Letters
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Originally Posted by CyReN: View Post
this is a joke btw
Too late, there's 3 waypoint threads already up.
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Does no one here have a Game Informer account? My subscription ran out like 2 months ago or something.
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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
Does no one here have a Game Informer account? My subscription ran out like 2 months ago or something.
I get the print magazine. I can check if it's here when I get home in an hour or so
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I'll be home in 45 or so, I'll download the GI issue if it's up.
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Originally Posted by CyReN: View Post
GameInformer Article

"The greatest thing about the new Promethean Karthog is once you get in your Spartan IV body is fully locked in, meaning you stay in the Karthog until you die or the Karthog runs out of Promethean fossil fuel"

this is a joke btw
Yet you wonder why THC gets DDoS'd. ;)
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Originally Posted by Roddslayer: View Post
I'm downloading the digital copy of this month's GI right now. According to one it's editors there's a blow out on the Promethean tech and enemies.
You want to give us a summary of the article? Don't post screencaps.
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Originally Posted by Letters: View Post
Too late, there's 3 waypoint threads already up.
Considering Waypoint's history, I'm not sure if this is a joke...
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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
Does no one here have a Game Informer account? My subscription ran out like 2 months ago or something.
I'm downloading it right now.
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Originally Posted by Garrett 2U: View Post
I'm downloading it right now.
You've done your country proud.
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I'm getting the iPad version right now too.

Considering dropping the print, iPad version is hot. I like the print too though.

Edit: Done. Checking out now. Nm, now it has to process. Almost there.
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higherARC05
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I have printed version :( so I don't get new mag till around the 15th
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Originally Posted by higherARC05: View Post
I have printed version :( so I don't get new mag till around the 15th
If you have a printed subscription, do you not get the digital too?
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Originally Posted by The P of Poland: View Post
Considering Waypoint's history, I'm not sure if this is a joke...
You don't say...

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Originally Posted by Hypertrooper: View Post
If you have a printed subscription, do you not get the digital too?
they make you pick one or the other :(
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Originally Posted by CyReN: View Post
GameInformer Article

"The greatest thing about the new Promethean Karthog is once you get in your Spartan IV body is fully locked in, meaning you stay in the Karthog until you die or the Karthog runs out of Promethean fossil fuel"

this is a joke btw
It wouldn't have surprised me.

But damn you.
senador
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It's got Promethean enemy class info and pics, same for weapons.
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Originally Posted by senador: View Post
It's got Promethean enemy class info and pics, same for weapons.
Anything new besides the Watcher, Crawler and Knight?
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Originally Posted by senador: View Post
It's got Promethean enemy class info and pics, same for weapons.
new enemy types?
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http://i.imgur.com/f6yVF.jpg
senador
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Originally Posted by IHaveIce: View Post
new enemy types?
Not exactly. Pics and short descriptions of the different classes of Promethean Knights and Crawlers. Looks like Watchers only have 1 class according to this.

How much can I post? Trying to paraphrase it but don't want to risk it or hurt GI.
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Wait if I have power up rewards I get the digital magazine? How the fuck do I redeem it?
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This is why exclusive info is bad.
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Originally Posted by senador: View Post
No exactly. Pics and short descriptions of the different classes of Promethean Knights and Crawlers. Looks like Watchers only have 1 class according to this.

How much can I post? Trying to paraphrase it but don't want to risk it or hurt GI.
Just answer: Any new information? Or just more detail explanation?

I am sounding rude. I am sorry. SensyGAF Hyper mode activated
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Originally Posted by Hypertrooper: View Post
Just answer: Any new information? Or just more detail explanation?
New pics of enemies and classes with descriptions. Its not new in that we knew about it, but the classes with pics and descriptions have yet to be seen so that part is new.
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Originally Posted by senador: View Post
New pics of enemies and classes with descriptions. Its not new in that we knew about it, but the classes with pics and descriptions have yet to be seen so that part is new.
Does it explain some of the fiction behind these things, or does it just describe them in generic gameplay terms?
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Originally Posted by senador: View Post
New pics of enemies and classes with descriptions. Its not new in that we knew about it, but the classes with pics and descriptions have yet to be seen so that part is new.
didn't they say weapon information too?
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Here's some quick info on class names and basic info. Will remove on request if too much, but I think its fine.
  • Knight
    • Uses Supressor and LightRifle
  • Knight Lancer
    • Scouts and marksmen. Uses Promethean Vision.
  • Knight Commander
    • Leads groups, uses Autosentry turret and Incineration Cannon, has better armor and combat skills.
  • Knight Battlewagon
    • These ones look the most intimidating. They are rare. Uses Scattershot.
  • Crawler
    • Uses Boltshot.
  • Crawler Snipe
    • Has same description as Crawler. I imagine they hang back and use a different weapon, must have been a mistake on the description.
  • Alpha Crawler
    • Uses Supressor. Has spikes on back and head. Leader of packs.

Originally Posted by Flipyap: View Post
Does it explain some of the fiction behind these things, or does it just describe them in generic gameplay terms?
There is a 2 page article on some of the stuff that I have only skimmed. The enemy and weapon info is just brief.

Originally Posted by thezerofire: View Post
didn't they say weapon information too?
Yeah, its in there too. Just short descriptions and a side view image.
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The Knights are one of three subdivisions within the Prometheans.
Crawlers are basically cannon fodder to distract from the Knights.
Watchers are support units. They can shield knights, spawn watchers, resurrect knights.
Prometheans work together strategically.
Frankie's example of a Knight sniping him, he takes cover behind a column, Crawlers attack him by crawling down from the column.
Promethean weapons/equipment designed to fight Flood.

There are different variants of Knights, watchers, and crawlers.

Knight - Deadly warriors, use weapons like Light Rifle and Supressor.
Knight Lancer - Scouts and Marksmen, use Promethean Vision to locate hidden enemies
Knight Commander - Have skills of Knights, but can wield Incineration Cannons, stronger armor, Autosentry turrets
Knight Battlewagon - Rare but incredibly dangerous, huge frames draped in heavy armor and hardlight shielding, can deploy Autosentries, will wield Scattershot if you get too close. (Orange patterns through body and on face, orange spikes on back. Super badass!)
Watcher - Wield boltshots, summon crawlers, protect and resurrect Knights.
Crawler - Agile and move in packs, fire Boltshot from distance
Crawler Snipe - upgraded crawlers, no further details. I assume they keep larger ranges.
Alpha Crawler - Lead packs of Crawlers, has a Supressor

This is just details about the Prometheans, might be considered spoilers to some people.

Prometheans work for the Forerunner civilization, "or whatever is left of it."
Why do they now appear as robotic entities? Were they always this way?
Prometheans are directed by a "general of sorts".
First you encounter the Covenant. Then the Prometheans. But it is when they combine forces, and how they combine, that will offer biggest surprises.

Also, the variants of the Prometheans weren't the blue ones, perhaps those are a different faction?
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Different colored Pro. Knights & Crawlers?
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Originally Posted by NobleGundam: View Post
Different colored Pro. Knights & Crawlers?
Similarly colored, but have different features on them like spikes, armor shape, etc. All are still gray and orange.
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I will be sad if the Prometheans shown thus far are the only new enemies.
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Originally Posted by Garrett 2U: View Post
First you encounter the Covenant. Then the Prometheans. But it is when they combine forces, and how they combine, that will offer biggest surprises.
Indoctrination.

:(
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Originally Posted by CyReN: View Post
The sudd bit made the video lol
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Originally Posted by senador: View Post
Similarly colored, but have different features on them like spikes, armor shape, etc. All are still gray and orange.
Thank you for sharing :]
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Originally Posted by Garrett 2U: View Post
The Knights are one of three subdivisions within the Prometheans.
Crawlers are basically cannon fodder to distract from the Knights.
Watchers are support units. They can shield knights, spawn watchers, resurrect knights.
Prometheans work together strategically.
Frankie's example of a Knight sniping him, he takes cover behind a column, Crawlers attack him by crawling down from the column.
Promethean weapons/equipment designed to fight Flood.

There are different variants of Knights, watchers, and crawlers.

Knight - Deadly warriors, use weapons like Light Rifle and Supressor.
Knight Lancer - Scouts and Marksmen, use Promethean Vision to locate hidden enemies
Knight Commander - Have skills of Knights, but can wield Incineration Cannons, stronger armor, Autosentry turrets
Knight Battlewagon - Rare but incredibly dangerous, huge frames draped in heavy armor and hardlight shielding, can deploy Autosentries, will wield Scattershot if you get too close. (Orange patterns through body and on face, orange spikes on back. Super badass!)
Watcher - Wield boltshots, summon crawlers, protect and resurrect Knights.
Crawler - Agile and move in packs, fire Boltshot from distance
Crawler Snipe - upgraded crawlers, no further details. I assume they keep larger ranges.
Alpha Crawler - Lead packs of Crawlers, has a Supressor

This is just details about the Prometheans, might be considered spoilers to some people.

Prometheans work for the Forerunner civilization, "or whatever is left of it."
Why do they now appear as robotic entities? Were they always this way?
Prometheans are directed by a "general of sorts".
First you encounter the Covenant. Then the Prometheans. But it is when they combine forces, and how they combine, that will offer biggest surprises.

Also, the variants of the Prometheans weren't the blue ones, perhaps those are a different faction?
this sound a little bit disappointing, I expected more :/
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So just the three types, but different variants of them?

A little disappointing.... was hoping for more species of new enemies.

The Covenant was comprised of Grunts, Jackals, Elites, Brutes, Hunters, Engineers, Drones, and Prophets.

Prometheans is just Crawlers, Knights and Watchers? I can see that getting old fast.
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Originally Posted by u4iX: View Post
MLG:
DMR
Plasma Pistol
Frag Grenades
Promethean Vision
Shielding
Dexterity
Fixed.

Literally impossible to have a better loadout.
BTB will be plasma nades and Regen field (long range pinging).
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Originally Posted by Garrett 2U: View Post
This is just details about the Prometheans, might be considered spoilers to some people.

Why do they now appear as robotic entities? Were they always this way?
A-HA! Can you quote (or closer paraphrase) the line that mentions this? Unless it's presented in the form of questions like that.

Prom Knight Battlewagon sounds profoundly ridiculous. I love it.
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Just wait for the Promethean Elite/Grunts/Jackals
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Everyone get on the Battlewagon.
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Originally Posted by Vire: View Post
So just the three types, but different variants of them?

A little disappointing.... was hoping for more species of new enemies.

The Covenant was comprised of Grunts, Jackals, Elites, Brutes, Hunters, Engineers, Drones, and Prophets.

Prometheans is just Crawlers, Knights and Watchers? I can see that getting old fast.
There were only four enemy types of the Covenant in Halo: CE...
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Originally Posted by Hypertrooper: View Post
There were only four enemy types of the Covenant in Halo: CE...
So do you think they'll expand on it in future games?

Still seems like 4 would have been the sweetspot.
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Originally Posted by Flipyap: View Post
A-HA! Can you quote (or closer paraphrase) the line that mentions this? Unless it's presented in the form of questions like that.

Prom Knight Battlewagon sounds profoundly ridiculous. I love it.
Not much is said about that in particular. Frank has a quote and says it'd be a mistake to think of them as simple robots, but they are directed and have a "general, of sorts." Hmm, interesting.

Edit: A Knight Battlewagon was seen in the E3 announcement.
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Originally Posted by CyReN: View Post
Excellent stuff.

I want a Halo wedding.
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Originally Posted by Flipyap: View Post
A-HA! Can you quote (or closer paraphrase) the line that mentions this? Unless it's presented in the form of questions like that.

Prom Knight Battlewagon sounds profoundly ridiculous. I love it.
That is how it was phrased in the article.
Frankie's direct quote is "It's a mistake to think of them as simple robots, but they are directed - they have a general, of sorts."
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Originally Posted by Talents: View Post
The sudd bit made the video lol
Sudd page boys save/make it.
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Originally Posted by CyReN: View Post
GameInformer Article

"The greatest thing about the new Promethean Karthog is once you get in your Spartan IV body is fully locked in, meaning you stay in the Karthog until you die or the Karthog runs out of Promethean fossil fuel"

this is a joke btw
not fucking cool
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Frank talks about how the Prometheans are different to fight than what we are used to. He describes a battle where a couple Knights were sniping at him so he took cover thinking he was safe but then Crawlers crawled up over the thing he was hiding from and continued attacking him. The encounters get complex and varied. Knights can spawn a Watcher off their backs. Watchers can then deploy a Hardlight Shield for the Knight, revive dead Knights, and call in Crawlers. Frank makes it sound like he doesn't think there will be a go-to strategy for beating the game on Legendary.

Between these guys and the Covenant, should make for some fun encounters.
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So this is the Battlewagon?