[thesoapster]

I wonder if anyone has told the OP how/why we perceive color.

[mr_nothin]

So you are saying that if you are in space you are no longer left or right handed? and that your head is not above your feet? You don't need gravity or a sphere to have up, down, left or right, you simply have to have relative points.

But my head wouldnt be above my feet if I was upside down!

[Messofanego]

I wonder what people on Halo like installations think?

[CFK]

As said, I understand gravity prevents there actually being and up and down side.

[HappyBivouac]

up = against gravity
down = with gravity

That is what those two words mean in real life.

[bud]

i just woke up...
... i should go back to sleep.

[Toppot]

But my head wouldnt be above my feet if I was upside down!

But then you are adding gravity and/or another plain the be upside down relative to. If you are just floating in space on your own with no other point of reference, then your head is always above your feet because of your natural sense of being right up and (I forget the right word) but if you close your eyes and you move your arm, you still know where it is because of muscle tension etc. Given conditions on earth your eyes and mind will naturally be 'on top' because of the gravity we grow up on, and evolutionary/instinctively, our line of sight being a 'natural' plane.

[Riposte]

I can't recall a thread on GAF that has made me this angry. Just... ugh, don't want to get banned.

[Htown]

I think this thread is the best argument against the legalization of marijuana that we've ever seen on GAF.

[blame space]

what the hell is this thread

[Drazgul]

You need to rotate that 90 degrees.

It's even worse now, damn you!

[Dynamite Shikoku]

This thread is moran

[maquiladora]

I can't recall a thread on GAF that has made me this angry. Just... ugh, don't want to get banned.

This thread? Of all the threads?

[Ultratech]

3D Space is truly a tricky space.

Let's not drag 4D space into this though...that's a whole other can of worms.

[HappyBivouac]

It's even worse now, damn you!

No no, like this:



That's the real, actual orientation of the Earth, guys.

[Andrex]

No no, like this: That's the real, actual orientation of the Earth, guys.

You mean, justified to the sun...? Or, what?

[Stet]

No no, like this: That's the real, actual orientation of the Earth, guys.

Technically the only real, actual orientation of the Earth is a globe that you're standing on and which changes direction when you turn. Like...the Earth.

[Nameless]

Good time to do this with the perseids this weekend and all. So earth is round and the stars are pretty much stationary right? If you're laying down on the grass or what have you and you happen to be anywhere but the top axis of earth you can either be looking into or STARING DOWN into space. I think the thing that tripped me out most is watching planes fly by once you realize this. They are flying UPSIDE DOWN shamalyantwist.jpg

Staring down into various points of the past

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[Tathanen]

Does anyone have an actual map like that? I was thinking about it after I saw the "upside down" one. A map with the earth rotated 90 degrees instead of 180, then properly unfurled in that direction. The 180 one is still pretty recognizable, but a 90 degree rotation would be wild.

[WorriedCitizen]

This is gonna blow op's mind:

Does anyone have an actual map like that? I was thinking about it after I saw the "upside down" one. A map with the earth rotated 90 degrees instead of 180, then properly unfurled in that direction. The 180 one is still pretty recognizable, but a 90 degree rotation would be wild.

45 degree would be wilder

[Majine]

I think we are overlooking one simple point. That the Earth... may be flat.

And America is on the bottom side.

[Tesseract]

what the fuck.

[Megalodactyl]

Where is "up" in outerspace?

All directions are up in outerspace

[POWERSPHERE]

Right what? I just broke science. Oh not just into. DOWN AT IT.

Space knows no down

[thirty]

Then why did we fly to the moon and back down to earth? Everything in space isn't just "over there"

[Alebrije]

Then why did we fly to the moon and back down to earth? Everything in space isn't just "over there"

Beacuse :

[blame space]

i'm starting to think the sun doesn't actually rise and set

[Baggatoast]

Lol, this thread is at least as good as the vagina confusion thread yesterday.

i'm starting to think the sun doesn't actually rise and set

Do you realize?

[thirty]

Ok say there was no gravity and everything just floated but we could shoot around like astroboy. If you wanted to fly somewhere you'd still need up down left right in and out to the relation of your own body. So if you stand on earth down is indeed down because it's beneath your feet. But if you use your body, not earth as the point you are looking from the entire perspective shifts. Actually if earth was clear like a crystal you could look through it from the "top" part and STILL look down into space.

The gif below would be correct provided there was a center for space to flow around but there is no one center. You are the center.

[Alebrije]

Ok say there was no gravity and everything just floated but we could shoot around like astroboy. If you wanted to fly somewhere you'd still need up down left right in and out to the relation of your own body. So if you stand on earth down is indeed down because it's beneath your feet. But if you use your body, not earth as the point you are looking from the entire perspective shifts.

[Patryn]

Ok say there was no gravity and everything just floated but we could shoot around like astroboy. If you wanted to fly somewhere you'd still need up down left right in and out to the relation of your own body. So if you stand on earth down is indeed down because it's beneath your feet. But if you use your body, not earth as the point you are looking from the entire perspective shifts.

That's because up, down, left and right are relative directions, unlike North, South, East and West which are fixed. Likewise, if you flip the traditional map, it doesn't mean that Australia is near the North pole, because North = up simply has to do with our traditional perception of things.

BTW, there is an edge of the universe but the universe is infinite. The universe is also getting bigger every moment.

I just blew your mind.

[thirty]

If there were truly an edge you could just go left from there to get to earth. No.

[Patryn]

If there were truly an edge you could just go left from there to get to earth. No.

Dude, there is no left. Remember? It's all relative.

Also: When you go left on Earth, you actually aren't going in a single direction. Remember, the Earth is curved. Assuming you are moving, at every moment your relative left will be a different direction than left was the moment before. So when you go left on Earth, you're actually going in a curve as well. Keep going left, and you'll go in a circle.

It's why, when a shuttle is taking off, it appears to be turning while in mid-air. Because it's actually going straight, and we're moving.

[thirty]

So this theoretical edge of the universe. Is it like the edge of a piece of paper with all galaxies sitting on one plane or is it one big invisible sphere and everything sits in it?

[Patryn]

So this theoretical edge of the universe. Is it like the edge of a piece of paper with all galaxies sitting on one plane or is it one big invisible sphere and everything sits in it?

There are theories about what the shape of the universe is.

Turns out flat is a valid theory that NASA currently subscribes to!

[DoDonGouki]

[that1dude24]

up is an artificial frame of reference
so is down

[Javaman]

It always sort of bothered me Star Trek never showed ship battles with the ships at completely different angles. But I guess that would mess viewers up too much. The universe is not heliocentric. It's not even, err, Milky Way-centric. There is no up and there is no down. Space is relative.

How does the Earth's orbit around the sun compare to the sun's orbit in the Milky Way? ignoring the radius of Earth, it's easy for me to visualize "up" as being towards the North pole, almost perpendicular to the sun. I've always assumed that the Earth orbits the sun in the same plane that the Sun does the Milky Way. If it's some other angle that would mess up my mind's eye.

[Foxy Fox 39]

So like, when rocks fall, they're filling in earths holes!

[Bread]

wtf is this shit?

[weekend_warrior]

Good time to do this with the perseids this weekend and all. So earth is round and the stars are pretty much stationary right? If you're laying down on the grass or what have you and you happen to be anywhere but the top axis of earth you can either be looking into or STARING DOWN into space. I think the thing that tripped me out most is watching planes fly by once you realize this. They are flying UPSIDE DOWN shamalyantwist.jpg

No.

[thirty]

That just makes space look like a big tube which in that case there's still up unless you go to the end of the tube if there was such a thing and jump out. But it also doesn't account for earths own rotation and lol at post 186.

[coldvein]

so "what goes up must comes down" is bs because there's no up or down?

[soxinthebox]

Lol, this thread is at least as good as the vagina confusion thread yesterday. Do you realize?

great song

[Outlaw]

This is your brain on drugs:

Good time to do this with the perseids this weekend and all. So earth is round and the stars are pretty much stationary right? If you're laying down on the grass or what have you and you happen to be anywhere but the top axis of earth you can either be looking into or STARING DOWN into space. I think the thing that tripped me out most is watching planes fly by once you realize this. They are flying UPSIDE DOWN shamalyantwist.jpg

[Culex]

So this theoretical edge of the universe. Is it like the edge of a piece of paper with all galaxies sitting on one plane or is it one big invisible sphere and everything sits in it?

Plenty of theories, but no one truly knows. Not to mention, the stars you do see, you're actually looking back in time, so we don't even know what NOW looks like.

[NotTheGuyYouKill]

OP, I think this will really blow your mind: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversed_map

Oh fuck.

[Magnus]

Then why did we fly to the moon and back down to earth? Everything in space isn't just "over there"

Everything in space is absolutely 'over there' in relation to everything else.

[Coppertracks]

Good time to do this with the perseids this weekend and all. So earth is round and the stars are pretty much stationary right? If you're laying down on the grass or what have you and you happen to be anywhere but the top axis of earth you can either be looking into or STARING DOWN into space. I think the thing that tripped me out most is watching planes fly by once you realize this. They are flying UPSIDE DOWN shamalyantwist.jpg

DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL LIKE A FRIED EGG?!

[Magnus]

BTW, there is an edge of the universe but the universe is infinite. The universe is also getting bigger every moment. .

It is? Thought it was expanding (albeit slowing) and was estimated at around 15 billion light years across?

Edit- whoops, 46 billion