View Post
God damn, digital distribution is such garbage sometimes. Glad I still own my physical Delta. I'll need to buy a physical R-Types one day too. This kind of news always depresses me. =(
People who bought copies can still redownload the files.

The real problem here is licensing and rights issues, why these games have to be taken off services as far as new sales go.

Physical copies don't last forever either, and don't get re-printed when they're scratched, broken, etc. There is no perfect solution to collecting stuff.
Eusis
Member
(08-07-2012, 03:00 AM)

Eusis's Avatar
#49

Originally Posted by Kaijima: View Post
People who bought copies can still redownload the files.

The real problem here is licensing and rights issues, why these games have to be taken off services as far as new sales go.

Physical copies don't last forever either, and don't get re-printed when they're scratched, broken, etc. There is no perfect solution to collecting stuff.
Digital Distribution works best when all companies are healthy, not getting into disputes, and don't feel the need to manipulate availability for marketing reasons. And thankfully stuff like this so far seems to be the exception rather than the norm, but it's still a shame every time it happens, and it does seem more likely to happen with titles that weren't mega popular in the first place. Still, at least for physical copies it's more a matter of the laws of physics being a bitch, rather than something more arbitrary.

Also it seems usually if we have availability actively manipulated it's stuff like, say, pulling Sonic 2006 from XBL. A move I object to out of principle, but scrap that away and it's almost cause for celebration instead.
MikeE21286
Member
(08-07-2012, 03:35 AM)

MikeE21286's Avatar
#50

Originally Posted by CecilMcW00t: View Post
$5.99 each
thanks