Zombie James
(08-06-2012, 07:58 PM)

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NBA Jam XXX #1

http://www.nintendoplayer.com/protot...ndo-prototype/

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Due to the memory constraints of the 16-bit system, the long strands of voice samples from the classic arcade game had to be modified to fit a Super Nintendo cartridge. Tim Kitzrow, NBA Jam‘s memorable voice-over announcer, was called back into the studio to shorten his calls. During one of these recording sessions, a number of outtakes were saved as a joke, which served as the basis for a special, profanity-filled, in-house-only game–one that, if word ever got out about its existence, could have severely jeopardized Acclaim’s relationship with the NBA league and completely shut down NBA Jam‘s development for good.

At least, that was the explanation given from this supposed Acclaim employee. Even after almost two decades, this industry insider remains in hiding, unwilling to publicly divulge his identity for fear of retaliation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuX7psH9PHY

My 10-year-old self would have loved this version.
Wario64
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(08-06-2012, 08:01 PM)

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#2

hes on fucking fire
catabarez
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(08-06-2012, 08:01 PM)

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#3

Going into this thread I had no idea what to expect.
ShockingAlberto
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(08-06-2012, 08:01 PM)

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#4

This is amazing
deejay8595
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(08-06-2012, 08:02 PM)

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I'm CRYING!!!! LOL!!!
Mihael Mello Keehl
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(08-06-2012, 08:02 PM)

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From downtown! Goddamn that shit went in!


and this is a stealth nostalgia thread.
Sgblues
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(08-06-2012, 08:04 PM)

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Wow this is cool and really unexpected that they did make a game with the outtakes in it
Hot Coldman
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(08-06-2012, 08:04 PM)

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#8

Good, but it's no "THREE".
Ploid 3.0
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(08-06-2012, 08:04 PM)

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#9

Awesome end of first quarter buzzer shot.
krae_man
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(08-06-2012, 08:04 PM)

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Seems very light on the announcer. Didn't he used to say something after every basket?
Buckethead
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(08-06-2012, 08:06 PM)

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#11

Brilliant.

I always thought/hoped there was something like this with "Ratatouille", e.g.: "He's ruining the fucking soup!".
Mihael Mello Keehl
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(08-06-2012, 08:06 PM)

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#12

Get that shit outta here..Idk if my grandma would have let me played that one though lol
secretanchitman
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(08-06-2012, 08:07 PM)

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#13

awesome! this needed to be in the retail game, only unlockable using sort of password system or by beating some hidden insane challenge.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
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#14

I hoped to see spinning dunks on to large erect penises.
EmCeeGramr
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(08-06-2012, 08:10 PM)

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No fucking way!
LeBrick James
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(08-06-2012, 08:10 PM)

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"Get that shit out of here!" is just perfect.
Hot Coldman
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(08-06-2012, 08:12 PM)

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Originally Posted by B_Rik_Schitthaus: View Post
I hoped to see spinning dunks on to large erect penises.
and that Mötley Crüe song about girls
Gentleman Jack
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(08-06-2012, 08:13 PM)

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I remember the bullshit 3 pointers and half court shots that game would award the AI opponents. So much rage.
Jockel
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(08-06-2012, 08:13 PM)

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Okay, but is the ROM dumped so I can stealthily convert normal looking NBA Jam carts and sell them on ebay?
Edit: NVM, found it.
Last edited by Jockel; 08-06-2012 at 08:14 PM. Reason: Stupidity
snkryo
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(08-06-2012, 08:16 PM)
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This would of been awesome.
Nekki
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(08-06-2012, 08:18 PM)

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#21

Awesome, lol
bjork
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(08-06-2012, 08:20 PM)
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I love it!
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(08-06-2012, 08:20 PM)

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#23

They should do this in all sports games.
JehutyRunner
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(08-06-2012, 08:26 PM)

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#24

BOOMSHAKAFUCKINGLAKA!
chiablo
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(08-06-2012, 08:27 PM)
#25

Skip to the good stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuX7...ailpage#t=112s
Chesskid1
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(08-06-2012, 08:29 PM)

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#26

AMAZING
ElectricBlanketFire
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(08-06-2012, 08:33 PM)

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#27

Wow.
Nibel
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(08-06-2012, 08:33 PM)

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#28

Amazing game got even more amazing, damn
Tenki
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(08-06-2012, 08:36 PM)

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#29

lol
Aku-Audi
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(08-06-2012, 08:38 PM)

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I came into this thread expecting a new game with Scotty Pippen running around nude and unlockable Sasha Grey like those BMX XXX games on GC.

Pleasantly surprised it was instead one of my all time favorite games with hilarious commentary
JehutyRunner
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(08-06-2012, 08:38 PM)

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#31

It's fake.

Saaad face. :(
CamHostage
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(08-06-2012, 08:46 PM)

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Originally Posted by krae_man: View Post
Seems very light on the announcer. Didn't he used to say something after every basket?
Well, it's a "prototype version", right? So maybe the balance isn't tuned in this version.

This site seems to do its diligence in identifying ROMs but I'm still not sold. The sound sample compression seems pretty different from what actually shipped. There's even some sibilance and audio tail which would have been filtered to hell and cut to the bare minimum in order to fit on a SNES cart. (Compare the "He's On Fucking Fire" MP3 to the "He's On Fire" in the real game, it's so filtered and cut down in the game it's almost a phonetic assemblage of sounds.) The Acclaim versions of Jam weren't at all consistent in audio handling (some sounds are slowed down, some are much more compressed than others) but the sound quality here is just too good compare to what people paid for. So, was this "XXX" version done later when they had better sound compression algorithms? (Tournament seemed to have better audio, but this isn't running on Tournament.) Was this stored on a bigger ROM to keep that unsquished sound? (But the article says that the dump is only 11k different, so was the sound stored on a different EPROM and not counted in the article?)

I'm not saying it's an April Fools fake cart, but I don't get how or when this was made? Maybe the voice samples were done for Jam but the SNES "XXX" build was done later and not immediately as as launch joke as the article seems to indicate?

(EDIT - Kotaku did some investigation and got a sourced answer to it being fake... but they seem to have missed the point. This isn't a YT hack, according to NintendoPlayer at least, it's a real playable ROM. Not that a SNES ROM couldn't be hacked or that somebody couldn't parody Kitzrow but not EVERYTHING about this story stinks... I don't know what to think.)
Last edited by CamHostage; 08-06-2012 at 08:51 PM.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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#33

Damn Cam..you wrote a lot when you could have just checked the post above yours!
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Originally Posted by JehutyRunner: View Post
It's fake.

Saaad face. :(
Well, it was a fun ride while it lasted.
Gaogaogao
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#35

there seems to be a varying level of sound quality from get that shit out of here (low) to hes fucking up (high)
CamHostage
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(08-06-2012, 08:53 PM)

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Originally Posted by HIGH DEF JEFF: View Post
Damn Cam..you wrote a lot when you could have just checked the post above yours!
JehutyRunner posted while I was typing. Still, Kotaku did some investigation and got a sourced answer to it being fake... but they seem to have missed the point. This isn't a YT hack, according to NintendoPlayer at least, it's a real playable ROM. Totally different story, especially since NintendoPlayer does seem to have a deep throat from Iguana. I don't know the site well but they don't seem to be a fly-by-night ROM site that knows nothing about fakes.

Not that a SNES ROM couldn't be hacked or that somebody couldn't parody Kitzrow but not EVERYTHING about this story stinks... just, the details don't line up cleanly for either fake or real Iguana demo. I don't know what to think?
Last edited by CamHostage; 08-06-2012 at 09:46 PM.
ReXXXSoprano
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#37

This was funny as hell.

I'm glad somebody asked Kitzrow what was good because I was getting ready to ask him myself.
Grayman
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(08-06-2012, 08:57 PM)
#38

its hypnotic. I do remember more frequent talkie in the genesis version though.
John Rabbit
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#39

sound quality between the normal audio and supposed profane audio does not match.
THE NO LIFE KING
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Fuck, can't believe this is fake. Would of been an awesome rumor to hear about this back in the day.
CamHostage
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Originally Posted by John Rabbit: View Post
sound quality between the normal audio and supposed profane audio does not match.
But it doesn't sound like a sound-alike actor either is the thing. I guess everybody in the mid-90s learned Jam impressions, so maybe (probably, according to the actor) it's a fake, but it seems like a lot of work to get a really accurate mimic, then go to the trouble of hacking a really space-constrained SNES ROM, all just to fool some vaporware fansite?

Like I said, something smells fishy here, but I don't think the entire story stinks. There's probably more to it than just a big "FU internet believers" from NintendoPlayer, but who knows if Mike and Lisker will be able to explain the situation.
Last edited by CamHostage; 08-06-2012 at 09:53 PM.
alr1ght
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It's Kotaku. I choose to not believe them.
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Originally Posted by JehutyRunner: View Post
It's fake.

Saaad face. :(
The sceptic in me thinks that you wouldn't find anyone who was a part of the game to admit this was real.
snack
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I would pay a good amount for a version like this.
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Originally Posted by snack: View Post
I would pay a good amount for a version like this.
If there's a rom, you can put it on a cart.
Aku-Audi
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The NintendoPlayer guy usually posts over at the Lost Levels.org forums (same people that released Bio Force Ape and dozens of other prototype dumps) and is more or less a verified dude by the staff there, so unless he was tricked himself I have little reason not to believe his story. The ROM was posted on their forums as well.

One for is for sure, I ain't ever putting Kotaku's words as my truth to follow, on anything.
joeygreco1985
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This video just makes me think of how much better the Genesis version was :)
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Originally Posted by catabarez: View Post
Going into this thread I had no idea what to expect.
I was thinking the same lol.
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(08-06-2012, 10:14 PM)

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#49

Now that is fn awesome
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(08-07-2012, 12:41 AM)

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oh wow