[gutter_trash]

what better way to re-enforce Mitt Romney`s problem connecting with average people with average problems by selecting one of the most cold hearted, sniviling, uncaring tea partyier in the GOP as his running mate

[Raine]

Just search for all of PhoenixDark's posts. ;)

Hell, he's the one that has them bookmarked as well.

[mj1108]

It is expected to be Paul Ryan

Oh god yes please let this happen.

This would be like Christmas for Democrats.

[SteveWinwood]

This just keeps proving my theory that Rodney is a mole to destroy the gop from the inside.

[bananas]

I'm out the loop. What exactly is so glorious about it possibly being Paul Ryan that people are already declaring Romney done for? (I don't want Romney to win either. I just want to know what's up.)

Look up NY-26.

[djplaeskool]

Ryan wants to replace medicare with private insurance coupons to pay for millionaire tax cuts edit: seriously.

This and his idea of reducing tax brackets to only 10% and 25%.
Even after thinking and re-thinking it through, it continues to be hair-brained at best.

[Karsticles]

It wasn't change based on introspection or new information. It was a change based on political gamesmanship. 7 years prior, he's singing her praise, handing out copies of her books for Christmas, and saying she was the reason he got into politics. Once he's actually a visible political player on the national stage and draws scrutiny from Catholic leaders, magically is tone changes. Saying "It’s an atheist philosophy" and comparing his philosophy to that of a Catholic priest is too convenient given the source of the complaints.

He isn't so much changing his ideology as rejecting the parts that are politically inconvenient.

Unless you two have something more than your own speculation on this, I don't take it to be anything more than what you've shown it to be.

[planar1280]

how does Ryan play with independents and blue dog democrats

[Nameless]

Yeah yeah Paul Ryan. Let's at least entertain ourselves.

How about Gingrich? "Dreaded rivals join forces to save the country from Obama". On paper, and in the numb thoughts of GOP pundits, he would give the Romney Administration a boost in "creditably"(rather the illusion of it) on the foreign policy/God/guns front.

Don't doubt the limits of republican desperation or how ridiculous this all can get(is).

[DrForester]

What is this from?

Get to the awesome science thread!

[Wilsongt]

how does Ryan play with independents and blue dog democrats

Quite poorly, apparently.

[bananas]

how does Ryan play with independents and blue dog democrats

He doesn't.

[thefit]

how does Ryan play with independents and blue dog democrats

Independents not well and blue dogs are almost extinct.

[MasterShotgun]

Ryan wants to replace medicare with private insurance coupons to pay for millionaire tax cuts edit: seriously.

Look up complacent voters not showing up in 2010 and then Wisconsin shitstorm.

Please oh please let it be Ryan. Unless the GOP is already admitting defeat, I have no idea what the reasoning behind him as VP is.

[Patriotsbball5460]

Ryan dosen't turn Wisconsin. He hurts Romney in Wisconsin.

Actually, not exactly.

An analysis by Nate Silver of The New York Times finds that a running mate nets an additional two percentage points, give or take, to his or her home state. So if a race is tight, that could be decisive. In the current veepstakes, an analysis of polls by the Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling shows that of nearly three dozen potential VP candidates tested in 15 states since mid-May, “none helps Romney improve his position better in the potential running mate’s home state than Ryan in Wisconsin,” the political website Daily Caller reports. A PPP poll of Wisconsin taken in early June showed Obama beating Romney 50 percent to 44 percent. But with Ryan on the ticket, Obama’s lead dropped to just one percentage point.

Link

[planar1280]

Do you guys think the USS wisconsin is a red herring?

[mj1108]

Holy shit, just read on Huffington Post it's gonna be Ryan. I mean really. Wow. This is gonna be quite the show.

hahahaha... holy shit.

What I would give to be a fly on the wall where Obama is when he heard the news.

[B-Dubs]

Unless you two have something more than your own speculation on this, I don't take it to be anything more than what you've shown it to be.

You just have to look at a lot of the shit he was receiving at the time from the religious right. He got a bunch of shit from them when the Ayn Rand thing broke, a week or so later he goes back on what he said a year ago. It was purely pressure.

[Oblivion]

Wait, it really IS Ryan?


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Thank you, Jebus! Not as great a pick as Bachmann, but he'll do quite well.

Kiss Florida goodbye Mittens, you horrendously incompetent pandering twit.

[ezekial45]

As if Obama didn't have enough ammunition against Romney's campaign.

Yeesh, Paul Ryan's big economic plan is downright horrifying.

[mj1108]

Please oh please let it be Ryan. Unless the GOP is already admitting defeat, I have no idea what the reasoning behind him as VP is.

Huffington Post is reporting it will be Ryan.

[Officerrob]

how does Ryan play with independents and blue dog democrats

He goes over with them as well as someone who stands-up and starts masterbating in church

[planar1280]

Drudge

SOURCES: Final names were Ryan, Rubio, Pawlenty, Christie, Portman and one unnamed wild card... Developing...

[jgkspsx]

What I would give to be a fly on the wall where Obama is when he heard the news.

Something like this?



BTW, are you guys seriously being swayed in your disbelief by HuffPo?

[Thunder Monkey]

*coughs*

Please don't win.

[thefit]

As if Obama didn't have enough ammunition against Romney's campaign. Yeesh, Paul Ryan's big economic plan is downright horrifying.

Best part is there is NO chance of running away from it, he proposed it twice and both times the entire GOP went on record of being 100% behind it. The ads right themselves.

[cubanb]

It's Palin time!

[FLEABttn]

Unless you two have something more than your own speculation on this, I don't take it to be anything more than what you've shown it to be.

Yeah, just a crazy coincidence.

At least you could pinpoint a change in tone from, say, Kerry, once it was learned that what got us into Iraq was bullshit. There's been no change in tone from Ryan or policy changes that would suggest he's actually changed anything.

[Guevara]

Drudge

look at the page dude. It's 90% pictures of Ryan

[Kibbles]

Hope my fellow dumbass wisconsinites don't vote for him now just because of Ryan. No problem calling them dumbasses because they voted to keep Walker in office.

[mj1108]

The Daily Show should be amazing on Monday.

[Mollymauk]

Ryan lol. Romney pushed his chips all in. He's more concerned with being accepted by Republicans than with winning the election.

[giga]

Actually, not exactly. Link

Ryan is way down there in terms of home state wins if you go by Nate Silver.





http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...y-the-outcome/

He's not very popular.

[whytemyke]

I know it's a long shot, but do you guys think that the GOP higher-ups are starting to consider telling their delegates to fuck around at the nominating convention?

I mean, the GOP cannot think this is a good idea. It almost reeks of them setting up the person they want to be the GOP poster boy for 2016...

[jaxword]

It's Palin time!

YES, IT IS.

[johnsmith]

I know it's a long shot, but do you guys think that the GOP higher-ups are starting to consider telling their delegates to fuck around at the nominating convention? I mean, the GOP cannot think this is a good idea. It almost reeks of them setting up the person they want to be the GOP poster boy for 2016...

Haha, the Daily Kos's headline was

"Romney to announce GOP's 2016 front-runner in Virginia tomorrow morning"

[Imm0rt4l]

Ryan lol. Romney pushed his chips all in. He's more concerned with being accepted by Republicans than with winning the election.

lol @ trying to still secure the nomination.

[Oblivion]

Obama's response to this news is gonna be a video that just consists of him laughing uncontrollably for twenty minutes straight.

[metalslimer]

I know it's a long shot, but do you guys think that the GOP higher-ups are starting to consider telling their delegates to fuck around at the nominating convention? I mean, the GOP cannot think this is a good idea. It almost reeks of them setting up the person they want to be the GOP poster boy for 2016...

The GOP lost their mind when they back the tea party and went all in. There's no going back for them.

Edit: If Romney loses this race spectacularly and polls suggest it was Ryan that helped cause it he won't be anywhere near the 2016 ticket. Republicans only went with Romney because they knew he was only the only somewhat legit candidate. If they really wanted a tea party crazy they had other options.

[whytemyke]

Like, think about it. If you could choreograph a Herman Cain comeback at the convention somehow (I know it'll never happen, but still) imagine how much momentum it'd give the GOP and completely screw over the Obama campaign?

It'll never happen but if it was possible to be done quietly, whew... talk about completely changing the landscape of this election.

[B-Dubs]

Obama's response to this news is gonna just be a video that just consists of him laughing uncontrollably for twenty minutes.

I'm positive that's exactly what he's doing now.

[planar1280]

Oh boy...............................


http://youtu.be/EnYlx3Rh-Lg

[gutter_trash]

the only logical reason for this choice hr is that is pressured by the ultra-right to pick Ryan to get a smooth Convention without dissent from the Tea Party

but among normal people, this pick is counter productive

Oh boy............................... http://youtu.be/EnYlx3Rh-Lg

quoted for awesomeness to be bookmarked for future re-use

[VALIS]

Not really sure what most of you guys are talking about in here. Romney needs to energize the conservative base

In presidential politics, you appeal to the center to win, not the extremes. The extremes are already voting for you. It's the mass of middles and undecideds who win an election.

[metalslimer]

Like, think about it. If you could choreograph a Herman Cain comeback at the convention somehow (I know it'll never happen, but still) imagine how much momentum it'd give the GOP and completely screw over the Obama campaign? It'll never happen but if it was possible to be done quietly, whew... talk about completely changing the landscape of this election.

Are you completely out of your mind. It would completely destroy what's left of the GOP. The voters would feel disenfranchised and they would be putting their senate/house seats in jeopardy.

[johnsmith]

Guys, Paul Ryan isn't a Tea Bagger. The dude's been in congress since 1999.

[Bowdz]

And to think there are strong rumors swirling about a prime time slot for Donald Trump at the convention. This ought to be crazy.

[whytemyke]

Are you completely out of your mind. It would completely destroy what's left of the GOP. The voters would feel disenfranchised and they would be putting their senate/house seats in jeopardy.

Yeah. I'm reading too much political fiction lately, haha. Realized it was stupid the moment I posted it. OH well...

[sangreal]

I know it's a long shot, but do you guys think that the GOP higher-ups are starting to consider telling their delegates to fuck around at the nominating convention? I mean, the GOP cannot think this is a good idea. It almost reeks of them setting up the person they want to be the GOP poster boy for 2016...

The GOP, living comfortable in the fox news bubble, thinks this is a fantastic idea. they pushed hard for ryan

[B-Dubs]

Guys, Paul Ryan isn't a Tea Bagger. The dude's been in congress since 1999.

Your right, he's actually more hardcore than the tea party.