[Oyashrio-Sama]

I really loved Lords of Shadow but this looks pretty bad. It looks like they are doing a literal translation of LoS gameplay to a 2D plane and it just does not look like it works.

[Sid]

What kind of shit example is this? That's an optional boss, notorious for his shitload of HP. Fail. And the game looks weak. Doesn't feel like the classicvanias or the metroidvanias. 250 hits to off a skeleton is zzzz....and the music is again lackluster, a crime in CV. Not impressed or excited, which kills me since Castlevania is one of my favorite franchises. Konami, give the franchise to someone else for the love of god!

It's Mercury Steam's last/second last CV whichever between this and los2 comes earlier

[KenOD]

It has everything I want to make an enjoyable Castlevania for my personal tastes, it just doesn't do any of it right. Sigh.

Maybe I'll finally just cave in and buy Soul of Darkness after all, it's not like it can be any worse.

[Kazuma Kiryu]

this video makes me :(

[Freshmaker]

You all are crazy. I think it looks pretty good.

It looks boring to me. But then I tend to fall asleep during any game where I have to hit a basic enemy a billion times. Only way to make that worse is to make every enemy only finishable via QTE.

[Ahasverus]

Why dont we write our complaints on twitter to Dave Cox and Enric Alvarez (studio director)? it's a small thing but still...

[jett]

Eh, it looks pretty good to me. Framerate is the major flaw right now.

[KevinCow]

I wouldn't even mind a 2D God of War type game, even if it's not really Castlevania. But like Lords of Shadow, this just looks like a clunky, messy, bad God of War style game. A shame.

[Dascu]

Why dont we write our complaints on twitter to Dave Cox and Enric Alvarez (studio director)? it's a small thing but still...

What's Alvarez' twitter?

[rozay]

Why dont we write our complaints on twitter to Dave Cox and Enric Alvarez (studio director)? it's a small thing but still...

I've already done so, and anyone that is bothered by that should tweet them rather than/in addition to commenting about it here!
Cox's twitter: https://twitter.com/castlevanialos

Don't know if Alvarez has one though. Mercurysteam's twitter is here, unsure if the person in charge of it speaks english: https://twitter.com/Mercurysteam

[Ahasverus]

Alvarez HAS a personal twitter and he answers a lot btw but I can't look for it right now. Take a look at who Cox is following you should see him there.

[rozay]

Alvarez HAS a personal twitter and he answers a lot btw but I can't look for it right now. Take a look at who Cox is following you should see him there.

Thanks.

https://twitter.com/Enric_Alvarez

Is he actually working on this or LoS2 though?

[The Bookerman]

The Only thing cox responds to or retweets is about Hyping his damn games.

[Amalthea]

There needs to be more minor enemies that are quicker to kill. And, as much as I hate the flying Medusa heads, there needs to be something to pester the player to stay alert and keep the platforming/exploration interesting. Relatively minor tweaks, other than that I liked what I saw.

Maybe the engine can't handle a lot of enemies so they just use just a few of very hard to beat ones.

Wich sounds like a complete antithesis of Castlevania.

[RobotHaus]

Visually I don't find it too bad. A little washed out or faded, or maybe the palette is too similar where nothing truly pops out, but it looks nice.

But the music, combat, and constant tutorials kind of make it look less than desirable. It looks to be an overly simple experience for all the wrong reasons. Which is upsetting since I love me some Castlevania.

Though I still think a Metroidvania with full game co-op in line of PoR in 2D would be so nice.

[GhostTrick]

Lol... I did complained about framerate and ennemies taking too much hit... can't read Dave Cox's twitter now, it saying "account is protected"
When I try to follow they say I'm blocked :o

[jarosh]

Holy fuck, this does look bad. Ouch.

[rozay]

Haha what the hell, he just blocked me. This was my tweet:

@CastlevaniaLOS I am excited about MoF but the gameplay concerns me. Why does Trevor's whip swing around the entire screen when attacking?

His page now says "Sorry, you can't follow this user (because they're blocking you). Learn more" I guess we're giving bad advice Ahasverus, what a dick.

[redcrayon]

It looks alright to me, but not much like a Castlevania game- the air combos remind me more of God of War/Bayonetta/Devil May Cry etc.

I like the constant barrage of minor enemies in the previous 2D games, which force you to be cautious at the start then you can wade through them quickly as you gain new weapons and abilities. This looks like it slows down the pace with fewer enemies taking far too many hits.

As for 'you got the boomerang' what is this, Zelda? It doesn't look like a boomerang, more like a huge shuriken! Having said that I always wondered the same about the 'skelerangs' in the 2D games, they always seemed a bit out of place compared to the other medieval stuff.

[Starsunder]

Lol... I did complained about framerate and ennemies taking too much hit... can't read Dave Cox's twitter now, it saying "account is protected" When I try to follow they say I'm blocked :o

Haha what the hell, he just blocked me. This was my tweet: His page now says "Sorry, you can't follow this user (because they're blocking you). Learn more"

Bahaha wow.

[Glix]

Haha what the hell, he just blocked me. This was my tweet: His page now says "Sorry, you can't follow this user (because they're blocking you). Learn more" I guess we're giving bad advice Ahasverus, what a dick.

That is unbelievable. What an asshole. I mean, he has no obligation to engage you, but to block you is completely immature.

[GhostTrick]

Haha what the hell, he just blocked me. This was my tweet: His page now says "Sorry, you can't follow this user (because they're blocking you). Learn more" I guess we're giving bad advice Ahasverus, what a dick.

I feel kinda sorry they seems to don't accept critics... I mean, it's not trolling, it's just sort of feedbacks to make the game better...

[Seven Force]

Ouch, that looks kind of awful. I'm not too big a fan of how long enemy encounters seem to take. Might just end up skipping this if some changes aren't made.

Haha what the hell, he just blocked me. This was my tweet: His page now says "Sorry, you can't follow this user (because they're blocking you). Learn more"

Haha wow, what a dick.

[JJConrad]

Maybe the engine can't handle a lot of enemies so they just use just a few of very hard to beat ones. Wich sounds like a complete antithesis of Castlevania.

The early games couldn't handle too many enemies either, so they imposed a limit. A new one would enter the screen once an old one left or being killed, its item was collected or faded away. If they can't recreate something done on the NES, then they're doing something very very wrong. So it's hard for me to imagine that that's the actual reason for that design.

[Cow Mengde]

Why dont we write our complaints on twitter to Dave Cox and Enric Alvarez (studio director)? it's a small thing but still...

LOL

Maybe if you suck Cox he'll respond.

[Aeana]

Wow, it takes way too many attacks to kill stuff.

[Criminal Upper]

You have to remember, this is based on Lords of Shadow, the most successfull (commercially) Castlevania game OF ALL TIME. There's been dozens of bland 2D castlevanias over the years, so complaining that Konami is going with what sells (LoS combat and story, etc) is gonna fall on deaf ears.

[YourMaster]

I could take a game where it takes many hits to kill something, but not with a whip. Just give him a giant hammer or broadsword or something and have give every hit impact. Like smacking the enemies against the wall and have parts fall off.
Here they flash red to see you actually hit them.

I won't buy this one, a shame because I was looking forward to another one. Guess I'll replay one of the DS ones again sometime.

[BassForever]

Looks bad, Capcom why do you troll me so :'(

[Mercutio]

Wow. I sincerely hope they make significant changes to combat before the new release date. This looks super non-fun.

[Maedhros]

I'm sure combat never was a problem with the metroidvanias OR the classicvanias either. It's actually the best aspect of most of them. Level Design in the early Castlevanias were pretty good too, but they weren't the focus on metroidvanias.

[The Mana Legend]

I absolutely HATE games where the regular enemies take forever to kill.

One of the reasons why I couldn't finish LoS.

[MuddyDonut]

This is scust, I can live without more IGA's, but at least give me something good in it's place.

[Grisby]

Wow, it takes way too many attacks to kill stuff.

That's my concern. The game looks good to me otherwise.

[Khezu]

Don't know what I like less, this, or Igas crap.

Still interested in LoS2 though. Hopefully they can fix the problems of the first.

[Diablohead]

This game does not have a loot system right? in that case having only a few mobs which take 10+ hits to take down is flat out wrong.

[VARIA]

Problem is whoever is playing that demo is just button mashing the same keys with no use of Magic powerups, holds/grappling, or Sub weapons.

Enemies in LoS have a Scissor/Paper/Rock formula that corresponds to your Knife/Holy Water/Fairy etc, subweapon.

For example you can whip the hell out of werewolves in LoS, or just throw a knife and they explode. It actually makes combat more interesting.

[Ridley327]

You have to remember, this is based on Lords of Shadow, the most successfull (commercially) Castlevania game OF ALL TIME. There's been dozens of bland 2D castlevanias over the years, so complaining that Konami is going with what sells (LoS combat and story, etc) is gonna fall on deaf ears.

So we should just accept that they're not going to fix these glaring issues, even though it was delayed into next year for what I imagine is for some extra polishing time, which would be the perfect opportunity to fix them?

[sajj316]

2D-3D looks amazingly. Just saying. Hope someone listens.

[MuddyDonut]

It's too bad OoE fell on so many deaf ears. It was IGA's best since SoTN and got rid of the anime shit, plus the uninspired level design. You guys should try it out. pls respond

[RurouniZel]

I hate when games are designed around enemies being damage/bullet sponges. In old Castlevania games the bosses weren't so much damage sponges (though they took more hits than regular enemies, obviously) as they were just difficult to get close enough to hit without taking damage yourself. This just seems like "Dodge predictable attack, spam 1000 lashes to make it take longer, QTE then win,"

[Herbspicesoy]

First time I heard of "euro-style action beat'em up". Any examples???

[grimshawish]

Honestly? It looks alright gameplay wise, the boss looked interesting as there seems to be some tight jumps there.

However...I don't get why this is 2D, in the end they've tried to continue the DS games, but they lose so much in 3D - hell this game looks like its coming to the PS2 - art in games has changed since then and that seems to have been ignored.

Everything seems...generic...the textures of walls look like that 'wall textures' of every game ever made. Theres no great art work here, in fact it looks like they've kind of rushed in without planning from the beginning or understanding what made the DS games look so hot.


I think the gameplay will be fine, this is an intro level - the game also looks decent. Its not insulting from a graphics perspective. Just from an art perspective its incredibly bland.


This should have just been a 3D game, thats why textures like that were invented. 2D? They could have done a lot more with this, a lot. Am still waiting for Mutant Mudds to start influencing platformers on the 3DS. Hell, even 3D Land seems to have no impact.

So it won't be a 'bad' game just it could have been much more and I think thats what a lot of people see when they see the visuals. Theres just no slant of personality, its a bit of a hack job in that regard (its not lazily made, just some aspects seem 'slapped on').

One thing Capcom could do and I hope Ninty start doing this - is bring some DS games to the 3DS through DD. Shops are carrying less so that is somewhere the e-shop can offer competitive prices. I would snap up a Castlevania Collection in an instant.

This game? I don't think so. I don't understand why you decide to keep the 2D platforming aspect yet go for such uninspired art. Surely the 2D platforming is to control whats on screen better and allow you to better push the system? Its not like the 3DS can't manage a fully 3D game.

[therapist]

It looks pretty good , except the amount of hits everything takes to kill.

If they rectify that i will play it.

Otherwise its just gonna be tedious and boring.

A skeleton / barrel not dying in one hit is retarded.

[ZoddGutts]

Had a feeling that it was going to turn out this way. Doubt they'll be able to fix it even with the delay.

[Godslay]

I don't think Capcom has much say in that decision.

It's a mistake, but I could see how you made it :)

This never seems to fail...

Game looks bad, especially considering that I pretty much bought a 3ds to be able to play Castlevania at some point. At this point, it's not a buy based on what I've seen.

[Giolon]

Do not want. I'm going to go back and re-play Order of Ecclesia in protest.

[Barkley's Justice]

Looks pretty good: 2d God of War? Surprised no one thought of it earlier.

Me, personally, I am not interested in attacking characters for as long as you have to in this game, apparently. Still, pretty cool.

[ED Cantu]

this video makes me :(

You are not the only one, believe me, I was interested in this game at first but after watching more gameplay videos my interest started to decrease dramatically.

[hikarutilmitt]

How to make a shitty-looking Castlevania game on a portable:

1) use the mildly successful 3D game
2) dump it onto the portable as best you can
3) stick it to a 2D plane
4) don't do shit else to make it different or appealing

bonus 5) claim to be inspired by what is arguably the best game in the classic series, use characters from it, and screw it all up massively