[ChiTownBuffalo]

I was thinking no, more like this, instead of kids, politicians:

That skews it in the favor of South Korea too much.

[numble]

Baaaahahaha, no way Hong Kongers would fight for Chinese nationalism. They were set up.

They carried the Republic of China (aka Taiwan) flag amongst their flags.


People assume Chinese nationalism involves pro-Communist party or even pro-mainlander sentiment, it does not. People in the cities hating on migrant workers and farmers that make up the majority of the population also does not mean its incompatible with nationalism. Hating on Japan does not mean liking the Communist party.

[dondarm]

I was thinking no, more like this, instead of kids, politicians:

Only if we get a remake for the western world.

[Hasardeur]

so exactly how many disputes are there over small Japanese islands?

[numble]

Communist asslickers amirite

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/n...n-supplies.htm

Taiwan supplies food to Tiaoyu-bound HK boat TAIPEI -- Taiwan's Coast Guard Administration (CGA) provided food supplies yesterday to a Hong Kong vessel on its way to the disputed Tiaoyu Islands in the East China Sea, Premier Sean Chen said. The premier also reasserted Taiwan's claim to the Tiaoyutais, saying that based on national archives, historical documents and even Japan's official data, the island chain indisputably belongs to Taiwan, in accordance with international law. Lying about 100 nautical miles off Taiwan's northeastern tip, the Tiaoyutais are currently controlled by Japan, but are also claimed by Taiwan and China. The waters around the Tiaoyutais were once Taiwan's traditional fishing grounds. The United States took control of the island group after World War II and handed them over to Japan, along with Okinawa, in 1972. A group of Hong Kong activists were on their way to the Tiaoyutais aboard the Kai Fung No. 2 on Tuesday to assert their claim that the island group belongs to the Chinese people. The activists sought to restock supplies as their ship approached Keelung Harbor in northern Taiwan early Wednesday. Responding to reporters' questions about the request, Premier Chen said the CGA delivered food supplies to the Hong Kong boat via a patrol vessel. The CGA also said in press statement issued the same day that it had provided frozen pork, chicken fillets, vegetables and drinking water to the Hong Kong activists. CGA officers also boarded the Kai Fung No. 2 for a brief inspection and confirmed that it had adequate fuel and all 14 people on board were in good health, the statement said. ...

[BocoDragon]

Not even crackheads right over rocks this much.

[markot]

So, which tiny island in Asia will be the first to trigger a big ass war? Im guessing spratly.

Taiwan claims more of China then China itself does, Mongolia... etc...

[Castor Krieg]

People assume Chinese nationalism involves pro-Communist party or even pro-mainlander sentiment, it does not. People in the cities hating on migrant workers and farmers that make up the majority of the population also does not mean its incompatible with nationalism. Hating on Japan does not mean liking the Communist party.

Except the fact people in Hong Kong love Japan and everything Japanese, there is even a famous pastry store chain with a character "の" in it, which doesn't exist in Chinese language. Not to mention Cantonese people couldn't care less about stupid rock, they are too busy making money.

[maomaoIYP]

People assume Chinese nationalism involves pro-Communist party or even pro-mainlander sentiment, it does not. People in the cities hating on migrant workers and farmers that make up the majority of the population also does not mean its incompatible with nationalism. Hating on Japan does not mean liking the Communist party.

Once again numble gets it. Thanks numble, you are the man.

[markot]

Except the fact people in Hong Kong love Japan and everything Japanese, there is even a famous pastry store chain with a character "の" in it, which doesn't exist in Chinese language. Not to mention Cantonese people couldn't care less about stupid rock, they are too busy making money.

Nationalism does strange things to people. Taiwan supports everything mainland China does in these regards. And they arent all that friendly usually.

Liking an aspect of a culture doesnt mean ignoring 'our land'.

Old chinese saying, better to lose 10 thousand troops then one inch of land. (Something like that >.<)

There are tonnes of these disputes in the Asia pacific.

And these tiny islands generally have lots of potential resources that go with them. Economics + Nationalism...

[numble]

Except the fact people in Hong Kong love Japan and everything Japanese, there is even a famous pastry store chain with a character "の" in it, which doesn't exist in Chinese language. Not to mention Cantonese people couldn't care less about stupid rock, they are too busy making money.

Hong Kongers have been interested in the islands since before the handover, for some reason:
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/08/wo...hong-kong.html

I guess it was because a Hong Konger on a boat drowned when the Japanese coast guard tried to arrest him:

Isle Furor Stirs Chinese Nationalism in Hong Kong By EDWARD A. GARGAN Published: October 08, 1996 A wave of emotional, and sometimes fevered, Chinese nationalism is washing over Hong Kong, a surge of patriotism that has found a focus in Japanese claims to a sprinkling of islands near Taiwan and the drowning of a local man trying to reclaim those islands for a China to which this British colony does not yet belong. Cliche has it that Hong Kongers are interested only in money and business, but this explosion of nationalist fervor has brought tens of thousands of people onto the streets and launched flotillas of boats toward the disputed islands, known as the Senkakus to the Japanese and the Diaoyus to Chinese. It has also fired barrages of criticism against Beijing, which will take control of Hong Kong in July, for weakness in the face of what is seen as rising Japanese militarism.

People in China like Uniqlo and Yoshinoya, doesn't mean they don't get angry about Japan everytime you mention Nanjing or the Yasakuni shrine.

[DGRE]

Really what the hell is going on. Korean president says if the japan emperor wants to visit Korea he needs to apologize and then visits takeshima. And the Senkaku islands with the Chinese. Gtfo our islands Asian neighbors. Tks.

Or maybe china is a greedy pos and the Korean president is looki for an easy way to raise his ratings at home. China and Korea won't be happy wih Japan until it suffers and is poorer than them.

I'm sorry but, in case you didn't know, Korean presidents can only have one term in office and can never be re-elected, so that really doesn't make sense.

I think the whole Dokdo thing is ridiculous but Korea does have a lot of compelling evidence for why the island is truly theirs and not Japan's.

[Quick]

We need something more rhymey.

Kicking Asses in the Senkakus.

[Pizarro]

Curious, what does Macau think of the mainland?

[Canis lupus]

Hope it doesnt escalate.

[Friedreich]

Kicking Asses in the Senkakus.

That doesn't rhyme at all.

[Natetan]

I'm sorry but, in case you didn't know, Korean presidents can only have one term in office and can never be re-elected, so that really doesn't make sense. I think the whole Dokdo thing is ridiculous but Korea does have a lot of compelling evidence for why the island is truly theirs and not Japan's.

so why go visit takeshima when the whole senkaku issue is erupting again? It makes zero sense. Unless they are concerned the chinese are going to claim takeshima or something, then sure i guess it makes sense. But all the anti-japanese jingoism coming from the korea prez is just dumb.

i said earlier, i think japan should just let them have takeshima. Honestly though, I think the Koreans and Chinese governments will just keep picking something until all of japan is under the poverty the line while they have money and are successful. too many decades living in poverty after the war have made a lot of people bitter.

And I call it takeshima not out of some sovereignty issue, but because that's what they call it here. I'm not to call germany deutschland or Japan Nippon when I'm talking english.

[numble]

And I call it takeshima not out of some sovereignty issue, but because that's what they call it here. I'm not to call germany deutschland or Japan Nippon when I'm talking english.

That doesn't make sense. You call Nippon Japan, so why call the islands/islets with the Japanese name when it has an English name, the Liancourt Rocks?

[numble]

Wall Street Journal: Don’t Call Us Unpatriotic, Hong Kong Says
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...ce=twitterfeed

We don’t need patriotism lessons, Hong Kongers say—and yesterday’s successful landing on the contested Senkaku Islands proves it. On Thursday, local newspapers across the city carried full-page spreads showing photos of Hong Kong activists waving Chinese flags as they waded jubilantly through the water to reach the shores of the Senkaku Islands, which are controlled by Japan but also claimed by China, where they are known as the Diaoyu Islands. Headlines lauded members of the Bao Diao II—or “Defend the Diaoyu II”—as brave heroes. After a crew landed on the islands, singing China’s national anthem, Hong Kong’s microbloggers were likewise quick to erupt in expressions of national sentiment. “Hong Kong people planted the five-starred red flag on the Diaoyu Islands. In the future, who will dare to say that we Hong Kong people don’t love our country? Today is a day that Hong Kongers should be proud of!” wrote one user on Sina Weibo’s popular microblogging platform. In recent months, Hong Kong’s plans to implement national education lessons in public schools have met fierce resistance among locals, who deride such curriculum as “brainwashing.” Last month, up to 90,000 people took to the streets to oppose the plan. But on Thursday, locals argued that the Senkaku landing proved how patriotic Hong Kong residents already are. “Who else has the bravery to land on Diaoyu Islands? Only we Hong Kong people had the guts to go do it! Even though we didn’t have any support, our boat landed on the island, and [the crew] even planted a Chinese flag and sang the national song! Please don’t say we don’t love our country!” wrote one microblogger. Though the city’s pan-democrats are often at loggerheads with Beijing, supporters behind the Action Committee for Defending the Diaoyu Islands—which backed this week’s voyage—include some of the city’s most prominent pro-democratic voices, including radical activist Leung Kwok-hung and Albert Ho, who chairs the city’s Democratic Party. The city’s history of activism surrounding the Senkaku Islands traces back for decades, including marches in the 1990s that numbered in the thousands and boycotts of Japanese products in the 1970s. The 14 members of the crew were arrested after landing by Japanese authorities and charged with violating immigration control. Police will decide within 48 hours whether to send them to immigration control, at which point they can be deported, or to send them to the prosecutors. Earlier this year, a University of Hong Kong survey found that just 37% of Hong Kong residents say they’re proud of having become Chinese citizens in the aftermath of the 1997 handover, the lowest figure since 2001. But when it comes to occasional tensions between mainland China and Hong Kong, says Sik Hung Ng, social psychology professor at Hong Kong’s CityU, it helps to have a common goal. “Sometimes it may seem there’s conflict between the identity of being a Hong Konger and being a Chinese, but there’s little conflict when it comes to situations when there’s another [party] confronting you,” said Mr. Ng. “It’s a beautiful thing in the context of the national education debate,” said political observer Cheung Chor-yung of this week’s Senkaku landing. “It shows that you can love your country without loving the party. It really reflects who we are as Hong Kong people.” That patriotic sentiment, however, wasn’t enough to quell Beijing’s discomfiture over one aspect of the activists’ expedition. When the activists made their way to the islands, they were waving a trio of flags, including a Chinese, a Hong Kong and a Taiwanese flag—the last of which some mainland newspapers tried assiduously to crop out of the pictures. In addition to China and Japan, Taiwan also claims sovereignty over the Senkaku Islands.

[MasterOfPastures]

Solve these disputes the old way: have an impartial third party mediate negotiations and settle on a compromise alliance between China, Korea and Japan to exploit the resources.
Done.
If they can't put aside their nationalism or old shames, fuck them all.

[Natetan]

That doesn't make sense. You call Nippon Japan, so why call the islands/islets with the Japanese name when it has an English name, the Liancourt Rocks?

i meant i dont call japan nippon

[numble]

Pretty crazy blocking manuever by the Japanese Coast Guard:

i meant i dont call japan nippon

So why do you call the Liancourt Rocks "Takeshima"?

[Natetan]

Pretty crazy blocking manuever by the Japanese Coast Guard: So why do you call the Liancourt Rocks "Takeshima"?

the same reason i don't call taiwan formosa and the pescadores. no one around me calls it that.

[ChiTownBuffalo]

Pretty crazy blocking manuever by the Japanese Coast Guard: So why do you call the Liancourt Rocks "Takeshima"?

Well, either he is Japanese.

Or a weeaboo of a magnitude I personally have never ever seen before.

I just assumed Japanese. Which is why I don't get mad about rooting for the home team.

[numble]

the same reason i don't call taiwan formosa and the pescadores. no one around me calls it that.

Taiwan is not a disputed name.
Takeshima/Dokdo are disputed, and using either of those names to refer to them demonstrate a preference for one side.

The US government refers to Dokdo/Takeshima as the Liancourt Rocks, even the Wall Street Journal refers to them as the Liancourt Rocks, and says that is the common international name.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...363545026.html

[Natetan]

Taiwan is not a disputed name. Takeshima/Dokdo are disputed, and using either of those names to refer to them demonstrate a preference for one side. The US government refers to Dokdo/Takeshima as the Liancourt Rocks, even the Wall Street Journal refers to them as the Liancourt Rocks, and says that is the common international name. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...363545026.html

im not in the us...

[numble]

im not in the us...

I'm not to call germany deutschland or Japan Nippon when I'm talking english.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...363545026.html

"Dokdo is truly our territory," Mr. Lee said during the visit, the first by a South Korean president to the territory, known as Takeshima in Japan and as Liancourt Rocks by the U.S. and other parties outside the dispute.

The disputed islets are referred to as Liancourt Rocks internationally.

[Natetan]

say what you want, im not going to call it that.

I'll also never call it the east sea

[Amalthea]

"That ugly rock in the sea belongs to us!"
"No, it belongs to us!"

Real politics.

[numble]

say what you want, im not going to call it that. I'll also never call it the east sea

I think there's some cognitive dissonance going on when you insist on saying you'll use English names (Germany instead of Deutschland, Japan instead of Nippon), and then believing that it is compatible with using the name Takeshima. If you insist on using the English name, why not use the English name? Even if the rocks were handed to Korea, they'd still be referred to by their English name.

This is just like using "Keikaku" instead of "plan".

[midonnay]

Pretty crazy blocking manuever by the Japanese Coast Guard:

clearly stole a sea shepard move....

[Kuro Madoushi]

To clarify - they don't hate China, they are Chinese. They hate Communist party, and Mainlanders that come to HK and take places in hospital, inflate real estate prices and shit in the middle of MTR stations.

Finally some sense in here. Most protests in HK against 'China' are referring to the government there.

[Quick]

That doesn't rhyme at all.

It rhymed just fine at 4 in the morning, hah.

[ArjanN]

That doesn't rhyme at all.

Senkaku Nunchaku

[linsivvi]

Hope it doesnt escalate.

It won't. They have been doing it for decades.

Japan won't give it up because their politicians need to appease their crazies/nationalists. Same reason why some of their high ranking officials would visit the shrine with WW2 criminals (which they just did again yesterday), even though it's a big no no for very obvious reason.

China won't give it up due to face and the resources underneath.

It's just a stalemate and both sides playing games to maintain the status quo.

[DGRE]

so why go visit takeshima when the whole senkaku issue is erupting again? It makes zero sense. Unless they are concerned the chinese are going to claim takeshima or something, then sure i guess it makes sense. But all the anti-japanese jingoism coming from the korea prez is just dumb. i said earlier, i think japan should just let them have takeshima. Honestly though, I think the Koreans and Chinese governments will just keep picking something until all of japan is under the poverty the line while they have money and are successful. too many decades living in poverty after the war have made a lot of people bitter. And I call it takeshima not out of some sovereignty issue, but because that's what they call it here. I'm not to call germany deutschland or Japan Nippon when I'm talking english.

Do you know anything about the history between Japan and Korea? No one is bitter about the poverty in Korea after the war. They are bitter about the decades long occupation and Japan's refusal to acknowledge war crimes they had committed in Korea, such as using Koreans for scientific experimentation, using Korean women as sex slaves, etc. They even dismantled a prison in Seoul as they were leaving Korea, where Koreans were regularly tortured to try and cover up what they had been doing.


Let me be very clear. It really bothers me how much bitterness Koreans harbor towards Japan. They act like they are the only country in the world that has ever had another country do something bad to them. It's absurd. I taught children (I'm in Korea, currently) that thought the tsunami last year was funny/good. I hate that the older generation still tries to indoctrinate the younger generation with hate. It is disgusting.

All of that is to say that Japan is in no way the victim here. Despite all the ignorance I've never heard a Korean explicitly say their wish in life is for Japan to become a poverty stricken nation, so I don't think it's fair that you're framing it that way.

[Razgriz-Specter]

clearly stole a sea shepard move....

LOL was going to post the same thing.

[Zefah]

Do you know anything about the history between Japan and Korea? No one is bitter about the poverty in Korea after the war. They are bitter about the decades long occupation and Japan's refusal to acknowledge war crimes they had committed in Korea, such as using Koreans for scientific experimentation, using Korean women as sex slaves, etc. They even dismantled a prison in Seoul as they were leaving Korea, where Koreans were regularly tortured to try and cover up what they had been doing. Let me be very clear. It really bothers me how much bitterness Koreans harbor towards Japan. They act like they are the only country in the world that has ever had another country do something bad to them. It's absurd. I taught children (I'm in Korea, currently) that thought the tsunami last year was funny/good. I hate that the older generation still tries to indoctrinate the younger generation with hate. It is disgusting. All of that is to say that Japan is in no way the victim here. Despite all the ignorance I've never heard a Korean explicitly say their wish in life is for Japan to become a poverty stricken nation, so I don't think it's fair that you're framing it that way.

But there have been many official apologies and massive amounts of reparations paid out. When is it enough? Who gets to decide that?

[Lesath]

We need something more rhymey.

How about some alliteration instead?

Senkaku Slaughter.

[DGRE]

But there have been many official apologies and massive amounts of reparations paid out. When is it enough? Who gets to decide that?

List of War Apologies by Japan

You're right. I guess a lot of Koreans question the sincerity of any official apologies. I agree with you. What does the Japanese government of today have to do with what happened 100 years ago?I have no clue. Even further, what do the Japanese people of today have to do with what happened 100 years ago?

I wasn't saying it was reasonable, I was simply saying that Natetan's listed reason for their bitterness is hardly the only factor or maybe not even a main factor in their bitterness.

[Kazerei]

People assume Chinese nationalism involves pro-Communist party or even pro-mainlander sentiment, it does not. People in the cities hating on migrant workers and farmers that make up the majority of the population also does not mean its incompatible with nationalism. Hating on Japan does not mean liking the Communist party.

While Hong Kongers self-identify as Chinese, there is hardly any sentiment of nationalism towards China.

I agree a person can be a Chinese nationalist without being pro-Communist party, but that's not even the case with Hong Kong.

[numble]

While Hong Kongers self-identify as Chinese, there is hardly any sentiment of nationalism towards China. I agree a person can be a Chinese nationalist without being pro-Communist party, but that's not even the case with Hong Kong.

That's just not true. How do you explain this:
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/08/wo...hong-kong.html

Or this article, which says even Leung Kwok-hung and Albert Ho supports the boatmen?
http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...ce=twitterfeed

Besides, the June 4 demonstrations, held every year, are the greatest nationalist demonstrations existing in China (Not to be compared with July demonstrations. Which focus on Hong Kong).

[squidyj]

I think there's some cognitive dissonance going on when you insist on saying you'll use English names (Germany instead of Deutschland, Japan instead of Nippon), and then believing that it is compatible with using the name Takeshima. If you insist on using the English name, why not use the English name? Even if the rocks were handed to Korea, they'd still be referred to by their English name. This is just like using "Keikaku" instead of "plan".

I don't bother using the english names of things. Instead I use the most common and understandable word available to me to describe things such that people I'm conversing with will understand what I'm talking about. Hard and fast rules about what to use where are ridiculous.

[Kazerei]

That's just not true. How do you explain this: http://www.nytimes.com/1996/10/08/wo...hong-kong.html Or this article, which says even Leung Kwok-hung and Albert Ho supports the boatmen? http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/2...ce=twitterfeed Besides, the June 4 demonstrations, held every year, are the greatest nationalist demonstrations existing in China (Not to be compared with July demonstrations. Which focus on Hong Kong).

Ehh, don't think those arguments are helping. First article is from 1996, before the handover. Second article is suggesting a spark of patriotism where the norm has generally been non-patriotism. And the June 4 demonstrations are nationalist demonstrations? Are you kidding me?

This part of the second article gave me a good laugh though.

That patriotic sentiment, however, wasn’t enough to quell Beijing’s discomfiture over one aspect of the activists’ expedition. When the activists made their way to the islands, they were waving a trio of flags, including a Chinese, a Hong Kong and a Taiwanese flag—the last of which some mainland newspapers tried assiduously to crop out of the pictures.

[numble]

Ehh, don't think those arguments are helping. First article is from 1996, before the handover. Second article is suggesting a spark of patriotism where the norm has generally been non-patriotism. And the June 4 demonstrations are nationalist demonstrations? Are you kidding me? This part of the second article gave me a good laugh though.

Nationalist sentiment before the handover does carry over. Especially when it's the exact same issue. Have you seen the newspapers all over Hong Kong talking about the brave boatmen? How do you explain the most popular anti-Communist politicians support for the boatmen? The second article goes into detail Hong Kong's history of nationalism over the islands--it doesn't suggest that this is a spark.

Have you ever attended a June 4 rally? They go through pains to paint themselves and the 1989 demonstators as patriots that love their country, and the most popular chant is a tame request for the government to reevaluate their actions.

I work for a Hong Kong organization that's banned in China (including not allowing 3 of my coworkers to enter the Mainland) and my Hong Kong coworkers still tell me that the gymnast judges conspired to prevent Chen Yibing from getting a gold medal and they were all groaning with dismay when Liu Xiang failed at the hurdles.

[Kazerei]

Nationalist sentiment before the handover does carry over. Especially when it's the exact same issue. Have you seen the newspapers all over Hong Kong talking about the brave boatmen? How do you explain the most popular anti-Communist politicians support for the boatmen? Have you ever attended a June 4 rally? They go through pains to paint themselves and the 1989 demonstators as patriots that love their country, and the most popular chant is a tame request for the government to reevaluate their actions. I work for a Hong Kong organization that's banned in China (including not allowing 3 of my coworkers to enter the Mainland) and my Hong Kong coworkers still tell me that the gymnast judges conspired to prevent Chen Yibing from getting a gold medal and they were all groaning with dismay when Liu Xiang failed at the hurdles.

Nationalist sentiment changes over the years. Even one of the articles you linked to mentioned wrote "Earlier this year, a University of Hong Kong survey found that just 37% of Hong Kong residents said they were proud of having become Chinese citizens in the aftermath of the city’s 1997 handover from British to Chinese control, the lowest figure since 2001. "

I do follow Hong Kong news via SCMP and OMNI News in Canada. So far their journalists have been pretty impartial regarding the dispute, the way journalists should be. Haven't heard them call the boatmen "brave". Which newspapers are you speaking of?

And which popular anti-Communist politicians do you mean? Some prominent Hong Kong politicians are pro-democracy, but that doesn't mean they're anti-Communist. They wouldn't make it far if they were anti-Communist.

I've been in Hong Kong twice during June 4, but never actually went out to Victoria Park, admittedly. They certainly praise the Tiananmen Square protestors are heroes, but I wouldn't describe any of it as "nationalist".

So you work for Falun Gong? That explains alot.

[Yottamole]

Old chinese saying, better to lose 10 thousand troops then one inch of land. (Something like that >.<)

Sounds like a Charlie Chan quote.

[numble]

Nationalist sentiment changes over the years. Even one of the articles you linked to mentioned wrote "Earlier this year, a University of Hong Kong survey found that just 37% of Hong Kong residents said they were proud of having become Chinese citizens in the aftermath of the city’s 1997 handover from British to Chinese control, the lowest figure since 2001. " I do follow Hong Kong news via SCMP and OMNI News in Canada. So far their journalists have been pretty impartial regarding the dispute, the way journalists should be. Haven't heard them call the boatmen "brave". Which newspapers are you speaking of? And which popular anti-Communist politicians do you mean? Some prominent Hong Kong politicians are pro-democracy, but that doesn't mean they're anti-Communist. They wouldn't make it far if they were anti-Communist. I've been in Hong Kong twice during June 4, but never actually went out to Victoria Park, admittedly. They certainly praise the Tiananmen Square protestors are heroes, but I wouldn't describe any of it as "nationalist". So you work for Falun Gong? That explains alot.

Those survey results are a red herring. The survey also includes options for identifying as "Hong Kong Chinese citizen" "Chinese Hong Kong citizen" "Hong Kong citizen" and "Chinese citizen." Besides, you can say you are not proud of America due to Guantanamo and Iraq, but still be patriotic.

I would call SCMP an international paper based in Hong Kong. I was talking about local papers like Ming Pao, Sing Tao, Apple Daily, Sing Pao, etc.

You must have forgotten the second article:

On Thursday, local newspapers across the city carried full-page spreads showing photos of Hong Kong activists waving Chinese flags as they waded jubilantly through the water to reach the shores of the Senkaku Islands, which are controlled by Japan but also claimed by China, where they are known as the Diaoyu Islands. Headlines lauded members of the Bao Diao II—or “Defend the Diaoyu II”—as brave heroes.

I already mentioned Leung Kwok-hung (aka Long Hair). He publicly burned the PRC flag--you can't get more anti-Communist than that.

I don't work for the Falun Gong.

Edit: here's the BBC summing up HK papers:

The Hong Kong Standard and its sister Chinese newspaper Sing Tao Daily hailed the activists as "heroes". The editorial of pro-Beijing Wen Wei Po newspaper called the arrests "illegal", warning Tokyo of "dire consequences" if it did not ensure the detainees' safety. Ming Pao Daily News' editorial appeals for more "concrete action" to end Japan's control of the islands, as it criticises the Chinese, Hong Kong and Taiwanese governments for "obstructing" similar protests in recent years.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-19279384

[linsivvi]

Those survey results are a red herring. The survey also includes options for identifying as "Hong Kong Chinese citizen" "Chinese Hong Kong citizen" "Hong Kong citizen" and "Chinese citizen." I would call SCMP an international paper based in Hong Kong. I was talking about local papers like Ming Pao, Sing Tao, Apple Daily, Sing Pao, etc. You must have forgotten the second article: I already mentioned Leung Kwok-hung (aka Long Hair). He publicly burned the PRC flag--you can't get more anti-Communist than that. I don't work for the Falun Gong.

I love how he pretends to know everything there is about a population and make generalized comments when he doesn't even live there.

SCMP isn't even mildly representative of the local media.

And then he made a bogus guess about who you work for.

[numble]

This Hong Konger's blog seems to explain the sentiment well:

http://biglychee.com/blog/2012/08/15...dness-du-jour/

More nostalgia: amateur seafaring heroes are sailing off in rickety vessels to reclaim the Diaoyu/Senkaku Islands from Japan. As they have for decades… ... This goes back to the 1970s (when the US transferred Okinawa back to the Tokyo authorities). For many of the older generation, it was their first political activism, which is probably one of the reasons feelings run so extraordinarily high about it. It is a rare issue that unites pro-Beijing and pan-democrat activists, just as it puts Mainland China and Taiwan on the same side. You might see ‘Long Hair’ Leung Kwok-hung on the pier next to some seedy businessman from the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment Etc of HK, with Communist and Nationalist flags both on display. By tradition, either someone drowns or the boat falls apart, or at least turns back for lack of insurance cover. Usually, the Hong Kong government keeps its head down; the official policy has been to prevent the activists from sailing if their vessel was unseaworthy. Colonial-era Chief Secretary Anson Chan referred to the rocky outcrops by their Japanese name and clearly found the expeditions a bit low-class. But our new Chief Executive CY Leung has been more positive and voiced concern for the brave ‘all at sea’ patriots, who find themselves in the unusual position of having something nice to say about him.

http://biglychee.com/blog/2012/08/17...he-impossible/

Japan looks set to deport foreign activists who landed illegally in the Senkaku islands, or release citizens who have been illegally detained in Diaoyutai – according to taste. Although we have seen Diaoyu protests and expeditions before, the uniformity of opinion among virtually all conceivable Greater Chinese parties is unprecedented. Beijing, Taipei, the Hong Kong government, Mainland netizens, their Hong Kong counterparts, the Big Lychee’s pro-Beijing working-class Federation of Trade Unions and (snapped as I passed Exchange Square yesterday) the anti-Beijing middle-class Civic Party are all toeing the same line. How often does that happen? If any one element is slightly deviating from the consensus, it is Taiwan officials, who are differentiating their phraseology a bit. This is mainly for branding purposes, to emphasize that they are not part of the PRC. But it may also reflect something people there don’t talk about too much: many Taiwanese thought Japanese occupation from the 1890s to 1945 was OK – good infrastructure, decent schools and all that. Japan is the reason why the Senkakus/Diaoyu is unique in uniting Chinese who would normally hate each other. In Hong Kong people as far apart as pro-democrat Audrey Eu, Chief Executive CY Leung, patriot Lew Mon-hung and former Legislative Council president Rita Fan have all reportedly donated to the Diaoyu activists, who include such radical anti-government firebrands as boisterous League of Social Democrats activist Tsang Kin-shing (aka the Bull). After years in which United Front work in the Big Lychee has left much of the community estranged from if not hostile to all things Mainland, this must please Beijing, which ordered/allowed the Hong Kong government to openly support what is largely a Hong Kong-organized expedition. But will it be possible to build on this and unite the community behind other patriotic causes? Chinese sovereignty over the South China Sea? Chinese sovereignty over Tibet? The injustice of American complaints about China’s exchange rate? The need – for the sake of harmony – to persecute blind lawyers and other busybodies protecting the little guy against corrupt officials? The glory of the Communist Party and the need for one-party rule? The coolness of weeping astronauts? The importance of National Education in local schools (opponents of which I snapped yesterday in Wanchai)? It sounds unlikely. It is Japan that brings everyone together. The Chinese government’s hurt ‘innocent victim’ act can be tiresome, but Japan’s is nauseating. Unlike the Germans in Europe, who have never stopped beating themselves up over World War II, the Japanese still don’t quite see what the fuss was about. We needed resources from Southeast Asia; we displaced alien Western colonial regimes there and provided Asian rule; our soldiers used a few prostitutes here and there; then the evil Americans slaughtered hundreds of thousands of our civilians with atom bombs, and we’ve been feeling sorry for ourselves at candle-lit peace shrines ever since. It’s a wanton obliviousness to history that makes other Asians’ – and non-Asians’ – blood boil. An old neighbour of mine talked about having to bow to Japanese soldiers in the street when she went to school in the Mid-Levels, otherwise they would chop your head off. It happened. My own father, whose contact with the Chrysanthemum Throne’s forces was brief and as a victor, bought bad-quality cars, cameras and electronics throughout his life rather than touch any Japanese product. Shanghai’s World Financial Centre had to be re-designed because the hole in the top reminded people of the rising sun flag. Don’t forgive; don’t forget. It’s the one thing everyone can agree on.

A 2010 poll from HKU indicating people dislike the Japanese government over the islands (but they still like Japanese people):
http://hkupop.hku.hk/english/release/release796.html

At the other front, affected by the Diaoyu Islands incident, Hong Kong people's negative feeling towards the Japanese government has also surged, giving a net feeling of negative 43 percentage points. People's feeling towards the people of Japan, however, has remained positive, at a net value of positive 20 percentage points.