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(08-07-2012, 10:33 AM)

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LTTP: Mortal Kombat: Komplete Edition #1

I have to say the latest mortal kombat game has really surprised me, I got the komplete edition for 15 bucks and I've been playing it for this past week...

First of all none of the jankiness and shitty mechanics of the old ones is present here. game is 2.5d looks great, runs at 60fps and the battle mechanics are easy enough to grasp while being a bit harder to master just like fighting games should be. what I like the most is how easy it is to peform the special moves even a regular ps3 dpad, the controls are very tight.

the sp player content is staggering for a fighting game, make other barebones fighting games look silly. all in all colour me completely suprised by this game. The last MK I bought was MK3 snes, the ones after that were complete shit. 4 was janky as fuck and the others introduced baffling mechanics like weapons and different battle stances none of which were any compelling at all. this one goes back to basics, and to me is the best MK ever, and one of the best fighting games I've ever played. the last fighting game I had this much fun was tekken 3. It might not have the intricacies or depth of SF4 but the game is just fun to play even in SP, something most fighting games don't achieve.

I'm really looking forward to the DC fighting game by this studio after playing this game.
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"Komplete Edition"...

Apdiddy
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Whatever you do, get the PS3 version. I find that Mortal Kombat doesn't work at all with a Xbox 360 controller.
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Originally Posted by Apdiddy: View Post
Whatever you do, get the PS3 version. I find that Mortal Kombat doesn't work at all with a Xbox 360 controller.
that's the version I got, my 360 died a couple of years ago and I only have a ps3 now.
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Originally Posted by Apdiddy: View Post
Whatever you do, get the PS3 version. I find that Mortal Kombat doesn't work at all with a Xbox 360 controller.
Fighting games shouldn't be played with control pads anyway. Same for SHMUPs.

Get a real arcade stick for the XB360 (or whatever console) and play them as they are meant to be played.
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(08-07-2012, 11:18 AM)

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I have the Vita version. Aside from the downgraded graphics, it's a great game. I don't usually play fighters but I've been really getting into the story mode. Fun times.
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I've been enjoying a RENEWED INTEREST in this ever since I got the Vita verion.

I pretty heavily played the 360 version with the odd match with some friends now and then as well. It's an awesome, great and well put together fighting game.

I honestly wish they could continue with the series and go straight into a reboot of MK2 assuming they would continue that route, but they are working in Injustice instead.

Which is really how I feel about the whole decision =P
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(08-07-2012, 11:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Vitacat: View Post
Fighting games shouldn't be played with control pads anyway. Same for SHMUPs.

Get a real arcade stick for the XB360 (or whatever console) and play them as they are meant to be played.
Unless you're playing them at a competitive level who gives a sh*t really?
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I was never really one for Mortal Kombat but got the Vita version of this and was converted. Lots of fun and so much single player content.
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Originally Posted by Gokurakumaru: View Post
Unless you're playing them at a competitive level who gives a sh*t really?
I don't play competitively and still use an arcade stick. It's so much better and more responsive.
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(08-07-2012, 11:40 AM)

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This was most definitely the game that got me BACK into the fighting scene. I love it.
Gokurakumaru
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(08-07-2012, 11:43 AM)
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Originally Posted by Roland Deschain: View Post
I don't play competitively and still use an arcade stick. It's so much better and more responsive.
Respect to you for not coming in here just to crap on the opening post. Unlike the other guy.
@MUWANdo
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Originally Posted by Nemesis_: View Post
I honestly wish they could continue with the series and go straight into a reboot of MK2 assuming they would continue that route, but they are working in Injustice instead.
They can't really reboot MK2; MK9 covers the events from the first three games, so unless Raiden pulls some more Marty McFly shit it's already done.

If you're really invested in the story then there's always MK: Shaolin Monks which is a beat-em-up reimagining of MK2.
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Originally Posted by @MUWANdo: View Post
They can't really reboot MK2; MK9 covers the events from the first three games, so unless Raiden pulls some more Marty McFly shit it's already done.

If you're really invested in the story then there's always MK: Shaolin Monks which is a beat-em-up reimagining of MK2.
Oh, you have a point. I don't know why I thought otherwise. Maybe I was getting confused.

Well a reboot of MK4 onwards would be nice.....right? Or is everyone opposed to that too lol.

I have played Shaolin Monks TOO MANY TIMES. An XBL or PSN port of that needs to happen.
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(08-07-2012, 11:48 AM)

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I was watching vids of old MK games like 4 and Deception, wow those games were shit.

The endings in MK4 are amazingly hilarious though, I give the game that.
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I love it, been playing it on and off since it came out.

The story mode is great, all the characters I love are there... I pretty much missed the original transition to 3D (Trilogy was my last major involvement) and all the PS2 era games, so I don't miss all those extra weird characters at all.
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(08-07-2012, 11:59 AM)

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Originally Posted by lastplayed: View Post
I love it, been playing it on and off since it came out.

The story mode is great, all the characters I love are there... I pretty much missed the original transition to 3D (Trilogy was my last major involvement) and all the PS2 era games, so I don't miss all those extra weird characters at all.
me neither, the characters from 1-3 are the best anyway.
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Originally Posted by lastplayed: View Post
I love it, been playing it on and off since it came out.

The story mode is great, all the characters I love are there... I pretty much missed the original transition to 3D (Trilogy was my last major involvement) and all the PS2 era games, so I don't miss all those extra weird characters at all.
Trust me, no-one does. You can count the number of interesting post-MK3 characters on one hand, and the only really good ones (Quan Chi and Kenshi) showed up in MK9 anyway. Some of the new characters are really terrible; I heard they were designed by the guy who did Bloodstorm, which wouldn't surprise me at all.



Originally Posted by Nemesis_: View Post
Oh, you have a point. I don't know why I thought otherwise. Maybe I was getting confused.

Well a reboot of MK4 onwards would be nice.....right? Or is everyone opposed to that too lol.

I have played Shaolin Monks TOO MANY TIMES. An XBL or PSN port of that needs to happen.
A direct sequel to MK9 would double as a MK4 reboot, and given that MK9 ends on a cliffhanger of sorts (pretty much everyone is dead and/or controlled by Quan Chi and Shinnok) a sequel seems inevitable.
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Originally Posted by Gokurakumaru: View Post
Unless you're playing them at a competitive level who gives a sh*t really?
It doesn't even make a difference at a competitive level. It's all about personal preference.
Pad warriors have been tearing up tourneys for ages, arcade sticks being better by default is a myth.
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Originally Posted by Gokurakumaru: View Post
Unless you're playing them at a competitive level who gives a sh*t really?

I do play this game at the highest competitive level and no one gives a shit.

It's 2012, stick elitism is over. It's especially silly for MK9's controls.
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Are there many online players? I'm thinking of getting it, late to the party indeed...
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lol at stick elitists in this thread. MK9's like the easiest game to play on a pad. Pretty sure there are even players who specifically play MK9 with a pad, and other games with a stick.
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Originally Posted by Osu 16 Bit: View Post
I do play this game at the highest competitive level and no one gives a shit.

It's 2012, stick elitism is over. It's especially silly for MK9's controls.
Especially because MK9 isn't an arcade game and was clearly designed with pads in mind (though an arcade stick will work as well).
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Originally Posted by Vitacat: View Post
Fighting games shouldn't be played with control pads anyway. Same for SHMUPs.

Get a real arcade stick for the XB360 (or whatever console) and play them as they are meant to be played.
I play it on my Vita and it plays perfectly. What you talking about, bra?
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Game was for $20 up until yesterday at Gamestop (alng the Vita version for $10).

Online pass was also eliminated months ago and the Komplete Edition included a code to download the first movie and the new/Songs Inspired by... soundtrack.

Overall, is my favorite MK game and fighting game (just bought it on Vita a few days ago); though I'm biased. :p
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Originally Posted by Gokurakumaru: View Post
Unless you're playing them at a competitive level who gives a sh*t really?
I'm faaaaar from a competitive player, but I find the 360 controller almost completely unusable for fighting games.
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Originally Posted by Apdiddy: View Post
Whatever you do, get the PS3 version. I find that Mortal Kombat doesn't work at all with a Xbox 360 controller.
Worked fine for me on 360.

Only fighting game this generation where I felt in control of my character at all times.
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recently got the vita version and am loving it. I also havn't played one since 3. The story mode was brilliant and all fighters should have a mode like this. Started the tower which is good fun. Vita version has 2 towers so might take a while.... also havnt touched the standard arcade mode or online yet...... so much kontent.
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Originally Posted by Vitacat: View Post
Fighting games shouldn't be played with control pads anyway. Same for SHMUPs.

Get a real arcade stick for the XB360 (or whatever console) and play them as they are meant to be played.
Games released directly for consoles probably shouldn't be designed to be played on arcade sticks in the first place.

Sure, arcade sticks are one of the few things one can try to market to more devoted fighting game players, compared to all other competitive games native to the PC, for example (where the variety of hardware that can be marketed expands a bit more), but it's a bit sad to see people treating it like it's the only way to play right.


I'd be all for more different looking controllers that would let you use more fingers freely (like a couple of button in the back of a pad, instead of just the front and shoulder ones), or even gave you more freedom with the placement of your hands and wrists (something like the Wii's nunchuk setup that lets your hands be as together or apart as you're comfortable with - one half of the command for direction and the other for buttons might work...) - heck, I'd pitch in for a Kickstarter project that tried to do something like this, especially if the directional side of the controller used a NeoGeo-Pocket-like button.


Sadly, the controller business has only gone as far as doing all-button joysticks, which are kinda ridiculously huge, even if they feel more precise than a joystick, at least.


As for Komplete MK, I'm certainly curious, but I'm yet to see a copy as cheap as the OP's - when I do, can't wait to see if that story mode stands up to its reputation, and how they've handled Kratos' usually huge attack range in his own series in the MK system (note to self, check how he plays in the PSP Soul Calibur too).
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i'm in no way a MP kind of guy. can you elaborate on the SP experience. sounds interesting.
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Originally Posted by heckmanimation: View Post
i'm in no way a MP kind of guy. can you elaborate on the SP experience. sounds interesting.
Is a 6-10 hours Story Mode.
Basically a retelling of the events of the original games; but with some retcons.
Gameplay-wise is cutscne-fight-cutscene-fight (with well done/smooth transitions).

Sounds "lame", but is quite aweosme actually.

Here's the intro and part of the first chapter.

There's also a Challenge Tower, were you're giving 300 challenges (i.e. kill zombies using projectiles, beat the opponent with no arms, avoid Mileena's teddy bear.. :p).

There's the classic Test your Might (push the buttons to destroy a peice of wood, rock, diamond), along Test your Sight (chooce the correct pot) and Test your Strike (hit an item at the right time).
There's also a Test your Luck on which is a traditional match, but each slot choose different variants for the match (half life, weaken, colorful blood, no head, no arms, zombie look, electrified arena, etc.) [This one can also be played multi]

There's also the traditional Ladder Mode (choose a fighter, beat a few leading to the sub-boss/boss, then see his/her ending).

You also earn coins by playing the game, which yo uuse to unlock artwork, costumes, etc.).
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Originally Posted by Lost Fragment: View Post
lol at stick elitists in this thread. MK9's like the easiest game to play on a pad. Pretty sure there are even players who specifically play MK9 with a pad, and other games with a stick.
MK9 is one of those games that feels really comfortable on either stick or pad. The pad hate on here is really strange. Especially considering that there's a huge group of MK players that use pad exclusively. Heck, UMK3 had a ton of pad players too.
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Originally Posted by Vitacat: View Post
Fighting games shouldn't be played with control pads anyway. Same for SHMUPs.

Get a real arcade stick for the XB360 (or whatever console) and play them as they are meant to be played.
PS3 pad is viable for every fighting game, especially one with easy inputs/combos like MK. Don't talk shit on the pad warriors mang.
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You don't have to use a stick...but fight pads are worth picking up if you play fighting games.
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Originally Posted by TurkishEmperor: View Post
Are there many online players? I'm thinking of getting it, late to the party indeed...
I'd like to know this as well. Trying to decide between this and Persona.
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I heard the Komplete edition doesn't have an online pass, is this true? But how does that work for vanilla MK, does that still need a pass?
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I bought the ps vita version and its awesome. It doesn't have an online pass either.
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Originally Posted by BHK3: View Post
I heard the Komplete edition doesn't have an online pass, is this true? But how does that work for vanilla MK, does that still need a pass?
Online Pass was eliminated across all versions. ;)
jgkspsx
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(08-09-2012, 06:17 AM)
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Hey, me too. I was a big fan of MK2 and to a lesser extent MK1 but never cared for MK3 because it felt too rococo. I went back to all three in the Klassic Kollection or whatever it was called on XBLA and they just weren't fun. Granted, I wasn't a teenager surrounded by friends.

But this game is what we saw in MK2 back then. It wasn't there then, but the fidelity of this to the classic feel of the game despite all the additions is amazing.

And bless their hearts for basing the story mode around the movie. I've always thought that first movie was underrated. It's on a level with Highlander to me: incredibly dumb in many ways, but redeemed in many more.

Other than me sucking due to not seriously playing fighters for 14 years, story mode is pretty much what I've always wanted out of a console fighting game.

P.S. The X-ray attacks are hard to take. Maybe even worse than the fatalities. But they are very impressive.
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Though, the Story Mode is not based on the movie; but more of retelling the original cannon of the games..and throwing a few new things/changes. The campiness is just part of it (see Mortal Kombat - Shaolin Monks on PS2/Xbox also). :p

But mostly everything was already told in the original games (the tournament in the island of the first game, the tournament in Outworld in MKII and the invasion to the Earth through the "loophole" in MK3).

****

Good to see more people enjoying the game. :)
Season 2 of Legacy is coming next year...and the new movie is expected around next year too. At the same time, I'd say 2014 more likely since I doubt WB will release a new MK movie, while promoting the new DC-fighting game.
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indeed, game is extremely playable on a normal pad because there no special moves inputs that were clearly designed with an arcade stick in mind. for instance there are no quarter circle motion inputs for special moves. the inputs are very simple actually, they mostly involve two different directions on the dpad and a button press for a special move. the designers kept it simple and that's why it works.

i like how brutal the x-rays moves are. it's violent as fuck, but it's mortal kombat it should be violent.

the character model damage during fight is an awesome touch too, at the end of the fights they are covered in blood and multiple bruises like they've been in the fight of their lives. doesn't add anything but it's a really nice feature anyway.
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jgkspsx
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Also, the tower of challenges and the tutorial are great at making me feel slightly less troglodytic.

Originally Posted by fernoca: View Post
Though, the Story Mode is not based on the movie; but more of retelling the original cannon of the games..and throwing a few new things/changes. The campiness is just part of it (see Mortal Kombat - Shaolin Monks on PS2/Xbox also). :p
The movie came out early enough that it probably influenced the story of later games. There really wasn't much of a story in the first two games, and the sense of humor was more NBA Jamish ridiculous.
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I just bought this 2 days ago. It was 20$ sale at gamestop.
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Yep this game is awesome. If I was going to play it at tournaments there are so many things that would bug me about it, but for playing at home it's really damn fun. It does make me wish other fighters had an actual story mode anywhere near that fleshed out. I kinda want to learn all the story mode characters inside out and record a full playthrough of it, so far I can use Johnny Cage and Sonya pretty well. But then you get to Scorpion and he doesn't seem anywhere near as fun as Cage and Sonya... Actually are there any good Scorpion players still around?
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Does Komplete edition still require an online pass?
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Trust me, no-one does. You can count the number of interesting post-MK3 characters on one hand, and the only really good ones (Quan Chi and Kenshi) showed up in MK9 anyway. Some of the new characters are really terrible; I heard they were designed by the guy who did Bloodstorm, which wouldn't surprise me at all.
Well I haven't played much of the 3D games(sans4), looking at the MK wiki, I think a few of the characters are salvageable. They managed to make Quan Chi and Stryker awesome in 9, and they were two of the most hated characters in the series.

Tanya-My favorite character from 4, I want her to return.
Havik- Has a weird as fuck move set as he's some kind of bone zombie dude, would have really cool animations.
Kai- If they played up his kick attacks and made him the token capoeira fighter, instead of just black liu kang.
Boraicho- Make him a proper drunken fist fighter, plus the game could use more size diversity.
Mavado- He would be a lot better in a 2D game as his grappling hooks would become way more useful.
Frost- Were currently out two sub-zeros at the moment.
Kira- She inoffensive, she seems to be a mix between sonya and kano, that's fine I guess.
Sareena- she looks cool, but skarlet is kind of a better version of her.
Fujin- Wind powers are awesome, would need a heavy redesign though.
Reiko- Playable Shao Khan.

The rest of the cast has like no redeeming qualities though.

Quote:
Yep this game is awesome. If I was going to play it at tournaments there are so many things that would bug me about it, but for playing at home it's really damn fun. It does make me wish other fighters had an actual story mode anywhere near that fleshed out. I kinda want to learn all the story mode characters inside out and record a full playthrough of it, so far I can use Johnny Cage and Sonya pretty well. But then you get to Scorpion and he doesn't seem anywhere near as fun as Cage and Sonya... Actually are there any good Scorpion players still around?
Not a lot, mostly just Slips and MIT
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jgkspsx
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"What's Raiden got that I haven't got?"
"Godlike power?"
"A personality that is not at all like sanding paper?"

The story is pretty awesome. It's a movie unto itself.
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Originally Posted by Tylahedras: View Post
Does Komplete edition still require an online pass?
The online pass has been completely removed for all versions of the game. Once they stopped supporting the game with new DLC/patches they dropped the pass.

Originally Posted by Khezu: View Post
Well I haven't played much of the 3D games(sans4), looking at the MK wiki, I think a few of the characters are salvageable. They managed to make Quan Chi and Stryker awesome in 9, and they were two of the most hated characters in the series.

Tanya-My favorite character from 4, I want her to return.
Havik- Has a weird as fuck move set as he's some kind of bone zombie dude, would have really cool animations.
Kai- If they played up his kick attacks and made him the token capoeira fighter, instead of just black liu kang.
Boraicho- Make him a proper drunken fist fighter, plus the game could use more size diversity.
Mavado- He would be a lot better in a 2D game as his grappling hooks would become way more useful.
Frost- Were currently out two sub-zeros at the moment.
Kira- She inoffensive, she seems to be a mix between sonya and kano, that's fine I guess.
Sareena- she looks cool, but skarlet is kind of a better version of her.
Fujin- Wind powers are awesome, would need a heavy redesign though.
Reiko- Playable Shao Khan.

The rest of the cast has like no redeeming qualities though.
I think you are being very, very generous in describing those characters as "good". I had to look most of them up just to remember who they were.

As for Quan Chi, I think he's the only post-MK3 people didn't hate (aside from the neck-stretch fatality).
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I think you are being very, very generous in describing those characters as "good". I had to look most of them up just to remember who they were.

As for Quan Chi, I think he's the only post-MK3 people didn't hate (aside from the neck-stretch fatality).
Oh I'm not saying there good, just that there not beyond saving, unlike the other half of the 3D cast, like darius or jarrek, and a bunch of weird generic bald dudes. With some costume redesigns and fleshing out there movesets, I think they would be alright.

Then again they may just say fuck it and create a bunch of new characters.
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I'm LTTP on MK9 myself, but the same thing that happened last year happened to me this year...I came home to catch some EVO during my lunch and got caught up in the MK9 finals. These sets always looked super intense and both years a lot of cast got used. My recent obsession with Injustice: Gods Among Us has pushed me pretty over the edge on going in on MK9 even though my final semester would basically mean the game would sit on the shelf until I managed to finish up and find work.

I want in though. The game looks good in its footsies and in pacing during the matches. From what I've looked up online and from my past experience with the MK series in general I used to play
  • Smoke
  • Ermac
  • Rain
  • Kabal
  • Cyrax
  • Sektor
  • Johnny Cage

I really dig the look of Smoke and Ermac's combos in MK9 so I'll likely try them first. It looks like Kabal is top tier which gives me mixed feelings because he was my favorite guy in the last MK I ever got into as a kid. I like him still, but playing top tier always makes me feel cheap like a fraud if I use those characters.

I'll have to readjust to using a button for blocking in this game I guess, but one question really eats at me. This game has tag mode...does anyone use it for tournies? Is it good? I like tag fighters is why.