[Battersea Power Station]

I read the article but, haven't read through the whole thread yet: has the Men Hating Women point been called "white knighting" by Team Walter yet?

[marrec]

Oh man, imagine if the other person just began playing along to fuck with the person's head.

This makes me feel bad for intentionally following some people for kicks when I was a teenager.

Maybe some of them thought I was gang stalking them... :(

[LuchaShaq]

The "Drunk Drivers Should Have Their License Revoked FOREVER THEY ARE UTTER HUMAN GARBAGE" crowd often just strikes me as basement dwellers or teetotalers who have never gone out and had fun, and are just looking for a way to harshly judge those that do. Go to a bar. Look around. Almost all of these people are going to drive home after a couple drinks. Probably all of them will be utterly fine, causing no injury to themselves or others. I just hate the attitude that drunk driving is some activity only for the utterly irresponsible scumbags of the world, when practically everyone does it sooner or later. If you haven't done it, then chances are your mom or dad or friends have. Nobody wants to call a cab because they had a couple margaritas at the mexican place after work. Texting or talking while driving has been show to be as dangerous or more dangerous than drinking.....yet you see none of the same indignation there, and people have pretty violently fought legislation to prevent it.

Fuck off with that nonsense I used to be a legit alcoholic and even I wasn't a big enough scumbag to ever drive drunk.

[Arment]

I'm going to have to agree with blame space here. reddit.com is an echo chamber/circle jerk of intolerance and idiocy when it comes to religion. They are no better than the extremist conservatives who shove religion down your throat every other second. It's ironic how they criticize religious people for worshipping Jesus Christ because they practically kiss the ground Richard Dawkins walks on. I'm an atheist myself, but I don't need to proudly proclaim it to the world and have people pat me on the back for it. Basically, what I'm trying to say is people like them give Atheists a bad wrap.

/r/atheism is a community for atheists where they can keep to themselves. Comparing that to door to door religion or conservative religious dogma being forced down your throat isn't nearly the same. I'm not sure what you'd expect from Reddit, either. Reddit is not all atheists.

I'm an atheist too. Good for you that you don't want a pat on the back. Sometimes a pat on the back is nice when all you've gotten before that was fear for being yourself. Not everyone is like you, or has had your experiences. Thanks for that, because you come off as you're better than everyone you've ever met in your post.

[Bombadil]

/r/atheism is a community for atheists where they can keep to themselves. Comparing that to door to door religion or conservative religious dogma being forced down your throat isn't nearly the same. I'm an atheist too. Good for you that you don't want a pat on the back. Sometimes a pat on the back is nice when all you've gotten before that was fear for being yourself. Not everyone is like you, or has had your experiences.

What? I guess the guys who post all that tripe against women must also have a good excuse. Have you actually visited /r/atheism? Do you know the kinds of things they say?

[Arment]

What? I guess the guys who post all that tripe against women must also have a good excuse. Have you actually visited /r/atheism? Do you know the kinds of things they say?

I've met idiots and genuinely intelligent people on /r/atheism. Kind of like NeoGAF.

[FleckSplat]

That's not a real thing. Outspoken is not the same thing as militant.

But the fact that you immediately thought of "outspoken" when he said "militant" means you associated them in your mind!

Bam!

[Bombadil]

I've met idiots and genuinely intelligent people on /r/atheism. Kind of like NeoGAF.

That's very clever, Arment.

[Arment]

That's very clever, Arment.

Who would have thought that communities have wildly different people belonging to them?

I wouldn't want NeoGAF judged based on a couple different viewpoints held here.

[coldvein]

i had a feeling this would get into "drunk drivers - evil or not?" territory. it's like they're spraying bullets into a crowd yo.

[Vire]

/r/atheism is a community for atheists where they can keep to themselves. Comparing that to door to door religion or conservative religious dogma being forced down your throat isn't nearly the same. I'm not sure what you'd expect from Reddit, either. Reddit is not all atheists. I'm an atheist too. Good for you that you don't want a pat on the back. Sometimes a pat on the back is nice when all you've gotten before that was fear for being yourself. Not everyone is like you, or has had your experiences. Thanks for that, because you come off as you're better than everyone you've ever met in your post.

That's incredibly ironic because that's precisely what that community thinks.

"Haha, aren't we great- give me upvotes and karma for shitting on religion."

If I earned a penny for the amount times I've seen something on the front page of that site that's made me roll my eyes from /r/atheism, I'd be a god damn millionaire.

Between that and the amount of "white knighting" that goes on at that site...

"I saved this dog from a river today and gave my grandma twenty bucks, aren't I great?"

No fuck you, no one cares. If you do a good deed, you shouldn't have to be rewarded for it to do something similar in the future, that defeats the whole purpose and shows where your actual intent is.

[Zebra]

The gang stalking stuff is blowing my mind... I had never heard of this before. I do hope these people get the help they need.

[Trouble]

But the fact that you immediately thought of "outspoken" when he said "militant" means you associated them in your mind! Bam!

The gang stalking stuff is blowing my mind... I had never heard of this before. I do hope these people get the help they need.

Yeah the people making those videos are pretty clearly suffering from paranoid delusions and probably full blown schizophrenia.

[wetwired]

Wow there is actually a pro drink driving movement? Idon'twanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg

I can't tell whether they're caught up in the semantics of "drink" driving as opposed to drunk driving. There's nothing wrong with having a drink or 2 and driving under the legal limit, but to drive Drunk? wtf

[BocoDragon]

There are militant atheists. A lot of them during the French Revolution, Russian Revolution and Chinese Revolution.

Haven't heard much from them in the Internet age, though.

[SouthernDragon]

...

Is the "Driving after Drinking" defense really "well, waiting is inconvenient and not fun!"

Come on.

P.S. If the argument is "Well, it's only one beer!" then wait 10 minutes, piss it out, gone!

[coldvein]

Wow there is actually a pro drink driving movement? Idon'twanttoliveonthisplanetanymore.jpg I can't tell whether they're caught up in the semantics of "drink" driving as opposed to drunk driving. There's nothing wrong with having a drink or 2 and driving under the legal limit, but to drive Drunk? wtf

nobody is really saying its okay to be really drunk and go drive.

[CornBurrito]

nobody is really saying its okay to be really drunk and go drive.

Except someone in this thread.

[Angry Grimace]

nobody is really saying its okay to be really drunk and go drive.

Hence why its ridiculous to claim there's Drunk Driving advocates everywhere; if you say anything that's *perceived* to defend any aspect of drunk drivers, you are a Drunk Driving Advocate. There really isn't some culture of people saying drinking and driving is okay.

As I said, I helped a friend of mine get out of a DUI where he blew a 0.03 roadside. I'm sure someone thinks I'm a "drunk driving advocate" too.

[brianjones]

militant atheists

[GavinGT]

Men hating women isn't just for the internet.

[Uncle]

nobody is really saying its okay to be really drunk and go drive.

"In truth, drunk driving laws have nothing to do with actual crime and everything to do with prohibition. What has been criminalized is an arbitrary amount of drinking, not actual harm to people or property. Literally, the content of your blood has been criminalized!"

[Angry Grimace]

My wife is reading about these Gang Stalkers now and she says she can tell the real paranoid schizophrenics from people just trolling because schizophrenics have certain hallmark behaviors and delusions which are really common to paranoid schizophrenics.

[Karsticles]

The gang stalking stuff is blowing my mind... I had never heard of this before. I do hope these people get the help they need.

A lot of them don't. I used to have to deal with one on a daily basis. I never had a label for her other than "nuts", but she thought there were conspiracies everywhere. Very unhealthy person.

[rCIZZLE]

militant atheists

Came in expecting this on the list.

[Slavik81]

P.S. If the argument is "Well, it's only one beer!" then wait 10 minutes, piss it out, gone!

I have a hard time believing that the effects of drinking a beer end 10 minutes after finishing it. Nor does pissing reduce your BAC, to my knowledge.

[border]

What a faulty analogy. So people who drive drunk do so because they believe the stats to be bullshit just because they've been lucky enough not to wreck? Oh jeez. Let's rationalize all risky behavior like that.

People inevitably end up behind a wheel after a couple drinks, and when they discover that they do not become some unstoppable death machine that runs over babies, they begin to rethink all the scare stories they've been told. They see plenty of responsible people go out, have a few, and make it home without incident. The reality of it does not match up to the tales, so they feel like people have been crying wolf and all that. Over-exaggerating your case ultimately undermines it.

I said nothing of the statistics, though I don't think statistics are much of a deterrent for risky behavior, particularly in young people. Plenty of awful statistics about smoking,

Is a glass of wine with dinner going to put you over the legal limit? Serious question.

Will a couple margaritas with tacos put you over the legal limit?

2 servings of alcohol will put any girl under 120 lbs over the limit in the USA (.08). So if you go on a date with a girl you should apparently start taking her keys away from her and calling a cab if she has a second glass of wine.

3 servings of alcohol will put any guy under 140 lbs over the limit. Problem is it can be hard to work out how much you've had because alcohol content in beer can vary, bartenders can pour stronger, and wine glasses can be filled up more than they should for a single serving. Not that it's an excuse, but that's how even well-meaning people get themselves into trouble.

Some European countries put the limit at .05, which means that pretty much everyone under 200lbs is going to be legally drunk after 2-2 1/2 drinks.

[Sqorgar]

I'm not the only one thinking that gang stalking sounds like a fun thing to do some bored afternoon, am I? Totally going to get my friends together and perform street theater, like sitting around, taking walks, or driving cars.

[Copernicus]

Men hating women isn't just for the internet.

At least they calls them ma'am.

[Jarmel]

Holy fuck at this thread.

http://www.mgtowforums.com/forums/me...-promised.html

It's been 50 years since there were any barriers to women in industry and what have they done? Sweet fuck all. They clog up HR departments and useless middle management jobs. They create and invent absolutely fuck nothing. Their only skill is manipulation - and what is their strongest tool in that regard? Sexuality of course. So having failed to achieve all that their feminist leaders promised them they could they have simply resorted to form. They put sex on display because this period of history has proven that that is indeed all they have to offer. Apart from sex they are about as useful as a condom machine in the Vatican.

Do people seriously think like this?

[Tomat]

/r/atheism is a community for atheists where they can keep to themselves. Comparing that to door to door religion or conservative religious dogma being forced down your throat isn't nearly the same. I'm not sure what you'd expect from Reddit, either. Reddit is not all atheists. I'm an atheist too. Good for you that you don't want a pat on the back. Sometimes a pat on the back is nice when all you've gotten before that was fear for being yourself. Not everyone is like you, or has had your experiences. Thanks for that, because you come off as you're better than everyone you've ever met in your post.

lol, that's not really how atheists on reddit work.

It's also kind of funny that /r/atheism is one of the default subreddits.

My wife is reading about these Gang Stalkers now and she says she can tell the real paranoid schizophrenics from people just trolling because schizophrenics have certain hallmark behaviors and delusions which are really common to paranoid schizophrenics.

Like what? Just curious.

Also in that video of the lady sitting in her car filming the "gang stalkers," you have to admit, they were looking at the camera!

[SquiddyCracker]

Holy fuck at this thread. http://www.mgtowforums.com/forums/me...-promised.html Do people seriously think like this?

Unfortunately, yeah.

[MIMIC]

*reads Gang Stalking description*

So....in other words, they're just your average crazy, paranoid person?

[Dude Abides]

2 servings of alcohol will put any girl under 120 lbs over the limit in the USA (.08). So if you go on a date with a girl you should apparently start taking her keys away from her and calling a cab if she has a second glass of wine. 3 servings of alcohol will put any guy under 140 lbs over the limit. Problem is it can be hard to work out how much you've had because alcohol content in beer can vary, bartenders can pour stronger, and wine glasses can be filled up more than they should for a single serving. Not that it's an excuse, but that's how even well-meaning people get themselves into trouble. Some European countries put the limit at .05, which means that pretty much everyone under 200lbs is going to be legally drunk after 2-2 1/2 drinks.

Thanks. If I recall correctly from junior high health class, time and food also matter, so the 120 lb girl is drinking those margaritas with dinner over 1.5 hours is not at the same BAC as the one who sucks them down on an empty stomach in half an hour.

This discussion seems to be rife with confusion about what "drunk driving" is, and what the "defense force" is actually arguing. If the argument is that current legal BAC limits are so low that one can be over them without being impaired to any significant degree, that's a lot more reasonable and defensible than the argument that it should be legal to drive if you're only a bit impaired by alcohol.

[crazy monkey]

child haters

[travisbickle]

Some European countries put the limit at .05, which means that pretty much everyone under 200lbs is going to be legally drunk after 2-2 1/2 drinks.

You do advocate driving whilst drunk.

[Buttchin]

Yeah the people making those videos are pretty clearly suffering from paranoid delusions and probably full blown schizophrenia.

Probably not. I already mentioned the other psych disorders that are more likely in a previous post.

[Uchip]

Do people seriously think like this?

have to direct the rage that builds up from being rejected time and time again somewhere, right?

[blame space]

I'M SORRY i shouldn't have said militant.. how about just fucking annoying and pointless

[charlequin]

The reality of it does not match up to the tales, so they feel like people have been crying wolf and all that.

I said nothing of the statistics, though I don't think statistics are much of a deterrent for risky behavior, particularly in young people.

Are you really going to hang your hat on "some people might find their anecdotal experience differs from the strongest message they were ever told by authority figures so FUCK YOUR FASCIST 'STATISTICS'" here? Really?

This discussion seems to be rife with confusion about what "drunk driving" is, and what the "defense force" is actually arguing. If the argument is that current legal BAC limits are so low that one can be over them without being impaired to any significant degree, that's a lot more reasonable and defensible than the argument that it should be legal to drive if you're only a bit impaired by alcohol.

The problem here is that reasonable debate about exact BAC limits, punishments for DUI/DWI, methods of enforcement, etc. start from an understanding and acknowledgement of why impaired driving is dangerous -- so dangerous and unacceptable that society has a strong incentive to prevent it. Calling people who agree to this premise "zealots" isn't reasonable argument, it's just apologism.

[brianjones]

I'M SORRY i shouldn't have said militant.. how about just fucking annoying and pointless

i was agreeing w/ u for the record

[blame space]

i know brian, but it's everyone else that's all LOL MILITANT IM NOT MILITANT BRO IM JUST REALLY INTO NOT BELIEVING IN SOMETHING U MADD butthurt etc bullshit that just pisses me off

[Tomat]

i know brian, but it's everyone else that's all LOL MILITANT IM NOT MILITANT BRO IM JUST REALLY INTO NOT BELIEVING IN SOMETHING U MADD butthurt etc bullshit that just pisses me off

Well, you could have just said yes in that case.

[blame space]

i'm so mad. i'm outraged.

[remnant]

Kind of surprised the, "Support mutlimillion dollar business's right to free speech" movement wasn't included.

That's been around for a while. They were called newspapers

["God's Beard!"]

Holy fuck at this thread. http://www.mgtowforums.com/forums/me...-promised.html Do people seriously think like this?

Damn, that's like Devolution, but the opposite.

[davepoobond]

crazy people connecting with OTHER crazy people who have the same crazy mentalities as them?

whodathunkit. its like the internet is used to communicate with people you wouldnt normally be able to otherwise...

[SquiddyCracker]

child haters

Yeah, the internet is pretty great at bringing out the haters of everything.

[blame space]

(i hate hate haters)

[SquiddyCracker]

(i hate hate haters)

Don't you hate militant atheists?