AgentOtaku
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Originally Posted by The Grim Heaper: View Post
Everyone buy this.
THIS

I did...

TWICE!
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Originally Posted by Jawmuncher: View Post
I'm going to be a cheapass and say im going to wait for this to get cheaper.
Same.
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Originally Posted by Jawmuncher: View Post
If were going for wishful than we can say

-For no Mega Man Legends
-No Dino Crisis, Onimusha, Breath of Fire, basically nothing done with old franchises.

I agree it's good to bring in new IPs and keep things fresh.
But at the same time when you have a back catalog such as capcoms, going forward and making it seem like nothing you made in the past even exists is an odd move.
Wat.
And people keep complaining about Nintendo putting out too many sequels and should instead work on new IPs.
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The biggest surprise of the whole gen! <3

I order you to buy it, yes.....YOU.....NOW!
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witchedwiz
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(08-19-2012, 10:22 AM)
#55

tempting but no..
I'll buy it @ real bomba price (20-25) :)
KO Traveling Hobo
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#56

buy it mothafuckas

THE WIND IS PUSHING YOUUUUUU
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Originally Posted by Xane: View Post
Wat.
And people keep complaining about Nintendo putting out too many sequels and should instead work on new IPs.
I'm not saying they should go full force and bring only those out.
But there's more than enough room for them to be working on both.

Lets be honest, I think more people here would take a new Onimusha game over Lost Planet 3
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Originally Posted by Anteater: View Post
It's a great game, but don't expect it to be skyrim with the difficulty of souls series. They kind of dropped the ball on balancing and difficulty (the level cap is too high so you will eventually be overleveled).

They really nailed it with the combat, but the bad quest structure were more distracting than its worth, classes have quite a few unique abilities and ideas, especially the hybrid classes, it's a lot of fun but I really wish they'd patch in a hard mode.

If you want to get it cheaper, wait longer, but it's definitely a game worth playing this gen.
If this is the case, it seems like all the more reason to wait for a PC version, since the PC version could potentially see these things happen via modding.
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#59

If this was $40 at launch or even a couple months ago I would have bit. Too much in my backlog now. Might pick it up at the inevitable $20-30 black friday sale.
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#60

Tell me Capcom, would you want my twenty PS3 dollars, or my fifty PC dollars?

I know it doesn't work that way :P
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Hmm, I'll wait till fall to see if I can get a better deal.
Apdiddy
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I'm leaning towards getting this, but does anyone know if Capcom is planning on releasing an edition with all the DLC collected/unlocked?
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Originally Posted by Apdiddy: View Post
I'm leaning towards getting this, but does anyone know if Capcom is planning on releasing an edition with all the DLC collected/unlocked?
I don't know, but there's no DLC worth getting anyway. The initial release has all the content you could ever ask from the game.
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Originally Posted by Jawmuncher: View Post
If were going for wishful than we can say

-For no Mega Man Legends
-No Dino Crisis, Onimusha, Breath of Fire, basically nothing done with old franchises.

I agree it's good to bring in new IPs and keep things fresh.
But at the same time when you have a back catalog such as capcoms, going forward and making it seem like nothing you made in the past even exists is an odd move.
Lol

Yes, let's encourage Capcom to rehash the same old shit instead of taking a chance with a new ambitious property. This reminds me of that 4Chan post where a poster mimicks Miyamoto complaining about Zelda fans.
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Originally Posted by El Sloth: View Post
Lol

Yes, let's encourage Capcom to rehash the same old shit instead of taking a chance with a new ambitious property. This reminds me of that 4Chan post where a poster mimicks Miyamoto complaining about Zelda fans.
I refer you to my earlier post.
I didn't mean that towrds DD directly.
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#66



Within 2 minutes of turning the game on, you will have gotten your $40 worth.

This really is a game worth supporting. Do you want to be playing Elder Scrolls VII, doing the exact same tired thing for the next 10 years? Or do you want to see a really serious challenger push the genre? Because that's what this is. Honestly, it already blows away Skyrim completely.

Buy it. They need the support, and they want to make a sequel. It's completely worth the money. I bought the game twice at $60 and gave one to a friend.

The combat is literally the best open world RPG combat ever. The pawn system is also just as innovative as the multi-player elements that Demon's Souls had. You'll quickly fall in love with playing a single player game, while renting pawns and having yours rented. If there was ever a time to set aside silly, stupid grudges about Mega Man, this is that time! This is the most expensive game Capcom has ever made, and it's so good. I want to see Japan compete in open world RPGs, and you all should want that too. They have a ton of unique skills and ideas to offer, but people have to buy the games!
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All of you, stop playing whatever you are playing and buy this game. Even if you are playing this game

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Japanese musicians always look so badass
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Originally Posted by Shinta: View Post


Within 2 minutes of turning the game on, you will have gotten your $40 worth.

This really is a game worth supporting. Do you want to be playing Elder Scrolls VII, doing the exact same tired thing for the next 10 years? Or do you want to see a really serious challenger push the genre? Because that's what this is. Honestly, it already blows away Skyrim completely.

Buy it. They need the support, and they want to make a sequel. It's completely worth the money. I bought the game twice at $60 and gave one to a friend.

The combat is literally the best open world RPG combat ever. The pawn system is also just as innovative as the multi-player elements that Demon's Souls had. You'll quickly fall in love with playing a single player game, while renting pawns and having yours rented. If there was ever a time to set aside silly, stupid grudges about Mega Man, this is that time! This is the most expensive game Capcom has ever made, and it's so good. I want to see Japan compete in open world RPGs, and you all should want that too. They have a ton of unique skills and ideas to offer, but people have to buy the games!
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#69

I'll wait for the bargain bin. I was initially waiting for some kind of PC port, but who knows how that'd turn out.
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Originally Posted by Shinta: View Post

This really is a game worth supporting. Do you want to be playing Elder Scrolls VII, doing the exact same tired thing for the next 10 years? Or do you want to see a really serious challenger push the genre? Because that's what this is. Honestly, it already blows away Skyrim completely.

Buy it. They need the support, and they want to make a sequel. It's completely worth the money. I bought the game twice at $60 and gave one to a friend.
I didn't buy Dragon's Dogma specifically because I felt it was half baked, unoptimized garbage. Comparing it to Skyrim, one of the best gaming experiences of this gen, is just silly.
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Originally Posted by Shinta: View Post


Within 2 minutes of turning the game on, you will have gotten your $40 worth.

This really is a game worth supporting. Do you want to be playing Elder Scrolls VII, doing the exact same tired thing for the next 10 years? Or do you want to see a really serious challenger push the genre? Because that's what this is. Honestly, it already blows away Skyrim completely.

Buy it. They need the support, and they want to make a sequel. It's completely worth the money. I bought the game twice at $60 and gave one to a friend.

The combat is literally the best open world RPG combat ever. The pawn system is also just as innovative as the multi-player elements that Demon's Souls had. You'll quickly fall in love with playing a single player game, while renting pawns and having yours rented. If there was ever a time to set aside silly, stupid grudges about Mega Man, this is that time! This is the most expensive game Capcom has ever made, and it's so good. I want to see Japan compete in open world RPGs, and you all should want that too. They have a ton of unique skills and ideas to offer, but people have to buy the games!
YES!

BUY THIS GAME YOU DUMBASSES! DON'T WAIT FOR THE PC VERSION. IT'S NOT COMING. JUST BUY IT, ENJOY IT.

TBH, It's not flawless - but it turns the genre on its head and completely beats the shit out of all comers where the most important facet is considered - in its combat system.

If the core of your game sucks balls... well, fuck your game. I'm looking at you Skyrim/Elder Scrolls.
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Originally Posted by Chao: View Post
Japanese musicians always look so badass
Pity the song wasn't badass :(

And imo, the game is more than worth that price. It's not perfect by any means, but it's great fun nonetheless.

As for a PC port, I'd guess it would go more or less like Dark Souls, maybe a tad better (like, you know, being able to select the resolution), but it most likely wouldn't get decent PC control, additional options, and the stuff that PC gamers are accustomed to. *


* Before someone murders me, I mostly play on PC, and I don't think you guys are entitled. So let's be friends :)
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Originally Posted by Cheech: View Post
I didn't buy Dragon's Dogma specifically because I felt it was half baked, unoptimized garbage. Comparing it to Skyrim, one of the best gaming experiences of this gen, is just silly.
No, it’s really not. Dragon’s Dogma slaughters Skyrim.
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Originally Posted by Cheech: View Post
I didn't buy Dragon's Dogma specifically because I felt it was half baked, unoptimized garbage. Comparing it to Skyrim, one of the best gaming experiences of this gen, is just silly.
Maybe you should try the game first. Mind you, I didn't just compare it to Skyrim, I said it flat out blows it away in multiple categories.

Watch, I'll blow away Skyrim in just 0:40 seconds.

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Originally Posted by Cheech: View Post
I didn't buy Dragon's Dogma specifically because I felt it was half baked, unoptimized garbage. Comparing it to Skyrim, one of the best gaming experiences of this gen, is just silly.
The silly thing is to compare both games as they play nothing alike. They're completly different games.

Dragons Dogma is the closest thing to a current gen Monster Hunter. Skyrim is simply the next Oblivion.



Also fighting BAMs in Dragons Dogma beats anything Skyrim can throw at you, yes even the dragons.
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#76

best game this year.
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Originally Posted by Cheech: View Post
I didn't buy Dragon's Dogma specifically because I felt it was half baked, unoptimized garbage. Comparing it to Skyrim, one of the best gaming experiences of this gen, is just silly.
You're gonna catch shit for this, but most people aren't going to tell you why you're ignorant. I will.

The reason Dragon's Dogma has some frame-rate issues and isn't the best graphically looking game this century, is because its focussing on its gameplay over a very pretty yet boring world you can't interact with in terms of action gameplay (look mum, i can stack a million melons in this house, compelling).

Whats sucking up all that console power in Dragon's Dogma is 9 classes of very animation intensive player character styles, with elaborate and fancy move-sets, all loaded into the memory at any one time, ready to be busted out. On top of this the lighting engine is far more influenced by dynamic lights at all times of day, and then to go even further beyond that, large boss characters can be clambered all the fuck over, even if they launch themselves into the sky briefly.

Comparably, you have the giant lush world of Skyrim, but all combat animations are bargain basement rudimentary hand waving swipes, enemies just have bog standard rag-doll reactions, and night-time is just as ambiently lit as day-time. Partner AI's in Skyrim are beyond laughable, and all spells and effects are also pretty low rent stuff. The less said about its boss battles with dragons and such forth, the better.

Welcome to the end of the generation, where developers are having to flip a coin and go with gameplay or graphics with the stuff theyre pushing. Try not to be the type of person thats only wowed by very pretty corridors: it makes for pretty boring fucking games.
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but I have so much rpg in my backlog already aaaaaaaahh
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Originally Posted by Pie and Beans: View Post
You're gonna catch shit for this, but most people aren't going to tell you why you're ignorant. I will.

The reason Dragon's Dogma has some frame-rate issues and isn't the best graphically looking game this century, is because its focussing on its gameplay over a very pretty yet boring world you can't interact with in terms of action gameplay (look mum, i can stack a million melons in this house, compelling).

Whats sucking up all that console power in Dragon's Dogma is 9 classes of very animation intensive player character styles, with elaborate and fancy move-sets, all loaded into the memory at any one time, ready to be busted out. On top of this the lighting engine is far more influenced by dynamic lights at all times of day, and then to go even further beyond that, large boss characters can be clambered all the fuck over, even if they launch themselves into the sky briefly.

Comparably, you have the giant lush world of Skyrim, but all combat animations are bargain basement rudimentary hand waving swipes, enemies just have bog standard rag-doll reactions, and night-time is just as ambiently lit as day-time. Partner AI's in Skyrim are beyond laughable, and all spells and effects are also pretty low rent stuff. The less said about its boss battles with dragons and such forth, the better.

Welcome to the end of the generation, where developers are having to flip a coin and go with gameplay or graphics with the stuff theyre pushing. Try not to be the type of person thats only wowed by very pretty corridors: it makes for pretty boring fucking games.
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Dragon's Dogma deserves better sales: plays extremely well, has tons of content, its not super-polished in all areas but its still pretty damn spectacular at times.

Best new IP Capcom have pushed out in a long, long, time.
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I played the demo to completion on both consoles, because I refused to believe that anyone would put a game out there that ran so terribly.

It's awful shit, and deserved to bomb even worse than it did. It's closer in quality to something like Two Worlds than Skyrim.
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Its interesting how much better Capcom games have gotten at holding on its MSRP. Must be a better shipping strategy going on lately.
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Originally Posted by Pie and Beans: View Post
You're gonna catch shit for this, but most people aren't going to tell you why you're ignorant. I will.

The reason Dragon's Dogma has some frame-rate issues and isn't the best graphically looking game this century, is because its focussing on its gameplay over a very pretty yet boring world you can't interact with in terms of action gameplay (look mum, i can stack a million melons in this house, compelling).

Whats sucking up all that console power in Dragon's Dogma is 9 classes of very animation intensive player character styles, with elaborate and fancy move-sets, all loaded into the memory at any one time, ready to be busted out. On top of this the lighting engine is far more influenced by dynamic lights at all times of day, and then to go even further beyond that, large boss characters can be clambered all the fuck over, even if they launch themselves into the sky briefly.

Comparably, you have the giant lush world of Skyrim, but all combat animations are bargain basement rudimentary hand waving swipes, enemies just have bog standard rag-doll reactions, and night-time is just as ambiently lit as day-time. Partner AI's in Skyrim are beyond laughable, and all spells and effects are also pretty low rent stuff. The less said about its boss battles with dragons and such forth, the better.

Welcome to the end of the generation, where developers are having to flip a coin and go with gameplay or graphics with the stuff theyre pushing. Try not to be the type of person thats only wowed by very pretty corridors: it makes for pretty boring fucking games.


Originally Posted by Cheech: View Post
I played the demo to completion on both consoles, because I refused to believe that anyone would put a game out there that ran so terribly.

It's awful shit, and deserved to bomb even worse than it did. It's closer in quality to something like Two Worlds than Skyrim.
Uh sure...
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Originally Posted by Cheech: View Post
I played the demo to completion on both consoles, because I refused to believe that anyone would put a game out there that ran so terribly.

It's awful shit, and deserved to bomb even worse than it did. It's closer in quality to something like Two Worlds than Skyrim.
It's funny cause Skyrim on PS3 plays as shitty as Dragons Dogma does, and it's half the fun.
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Originally Posted by Forever: View Post
14.99 and we'll talk.
$39.99 (CDN) and we'll talk :(
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People praising Dragon’s Dogma while shitting on Skyrim – all is well with the world. I wuv you guys!
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Originally Posted by Metalmurphy: View Post
It's funny cause Skyrim on PS3 plays as shitty as Dragons Dogma does, and it's half the fun.
Why would you play a game as magnificent as Skyrim on 6 year old hardware?
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Why would you play a game as magnificent as Skyrim on 6 year old hardware?
Its easier to fall asleep on my couch than it is at my desk.
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Originally Posted by gconsole: View Post
You sound like someone who still stuck in PS era.
Welcome to NeoGAF.


Also don't listen to Cheech. Never listen to Cheech.
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No pc version. They don't want my money.

If they can't throw together the effort, I don't want to reward them. Vote with the wallet!
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Just a regular day in Dragons Dogma :P

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Originally Posted by Cheech: View Post
I didn't buy Dragon's Dogma specifically because I felt it was half baked, unoptimized garbage. Comparing it to Skyrim, one of the best gaming experiences of this gen, is just silly.
Wow I must have played a different Skyrim than you. Not to say Dragon's Dogma is the greatest thing since sliced bread like many people in the topic; but the combat and platforming were actually fun, and the main quest line was actually not shit.

Skyrim on the other hand had shitty combat, a main quest line that I felt I was better off not doing, and the worst guild quests I've ever ran across in an open world RPG.

Edit: How could I forget. The magic system is leagues better than Skyrim's terrible system, and is actually encourages using more than one spell instead of being able to spam fireball at every single enemy.

Oh and it doesn't crash every hour so you really don't have to play in fear of losing your past hour or so of progress because you ran into an unplayable section of the game that crashes every fucking time you enter.
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Everyone buy this game immediately! My GOTY so far!
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If this game didn't have character level(which raises stats and health) and more port crystals before beating the game, it would be a 5/5 game I think.

However no fast-travel + becoming overpowered from fighting too much is a big drag on a game which is already vastly superior to skyrim.
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Originally Posted by RoboGeorgeForeman: View Post
the main quest line was actually not shit.
Eh, that's not really true.. the gameplay supporting it was more fun moment-to-moment compared to Skyrim, but in terms of pacing, variety, etc. it was imo just as bad. Dragon's Dogma's quests in general are pretty garbage, especially when they try to make you do something more complex than simply killing X monsters. The quest logic tends to be awful, the writing abysmal, and there's generally not much in the way of varied tasks.

Granted, Skyrim doesn't have great quest design either, so it's a "lesser evil" kind of situation.
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Look what you can do in Dragon's Dogma:



I rest my case.
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Quests like the traveling to Bluemoon Tower to fight the griffon are a big step up from any in Elder Scrools.
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Originally Posted by WorstUsernameEver: View Post
Eh, that's not really true.. the gameplay supporting it was more fun moment-to-moment compared to Skyrim, but in terms of pacing, variety, etc. it was imo just as bad. Dragon's Dogma's quests in general are pretty garbage, especially when they try to make you do something more complex than simply killing X monsters. The quest logic tends to be awful, the writing abysmal, and there's generally not much in the way of varied tasks.

Granted, Skyrim doesn't have great quest design either, so it's a "lesser evil" kind of situation.
I really enjoyed the main quest, but I agree with you on the side quests thing. The quests would have been more tolerable had the "kill X amount of enemies" quests been only about killing boss monsters and not rabbits/boars/crows/bats/ect., and had the escorts in the escort mission actually had decent A.I. like the Pawns.
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Originally Posted by WorstUsernameEver: View Post
Eh, that's not really true.. the gameplay supporting it was more fun moment-to-moment compared to Skyrim, but in terms of pacing, variety, etc. it was imo just as bad. Dragon's Dogma's quests in general are pretty garbage, especially when they try to make you do something more complex than simply killing X monsters. The quest logic tends to be awful, the writing abysmal, and there's generally not much in the way of varied tasks.

Granted, Skyrim doesn't have great quest design either, so it's a "lesser evil" kind of situation.
It's true, but I just remind myself that Skyrim is their 4th attempt at doing the same game (Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim) and that's all they got out of it. Dragon's Dogma is their 1st attempt at this genre even. They have so much room to improve, and that's why a sequel is so exciting to think about. That's why Capcom keeps calling it a major franchise in PR statements. Because if this thing can actually take off, it will totally trounce the competition.
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I really, really liked the demo. I've put this in my Gamefly queue.