Kagari
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Square Enix Posts Quarterly Net Loss of 2,077m yen, blames poor console game sales #1

http://andriasang.com/con25k/square_enix_loss/

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Square Enix earnings report for the first quarter reveals a net loss of 2,077 million yen. Last year, the company posted a 690 million yen profit for the same period.
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While sales of Dragon Quest Monsters Terry's Wonderland 3D on 3DS were strong, console game sales were weak. Final Fantasy Brigade on Mobage and Sengoku IXA for browsers posted favorable results.
PDF: https://www.release.tdnet.info/inbs/...0807092287.pdf
http://www.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/13q1release.pdf
http://www.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/13q1slides.pdf



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The advancement of networking and digitalization, and the diffusion of smartphones have triggered a fundamental change in the business environment surrounding the Group, where content delivery measures to customers and
business models are increasingly diversified. The Group views this change as an opportunity to capture new profit sources, and is making every effort to establish its profit base through expansion of content and services that conform to emerging customer needs, and launch of full-scale commercial services for major MMO titles.
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Napalm_Frank
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We need XIII-4 now!
markot
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FF 14b will save them.
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Small loss though. They have some good games coming up and FFXIII-3 lol.
Red Sutter
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Once Dragon Quest X gets rolling their profits will increase 5000%
Instro
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Time for some dirty WiiU ports.
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Bravely Default could become an awkward name if this keeps up...

;)
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Hitman will save them. Or kill them?
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time to officially cancel versus.
Seda
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FFVIIPC will save them
ShockingAlberto
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Gonna hit the launch button on KH HD Collection soon, I'm sure.
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Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
Time for some dirty WiiU ports.
Final Fantasy XIII trilogy Wii U confirmed?.

Believe
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Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto: View Post
Gonna hit the launch button on KH HD Collection soon, I'm sure.
For Wii U launch in Japan, followed by KH3 next Christmas.
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Originally Posted by StreetsAhead: View Post
For Wii U launch in Japan, followed by KH3 next Christmas.
Haha, it's cute you think we're getting KH3 this decade.
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I'd love to see how a numbered Final Fantasy would do on a Nintendo home console.
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I still don't know why they aren't remaking FF7. Not that I care much about it, and I know nothing about business, but still.
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Originally Posted by ShockingAlberto: View Post
Gonna hit the launch button on KH HD Collection soon, I'm sure.
Collection as in more than 1 game? Lets not get crazy now.
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Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
Time for some dirty WiiU ports.
I would welcome Kh 1&2 final mix with open arms. Sadly it'll probably never happen
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This doesn't seem like a huge loss. It's only like $25 million, but is it just made worse considering how strong the yen is?
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Would've been nice if they RELEASED something this last quarter... then they can complain. -_-"
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small loss especially compared to the strong earning last year.
Kagari
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(08-07-2012, 06:00 AM)

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Yeah, console ports on a system with a really low install base after launch will turn their fortunes around...
Pikma
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I promise to buy all of their upcoming games if, and only if, they announce Bravely Default's localization :3
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Originally Posted by Pikma: View Post
I promise to buy all of their upcoming games if, and only if, they announce Bravely Default's localization :3
Pretty sure this is in the cards. I'm hoping that the turn around for localization will be as timely as recent games.
Zefah
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Assuming they turn out good, I really hope Sleeping Dogs and Hitman turn out well for them. I'm interested in Bravely Default, too. Hopefully they offer it for downloadable purchase.
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Time to give us FFV and FFVI on the 3DS. Do it in the style of IV on the PSP please
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Originally Posted by Mr. Fix: View Post
I still don't know why they aren't remaking FF7. Not that I care much about it, and I know nothing about business, but still.
With not caring much about it, nor knowing anything about business, you're still 100% on the money.

I still don't get how there are such disconnects between what the gaming public would eat up as a whole and what's actually slated for release.
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Originally Posted by Kagari: View Post
Yeah, console ports on a system with a really low install base after launch will turn their fortunes around...
DQX is starting a trend of course. I mean, its not like any other their other console games are coming along anytime soon.
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Originally Posted by silkysmooth: View Post
Time to give us FFV and FFVI on the 3DS. Do it in the style of IV on the PSP please
Do it in the style of Theatrythym! Gaming nirvana will be attained.
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Originally Posted by Ninjimbo: View Post
Hitman will save them. Or kill them?
No, that's actually a game you can put out and assume safely that it will at least perform moderately. I hope they keep Eidos off their leash, because SE London has their shit together. The JP side is lost.
Kagari
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Originally Posted by Instro: View Post
DQX is starting a trend of course. I mean, its not like any other their other console games are coming along anytime soon.
One game isn't really a trend...
apana
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Surprised that we still haven't gotten final fantasy ports on 3DS. Seems like free cash.
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Originally Posted by Kagari: View Post
Yeah, console ports on a system with a really low install base after launch will turn their fortunes around...
well, several of them probably can help to some extent; FFX is on the way, KH will hit all the platforms, FFVII is going to be on PC; apparently DQM has performed quite good for them too and I suspect a mainline DQ remake for 3DS is on the way too.

However, I believe DQX will make them post profit for at least some quarters to come.
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Snuffing out the Final Fantasy brand appeal by releasing a third installment of FXIII should help immensely. Monetize it even further by using F2P design principles but charging the gamer full price admission! *Hugs his life size Vanille pillow*
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I hope Bravely Default is successful, it looks so rad. Their western games are all shaping up nicely as well really, although I'm not interested in Tomb Raider.

Originally Posted by Kagari: View Post
One game isn't really a trend...
I get the feeling that my bad jokes are being taken seriously.
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#36

square made like 3 current gen console games over the past 6 years (last remnant,ff13 and ff13-2) and then they blame poor console games sales?
vicissitudes
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Not enough FFXIII sequels.
Parakeetman
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One thing for sure is SQEX sure isnt the company it used to be. Perhaps they should look at the decisions made by the upper management rather than blaming sales. Since if your shit isnt selling then something is obviously wrong with your products and how you go about producing them.
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Maybe they should make some console games to sell.
Munkyface
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Originally Posted by BlueTsunami: View Post
Snuffing out the Final Fantasy brand appeal by releasing a third installment of FXIII should help immensely
Times like these that I wish there were a Like button on the GAFness.
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#41

I'm surprised SE still doesn't know how to tap the digital market with their classics.

I mean isn't FFVII the best selling PSone classic? Why can't they do like an HD release of Secret of Mana or Chaos Rings? I'm pretty sure a lot will bite. At least Sega benefitted from their Classics releases via the DD market.
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Originally Posted by Jigsaw: View Post
square made like 3 current gen console games over the past 6 years (last remnant,ff13 and ff13-2) and then they blame poor console games sales?
Their publishing efforts heavily outweigh their development efforts; even DQ games haven't been made internally at SE till DQX.
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Make some good games.
Inorigo
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Originally Posted by walking fiend: View Post
well, several of them probably can help to some extent; FFX is on the way, KH will hit all the platforms, FFVII is going to be on PC; apparently DQM has performed quite good for them too and I suspect a mainline DQ remake for 3DS is on the way too.

However, I believe DQX will make them post profit for at least some quarters to come.
Is X on the way? Because I know they said they started it, but honestly, if I don't see it by year's end, I'm putting it in the same boat as Versus. I want it. I want it badly, but it does not need to be a two-year thing.

KH is theoretical, as always.
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Originally Posted by ULTROS!: View Post
I'm surprised SE still doesn't know how to tap the digital market with their classics.

I mean isn't FFVII the best selling PSone classic? Why can't they do like an HD release of Secret of Mana or Chaos Rings? I'm pretty sure a lot will bite. At least Sega benefitted from their Classics releases via the DD market.
I wouldn't know what to do with an HD remake of Secret of Mana in much the same way that I wouldn't know what to do with a naked Kate Beckinsale waiting for me in bed.
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Lightning will save this company.

by lightning I mean cloud
walking fiend
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Originally Posted by Inorigo: View Post
Is X on the way? Because I know they said they started it, but honestly, if I don't see it by year's end, I'm putting it in the same boat as Versus. I want it. I want it badly, but it does not need to be a two-year thing.

KH is theoretical, as always.
well, X is barely an HD rendered version, so basically probably as much as effort as running the original on a PCSX emulator at HD resolution; so obviously it will come out.

KH HD is theoretical of course, however, considered that when 3rd mainline game comes [whenever it is], there will be a lot of time gap between it and the 2nd, it makes a lot of sense to put out an HD collection even if only to allow people who want to get into the franchise buy it in preparation of the 3rd; they may even include the BbS like the MGS HD collection.
Kagari
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(08-07-2012, 06:22 AM)

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Square has been the slowest to jump on the HD remasters bandwagon. It's been a year since FFX was announced and still nothing.
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Originally Posted by walking fiend: View Post
well, X is barely an HD rendered version, so basically probably as much as effort as running the original on a PCSX emulator at HD resolution; so obviously it will come out.
I hope they are replacing significant assets and redoing the CGI for FFX HD. That would explain why they're taking such a long time. I doubt it though; a simple remastering project should take no more than 8 months.
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They should probably start making more games that people give a shit about then.