[Ledsen]

I certainly would, it seems like the vast majority of the best titles are console prioritised. Relying on consoles to boost the PC's library through emulation is also atrocious.

There's no need to boost the library with emulated titles. They're simply hundreds of extra games on top of the hundreds of games I already have on my PC. I don't have to choose, I basically have everything.

[kpeezy]

Console exclusive games I'd might have tried if they were on PC: Uncharted, I guess? There must be more but nothing comes up right now. No big loss either way.

lol, just ignore him. He's saying that the "vast majority" of the "best games" are developed for console and then ported. Never mind the fact that the PC is the best version in spite of that, the guy can barely even make a point. He just types the first thing that pops into his brain in every thread.

[beast786]

My PC is a Multi platform platform. I need my Uncharted/God of War/GT.

[TucoBenedictoPacifico]

I could see the draw consoles have for social gamers tho because Xbox Live is for the most part a better online multi-player system than whats available for PC

No, it's not.

I certainly would, it seems like the vast majority of the best titles are console prioritised. Relying on consoles to boost the PC's library through emulation is also atrocious.

No, it's not. (2)
And it's not even a necessity, just an amazing option to have.

My PC is a Multi platform platform. I need my Uncharted/God of War/GT.

To be honest, I couldn't care less about any of these.
The true killer application on PS3 as far as I'm concerned is Wipeout HD.

[Boss Doggie]

...wait, did someone just said Live is better than PC? o_O

[LiquidMetal14]

...wait, did someone just said Live is better than PC? o_O

We're through the looking glass here folks.

[Violater]

Not a big PC gamer, but where are the big "next gen" PC exclusives that I can have now?
That's why I am holding my breath.
The Metro sequel and games from CD Project red I will give you, but not much else I can think of that would make me forgo console gaming.

[Amish]

jeez.. pc is for people who would like to spend their time on a pc and complain about how bad consoles are. xbox/ps3 is for people who would like to spend their time laying on a couch trash talking over the mic.. basically.

[charsace]

The PC games look great and all, but they really aren't next gen to me. I'm not seeing the type of improvement in physics, procedural generation and animation that I'm hoping to see when the new consoles come out.

[gdt]

jeez.. pc is for people who would like to spend their time on a pc and complain about how bad consoles are. xbox/ps3 is for people who would like to spend their time laying on a couch trash talking over the mic.. basically.

yes you are so correct

[Chinner]

jeez.. pc is for people who would like to spend their time on a pc and complain about how bad consoles are. xbox/ps3 is for people who would like to spend their time laying on a couch trash talking over the mic.. basically.

pcs usually cost $2000 and u also have 2 fic the gaymes cuz they r all broke on release!

[jaypah]

I think people can argue back and forth for ages regarding this and still people will see the pc platform as some weird anachronistic gaming platform. All I know is this : - out of my 300-400 steam games I'll be able to play 99.99% of them on my next pc, and the next one, and the one I have in 10 years. - out of all my current ps3 games ( if rumors are true ) I'll be able to play 0 of them on ps4 12+ months from now. The fact that the pc is ubiquitously and perpetually ( to a degree ofc, things like operating systems can prove to be hinders but that can be circumvented ) backwardscompatible is something that, considering the amount of games released, becomes exponentially more important for every year that passes.

This is a very good post and something I've fallen in love with since becoming a PC gamer. So many old games that I can find for super cheap and they all work.

[dark10x]

pcs usually cost $2000 and u also have 2 fic the gaymes cuz they r all broke on release!

It's easy to joke about broken games, but unfortunately, that is still very much a reality. Nothing is more frustrating than dealing with a new PC release that simply doesn't work right out of the gate. :(

[StevieP]

It's easy to joke about broken games, but unfortunately, that is still very much a reality. Nothing is more frustrating than dealing with a new PC release that simply doesn't work right out of the gate. :(

Yeah, broken console releases never happen.

[Amish]

It's easy to joke about broken games, but unfortunately, that is still very much a reality. Nothing is more frustrating than dealing with a new PC release that simply doesn't work right out of the gate. :(

thankfully, help is not far away from your seat :p

[itxaka]

This is a very good post and something I've fallen in love with since becoming a PC gamer. So many old games that I can find for super cheap and they all work.

Wait until your son/daugther is grown up and give them the account. Best present ever.

[babyghost853]

Ha.. If you think Next Gen system will run Battlefield 3 in Ultra or even high in 1080p , your going to be VERY disappointed. Also forget that running at 60fps and AA and AF.... Its not going to happen, sorry.

Guess we will see who is right, I think even the wii U might be able to do it. For the record I'v had a good enough pc that could run most games on high/ultra settings for the last 10-15 yrs or so, and I still perfer to game on my consoles. I usually upgrade or build new every 1-2 years. I still remember being dissapointed when I saw the 360 for the first time and everyone else was going nuts over the graphics (lol).

So yes, games like BF3 ect should be 1080p with ease, I think that should be the min for next gen, and I would hope most people agree with me, because I'm sure most games will lead on next gen systems, and if their not up to it, we won't have much to look forward to gfx wise on anything. Not too many are making PC exclusive games or even leading with PC and downporting, so before you start bashing consoles just because you got your first good PC, I would suggest that you hope the next gen of consoles can handle a game like BF3 @1080p with ease.

[charsace]

This should be one of the focus's of nextgen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotat...&v=j5gb2XfjW0U

Procedural Generation would cut down the size of single player games by a lot while allowing devs to do more. Can you guys imagine an open universe 3d sci fi RPG where you can explore every planet? That would be awesome.

Keep in mind that what you see in that video was done on a 460m vid card.

[Eideka]

Guess we will see who is right, I think even the wii U might be able to do it.

What makes you think this ?

[TucoBenedictoPacifico]

This should be one of the focus's of nextgen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotat...&v=j5gb2XfjW0U Procedural Generation would cut down the size of single player games by a lot while allowing devs to do more. Can you guys imagine an open universe 3d sci fi RPG where you can explore every planet? That would be awesome. Keep in mind that what you see in that video was done on a 460m vid card.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43eIjvoYfos

[Derrick01]

It's easy to joke about broken games, but unfortunately, that is still very much a reality. Nothing is more frustrating than dealing with a new PC release that simply doesn't work right out of the gate. :(

Stop buying AMD GPUs!

[Corky]

Stop buying AMD GPUs!

dark10 is repping team green bromeo! Also yes, even though it's getting more rare pc games that are unplayable out the gate is extremely annoying.

[Boss Doggie]

jeez.. pc is for people who would like to spend their time on a pc and complain about how bad consoles are. xbox/ps3 is for people who would like to spend their time laying on a couch trash talking over the mic.. basically.

hmmm my sarcasm detector is broken

[Leckan]

It's easy to joke about broken games, but unfortunately, that is still very much a reality. Nothing is more frustrating than dealing with a new PC release that simply doesn't work right out of the gate. :(

Skyrim PS3 version? Also PS3 F3 GOTY edition and NV isn't exactly the most stable version.

[evil solrac v3.0]

what's ironic is the last two games that I had major issues with not working where console ports (sonic generations and Dead Rising 2: off the record)

[Derrick01]

dark10 is repping team green bromeo! Also yes, even though it's getting more rare pc games that are unplayable out the gate is extremely annoying.

I was just taking some shots at AMD, last Fall was unacceptable. But yeah it is annoying.

[RionaaM]

Wait until your son/daugther is grown up and give them the account. Best present ever.

^^ Best dad ever. And in the extremely unlikely case I'd ever have kids, I'm doing exactly that.

[rager]

While I do want to build another gaming PC, I am annoyed by the constant upgrading that is needed to catch up. I built an awesome machine 5 years ago that is crappy by today's standards. As soon as you build the PC there will be better parts needed in less than a year in some instances, then you have to shell out another $250 or whatever for a new CPU or Mobo, Video card etc... In order to fully benefit from the latest games I have to basically replace everything minus the case.

[StevieP]

While I do want to build another gaming PC, I am annoyed by the constant upgrading that is needed to catch up. I built an awesome machine 5 years ago that is crappy by today's standards. As soon as you build the PC there will be better parts needed in less than a year in some instances, then you have to shell out another $250 or whatever for a new CPU or Mobo, Video card etc... In order to fully benefit from the latest games I have to basically replace everything minus the case.

Err... this is a slightly outdated view.

A Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge system w/8GB of memory and a 660+ or 7850+ will last you years, with the only variable being upgrading (or adding SLI/CF) the GPU in a couple years depending on how high you want the settings in your games.

[sp3000]

While I do want to build another gaming PC, I am annoyed by the constant upgrading that is needed to catch up. I built an awesome machine 5 years ago that is crappy by today's standards. As soon as you build the PC there will be better parts needed in less than a year in some instances, then you have to shell out another $250 or whatever for a new CPU or Mobo, Video card etc... In order to fully benefit from the latest games I have to basically replace everything minus the case.

This would be a valid point if it was posted in 2005

[MrNyarlathotep]

While I do want to build another gaming PC, I am annoyed by the constant upgrading that is needed to catch up. I built an awesome machine 5 years ago that is crappy by today's standards. As soon as you build the PC there will be better parts needed in less than a year in some instances, then you have to shell out another $250 or whatever for a new CPU or Mobo, Video card etc... In order to fully benefit from the latest games I have to basically replace everything minus the case.

Weird, I bought a fairly crappy PC 5 years ago, and it's running every game I play at 1440x900 resolution (native monitor res) just fine. Even fairly crappy barebones ports.

[apana]

You don't have next gen now. Next gen means the games that will arrive on the next consoles. You may be able to play the ones that aren't exclusive on the PC but the PC can't let you play games from the future.

edit: Or can it? shyamalan twist

[MrNyarlathotep]

You don't have next gen now. Next gen means the games that will arrive on the next consoles. You may be able to play the ones that aren't exclusive on the PC but the PC can't let you play games from the future.

Weird, I suspect Skyrim fully modded with ENB stuff, that 'open cities' mod and some of those 'large scale battles' mods is exactly the same level of world detail you would expect to see in TESVI.

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Dont play games on PC. Prefer the ease and convenience of a console.

[ghibli99]

My whole life I've been platform agnostic.

I know you're not (based on the rest of your post), but I still am. Perhaps it's just the three+ decades of gaming behind me that just have me not caring about which is the so-called best. Outdated tech doesn't bother me anymore. The best games, regardless of platform, always will.

[revolverjgw]

I know you're not (based on the rest of your post), but I still am. Perhaps it's just the three+ decades of gaming behind me that just have me not caring about which is the so-called best. Outdated tech doesn't bother me anymore. The best games, regardless of platform, always will.

I've never known any other life but the all-platform master race. It was cool because I played both sides during the SNES/Genesis wars. I guess I developed a taste for interacting with and studying fanboys, it's endlessly fascinating. Threads like this are great.

[Nymerio]

I used to play mostly on consoles but this generation made me switch to pc gaming entirely. Problem was that I wasn't using my consoles on a regular basis and if I wanted to play something I almost always had to install some firmware update or patch. Because I use my PC daily this isn't really a problem because all games are always up to date.

I also find my pc far more comfortable to use than any console currently out. Multitasking is a huge thing for me. Nothing better than being able to quickly tab out (don't even need to with two screens) and open some wiki/video whatever is nice. I can't understand the problems people seem to have with pc gaming like the the whole comfy couch argument. My pc even automatically switches video output to my projector if I turn that on.

I can't even remember the last time I had a problem with my pc...

[Nekofrog]

Dont play games on PC. Prefer the ease and convenience of a console.

What could possibly be easier than loading up steam and double clicking? No fucking around with physical media, scratching, losing, kids fucking it up, etc.

[StarEye]

Almost stopped playing games on consoles completely. I prefer the ease and convenience of the PC.

(I kinda want to sell my X360, but... RDR).

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

What could possibly be easier than loading up steam and double clicking? No fucking around with physical media, scratching, losing, kids fucking it up, etc.

I was referring more to the convenience of not having to build a decent gaming rig or shelling out for one. Im happy enough to just pick up the new console when it comes out and thats that till the next one comes along. Plus I rather play games on the couch, on the TV and with a controller.

I know you can do all this on PC but my PC is not near my TV. Its just easier.

[TheExorzist]

jeez.. pc is for people who would like to spend their time on a pc and complain about how bad consoles are. xbox/ps3 is for people who would like to spend their time laying on a couch trash talking over the mic.. basically.

Well, if NeoGaf is a representation of the whole community I'd rather say PC gaming is for people who like to talk about games instead of playing them. ;)

[CitizenCope]

What could possibly be easier than loading up steam and double clicking? No fucking around with physical media, scratching, losing, kids fucking it up, etc.

Hard to believe this is true when so many multiplat OT's are filled with pages of pc problems. Steam fixes everything?

[diffusionx]

Hard to believe this is true when so many multiplat OT's are filled with pages of pc problems. Steam fixes everything?

And yet, barring some major mess (like Rage with AMD cards at launch), most people don't have those issues. Obviously the people who have a problem, especially early, will be the first to say so.

I've popped in and out of maybe 40 games on PC since I got it a couple months ago and haven't had technical issues with any of them.

[Trey]

Hard to believe this is true when so many multiplat OT's are filled with pages of pc problems. Steam fixes everything?

A lot of these responses are cherry picking. On both sides of the argument. It's funny how people are responding to the "plug and play" boon of consoles with "lol, I just double click."

[CitizenCope]

And yet, barring some major mess (like Rage with AMD cards at launch), most people don't have those issues. Obviously the people who have a problem, especially early, will be the first to say so. I've popped in and out of maybe 40 games on PC since I got it a couple months ago and haven't had technical issues with any of them.

But is your weekend going to be ruined if I still believe console gaming is easier?

[CecilRousso]

I was referring more to the convenience of not having to build a decent gaming rig or shelling out for one. Im happy enough to just pick up the new console when it comes out and thats that till the next one comes along. Plus I rather play games on the couch, on the TV and with a controller. I know you can do all this on PC but my PC is not near my TV. Its just easier.

I can see several reasons why one would prefer consoles, but when you put it like that, you make it sound that you don´t care that much about what you actually play, just that you get to play something. :p

[faceless007]

Hard to believe this is true when so many multiplat OT's are filled with pages of pc problems. Steam fixes everything?

People who don't have problems tend not to complain.

[CitizenCope]

So I'm guessing the only right answer for the PC eletists to hear from a console only gamer is: "I'm super lazy, it's why I console."

[TucoBenedictoPacifico]

Well, if NeoGaf is a representation of the whole community I'd rather say PC gaming is for people who like to talk about games instead of playing them. ;)

Yeah, people on gaming forums talk a lot about games.
You surely got us.

[abuC]

I was a console only game until last year when my PS3 and 360 broke, built a really nice PC in September and I absolutely love PC gaming.