oh the 60s and 70s
...to? Greenland? Well, that's usually considered its own thing, since it's autonomous and all. It's usually not included when people talk about "Denmark proper".Not so sure about that *looks west*
Just do it like yours. A Västra Götaland meetup in Gothenburg, I guess?Just format it in a way you would like (like mine, or some other way) and I'll put it in there
what is an average salary in Sweden? I mean those who you consider a middle class.
Hey, we're kind of neighbors! I come from Mariestad and worked in Skövde this summer. Although now I've moved back to Linköping, where I study.Will be interesting to see how many Swedes Neo-gaf has lured into its clutches...
Skövde-gaf representing!
P.S. Mariestad>Skövde
Average monthly salary (with all jobs, genders, ages etc included) for 2011 was 29000 SEK (~4355 USD). Median monthly salary was 25900 SEK (~3889 USD) which is in the vicinity of what I would consider a middle class wage.Originally Posted by subversus
it's interesting.
what is an average salary in Sweden? I mean those who you consider a middle class.
Average monthly salary was 24,600 SEK in 2005:Originally Posted by subversus
it's interesting.
what is an average salary in Sweden? I mean those who you consider a middle class.
http://www.scb.se/Pages/PressRelease____178714.aspx
Around 25-30000 SEK/month = 300 000-360 000 SEK/year = $45-55000/year -33% income tax = ~$30-36000/year, but that doesn't really tell you much since you have to take into account fluctuating exchange rates, the fact that we have free education and health care (and thus a larger percent of our salary as disposable income) etc.Originally Posted by subversus
it's interesting.
what is an average salary in Sweden? I mean those who you consider a middle class.
Alldeles för många.Will be interesting to see how many Swedes Neo-gaf has lured into its clutches...
Skövde-gaf representing!
I'm from Scania, so do I get to double dip?
Men åtminstone finns det två rediga pågar här!I am from Skåne, the southernmost part of Sweden. So, basically I am danish. :D
To all you foreigners, bow down to Swedish music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USh-6hYJ8YM lol
I guess that kind of depends on where you live, though. My mum works half time in eldercare and my father works as a programmer with a pay around 32k/month. We live in a quite small town and I'd say we're a bit over average. I guess it helps a bit that I doesn't live at home anymore, though.Originally Posted by RoadHazard
It's probably a bit higher than that now, but definitely not as high as 35 000 SEK for the average person.
Put yourself in a housing queue now, if you haven't already.Originally Posted by Fudgepuppy
I'm planning on moving to Skövde next fall. How's the housing situation there now? Getting an apartment when starting to study can be such a hassle.
Norrland-GAF |OT| När du vill vara dig själv för en stund
Northland-GAF |OT| Why not be yourself for a moment
Well, we do have "gräv bort skåne"...Swe-gaf should put our collective skills together and redo that Bugs Bunny gif, but instead of cutting away Florida... well, you get what I'm saying...
<3 skäääööååneeehh <3
Disclaimer: I have nothing against Skåne. My dad's from Skåne but moved at age five, so techically that makes me half-Skånish... uh... half-skånsk? half-scone?
EDIT: I have some spare time. I'm making that gif.
But maaaan, fuck those prices.
is it possible possible build lifetime of substantial savings into retirement ? As a foreigner my perception ( which can be wrong, if so point it out) is that it's an expensive place. True for locals as well ?Trollhättan represent! Please don't ask about SAAB going bankrupt :(
Average monthly salary (with all jobs, genders, ages etc included) for 2011 was 29000 SEK (~4355 USD). Median monthly salary was 25900 SEK (~3889 USD) which is in the vicinity of what I would consider a middle class wage.
So, what keeps Sweden in such a good shape? What industries do you have?
En sak jag undrat, heter du verkligen Kjellson med ett s?A Scandinavia OT would have been better imo.
Har själv med två s så ;)
We'll have Bamse digging Skåne loose instead.Swe-gaf should put our collective skills together and redo that Bugs Bunny gif, but instead of cutting away Florida... well, you get what I'm saying...
<3 skäääööååneeehh <3
You don't really need to save up stuff for retirement, a percentage of your paycheck is taken by the government and put towards savings to be used later and even if you are dirt-poor the government will still provide for you. Sure, pensioners usually complain about not getting enough money, but it sounds expensive because the Swedish krona is really strong at the moment.Originally Posted by Nesotenso
is it possible possible build lifetime of substantial savings into retirement ? As a foreigner my perception ( which can be wrong, if so point it out) is that it's an expensive place. True for locals as well ?
Well, it depends. You should really be member at skovdebostader.se and build up your points, but you could also try your luck on the private market... although they seem to not be that fond of students. I managed to snag a 2:a through HSB but I think I managed to do so since I'm currently working but I'm going to study this fall ;)Originally Posted by Fudgepuppy
I'm planning on moving to Skövde next fall. How's the housing situation there now? Getting an apartment when starting to study can be such a hassle.
Can't replace Sweden tbh. Went to Paris for close to 3 years, enough to really "appreciate" the backwards taxation system of France and then to Ireland. All in the name of work, very good work mind you.Well.. don't blueball me tell us where you went! Where could you possibly go and find a better country than Sweden? Where I asks ya?
Thank god for swedishfoodshop.com though I tell you. Recently discovered it and I now have jättesalt och oboy o skit igen. Helt grymt.
The world leading manufacturer of ballbearings and miniature wooden horses.Originally Posted by subversus
Yeah, you guys are rich.
So, what keeps Sweden in such a good shape? What industries do you have?
I hear ya, Swedish candy is good enough to bring Odysseus himself back from the other side of the world.Originally Posted by Tunesmith
Can't replace Sweden tbh. Went to Paris for close to 3 years, enough to really "appreciate" the backwards taxation system of France and then to Ireland. All in the name of work, very good work mind you.
Thank god for swedishfoodshop.com though I tell you. Recently discovered it and I now have jättesalt och oboy o skit igen. Helt grymt.
Going by the OP healthcare and education is free but seems to be offset by high income tax ? What would be the rate for someone earning the median income ?Originally Posted by SquiddyBiscuit
You don't really need to save up stuff for retirement, a percentage of your paycheck is taken by the government and put towards savings to be used later and even if you are dirt-poor the government will still provide for you. Sure, pensioners usually complain about not getting enough money, but it sounds expensive because the Swedish krona is really strong at the moment.
The money you get from the government is probably about 1/2 or so of what your salary was, so I'd say saving up some for yourself (in retirement funds or whatever) is pretty mandatory if you want a comfortable retirement.Originally Posted by SquiddyBiscuit
You don't really need to save up stuff for retirement, a percentage of your paycheck is taken by the government and put towards savings to be used later and even if you are dirt-poor the government will still provide for you. Sure, pensioners usually complain about not getting enough money, but it sounds expensive because the Swedish krona is really strong at the moment.
My moms side is Swedish and Norwegian. Always been proud of that.
I went through Scandinavia a couple years ago. The overnight ferry from Helsinki to Stockholm and then took the super nice X2000 train or whatever to Copenhagen. Not the fastest train but it was beautiful. The scenery on that ride was also very nice. I took the night train from malmo to Berlin was pretty nice the train goes into a ship!
I don't know if I could live in Sweden though. The weather is a bit cold, and the super long short days would drive me crazy I think.
I can save about 10k a month, but I don't smoke or drinkOriginally Posted by Nesotenso
is it possible possible build lifetime of substantial savings into retirement ? As a foreigner my perception ( which can be wrong, if so point it out) is that it's an expensive place. True for locals as well ?
Metropolitan areas are expensive but the suburbs are cheaper since the peasants work and live there
Our generation will have a hard time living on our future pensions. There should be no illusions regarding this. So be prepared and start saving on our own asap. I'm 28 and I have already started saving.Originally Posted by SquiddyBiscuit
You don't really need to save up stuff for retirement, a percentage of your paycheck is taken by the government and put towards savings to be used later and even if you are dirt-poor the government will still provide for you. Sure, pensioners usually complain about not getting enough money, but it sounds expensive because the Swedish krona is really strong at the moment.
Swedish citizens were robbed by our government during the 90ies crisis. Huge amounts of pension money was used. Look it up yourself. Future generations will pay for that.
Time for bed. :-P Godnatt!
My 'foreign' fiancé freaked out that the sun "never set" (eg. not before 23:00) and rose again at 03:00 during the summer in Gothenburg. Personally though I miss that, especially after having experienced Asian equatorial summer where shit gets dark at 17:00. That's winter patterns right there.Hi Sweden gaf :)
My moms side is Swedish and Norwegian. Always been proud of that.
I don't know if I could live in Sweden though. The weather is a bit cold, and the super long short days would drive me crazy I think.
Midnight sun is great too if you further north.
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