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Originally Posted by QisTopTier: View Post
Yeah Racial Stereotypes is jackpot character design for sure :lol
Like who? From the original 12 I'm only seeing Dhalsim and Zangief as possibles...

Also character design extends to move sets.
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#152

Originally Posted by QisTopTier: View Post
Yeah Racial Stereotypes is jackpot character design for sure :lol
Do you not want to play as Bruce Lee? I certainly fucking do.
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#153

every game has bruce lee
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#154

Originally Posted by Terareflection: View Post
Funny, I think the SF characters lost their luster 10 years ago. *shrug*
I disagree. The characters are memorable and appealing for casual and hardcore players alike. People who haven't played these games since the mid 90s still remember much of the cast of both.
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#155

Originally Posted by Quadratic: View Post
People play what they want to play. Not because "pro's" are playing it. I love watching high level Marvel and SFIV but I'm terrible at both games.

I don't really care if the FGC rejects P4A because of it's mash AAAAAA combo strings and unblockables. I'll still play it because it's fun.
I try to do this as much as i can, figuring out combos and trying out all the modes, but its like Gutabo said, you do end up playing what everyone else is playing because sometimes you just can't find anyone to verse in obscure game X Y or Z.
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#156

Finally Max plays KoF. I was waiting for him to make a vid.
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#157

MarlinPie, Quotes and LordKnight at Salty Battles. Chris G may be going as well.
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#158

Any P4:Arena stream tonight? I can't stop watching it. x(
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#159

Originally Posted by CPS2: View Post
I try to do this as much as i can, figuring out combos and trying out all the modes, but its like Gutabo said, you do end up playing what everyone else is playing because sometimes you just can't find anyone to verse in obscure game X Y or Z.
GGPO is pretty awesome.
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Originally Posted by Arde5643: View Post
Any P4:Arena stream tonight? I can't stop watching it. x(
8wayrun right now.
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#161

Originally Posted by Arde5643: View Post
Any P4:Arena stream tonight? I can't stop watching it. x(
26 entrants atm for Salty Battles
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#162

Originally Posted by rCIZZLE: View Post
Like who? From the original 12 I'm only seeing Dhalsim and Zangief as possibles...
E. Honda: Japanese sumo wrestler
Balrog: Mike Tyson
Chun-Li: Chinese dragon lady
Guile: US military
Sagat: Thai kickboxer
Ryu: Japanese karate master

Originally Posted by QisTopTier: View Post
Yeah Racial Stereotypes is jackpot character design for sure :lol
It worked really well though. Once Capcom went away from that in SF3 and SF4, the cast really fell apart. Not to mention the weakest designs of SF2 were the non-stereotypes. eg. Blanka (fucking mutant pokemon) and Vega (Spanish ninja bringing claws to a fist fight).
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#163

Kyohei playing P4A right now on Salty Battles.
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#164

Originally Posted by enzo_gt: View Post
Kyohei playing P4A right now on Salty Battles.
It's like they made Chie just for him. She fits his style perfectly.
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#165

I wish there was a stereotypical ninja in SF, like Kage.
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#166

Originally Posted by sleepykyo: View Post
E. Honda: Japanese sumo wrestler
Balrog: Mike Tyson
Chun-Li: Chinese dragon lady
Guile: US military
Sagat: Thai kickboxer
Ryu: Japanese karate master



It worked really well though. Once Capcom went away from that in SF3 and SF4, the cast really fell apart. Not to mention the weakest designs of SF2 were the non-stereotypes. eg. Blanka (fucking mutant pokemon) and Vega (Spanish ninja bringing claws to a fist fight).
I'm actually going to backpedal and say Dhalsim is the only racially motivated character from the original 12. US military and Mike Tyson definitely aren't races. Honda is a sumo wrestler in the only country known for the sport. Plus there are many other Asian characters that aren't sumo wrestlers so it's hardly enforcing a racial stereotype.

Really only a few characters can be deemed racial stereotypes to the point of being offensive.

Blanka is one of the most memorable characters when you bring in his moveset which is part of the design.
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#167

Originally Posted by rCIZZLE: View Post
I'm actually going to backpedal and say Dhalsim is the only racially motivated character from the original 12. US military and Mike Tyson definitely aren't races. Honda is a sumo wrestler in the only country known for the sport. Plus there are many other Asian characters that aren't sumo wrestlers so it's hardly enforcing a racial stereotype.
Angry Vietnam vet and classless black boxer don't seem like stereotypes to you?

Originally Posted by ThatCrazyGuy: View Post
I wish there was a stereotypical ninja in SF, like Kage.
Only if he uses to coastal karate. I want to see some of that Chinese/Japanese hybrid style. Oh and have Abel drop his judo for French kickboxing.
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#168

Originally Posted by sleepykyo: View Post
It worked really well though. Once Capcom went away from that in SF3 and SF4, the cast really fell apart. Not to mention the weakest designs of SF2 were the non-stereotypes. eg. Blanka (fucking mutant pokemon) and Vega (Spanish ninja bringing claws to a fist fight).
I'd say Street Fighter hit it's creative zenith after SFII. Most of the cast from the SFIII series are memorable and more creative than inserting a stereotypical occupation into some character.

It's a lot more fun when things get more imaginative. Blanka is sort of imaginative, but really wtf at the same time.
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#169

This Persona song sounds like it's straight out of Sonic Adventure. (8WR)
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#170

idk, when I first saw Balrog, I thought of Mike Tyson, not boxers in general.

When I first saw Dudley, I thought of old school boxers in general, not anybody in particular.

Mike Tyson should go to capcom HQ and punch somebody! Great reality tv. somebody should play SF/Balrog in front of him to get his reaction on camera.
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Originally Posted by SolarPowered: View Post
I'd say Street Fighter hit it's creative zenith after SFII. Most of the cast from the SFIII series are memorable and more creative than inserting a stereotypical occupation into some character.

It's a lot more fun when things get more imaginative. Blanka is sort of imaginative, but really wtf at the same time.
Eh, I would say the SFIII notable characters are more creative but nowhere near as memorable considering how huge SFII was.

SFII nostalgia and it's impact is partially the reason why I put SF characters so high in terms of character design. Yeah it's stereotypical, but it works, and that's kind of part of the charm.

My favourite SF character is Sakura, and I wouldn't call her creative really, but there's considerable charm there.
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#172

Originally Posted by sleepykyo: View Post
Angry Vietnam vet and classless black boxer don't seem like stereotypes to you?
Being a Vietnam vet, which I didn't even know until now, hardly had more to do with him standing the test of time than "sonic boom" and "flash kick".

Sounds like you're a little racist if that's what you think of Rog. I see him as the fictional version of legendary boxer Mike Tyson.
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#173

Originally Posted by rCIZZLE: View Post
Being a Vietnam vet, which I didn't even know until now, hardly had more to do with him standing the test of time than "sonic boom" and "flash kick".

Sounds like you're a little racist if that's what you think of Rog. I see him as the fictional version of legendary boxer Mike Tyson.
Cause he is. (Japanese name: M. Bison. They swapped the names around to try and duck legal action in the US.)
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Balrog is 1000000% Mike Tyson.

His name was original name was Mike Bison, and he just happened to be a short undersized boxer with a the punching power to knock you the fuck out.

Yea okay... Capcom who you think you were fooling?

Oh and he loves women and gambling...
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#175

Originally Posted by WesternHeretic: View Post
Balrog is 1000000% Mike Tyson.

His name was original name was Mike Bison, and he just happened to be a short undersized boxer with a the punching power to knock you the fuck out.

Yea okay... Capcom who you think you were fooling?
Capcom didn't think they were fooling anyone.

Their intent with most of their designs is pretty explicit as homages to great fighters and arts.
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#176

Originally Posted by ThatCrazyGuy: View Post
I wish there was a stereotypical ninja in SF, like Kage.
IBUKI, ON THE SCENE
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#177

If you look at Balrogs art in SF2 its Tyson. Obviously.
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Guys, I know where his name came from lol. Part of my point... they put Mike Tyson into the game, not just a fictional stereotype.
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#179

Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
IBUKI, ON THE SCENE
Ibuki's not a typical ninja. She's just looking for love.
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#180

Originally Posted by rCIZZLE: View Post
Being a Vietnam vet, which I didn't even know until now, hardly had more to do with him standing the test of time than "sonic boom" and "flash kick".

Sounds like you're a little racist if that's what you think of Rog. I see him as the fictional version of legendary boxer Mike Tyson.
Balrog is US style boxer grabs his opponent and proceeds to headbutt them. How is that not classless? Like it could have been worse and he could gone for earbiting, but Rog is no way Dudley.
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#181

Chris G complaining about how his character is ass.
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#182

Originally Posted by Professor Beef: View Post
IBUKI, ON THE SCENE
In my manly dudikoff world, I have no time to pay heed to little teenage girl ninjas!
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#183

EX series had great characters. I want Arika back.
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#184

Mike Bison is undersized? He's suppose to be 6'5 and his size in the actual game shows it as he towers over smaller fighters like Ryu even in the original SF2.

But that doesn't really explain how SF2 Vega(claw) is as tall as Sagat, especially during his win pose despite him being 6'1
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#185

Originally Posted by ThatCrazyGuy: View Post
I wish there was a stereotypical ninja in SF, like Kage.
Geki, yo.

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#186

Originally Posted by Lazy vs Crazy: View Post
Chris G complaining about how his character is ass.
But supposedly anybody can win in p4a =O except some matchups
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#187

So GAF, according to the Monster Hunter thread Capcom is announcing a new game at their conference at Gamescom in 8 hours? DARKSTALKERS MEHBEH? I figured since others are expecting their game to be announced this time around, it's a perfect time for them to get screwed over and Darkstalkers to finally get announced.

Whatcha think?
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#188

Originally Posted by Rice-Eater: View Post
Mike Bison is undersized? He's suppose to be 6'5 and his size in the actual game shows it as he towers over smaller fighters like Ryu even in the original SF2.

But that doesn't really explain how SF2 Vega(claw) is as tall as Sagat, especially during his win pose despite him being 6'1
Yea I never got that either. He's listed at 6'5 but they always made him undersized. I understand he has the peek-a-boo stance but damn.
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#189

Originally Posted by Lazy vs Crazy: View Post
Chris G complaining about how his character is ass.
Chris G being Chris G. He temporarily dropped Xiaoyu after Infiltration's Ryu proved insurmountable.
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#190

Originally Posted by enzo_gt: View Post
So GAF, according to the Monster Hunter thread Capcom is announcing a new game at their conference at Gamescom in 8 hours? DARKSTALKERS MEHBEH? I figured since others are expecting their game to be announced this time around, it's a perfect time for them to get screwed over and Darkstalkers to finally get announced.

Whatcha think?
JoJo's HD.
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt: View Post
So GAF, according to the Monster Hunter thread Capcom is announcing a new game at their conference at Gamescom in 8 hours? DARKSTALKERS MEHBEH? I figured since others are expecting their game to be announced this time around, it's a perfect time for them to get screwed over and Darkstalkers to finally get announced.

Whatcha think?
highly unlikely. If anything it would be at TGS for DS considering how big DS is in japan compared to the rest of the world.
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#192

Dieminion saying people who hate SF X T hate it because they are sheep

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/a...t-enough-shot/
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Originally Posted by Grecco: View Post
Dieminion saying people who hate SF X T hate it because they are sheep

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/a...t-enough-shot/
I don't "hate" SFxT I just don't like it and prefer to play something else.
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Originally Posted by Grecco: View Post
Dieminion saying people who hate SF X T hate it because they are sheep

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/a...t-enough-shot/
....no. It's just not fun. SFIV is better, so if I want to play SF, why would I play it?
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Originally Posted by OceanBlue: View Post
JoJo's HD.
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt: View Post
So GAF, according to the Monster Hunter thread Capcom is announcing a new game at their conference at Gamescom in 8 hours? DARKSTALKERS MEHBEH? I figured since others are expecting their game to be announced this time around, it's a perfect time for them to get screwed over and Darkstalkers to finally get announced.

Whatcha think?
The last time a "new game" was being announced, it was JoJo's. I believe in nothing until I SEE IT.
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt: View Post
So GAF, according to the Monster Hunter thread Capcom is announcing a new game at their conference at Gamescom in 8 hours? DARKSTALKERS MEHBEH? I figured since others are expecting their game to be announced this time around, it's a perfect time for them to get screwed over and Darkstalkers to finally get announced.

Whatcha think?


It's going to be Street Fighter IV: "Oh wait, we released this already? And people have been playing it for 4 years now? Fuck it released again!" edition with screenshots including Daigo vs. Poongko at EVO 2011.

Let's not go through this again.
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Originally Posted by Grecco: View Post
Dieminion saying people who hate SF X T hate it because they are sheep

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2012/a...t-enough-shot/
He definitely has a point. A lot of top players, such as Ricky Ortiz, Justin, and PR Balrog, seem to be enjoying SFxT as well.
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Originally Posted by enzo_gt: View Post
So GAF, according to the Monster Hunter thread Capcom is announcing a new game at their conference at Gamescom in 8 hours? DARKSTALKERS MEHBEH? I figured since others are expecting their game to be announced this time around, it's a perfect time for them to get screwed over and Darkstalkers to finally get announced.

Whatcha think?

Dead Rising 3. It wont be a fighting game.
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Originally Posted by xCobalt: View Post
He definitely has a point. A lot of top players, such as Ricky Ortiz, Justin, and PR Balrog, seem to be enjoying SFxT as well.
Is that why they didn't even bother to finish their GF matches at Evo?