[GrumpyAlien]

Super Mario World sucks, I'm sorry guys

I could imagine someone thinking it was a lesser Mario game or something....but sucks? Out of curiosity which ones do you like?

[Dinosaur]

New Super Mario World has gone gold right now! The game is being pressed at the factory, along with new copies of Metroid Prime Trilogy, Zack And Wiki, Pikmin, Klonoa, Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn and many others discontinued Wii games.

For the life of me I will never understand why they don't press more more copies of MPT without the tin casing and collector's extras. There is clearly a demand for the compilation. Just give us a plain old white case, as long as we get the disc!

[Haunted]

SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

[Tunavi]

speaking of SMW, we should some good "3D classics" games on the 3D3, wtf nintendo

[nhlducks35]

speaking of SMW, we should some good "3D classics" games on the 3D3, wtf nintendo

Yeah, where the hell is my Link to the Past?

[Dinosaur]

Super Mario World sucks, I'm sorry guys

Yes, the 2nd best game in objectively the greatest videogame series of all time sucks.

[The Mana Legend]

NSMBU looks so fucking good.

But I really, REALLY hope they don't fuck up the music as hard as the other NSMB games.

[The Mana Legend]

For the life of me I will never understand why they don't press more more copies of MPT without the tin casing and collector's extras. There is clearly a demand for the compilation. Just give us a plain old white case, as long as we get the disc!

Waiting for Wii U HD Edition I hope! That's what I'm holding out for, anyways.

[UncleSporky]

Actually Sporky (or anyone else who feels the same about SMW) I'd be genuinely curious to hear your thoughts on why. I've been hearing people say that a lot lately but I dunno if I've ever actually seen reasons, I really wanna know now

I actually don't have a very strong opinion about it and I've probably even said otherwise in the past on GAF.

I had a Genesis during that era and didn't get to play SMW until much later, and I just didn't feel the magic. I don't have the nostalgia for it that others do. I didn't put the time in to learn the cape well, and the tail in 3 had been so much easier to get used to. The goombas are uglier than the previous ones. I still really dislike ghost houses when they seem designed to waste your time until you can find the hidden exit, and in my opinion its houses are worse than those in more recent games (as you'd expect them to be, being the first occurrence of them). Some levels felt like an inferior rom hack, and the final reward of the change to the autumn enemies weirded me out and felt phoned-in.

But these are old opinions and I might even like it more if I played it again. But I'm not going to.

Honestly I should've merely said that 3 is better than World, and I can't really compare World to anything else because it's just a weird Mario game that sits in its own separate area for me.

This is similar to how I played Wind Waker before OoT. I tried to play Ocarina like 4 times and could never get more than 2 dungeons into it before I had to stop. Again, I had no nostalgia for it and had a hard time stomaching the low FPS and poor-by-comparison mechanics. 3DS version finally was bearable enough that I got through it.

[linkman26]

But it's good that they haven't made NSMW because SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

[IdreamofHIME]

Where NSMB and NSMBW felt like upgrades of Super Mario Bros 1, I honestly feel in the few hours I've spent with NSMB2 that it feels more like an extension of the Super Mario Bros 3 feel.
It's all very similar to the other 2 "new" games, but there's definitely been some progress and ideas that have been allowed to grow a bit. Maybe not quite as radical as SMB3, but definitely not as safe as SMB1.

[UncleSporky]

speaking of SMW, we should some good "3D classics" games on the 3D3, wtf nintendo

Yeah, where the hell is my Link to the Past?

I covered this a long time ago! It's not like a virtual console game or other such quick cash-in, they have to remake the entire game from scratch.

[Murrah]

I actually don't have a very strong opinion about it and I've probably even said otherwise in the past on GAF. I had a Genesis during that era and didn't get to play SMW until much later, and I just didn't feel the magic. I don't have the nostalgia for it that others do. I didn't put the time in to learn the cape well, and the tail in 3 had been so much easier to get used to. The goombas are uglier than the previous ones. I still really dislike ghost houses when they seem designed to waste your time until you can find the hidden exit, and in my opinion its houses are worse than those in more recent games (as you'd expect them to be, being the first occurrence of them). Some levels felt like an inferior rom hack, and the final reward of the change to the autumn enemies weirded me out and felt phoned-in. But these are old opinions and I might even like it more if I played it again. But I'm not going to. Honestly I should've merely said that 3 is better than World, and I can't really compare World to anything else because it's just a weird Mario game that sits in its own separate area for me. This is similar to how I played Wind Waker before OoT. I tried to play Ocarina like 4 times and could never get more than 2 dungeons into it before I had to stop. Again, I had no nostalgia for it and had a hard time stomaching the low FPS and poor-by-comparison mechanics. 3DS version finally was bearable enough that I got through it.

Huh, thanks for the in-depth answer. As much as I love World I agree with most of that, especially the ghost houses; their pointless flow ruining is what pushes me to prefer 3 over World in the end even if I think World's mechanics are more fun to mess with. I think ghost houses are the worst parts of NSMB and NSMBW too

Also aren't World's goombas classified as their own sub-species? Nintendo knew how much everyone would hate them beforehand so they had to cover their tracks

[hwy_61]

SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

[DonMigs85]

Why does everything in Mario have eyes again?

[Hot Coldman]

Why does everything in Mario have eyes again?

coz

[clemenx]

What we really need is Doki Doki Panic 2.

[Hiltz]

Shouldn't the question be where is Super Mario World 3: Yoshi's Island ? Nintendo, don't you dare dip this game in the art style of New SMB. I swear to God, the fans will give you a paper cut on every one of your fat fingers.

[GlamFM]

Shouldn't the question be where is Super Mario World 3: Yoshi's Island ? Nintendo, don't you care dip this game in the art style of New SMB. I swear to god, the fans will paper cut every one of your fat fingers.

Was never a big fan of Yoshi´s Island and never really got why they called it SMW2.
Probably because they realized the game was not that hot and wanted to secure some sales.

[disappeared]

I really wonder if we're going to be able to ever just save the Princess again. No co-op bullshit, no coin rushing, no filler. Just well-constructed levels, a world-map, and Yoshi. Sure, Galaxy 2 had all this, but somehow I still felt like a 2D game would solve any gripes I have with the series.

[Hot Coldman]

Yoshi's Island is a masterpiece you heathen

[Currygan]

Why does everything in Mario have eyes again?

well, how could they see

[lunarworks]

Why does everything in Mario have eyes again?

A cruel, spiteful god.

[Murrah]

Somewhere in the middle of Super Princess Peach and Kirby's Epic Yarn lies the real sequel to Yoshi's Island. Someone just has to make it

[MYE]

Why does everything in Mario have eyes again?

They are keeping Mario from jerkin' it. Blue balls forever, thats why he keeps running for Peach.

[ViewtifulJC]

Yoshi's Island takes a large shit on SMW's ugly, dull face

[synt4x]

Maybe next gen. That is, the gen after the one coming up.

[GlamFM]

Yoshi's Island takes a large shit on SMW's ugly, dull face

Maybe this thread just isn´t for you.

[Muku]

I'd have to agree that NSMBU is pretty similar. It's actually what made me happy at E3 while playing it. But, I'm not sure how far it'll go to pull those aspects from it in SMW and SMW2 were awesome. They aren't number one on my Mario list, but they're tied for second respectively.

I wish they'd drop the title though. NSMB is long, and yeah can make it shorter by using it as an acronym, but it's to the point it's getting confusing. Sure, NSMBU is only what, 4th in the series? But it's not even in a format that stays consistent, so it's confusing. Numbered series on the DS/3DS and on Wii uses Wii in title. I guess as not to add to confusion the Wii U just has the U tacked on. Spoke with a friend yesterday who called it everything under the sun but I think what it's actual name was. He wasn't doing it to be funny either, but I just think their way of naming each game has been pretty poor. I wish they'd dump the name and just come up with something else.

[TwEE-N-Toast]

The next 2d mario should have him jumping dimension to dimension chasing Bowser. Each dimension would have its own Nintendo theme, punchout, ice climbers, earth bound, metroid ect.. The end bosses would be characters from those games and you could unlock a new themed power up after beating them witch will appear in the regular question blocks going forward.

[Oblivion]

Maybe gaming just isn´t for you.

Fixed.

[metalslimer]

I've had the idea for Mario Dimensions type game since Wii U was announced. What if the next Mario combined 3D and 2d Mario literally? Some kind of crazy shit happens which forces Mario to be split into his 2d and 3D versions. While the 3D version plays out on the tv you can switch to the 2d version on the gamepad controller screen. Both forms help each other progress in the same kind of level. Does this sound interesting to anyone else?

[scoot3r]

I've had the idea for Mario Dimensions type game since Wii U was announced. What if the next Mario combined 3D and 2d Mario literally? Some kind of crazy shit happens which forces Mario to be split into his 2d and 3D versions. While the 3D version plays out on the tv you can switch to the 2d version on the gamepad controller screen. Both forms help each other progress in the same kind of level. Does this sound interesting to anyone else?

Paper Mario?

[OverHeat]

Every Mario game incorporates parts of every other Mario game. I think the Koopaling boss fights return too. But it's good that they haven't made NSMW because SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

Worst post ever.

[Bgamer90]

But it's good that they haven't made NSMW because SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

Super Mario World sucks, I'm sorry guys

What...the...heck.

[AdventureRacing]

This would be awesom but i'd just be happy for a new 2D mario that isn't NSMB. I think 4 games is enough to cover that series so hopefully they move onto something new (they have a handheld and a console surely one or the other could get something different).

[DonMigs85]

Mario World was awesome and second only to SMB3 in terms of platforming goodness and challenge IMO. Especially the damn Star Road.

[StreetsAhead]

Wrong thread...

[Combichristoffersen]

Every Mario game incorporates parts of every other Mario game. I think the Koopaling boss fights return too. But it's good that they haven't made NSMW because SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

Even though I think SMW is a dull rehash of SMB3.. no. Just no. Super Mario Land is way, way worse than SMW.

[The Mana Legend]

I've had the idea for Mario Dimensions type game since Wii U was announced. What if the next Mario combined 3D and 2d Mario literally? Some kind of crazy shit happens which forces Mario to be split into his 2d and 3D versions. While the 3D version plays out on the tv you can switch to the 2d version on the gamepad controller screen. Both forms help each other progress in the same kind of level. Does this sound interesting to anyone else?

This sounds awful.

[24FrameDaVinci]

But it's good that they haven't made NSMW because SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

[KillGore]

But it's good that they haven't made NSMW because SMW is the worst 2D Mario.

[greycolumbus]

I've had the idea for Mario Dimensions type game since Wii U was announced. What if the next Mario combined 3D and 2d Mario literally? Some kind of crazy shit happens which forces Mario to be split into his 2d and 3D versions. While the 3D version plays out on the tv you can switch to the 2d version on the gamepad controller screen. Both forms help each other progress in the same kind of level. Does this sound interesting to anyone else?

Mario Generations

[Starsunder]

I hated it when a series suddenly falls in the sour side of the internet and fantastic entries like NSMBWii are dragged into the ground with everything else. NSMBWii holds itself pretty damn well next to World.

In terms of level design it smashes World. And I fucking love World to bits.


Edit: Hey!, Junior no more! :D

[Banana Kid]

Bring back Super Mario Bros. 2 first, then we'll talk about World.

[b3b0p]

Yoshi's Island, Super Mario Bros. 2, Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Land 3 are the Mario games I feel are more experiments, spin-offs, side chances, and reminiscing /after thoughts of Miyamoto. Kind of like a Final Fantasy X-2 or Metal Gear Rising.

Everything from the physics to the idea/story/plot that goes on feels and/or is not what I would expect from a Mario game.

I'm still bitter about Super Mario Bros. 2. It feels like it was a mistake.

[Starsunder]

Bring back Super Mario Bros. 2 first, then we'll talk about World.

You and I, let's be friends.

[hwy_61]

Bring back Super Mario Bros. 2 first, then we'll talk about World.

Hell yes, this guy knows what he's talkin bout.

[Green Slime]

Bring back Super Mario Bros. 2 first, then we'll talk about World.

Absolutely. I'd love to see that concept see some evolution today. Of course, Donkey Kong '94 and Mario vs. Donkey Kong used a lot of gameplay elements from it, so there was that, but I want to see a real follow-up to it.

[BassForever]

Outside of a connected world and being able to bring Yoshi into any stages what is really that different between SMW and NSMBW? If you want a Mario with a connected world make it more like Super Mario Land 2 where you can tackle the levels in an order of your choosing but you still have to go to every world to find some magic item before you can go to the final world. Super Mario World allows you to only play like 8 stages to beat the whole game if you know all the short cuts which is basically the same as using warp cannons to jump to world 8 in NSMB.