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#151

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They don't need to establish Superman, Batman or Wonder Woman IMO. They are universally known characters. The only character in the Marvel Universe movies that was universally known was the Hulk. The rest were not household names.
This would be the absolute worst way to launch a JL movie.

You don't just fucking assume people know who anyone besides Superman and Batman are and expect them to go see a movie with them and some random other people in it.

If they want to do JL properly it's going to take them years of rebooting every existing movie franchise they have.
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#152

Originally Posted by Fezan: View Post
wow what is this it is beautiful
That would be Wonder Woman's ass
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Originally Posted by Fezan: View Post
wow what is this it is beautiful
DCNU JLA, they tried to recruit Martian Manhunter, he turned down their offer. I wouldn't join them either, everybody is an asshole.
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#154

Originally Posted by y2dvd: View Post
How did JLA form anyways? Were they brought together by some agency?
The animated version is similar to The Avengers in that there's an alien threat. It's loosely based on New Frontier.

The Avengers sort of put them in a corner. It might be good in the end, since they might try something different than the conventional approach.
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#155

Originally Posted by Linkzg: View Post
The animated version is similar to The Avengers in that there's an alien threat. It's loosely based on New Frontier.

The Avengers sort of put them in a corner. It might be good in the end, since they might try something different than the conventional approach.
I was just coming to post.. that New Frontier would be an interesting starting point for an origin film.

It has it's weird moments, but it does have a central focus and give all characters a moment to shine.
And you get a big movie style climax with the island and its creatures.

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#156

no.

goddammit. can we get a competent geek? Maybe someone with autism or something? Or an emotional genius with his finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist?

Not just someone who happens to be on deck and needs a movie project to stay current. Unless you like watching shitty movies. This is supposed to be art, not clocking in for a day at the office.
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#157

He's been proving himself to be pretty good so far. I'd be completely ok with this, as long as Affleck's friend and comic geek Kevin Smith were somehow attached.
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#158

Originally Posted by Ninja Scooter: View Post
Affleck is actually a good director, going by Gone baby gone and The Town. I mean I know it's funny because he's Ben Affleck but is it any crazier than the chubby guy from Swingers directing Iron Man? The stange thing is the tone of Affleck's movies is gritty and realistic. Could they be planning on continuing the Nolan verse and Man of Steel style into Justice League? How ballsy (or dumb?) would it be to have JGL/Blake as Batman in this movie? Warning DKR spoiler do not click

Anyway, the key for this is going to be the script. Affleck is a competent enough director if the script is good.
I don't know if he could pull it off, but it makes perfect sense after DKR. After seeing it, I immediately thought it could be used as a setup for Justice League... Anyone will have an uphill battle with Bale being known as Batman, but JGL is credible now since his foundation was set in DKR.
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#159

Originally Posted by akira28: View Post
no.

goddammit. can we get a competent geek? Maybe someone with autism or something? Or an emotional genius with his finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist?

Not just someone who happens to be on deck and needs a movie project to stay current. Unless you like watching shitty movies. This is supposed to be art, not clocking in for a day at the office.
Affleck was the bomb in Phantoms.
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#160

If we're talking wet dream, here's how I'd do it:

Superman: The Last Son of Krypton - Basically just rip off Superman TAS Season 1's pilots and Brainiac episode.
Batman: Year One - Self Explanatory, but with a hit of Joker, Justice Society, metahumans
The Flash - Need his own movie, no explanation needed.
Regals - Light house keeper adopted baby Aquaman. Aquaman grew up, went after a villain ended up in Themyscira.
Emerald Warriors - Millionaire Oliver Queen visit Ferris Aircraft

World's Finest - Superman/Batman fought Intergang, backed by unknown benefactor leading up to...

JLA - Shit hits the fan, Martian Manhunter introduced. Dark Seid arrives.
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#161

Originally Posted by Hero: View Post
This would be the absolute worst way to launch a JL movie.

You don't just fucking assume people know who anyone besides Superman and Batman are and expect them to go see a movie with them and some random other people in it.

If they want to do JL properly it's going to take them years of rebooting every existing movie franchise they have.
Eh, is it really necessary to setup Justice League with a bunch of average to mediocre superhero flicks? If the movie fails, I doubt it'll be because of this. Batman and Superman alone should carry more weight than the Avengers crew.

When I look at it, there's actually not much rebooting that needs to be done. Batman's set, and Man of Steel is coming. I'd just do a Flash movie, establish a new Wonder Woman, and jump right in. Green Lantern and Aquaman can debut in the film.
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#162

Originally Posted by akira28: View Post
no.

goddammit. can we get a competent geek? Maybe someone with autism or something? Or an emotional genius with his finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist?

Not just someone who happens to be on deck and needs a movie project to stay current. Unless you like watching shitty movies. This is supposed to be art, not clocking in for a day at the office.
Shut up.

All the films Affleck has directed are fantastic, and better than 90% of the currently existing comic book films.

If he decided to take this job, and he directed it as well as everything he's done so far, it'll be up there in the upper echelon of comic book flicks.
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#163

Originally Posted by Penguin: View Post
I was just coming to post.. that New Frontier would be an interesting starting point for an origin film.

It has it's weird moments, but it does have a central focus and give all characters a moment to shine.
And you get a big movie style climax with the island and its creatures.

Batman looks so salty.
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#164

It's a given that this would tight into Man of Steel, right?
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#165

Originally Posted by Talon-: View Post
Batman looks so salty.
He is a bit salty in the movie

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#166

I don't know why they don't just start with a Batman/Superman crossover first. Cheaper, easier to establish, and probably would make as much as TDK.
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#167

It really shouldn't take that long to establish the JL members. Ironman 2 came out in 2010, Thor and Captain America in 2011, and the new Hulk was introduced in Avengers.
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#168

Originally Posted by thekad: View Post
It really shouldn't take that long to establish the JL members. Ironman 2 came out in 2010, Thor and Captain America in 2011, and the new Hulk was introduced in Avengers.
Are you dissing Edward Norton?
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#169

Originally Posted by LeBrick James: View Post
Eh, is it really necessary to setup Justice League with a bunch of average to mediocre superhero flicks? If the movie fails, I doubt it'll be because of this. Batman and Superman alone should carry more weight than the Avengers crew.

When I look at it, there's actually not much rebooting that needs to be done. Batman's set, and Man of Steel is coming. I'd just do a Flash movie, establish a new Wonder Woman, and jump right in. Green Lantern and Aquaman can debut in the film.
that's the laziest shit way to ripoff the Avengers train though.

Avengers was the huge event after years of buildup from the first Iron Man. I doubt people would have even given a damn about a Thor movie if it weren't already known to tie into the Avengers stuff, which was crucial given what they took from that for Avengers.

It would be funny to see WB fuck something up badly right after coming off the nolan trilogy.
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#170

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I'm kinda confused -- don't they need to like, establish these characters before throwing them all in a movie together?
Been saying this for a long ass time.
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#171

whatever they do they will never be able to top the JL/JLU series.
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#172

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#173

Originally Posted by border: View Post
I'm kinda confused -- don't they need to like, establish these characters before throwing them all in a movie together?
Lol no
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#174

Originally Posted by Talon-: View Post
Batman looks so salty.
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#175

Originally Posted by akira28: View Post
no.

goddammit. can we get a competent geek? Maybe someone with autism or something? Or an emotional genius with his finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist?

Not just someone who happens to be on deck and needs a movie project to stay current. Unless you like watching shitty movies. This is supposed to be art, not clocking in for a day at the office.
Are you for real?
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#176

Originally Posted by Speedymanic: View Post
Nah, supes, bats and wonder woman are all well known characters.
In the US maybe, but I don't think most people in Europe have a clue about who Wonder Woman is (I don't).
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Unless I see evidence to the contrary, this movie will fail spectacularly. And possibly putting it up against Avengers 2 if it's made?

There aren't enough lols in the world.
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#179

Originally Posted by LeBrick James: View Post
Eh, is it really necessary to setup Justice League with a bunch of average to mediocre superhero flicks? If the movie fails, I doubt it'll be because of this. Batman and Superman alone should carry more weight than the Avengers crew.

When I look at it, there's actually not much rebooting that needs to be done. Batman's set, and Man of Steel is coming. I'd just do a Flash movie, establish a new Wonder Woman, and jump right in. Green Lantern and Aquaman can debut in the film.
Considering both Superman Returns and Green Lantern bombed, yes. You think people will care about a superhero team movie when they didn't even care for their own self contained movies?
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#180

Originally Posted by Talon-: View Post
Batman looks so salty.
"Why don't I get to be in the front? No one puts Batsy in the corner."
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#181

Originally Posted by border: View Post
I'm kinda confused -- don't they need to like, establish these characters before throwing them all in a movie together?
No, give me one amazing ensemble movie and then give each hero their own separate movie. And then end it with one more amazing ensemble movie. Marvel's movies blew hard besides Iron Man and The Avengers, so I don't want to have to wait through 4 potentially terrible movies before I get the only movie I am looking forward to.

Just give me the Justice League, and then throw the individual superhero movies at us, please.
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#182

I would much rather the Heroes of the DC Movie Universe exist in their own respective universes. Green Lantern has his, Batman has his and Superman has his etc. Let Marvel be the fun, comic booky movie company. No point in DC trying to emulate it after establishing just how good the Batman films were on their own.
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i'm ok with this, just no kevin smith he's box office poison. Love fatman with batman podcast tho
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Wow, never expected this.

Interesting choice. I loved The Town. But what kind of tone will the JL movie have?

Hmmm...
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#185

Originally Posted by akira28: View Post
no.

goddammit. can we get a competent geek? Maybe someone with autism or something? Or an emotional genius with his finger on the pulse of the zeitgeist?

Not just someone who happens to be on deck and needs a movie project to stay current. Unless you like watching shitty movies. This is supposed to be art, not clocking in for a day at the office.
wat
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#186

Originally Posted by The Mana Legend: View Post
Just give me the Justice League, and then throw the individual superhero movies at us, please.
I want this too, to be honest. Everyone is so insistent DC copy the Marvel method, but why? It's a team movie. You don't need to know every aspect of the characters for it to work: just their powers and how they interact with each other.
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#187

Originally Posted by DoctorWho: View Post
Affleck is a good choice but I'm mixed on Smith these days. He needs to distance himself from the fandom and start focusing on his work.
Smith is pretty tight with Affleck when it comes to Affleck's own movies. He helped Affleck edit all of his his movies so far before they release. He said he saw 15 cuts of The Town before it was in the can. No doubt Smith would have his hand in this in a un-credited manner due to his comic fanboyism and close relationship with Affleck.
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#188

Originally Posted by ReiGun: View Post
I want this too, to be honest. Everyone is so insistent DC copy the Marvel method, but why? It's a team movie. You don't need to know every aspect of the characters for it to work: just their powers and how they interact with each other.
Yes, especially since we've seen Batman, Superman, and Green Lantern. Maybe give as a Flash movie, and maybe a Wonder Woman movie, and that would be it.

And The Town actually reminded me a lot of The Dark Knight in some ways, specifically the action and the heist parts and stuff. So I have no doubt, if DC decides to model all its future movies on the Nolan films, that Affleck could pull off the style of the Nolan films.
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#189

Originally Posted by The Mana Legend: View Post
Yes, especially since we've seen Batman, Superman, and Green Lantern. Maybe give as a Flash movie, and maybe a Wonder Woman movie, and that would be it.

And The Town actually reminded me a lot of The Dark Knight in some ways, specifically the action and the heist parts and stuff. So I have no doubt, if DC decides to model all its future movies on the Nolan films, that Affleck could pull off the style of the Nolan films.
Yeah, The Town and TDK were both HUGELY influenced by Michael Mann's Heat.
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#190

Originally Posted by HoodWinked: View Post
ben affleck is not a good choice, for directing.

i really like the town and what i've seen for argo. but affleck's good films are ones that are void of special effects.

his worst movies daredevil and Armageddon.

best films Gigli and the town.
You can't really compare 2 films ben affleck directed that were good, to two movies with special effects he didn't direct and only acted in. I would be curious to see how this turns out. He's proven himself to be good director. If he were to put himself in the movie, though I would hope its just a bit part like jon favraue does, and not one of the heroes.
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#191

Originally Posted by Hero: View Post
Considering both Superman Returns and Green Lantern bombed, yes. You think people will care about a superhero team movie when they didn't even care for their own self contained movies?
Superman Returns was boring, and Green Lantern sucked. That's why they didn't do so well. Even still, Superman Returns wasn't a total disaster, and Man of Steel will surely do a lot better.

Still though, assuming Man of Steel does well, I think a decent Flash and/or Wonder Woman movie would be more than enough to lead into Justice League.
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#192

So psyched, would have liked to see his take on Man Of Steel (he was offered the movie but turned it down)
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#193

Originally Posted by DMczaf: View Post
Another weird thing is that Affleck was one of Nolan's top choices for Man of Steel, but he turned it down.
Do we have a list of the choices and how far down the list Snyder was? Affleck and Jones were discussed. Who else?

I wouldn't mind Affleck doing the next set of Batman movies instead of Justice League. I like his directorial efforts. Just as long as he doesn't cast himself as Batman.

Originally Posted by HoodWinked: View Post
ben affleck is not a good choice, for directing.

i really like the town and what i've seen for argo. but affleck's good films are ones that are void of special effects.

his worst movies daredevil and Armageddon.

best films Gigli and the town.
He didn't direct those action movies. I much rather have a competent director who can turn a good script into a good movie than someone who like a Micheal Bay who only knows how to shoot action.

Originally Posted by Blader5489: View Post
Most people had no idea what the Avengers was up until a few years, and I'd be willing to bet there's a good number of people who saw The Avengers this summer while being totally oblivious to the rest of the MCU. I don't think this is as big an issue as people make it out to be.
Yeah this idea that every single character has to be established is not true. The individual Marvel movies didn't even do amazing #s at the box office. How many people cared about Thor when his movie came out vs now when his second movie will come out?

It helped yes but Avengers worked because for the first time ever superheroes teamed up in a movie. And it was well made and did exactly what it should have done while avoiding trying to be something it can't be.

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The Green Lantern came out after all those Marvel films came out, and WB learned nothing from them. What makes you think they're capable of doing it now? The hardest part will be making that new Batman trilogy. Too many people will want it to live up to Nolan's trilogy, and the odds of it doing that are very very slim.
GL didn't come out after all those Marvel movies. Captain America and Thor came out the same summer as GL. The Hulk has to be rebooted (again) but they just threw him in.

GL only came out before Avengers. Better analogy would be how could they mess it up so bad after seeing how Nolan handled Batman.
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#194

Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
Do we have a list of the choices and how far down the list Snyder was? Affleck and Jones were discussed. Who else?
Matt Reeves, the Cloverfield/Let Me In director was also in the running.

Snyder was way down on the list. I don't think he was even one of the original names mentioned.
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Originally Posted by effzee: View Post
Do we have a list of the choices and how far down the list Snyder was? Affleck and Jones were discussed. Who else?

I wouldn't mind Affleck doing the next set of Batman movies instead of Justice League. I like his directorial efforts. Just as long as he doesn't cast himself as Batman.
Matt Reeves, Tony Scott and the dude who directed Battle LA (this was before it came out lol)

Duncan confirmed that he was in the running, but wasn't given an offer. Affleck confirmed he got the offer, but turned it down.
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#196

Affleck's too good for this shit.





I love that I can say that in 2012 with a straight face. I loves ya, Ben!
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Should stick with Nolan
Nah, want some good action scenes in my super hero movies. Thanks.
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WB should just concentrate on solo movies at the moment. Reboot Batman successfully and get started on Wonder Woman. Make MoS a success and let's then contemplate JLA.
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Originally Posted by Nesotenso: View Post
WB should just concentrate on solo movies at the moment. Reboot Batman successfully and get started on Wonder Woman. Make MoS a success and let's then contemplate JLA.
If given the option between 3 different films.... or them going balls to the walls to make JLA awesome.. I would vote for the latter personally.
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If given the option between 3 different films.... or them going balls to the walls to make JLA awesome.. I would vote for the latter personally.
Agreed.

Where's this talk about rebooting Batman coming from? It's a terrible idea since the Nolan trilogy just finished and should stand for a long time. Plus, DKR already opens up room for a new Batman in Justice League anyway.