[Napalm_Frank]

Square has been the slowest to jump on the HD remasters bandwagon. It's been a year since FFX was announced and still nothing.

Has there been any info when the development started? Or if it has started at all...

I'm still a little annoyed that its only 1 release when XII would benefit more from the upgrade. Throw in X-2 and we are on par with others :/.

[toastyToast]

It's been a year since FFX was announced and still nothing.

Maybe they forgot

[Instro]

Square has been the slowest to jump on the HD remasters bandwagon. It's been a year since FFX was announced and still nothing.

That's pretty bad really, although I wonder if the had even started on it back when it was announced.

[Dark Schala]

Wasn't FFX HD supposed to commemorate FFX's 10-year anniversary?

Isn't it, like, past that now? Last I heard it only recently started development.

[Kagari]

Has there been any info when the development started? Or if it has started at all... I'm still a little annoyed that its only 1 release when XII would benefit more from the upgrade. Throw in X-2 and we are on par with others :/.

If I were to make a guess. I don't think they had started yet when they announced it.

[Kagari]

Wasn't FFX HD supposed to commemorate FFX's 10-year anniversary? Isn't it, like, past that now? Last I heard it only recently started development.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5IhjqTiNM Yeah... 'a special 10th anniversary production.'

[AOC83]

Wasn't FFX HD supposed to commemorate FFX's 10-year anniversary? Isn't it, like, past that now? Last I heard it only recently started development.

I hate Square.

[Femmeworth]

They had a loss for the previous quarter too, right? Last fiscal year, obviously.

[M_Night]

FFXIV eating up all their munny.

[expel]

so 3 games that they announced for sony systems (versus, x hd n xiv if anyone care) has gone missing :p
dqx will help them next quarter for sure...eidos will save them tho...

[StoppedInTracks]

Don't care.

I'm patiently waiting for FFversus13 and FF13-3 which should be ready next year.

[CorvoSol]

That's what they get for having poor console games/ not putting anything out Square itself. Seriously, what do you expect other than poor console sales when you go to all these big gaming events and don't advertise anything?

Maybe if their console games were up to the snuff of their hand-helds.

Time to give us FFV and FFVI on the 3DS. Do it in the style of IV on the PSP please

Ewww, no, that stuff looks like RPG Maker.

[Jarmel]

So how bad did XIII-2 underperform? My understanding was that it was a straight up bomba for a FF title but they might have had reduced expectations.

[gembel]

users want FF and KH titles for consoles, we get crap eidos games

[Zen]

So how bad did XIII-2 underperform? My understanding was that it was a straight up bomba for a FF title but they might have had reduced expectations.

I think the numbers we did get showed a similar but reduced performance when compared to Final Fantasy X-2?

[nasos_333]

I thought FF13 did some unbelievable numbers, especially considering the game quality

I dont see how they expected to sell well after a game like that though, i doubt FF will return to good sales anytime soon

[Kagari]

So how bad did XIII-2 underperform? My understanding was that it was a straight up bomba for a FF title but they might have had reduced expectations.

Approximately 1.6 million sold through to consumers... 3.4 million shipped.

[sublimit]

All they need are a couple more XIII sequels.
Re-using assets + FF on the cover = Easy profit!

[M_Night]

Approximately 1.6 million sold through to consumers... 3.4 million shipped.

I thought...

Japan - 900k
NA - 500k
Asia - 200k
EU - Similar to NA?

[Conrad Link]

The only option left then is to add new Abyssea zones to FFXI.

[Kagari]

I thought... Japan - 900k NA - 500k Asia - 200k EU - Similar to NA?

Japan - 820K
US - 450K
Asia - 200K
EU - Unknown, but likely less than the US.

[nubbe]

I wan't Tomb Raider, Hitman and Just Cause 3... the Eidos games.

It feels like Squenix died to me after FFXIII... the old man need to go!

[ZombiePlatypus]

That's what happens when you string fans along, by creating spin-offs instead remakes and proper sequels that your demographic vocally asks for. All while putting out games that have a staggering dip in quality.

[choodi]

If they were being honest, the thread title would be this:

Square Enix Posts Quarterly Net Loss of 2,077m yen, blames poor console games

[markot]

Things are pretty bad when Eidos is the stronger part of the package.

[Coxy]

Approximately 1.6 million sold through to consumers... 3.4 million shipped.

ugh, 13-3 will have seperate exclusive preorder bonuses for every retailer to get them to even stock it

[Inorigo]

Square has been the slowest to jump on the HD remasters bandwagon. It's been a year since FFX was announced and still nothing.

^This is where my concern lies. They announced it last September, but told Famitsu in January they had only just started.

We should have had screens in October.

[michaelius]

I promise to buy all of their upcoming games if, and only if, they announce Bravely Default's localization :3

It's comming just after Type-0 release ;)

[ZombiePlatypus]

^This is where my concern lies. They announced it last September, but told Famitsu in January they had only just started. We should have had screens in October.

My hope is that they're cramming it with extras/enhancements so that it ends up as a beefy-up-port as opposed to just minimal facelift.

If I can be ridiculous, I'd want it to have:

• All the extras from FFX International
• A new dungeon
• 1 or 2 new optional bosses
• 2 brand new Aeons
• A handful of new sidequests that add more background and fleshout the overall plot, world or characters
• An extra Blitzball Online mode

Now the release of this game is just not gonna live up to expectations. :/

[Chuck Norris]

How can they blame poor console sales? They haven't even released anything on consoles, have they?

[Chuck Norris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5IhjqTiNM Yeah... 'a special 10th anniversary production.'

Mistranslation. What they actually said was that it would be released on the tenth anniversary of this event

[luca1980]

First: Se needs to improve the quality of its ports mobile. Fft was shitty as hell!
Second: it's time that they remake the psx gems. Not straight ports since 3d didn't age well yet power up and crystal clear textures on xenogears, vs, chrono cross and so on would be welcomed.
Third: where is team 4 working? Lending a hand on ff14?

[+Aliken+]

Time for some dirty WiiU ports.

Sleeping Dogs please.

[Mxrz]

Only FF15 can save them now. Hurry up already, Square.

[Toth]

That's what happens when you string fans along, by creating spin-offs instead remakes and proper sequels that your demographic vocally asks for. All while putting out games that have a staggering dip in quality.

What games have they put out in this time frame lol

Theatrythm is the only one that comes to mind.

[walking fiend]

Only FF15 can save them now. Hurry up already, Square.

A next gen game of a franchise in decline with a budget which will probably be some hundred millions will most probably only lead to several quarters of loss and a small profit after release

[leesmapman]

Looks like the prophecy was true: S-E shot themselves in the foot.

[Hindle]

Where is Thief? I'd have thought it would have been revealed by now.

[itxaka]

How much does the other developers that they have affect SE income?

I mean, like Eidos and such? I have a feeling that if they didn't expand in that way, they would be headed to extinction.

[Exentryk]

Yoichi Wada on revitalization of the Final Fantasy brand:

"For the revitalization of the FF brand, we decided not to shutdown FFXIV and to continue the services while adding improvements at the same time as rebuilding the game from scratch. As a result of the decision we made, it was inevitable to move the resources within the HD game to FFXIV and new title releases have suffered for 2 to 3 years."


Blame FFXIV. I want my Versus, naoo! >.<

[_Keiichi_]

Wasn't FFX HD supposed to commemorate FFX's 10-year anniversary? Isn't it, like, past that now? Last I heard it only recently started development.

Don't worry, judging by Square Enix past standards, they'll release it for the 20-years anniversary (but only to fuck up at the last minute and actually release it for the 19-years anniversary).

[ElTopo]

How much does the other developers that they have affect SE income? I mean, like Eidos and such? I have a feeling that if they didn't expand in that way, they would be headed to extinction.

Which publisher isn't headed to extinction ? You could say the same about many Western publishers, in all honesty my initial impression is that the financials of Japanese publishers - despite hiccups - are more stable, despite all the (enormous) problems they've had. It's probably because most of them are not solely focussed on console games, but instead have tried to diversify their product line.

[Mxrz]

A next gen game of a franchise in decline with a budget which will probably be some hundred millions will most probably only lead to several quarters of loss and a small profit after release

No.

[luca1980]

A next gen game of a franchise in decline with a budget which will probably be some hundred millions will most probably only lead to several quarters of loss and a small profit after release

Probably they are working on it from 3/5 years yet

[Drkirby]

Oh, its just Quarterly Losses. I was looking at the 12 Month info for a good 5 minutes, trying to figure out where the losses were. Company really needs to do something with its console game production.

I think the company needs to try and make some lower budget quirky games for consoles, like they have been doing for years with portables.

And a bit unrelated, but I am still surprised they have not started porting more of their back catalog to the PC, when they seem to have no problem doing it for mobile OSes.

[Box of Bunnies]

Square has been the slowest to jump on the HD remasters bandwagon. It's been a year since FFX was announced and still nothing.

Takes time to accurately render and layer all the belts in Lulu's dress.

[Error]

the eidos buy is their best business move in ages, it's what keeping them afloat and relevant these days.

they killed KH with all those games, why not fucking release KH3 on PS3/360 and be done with it? it's what people want, instead nope make way for all these handheld games. I'm baffled at how they handled that franchise.

the mismanagement has expended to DQ, too. Making it a MMORPG was just a terrible move.

and final fantasy I don't think it's even relevant at this point. 13-3? lol... Where's Versus? or a Kitase-less mainline FF game?

[Impeccable]

The only way to save Square Enix is to release more Vita games.

[Chev]

they killed KH with all those games, why not fucking release KH3 on PS3/360 and be done with it? it's what people want, instead nope make way for all these handheld games. I'm baffled at how they handled that franchise.

KH is consistently profitable, these days due precisely to all the handheld spinoffs, for which they can continue to either recycle assets (re:coded for example was majorly composed of the 358/2 dataset, itself directly getting its animation set from KH and KH2 though the models had to be reworked) or at least avoid HD budgets (BBS, 3D). KH3 would require them to get out of the Versus sinkhole and start a new HD project. They can't just "be done with it" because they haven't even figured out how to be done with Versus yet.

[H_Prestige]

Then stop releasing poor console games you dumb fucks.