[phosphor112]

Why? I mean it's pretty clear at this point, no? If someone had a problem with that they'd be pretty vocal about it, right? Which is actually fun, because you know that's like the polar opposite of small government...

I'd just like to know, more flack for my political arsenal. So is this being presented at the RNC this year?

[Meier]

How can you not 'lean left' when this is the type of shit that is 'right'.

So true. I'm actually a registered Republican still but I just can't see any possible way that anyone who isn't SUPER right wing could vote for the party leadership at this point. It has utterly been co-opted by zealots.

[Sir Garbageman]

This just sounds absolutely bonkers to me. Is the GOP that far extreme? Holy shit. I heard someone say something to the effect of, "republican voters typically think the republican party is a lot more moderate than they actually are".

Maybe this will be the straw to break the proverbial camel's back.

[Omegasquash]

Wow. Ideological lines are getting drawn in the sand for what kind of country we're going to have, and it'll all be called democratic one way or another.

If ever there were a time for calm discourse between people, it's now.

[Danielsan]

As an outsider from Western Europe I continue to be astonished by the existence and popularity of the GOP. I hope for America's sake that they get trounced by the democratic party in the coming election.

[Derrick01]

What the hell are you talking about? 99.9% of people who vote for President vote for House/Senate. City water supervisor on the other hand is a different story. Dems will gain seats in the House. In the Senate I see a gain of 2/3 but many project a loss of 2 now that Akin is dead which was at 3.

I'd like to see receipts for those numbers. Is that why Obama won Florida yet we're mostly republican on every other level?

[zomaha]

If ever there were a time for calm discourse between people, it's now.

Not good for ratings, though.

[Future]

I have to admire the consistency. If you are going to protect the fetus, then protect it in all circumstances. Rape is a terrible thing, but in this view so is killing a fetus making this arguement simple.

Curious what this will do to the republican female demographic. If you have ever had an abortion, or want that option in the future, then I suppose you can't vote republican.

[DeathbyVolcano]

What a bunch of fucking clowns.

[Omegasquash]

Not good for ratings, though.

I was talking about calm discourse between neighbors and communities. Ideological lines in the sand are like battle lines, and it's not OK when someone forces a belief on your or your body.

Fuck money, I'm talking about lives, bodies and very very very private things. This isn't about how much we're getting taxed, this is about direct and intrusive control over lives, plural.

It just sickens me that someone could care so very much about another life and at the same time not give two shits about it either.

[Orayn]

I have to admire the consistency. If you are going to protect the fetus, then protect it in all circumstances. Rape is a terrible thing, but in this view so is killing a fetus making this arguement simple. Curious what this will do to the republican female demographic. If you have ever had an abortion, or want that option in the future, then I suppose you can't vote republican.

This ignores the other major factor of the party - The loving forgiveness of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. He'll let you back in the club via magic if you want to be "born again."

[nemss]

When is enough going to be enough for this type of bullshit? And when are these idiots going to start being held accountable for their comments?

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Fuck me. I think I'd take ten years of margaret Thatcher level conservatives over one week of the GOP.

those people are fucking insane.

[TacticalFox88]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ortion-stance/

It's official.

Wow. WOW! If Dems play this just right, they could get some decent seat gains.


Holy shit.

[Funky Papa]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ortion-stance/ It's official. Wow. WOW! If Dems play this just right, they could get some decent seat gains. Holy shit.

You know this is bad when Fox News is not giving it coverage.

[equap]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ortion-stance/ It's official. Wow. WOW! If Dems play this just right, they could get some decent seat gains. Holy shit.

yeah..when pigs fly!

[The Technomancer]

I have to admire the consistency. If you are going to protect the fetus, then protect it in all circumstances. Rape is a terrible thing, but in this view so is killing a fetus making this arguement simple. Curious what this will do to the republican female demographic. If you have ever had an abortion, or want that option in the future, then I suppose you can't vote republican.

As enormous swathes of collected anecdotes over the decades show (this was posted in the other thread, I'll find a link in a sec) its very possible and maybe not even uncommon to be against all abortions but your own because "my situation is different"

yeah..when pigs fly!

Have you paid attention the last three months?

[Omegasquash]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ortion-stance/ It's official. Wow. WOW! If Dems play this just right, they could get some decent seat gains. Holy shit.

We live in a nation where an honest to god political party can take a stance that directly infringes upon the rights of a gender, victims of a crime and potentially ignores the life of the mother.

And people will vote for this.

[i-Lo]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ortion-stance/ It's official. Wow. WOW! If Dems play this just right, they could get some decent seat gains. Holy shit.

Einstein was wrong. You'll be able go back in time when you vote for GOP.

[speculawyer]

Asking from the UK: Is there any chance that these maniacs could actually win your next election?

Yes.

[thatbox]

This is really delightful timing for the Obama campaign given the Akin fiasco.

[ronito]

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...ortion-stance/ It's official. Wow. WOW! If Dems play this just right, they could get some decent seat gains. Holy shit.

Really? A constitutional amendment? You really think you can get 67% of congress and 75% of states to pass that?

No, no you don't. You're not interested in saving what you consider babies, you're interested in getting people to vote against their own self interest.

Honestly, I find this disgusting. I can understand the reasons why some think abortion abhorrent. I totally get it, but this isn't anyway to end it, this isn't gonna stop a single abortion and to play on people's heart strings like this? Of course the dems will be accused of the same playing to women voters but then, they aren't the ones proposing an impossible amendment are they?

[equap]

Have you paid attention the last three months?

please explain.

[ghst]

so, should the republicans win a clean sweep and america reverts to this fundamentalist christian sharia corporatocracy, who's gonna be first on the boat?

[vcassano1]

please explain.

They've completely brutalised Romney's campaign for the last few months, to the point where the Ryan VP pick was necessary to give his campaign something, anything.

[phosphor112]

Quoted for size reduction.

[Nerfgun]

abortions for some

miniature American flags for others

[morch]

so, should the republicans win a clean sweep and america reverts to this fundamentalist christian sharia corporatocracy, who's gonna be first on the boat?

so the religious nuts left England to go to the new land, country becomes quite rational and very successful, then slowly ditches the rationalism forcing the sane people to leave LOL

odd, but sadly coming true, problem is religion seems to be taking a hold on regular people now, along with silly levels of patriotism rather than just taking the friendly mick out of neighbours lol :p

[Raxus]

so, should the republicans win a clean sweep and america reverts to this fundamentalist christian sharia corporatocracy, who's gonna be first on the boat?

Nobody, since that isn't going to happen. God it is like that South Park episode all over again...

[marathonfool]

Matter of time before the Romney campaign will need to address this.

[DeathbyVolcano]

Really? A constitutional amendment? You really think you can get 67% of congress and 75% of states to pass that? No, no you don't. You're not interested in saving what you consider babies, you're interested in getting people to vote against their own self interest. Honestly, I find this disgusting. I can understand the reasons why some think abortion abhorrent. I totally get it, but this isn't anyway to end it, this isn't gonna stop a single abortion and to play on people's heart strings like this? Of course the dems will be accused of the same playing to women voters but then, they aren't the ones proposing an impossible amendment are they?

This is just to rile their base, its all show. They don't actually expect to be able to pass an amendment for this.

[Eschaton]

Dunno if posted already but..

[JCreasy]

Matter of time before the Romney campaign will need to address this.

This!

Can he run against his own party's platform?

[CharlieDigital]

Posted in PoliGAF proper, but this is more or less The Handsmaid's Tale unfolding before our eyes.

[phosphor112]

Posted in PoliGAF proper, but this is more or less The Handsmaid's Tale unfolding before our eyes.

Damn, that terrorist attack thing in the book.

Conspiracy shit right thur.

[CharlieDigital]

Damn, that terrorist attack thing in the book. Conspiracy shit right thur.

Keep going. Your mind will be blown.

[HamPster PamPster]

Weren't people saying yesterday the GOP was pressuring Akin to drop out of the race because of his comments... and today his comments are the offical GOP abortion position?

[Hitokage]

We use the term "Islamist" to describe Muslims who want theocratic government while keeping them separate from Muslims who feel otherwise, but in the Christian world we act as if such a thing is normal.

[SquiddyCracker]

Posted in PoliGAF proper, but this is more or less The Handsmaid's Tale unfolding before our eyes.

The Handmaid's Tale is set in the near future in the Republic of Gilead, a country formed within the borders of what was formerly the United States of America. It was founded by a racist, homophobic, male chauvinist, nativist, theocratic-organized military coup as an ideologically driven response to the pervasive ecological, physical and social degradation of the country. Beginning with a staged terrorist attack (blamed on Islamic extremist terrorists) that kills the President and most of Congress, a movement calling itself the "Sons of Jacob" launch a revolution and suspend the United States Constitution under the pretext of restoring order. Taking advantage of electronic banking, they were quickly able to freeze the assets of all women and other "undesirables" in the country, stripping them of their rights. The new theocratic military dictatorship, styled "The Republic of Gilead", moved quickly to consolidate its power and reorganize society along a new militarized, hierarchical, compulsorily Christian regime of Old Testament-inspired social and religious orthodoxy among its newly created social classes. In this society, almost all women are forbidden to read.

This is totally the end-game of the GOP.

[Measley]

Do people honestly still believe that the two parties are one in the same?

[TacticalFox88]

This! Can he run against his own party's platform?

Holy shit I just realized this :lol :lol

Romney is so fucked it's ridiculous.

1) If he runs with his party's platform then Obama will HAMMER ads that he supports anti-woman policies and tie him to Akin

2) If he doesn't run with the party's platform, he alienates them and some will undoubtedly turn against him, fracturing the party, and Obama will STILL find a way to link him to Akin indirectly.

Soooogooood.jpg.

[SquiddyCracker]

Do people honestly still believe that the two parties are one in the same?

They're the same-y, where they truly differ is in the social matters - where one side is socially regressive.

[TacticalFox88]

They're the same, only one side is also social regressivists.

.............

[Measley]

They're the same, only one side is also social regressivists.

?


Wouldn't that mean they're not the same?

[commedieu]

Do people honestly still believe that the two parties are one in the same?

Internationally, Yes. On the greater Federal level? Yes. The rich continue to proliferate and distance themselves from the disapearing middle class, and the poor. Illegal wars are continued to be fought with our taxes, and they all give money to bankers that stole it from the population. Guantanamo stays open.

Locally, no. Repbulicans are clearly fucking insane fundamentalist that want us all to follow the bible. I'm conflicted, as I do not support the 1 party system, but you have to when it comes to local issues, or any issues that immediately affect people.

I mean, these are the issues that we are supposed to debate about, they keep us thinking that its a 2 party system, and that 1 party has your interests in mind, while the other doesn't. Neither have our issues in mind, just the special interests and banking outfits that run the country.

But if during the game, we can do a few things that help women from being violated by religion, I guess thats all the victory that can be had.

[NullPointer]

Internationally, Yes.

Can you go into more detail on this? I'm not seeing it.

[Chichikov]

Posted in PoliGAF proper, but this is more or less The Handsmaid's Tale unfolding before our eyes.

Nah, it's just the death throes of a failed ideology.
Failed ideologies always go full retard on their last stages, because by then, only idiots support them.

There are like 5%-15% of the population who support such hard line stance, sadly, they all vote in the GOP primaries, but this is going nowhere on the federal level.

[commedieu]

Can you go into more detail on this? I'm not seeing it.

I mean internationally, the 2 parties are the same. International relationship wise. There is a common american value that both parties share. Thats all.

[el retorno]

I mean internationally, the 2 parties are the same. International relationship wise. There is a common american value that both parties share. Thats all.

Nope.

One side wants to ignore the UN the other sides uses it. For one

[Meier]

Dunno if posted already but..

Sadly prescient.