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shinkansen.3000 · (08-19-2012, 05:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Razek:

Get your discs out now before it's too late! You do not want to have to take that drive apart.

So it is possible to remove the disc by dismantling the drive.

H_Prestige · (08-19-2012, 05:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

So are you guys telling me I can't play the GOTY (Sleeping Dogs) anymore because my system might eat it even if I move back to the open cabinet?

Do so at your own risk. Once the launch units die, there's no way to take the disc besides taking apart the system.

BlackJace · (08-19-2012, 05:42 PM)

*salute*

jetsetfluken · 05:46 PM

Even in 2010 I was pitying the oblivious folks who still wouldn't upgrade their launch PS3's to slims (not even getting rid of the launch one, just having it on the side in turn for a new main slim), but in 2012? You're just asking for it.

Originally Posted by shinkansen.3000:

Now that I think about it, I'm afraid that even if you back up to PS+ you still can't restore the locked saves on any other console.

Wait what? The locked saves are system locked?
Doesn't that defeat most of the purpose of backing them up? I've backed up in the past to future-proof the data, not to depend on the same console forever.

TGO · (08-19-2012, 05:43 PM)

My PS3 makes a random beeping noise sometimes (like its connecting to a 56k internet), but its the Harddrive I think, it's turned its self off thou

shinkansen.3000 · (08-19-2012, 05:44 PM)

Originally Posted by jetsetfluken:

Wait what? The locked saves are system locked?
Doesn't that defeat most of the purpose of backing them up? I've backed up in the past to future-proof the data, not to depend on the same console forever.

Regarding PS+ I stood corrected a few posts behind :p

Originally Posted by H_Prestige:

You can. I downloaded my dark souls and demons souls saves onto a new ps3.

I'll edit for clarity...

Sylver · (08-19-2012, 05:45 PM)

The CPU protector paste have been worn out.

Mejilan · (08-19-2012, 05:45 PM)

Originally Posted by shinkansen.3000:

So it is possible to remove the disc by dismantling the drive.

I hear it's really challenging on the original models. But if I can't find Dragon's Dogma for $20 by the time the new model PS3 hits, I'll definitely be dissecting my George Foreman Grill. So close to a platinum, too... :(

diamount · (08-19-2012, 05:45 PM)

Time to put it out's its misery.

Razek · (08-19-2012, 05:45 PM)

Originally Posted by shinkansen.3000:

So it is possible to remove the disc by dismantling the drive.

It was a pain but I got it out. I did it during a reflow and I Frankensteined my PS3 with a bunch of fans to keep the solder cool. She's still kickin'!

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

So are you guys telling me I can't play the GOTY (Sleeping Dogs) anymore because my system might eat it even if I move back to the open cabinet?

Yes! Don't be stubborn. I was too and I had to fish out my MW2 disc out of the drive (by taking the drive completely apart). Don't trust that they will send the disc back with a refurb.

Samurai_Heart · (08-19-2012, 05:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

So are you guys telling me I can't play the GOTY (Sleeping Dogs) anymore because my system might eat it even if I move back to the open cabinet?

Would probs be okayish if you had a cooling system =S. The problem of this generation's console is the use of non-leaded solder that makes the solder melt more easily... God I hope all new consoles have good cooling systems, hopefully the Wii U doesn't suffer the same problem.

Mik_Pad · (08-19-2012, 05:46 PM)

My PS3 fan gets loud even If its idle for a few minutes it all started the first time I played LA Noire since then it happens always :/

Nuklear · (08-19-2012, 05:46 PM)

Originally Posted by shinkansen.3000:

The new Ps3 models could cost as low as $140 for what we know, it definitely isn't worth it.

To retain PS2 backwards compatibility it is imho.

shinkansen.3000 · 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

So are you guys telling me I can't play the GOTY (Sleeping Dogs) anymore because my system might eat it even if I move back to the open cabinet?

I feel the same way, I wanted to play Sleeping Dogs, Tales of Graces and Darksiders 2 before Resi6 but I don't want to risk it...

Originally Posted by Mik_Pad:

My PS3 fan gets loud even If its idle for a few minutes it all started the first time I played LA Noire since then it happens always :/

Exactly the same thing happened with mine, only that after LA I played many more games without problems until now with Darksiders.

Originally Posted by Nuklear:

To retain PS2 backwards compatibility it is imho.

Yes that's true, I still have a working Ps2 so I don't think about it.

jetsetfluken · 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Razek:

Yes! Don't be stubborn. I was too and I had to fish out my MW2 disc out of the drive (by taking the drive completely apart). Don't trust that they will send the disc back with a refurb.

The refurb process is useless. They'll either send you the current destined-to-fail-again model or a different crappy one. Either way, your data is going to be completely lost.

One of the key things 360 had better hardware-wise was the ability to simply swap out your HDD and retain all data if the system died - with PS3, if the system dies, your HDD data is all lost too, since it makes you format when inserting into a different PS3.

Skip the $150 fee and get a new slim like you should have a few years ago.

Cloudy · (08-19-2012, 05:52 PM)

Well shit. I guess I need to upgrade. Seems like I also need to pay for PS+ since I don't have any external device with enough room to do the system backup. This is fucking bullshit

MushroomSamba · (08-19-2012, 05:54 PM)

Mine did this awhile ago. When I powered it on, it'd beep 3 times and the light would turn yellow, and it wouldn't start. I press the power button again, and it turns on just fine.

It did that for like a month, and then it froze while I was playing Arkham City. So I did a hard reset, and since then it's been running just like normal again. No beeps, no yellow light. Somehow, Batman saved my PS3?

shinkansen.3000 · (08-19-2012, 05:54 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

Well shit. I guess I need to upgrade. Seems like I also need to pay for PS+ since I don't have any external device with enough room to do the system backup. This is fucking bullshit

You can do the saves backup manually, it shouldn't take much space.
I had saves up to 2007 and it was something like 35MB in all.

Game saves only mind, anything else I can redownload anyway...

At least I hope I can, if Sony put down the GTHD link I'm going to be very angry...

jetsetfluken · (08-19-2012, 05:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

Well shit. I guess I need to upgrade. Seems like I also need to pay for PS+ since I don't have any external device with enough room to do the system backup. This is fucking bullshit

You don't really need to make a backup. Just do the Data Transfer Utility to the new PS3.
Warning, it could take a very long time depending on the size of your HDD, and your dying PS3 may not hold out. I've used the feature twice, one of the times I was migrating around 300 GB of data and it literally took around 3-4 days to transfer.

Cloudy · (08-19-2012, 05:55 PM)

Originally Posted by shinkansen.3000:

You can do the saves backup manually, it shouldn't take much space.
I had saves up to 2007 and it was something like 35MB in all.

Game saves only mind, anything else I can redownload anyway...

At least I hope I can, if Sony put down the GTHD link I'm going to be very angry...

I can't do that with the sleeping dogs data :(

Shining Sunshine · (08-19-2012, 05:55 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

Well shit. I guess I need to upgrade. Seems like I also need to pay for PS+ since I don't have any external device with enough room to do the system backup. This is fucking bullshit

Uh PS+ doesn't do system back ups.

Mejilan · (08-19-2012, 05:56 PM)

Another thing worth mentioning is that the OG PS3s are destined to fail due to the manufacturing flaw that leads to the YLOD. The Slim was the hardware solution to rectify that.

Paying $150 to get your Fatty replaced by Sony with another Fatty, just for PS2 backwards compatibility, is sacrificing the long-term for the short-term. Especially if the new model is going to be available for sub-$200!

PS2 emulation on PC is getting better and better by the month as PC tech finally starts hitting the power vs. price sweet spot.
I still have a hacked and HDD-installed PS2 for last-gen gaming.
But once I build my new PC, I'll be switching it all over to emulation.

jbueno · (08-19-2012, 05:56 PM)

Beepy... Cry...?

Cloudy · (08-19-2012, 05:56 PM)

Originally Posted by Shining Sunshine:

Uh PS+ doesn't do system back ups.

I know. I just need to save my 7+ hours of sleeping dogs data

shinkansen.3000 · (08-19-2012, 05:57 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

I can't do that with the sleeping dogs data :(

Even if you do a system backup you can't restore it anyways.

The only way to backup that save is either by PS+ or by a system transfer with a new console.
IMPORTANT: check around if it is still possible with system transfer, I wouldn't want that Sony took that feature away for whatever reason...

Radec · (08-19-2012, 05:58 PM)

It's remarkable that your launch PS3 lasted this long.

jetsetfluken · 06:02 PM

Luckily for you, I believe Sony recently added the feature to batch copy save data (select all at once instead of one by one). Really would have liked that feature in the past.

shinkansen.3000 · (08-19-2012, 06:00 PM)

Originally Posted by Radec:

It's remarkable that your launch PS3 lasted this long.

:°°°°(

Originally Posted by jetsetfluken:

Luckily for you, Sony recently added the feature to batch copy (select all at once instead of one by one). Really would have liked that feature in the past.

I did that one by one 2 hours ago :/ if only I knew...

Cloudy · (08-19-2012, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Radec:

It's remarkable that your launch PS3 lasted this long.

It's also my main blu-ray and netflix player. I guess it was a good run. How much can I sell it for on Ebay? It's still working lol

soulassssns · (08-19-2012, 06:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Shikoro:

YLOD...

this

Cloudy · (08-19-2012, 06:02 PM)

Originally Posted by jetsetfluken:

Luckily for you, I believe Sony recently added the feature to batch copy save data (select all at once instead of one by one).

I did that but it didn't take the sleeping dogs data. This is unbelievable that I have to pay to backup a game save...

Jeff_Chen · (08-19-2012, 06:02 PM)

Backup while you can.

Tear it apart and apply new thermal paste if you have the skill (check ifixit for the guides).

Radec · (08-19-2012, 06:03 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

It's also my main blu-ray and netflix player. I guess it was a good run. How much can I sell it for on Ebay? It's still working lol

Come on man, let it rest. Imagine if the buyer got to use it for like a week, then YLOD hits.

:/

JehutyRunner · (08-19-2012, 06:03 PM)

Back up your saves. Take out any discs you have in it. Give it last rites. Say your final goodbyes. Let it die.

Cloudy · (08-19-2012, 06:04 PM)

UPDATE: Actually it turns out the beeps were coming from my dads prehistoric cellphone which needs to be charged. Is freezing and magic reset still a sign of YLOD?

Clockwork · (08-19-2012, 06:04 PM)

Originally Posted by Radec:

It's remarkable that your launch PS3 lasted this long.

You know, I don't necessarily agree with this sentiment. Why shouldn't it still work? Any statements regarding the expected death of these launch consoles is grossly exaggerated anyway.

*hugs his launch PS3*

Clockwork · (08-19-2012, 06:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

UPDATE: Actually it turns out the beeps were coming from my dads prehistoric cellphone which needs to be charged. Is freezing and magic reset still a sign of YLOD?

I'd say it's a definite sight of overheating.

Others will say since it is a launch unit, even if it isn't a sign of YLOD it's going to happen anyway so you might as well needlessly run out to the nearest store and waste money buying a new one.

shinkansen.3000 · (08-19-2012, 06:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

UPDATE: Actually it turns out the beeps were coming from my dads prehistoric cellphone which needs to be charged. Is freezing and magic reset still a sign of YLOD?

Yes, even more than beeping... especially the crashes/freezing.

Cloudy · (08-19-2012, 06:08 PM)

Ugh I really want to play Sleeping Dogs but I don't have $250 for a new ps3 today. Aaaaargh

PAULINK · (08-19-2012, 06:11 PM)

Not trying to be rude but do people here dust out the fans on their BC ps3s at all? I tend to do it every few months. Replaced the thermal compound 2 years ago too, so i'm expecting this thing to be in it for the long run.

shinkansen.3000 · (08-19-2012, 06:14 PM)

Originally Posted by PAULINK:

Not trying to be rude but do people here dust out the fans on their BC ps3s at all? I tend to do it every few months. Replaced the thermal compound 2 years ago too, so i'm expecting this thing to be in it for the long run.

If you do this regularly the Ps3's life could be extended by a lot even if it's a botched unit.
Unfortunately I didn't and once you start experiencing crashes and freezing it means that the circuitry is compromised, so dusting wouldn't help much...

Shining Sunshine · (08-19-2012, 06:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

UPDATE: Actually it turns out the beeps were coming from my dads prehistoric cellphone which needs to be charged. Is freezing and magic reset still a sign of YLOD?

If you haven't gotten this on other games, it could be isolated with Sleeping Dogs.

3 beep is 100% caused by the game. Hardware freeze can be a game issue too.
Not to say the game is buggy, but an open world game is very difficult to iron out all crash issues.

maxcer0081 · 06:32 PM

seeing as this thread is about HW problems I have recently been getting 1-2 second freezes in all my games on the 360. I did a google search for similar problems but i haven't seen anything resembling my problem.

anyone else have this happen with their xbox?

EDIT: I did some more looking and it seems like it was my wireless mic that might be causing problems. I'm going to have to go and test this out because I was using it on friday. hopefully MS will fix this soon.

Unregistered007 · (08-19-2012, 06:18 PM)

so instead of thoroughly checking you rushed to GAF to bitch?

test_account · (08-19-2012, 06:20 PM)

Originally Posted by SJRB:

To strongarm you into taking PS+.

It is not a Sony published nor developed game though.

Haunted · 06:23 PM

It had a good run. Freezing and resetting are bad signs.

This generation hasn't had the greatest track record for me. My launch 360 (bought it used) had to be refurbished once, my '09 PS3 is starting to give me trouble (didn't want to start up for a while yesterday), the DSL had a broken hinge and L button, my old 2005 PC blew a video card, my 2010 PC an SSD... I think the only piece of gaming hardware that actually worked from start to finish this generation has been the Wii.

Originally Posted by Unregistered007:

so instead of thoroughly checking you rushed to GAF to bitch?

Telling GAF should always be the first instinct.

LiK · (08-19-2012, 06:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

UPDATE: Actually it turns out the beeps were coming from my dads prehistoric cellphone which needs to be charged. Is freezing and magic reset still a sign of YLOD?

haha, no issue then

Gustav · (08-19-2012, 06:23 PM)

Originally Posted by Cloudy:

I moved it to a different location yesterday and ever since then it's been beeping randomly every few minutes and it even turned itself off during a movie just now.

Am I screwed?

PS: It's a launch day ps3

UPDATE: Actually it turns out the beeps were coming from my dads prehistoric cellphone which needs to be charged. Is freezing and magic reset still a sign of YLOD?

For me it was.

DonMigs85 · (08-19-2012, 06:24 PM)

you can try booting into PS3's recovery menu and trying "restore filesystem" then "rebuild database". If it works it might fix corrupted files and wont erase your data.

Clockwork · (08-19-2012, 06:25 PM)

Originally Posted by shinkansen.3000:

Unfortunately I didn't and once you start experiencing crashes and freezing it means that the circuitry is compromised, so dusting wouldn't help much...

Originally Posted by Haunted:

It had a good run. Freezing and resetting are bad signs.

I'm not sure I agree with this.

He said it froze and crashed while it was in the cabinet. Is this still happening once he moved it and let it sit for a bit?

Just play the darn thing and see if you have any more issues. No reason to be paranoid at this point.