[Endo Punk]

Why is it that if someone prefers Nolan Bat films or Burton Bat films they feel compelled to hate on the other? Also Nolan Bat films take a giant dump on Burton's, saw them last month and they made cringe like nothing else and yes I can go back and enjoy Adam West Batman. Burton's just feels so alien and stupid, Im an 80's kid too and I have no nostalgia for these films. The only thing I liked was Basinger as Vale.

[Quackula]

Yeah I didn't say he was the best actor, just the best cast joker.

Hamill?

[reilo]

If you're a teenager who's trying too hard to be cool then obviously something so shamelessly awesome would just fly over your head.

/rolleyes

Yeah I didn't say he was the best actor, just the best cast joker.

I'm a huge Jack Nicholson fan, but Ledger outdid him tenfold -- and that's due to no fault of Jack. He did the best with the shit script he was given -- and probably gave the character even more than what was available.

[Quackula]

Why is it that if someone prefers Nolan Bat films or Burton Bat films they feel compelled to hate on the other? Also Nolan Bat films take a giant dump on Burton's, saw them last month and they made cringe like nothing else and yes I can go back and enjoy Adam West Batman. Burton's just feels so alien and stupid.

You gotta choose sides man, this is a WAR.

Only one set of films will survive.

[Lionel Mandrake]

#plotholes

[DMczaf]

If you're a teenager who's trying too hard to be cool then obviously something so shamelessly awesome would just fly over your head.

If you were too young, too old or a teenager trying too hard to be cool, you won't understand Burton's craziness?

I have no idea what age you have to be now.

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

#plotholes

I don't think the drink thing indicates a mistake, just a weird character being weird.

edit: or maybe the video is a joke?

[Makoto]

Burton's Batman films had more POETRY.

[Medalion]

#plotholes

Not sure if Joking

[Endo Punk]

#plotholes

I thought it was intentional lol. Oh well it added to the insanity of the character? The glass is empty? fuck it Im gonna take a sip anyway, lol.

[Femmeworth]

12 million is hardly massive.

[reilo]

If you were too young, too old or a teenager trying too hard to be cool, you won't understand Burton's craziness? I have no idea what age you have to be now.

Not just that, but I'd venture to guess that most of posting in this thread were anywhere from -3 to 5 years old when Batman was released in 1989.

Shit, I even saw Batman & Robin in theaters. I (my parents) paid for that shit.

[EVOL 100%]

#plotholes

It's a weird character being weird.

[Endo Punk]

Burton's Batman films had more POETRY.

Bateman has spoken.

[universalmind]

#plotholes

I don't know what I'll do with my life if ur srs

[wenis]

89' Batman is it's own thing... why compare? Does the fanboy pot really need stirring that much? They do a pretty good job of over inflating the worth of both series on their own...

[Sentry]

The REAL Joker does indeed spray paints museums while listneing to hip hop. Nolan's Joker is just some kind of grunge hipster who sniffed too many bath salts. Nolan Joker would SHIT HIS PANTS if he was confronted by the real joker

So ass backwards it's not even funny.

[Hero_of_the_Day]

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LOfuckingL! Holy shit that's awesome. How have I not seen this before?

EDIT: Also LOL at people wondering if you're serious. I guess not everybody on Gaf lived in the 10 Dark Knight Rises threads.

[Quackula]

Not just that, but I'd venture to guess that most of posting in this thread were anywhere from -3 to 5 years old when Batman was released in 1989. Shit, I even saw Batman & Robin in theaters. I (my parents) paid for that shit.

I was born when Batman '89 came out.

Watched lots of TAS when I was little, didn't see '89 until I was like... 9 or 10? Didn't care for it then.

If it's a 'you had to be there'/nostalgia thing then... well I don't know what to tell you.

[Anticitizen One]

pretty sure it was intentional because batman did it too

[DMczaf]

89' Batman is it's own thing... why compare? Does the fanboy pot really need stirring that much? They do a pretty good job of over inflating the worth of both series on their own...

Because IGN needs hits, so they're comparing the 2nd highest ticket selling Batman to the 3rd highest and we get the hilarity of this thread.

[Endo Punk]

So ass backwards it's not even funny.

And both will shit themselves if confronted by BANE.

[Buddha Beam]

Not just that, but I'd venture to guess that most of posting in this thread were anywhere from -3 to 5 years old when Batman was released in 1989. Shit, I even saw Batman & Robin in theaters. I (my parents) paid for that shit.

I saw Batman and Robin twice in the theaters. The second time because I thought it couldn't possibly have been as bad as I thought it was, and I must not have been in the mood to see it the first time.

That was an important lesson in learning to to stop doubting myself all the time.

[Lionel Mandrake]

LOfuckingL! Holy shit that's awesome. How have I not seen this before? EDIT: Also LOL at people wondering if you're serious. I guess not everybody on Gaf lived in the 10 Dark Knight Rises threads.

I've lived long enough to see myself become the villain.

[Medalion]

You... are my number one... GUY!

[Lionel Mandrake]

You... are my number one... GUY!

[Quackula]

I saw Batman and Robin twice in the theaters. The second time because I thought it couldn't possibly have been as bad as I thought it was, and I must not have been in the mood to see it the first time. That was an important lesson in learning to to stop doubting myself all the time.

Had this experience with Spider-Man 3.

Luckily though it was when I worked at a theater so I didn't have to pay for it either time I saw it. Still though...

...yuck.

[Al-ibn Kermit]

Hamill?

Probably he was the best, but just sticking with movies.

If you were too young, too old or a teenager trying too hard to be cool, you won't understand Burton's craziness? I have no idea what age you have to be now.

I'm only giving angsty teenagers the exception to tug on Nolan's nuts.

I'm a huge Jack Nicholson fan, but Ledger outdid him tenfold -- and that's due to no fault of Jack. He did the best with the shit script he was given -- and probably gave the character even more than what was available.

But you're totally wrong. Ledger made him look like a brooding, serious psychopath and criminal mastermind. While Nicholson made him seem like somebody who only enjoyed destruction and chaos and would actually laugh in a non-sarcastic way.

[Anticitizen One]

And both will shit themselves if confronted by BANE.

Are we talking about nolan's bane? the one who got friendzone'd by talia or the real bane from the comics?

[Mxrz]

As a veteran of the summer '89 movie season, let me tell you that Batman felt like it was hyped about five orders of magnitude above any other movie to date. It obviously wasn't the first blockbuster movie, but it was arguably the first "tentpole" event movie marketed to have everyone and their dog ready to see it opening weekend. Not in the least bit surprised that it sold a shit-ton of tickets even by today's standards. The marketing for pretty much every major summer release for the last twenty years follows from Batman '89.

Yep. I was only eight at the time, but its the only time I've ever seen such a long line to see a movie. It crossed the entire parking lot twice over.

I don't think any Batman flick will come close to the 89 in most respects. It just had too much going for it, and Nicholson's Joker was spot on. He captured that hint of diabolic evil that the Comic Joker had picked up in the 80s, while retaining that sense of 'crazy fun.' You could party with him all night, and then he would shoot you at sunrise.

[DrForester]

Romero doesn't get enough respect. He defined the Joker laugh that everyone since has continues to emulate.

[reilo]

Spider-Man 3 was another turd that could be easily dismissed as "it's just Raimi being Raimi and campy and super awesome crazy, you guys just don't understand!"

Actually, that's the best comparison out there. Batman/Batman Returns is akin to Spider-Man 3.

And I love the Evil Dead series, so I am not beyond understanding crazy/campy.

[G-Fex]

Lionel this awful arguing is giving me a headache.

Let's broaden our minds.

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

#plotholes

If thats true heath was the joker forreal he didnt even twitch to mess up his acting its like it just flowed with him.

[Byakuya769]

Ha Ha Ha. And GAF said the Avengers would suck and flop.

[The Mana Legend]

wut just wut

Ledger Joker wasn't frightening at all and was a wimp who accomplished nothing.

Nicholson Joker got shit done.

[Guzim]

Romero doesn't get enough respect. He defined the Joker laugh that everyone since has continues to emulate.

I love the episode where he's playing baseball in jail.

[Endo Punk]

Are we talking about nolan's bane? the one who got friendzone'd by talia or the real bane from the comics?

No Im talking about the real Nolan Bane who escaped from a falling plane, had an awesome showdown with the bat and took down an entire city all while having the best lines.

[ThatCrazyGuy]

Maybe more people went because tickets were cheaper? Idk.

Both good movies. I prefer the Nolan stuff though.

Makes me think about the game publishers and how some just give revenue and not units sold.

I like the ticket breakdowns.

[Anticitizen One]

Nolan seemed like he was more interested in making documentaries about crime in like Boston and the problems with the legal system in America rather than actually creating good comic movies. If you go back and watch Begins the movie was like a student film it was poorly edited and the action scenes were abysmal. It took him three movies to finally learn how to shoot a picture.

[Endo Punk]

Ledger Joker wasn't frightening at all and was a wimp who accomplished nothing. Nicholson Joker got shit done.

While dancing to Prince....

[Guzim]

While dancing to Prince....

You mean hip-hop.

[G-Fex]

Remember that one time the joker Gimmicked the vending machines at the high school to dispense silver dollars or stock bonds?

Dastardly criminal

[reilo]

Although I don't think anybody would seriously argue against Jack Nicholson being the best cast Joker ever. He brought such a pure bloodthirsty insanity to the character.

But you're totally wrong. Ledger made him look like a brooding, serious psychopath and criminal mastermind.

Make up your mind.

While Nicholson made him seem like somebody who only enjoyed destruction and chaos and would actually laugh in a non-sarcastic way.

"Some people just like to watch the world burn."

[Makoto]

Nolan seemed like he was more interested in making documentaries about crime in like Boston and the problems with the legal system in America rather than actually creating good comic movies. If you go back and watch Begins the movie was like a student film it was poorly edited and the action scenes were abysmal. It took him three movies to finally learn how to shoot a picture.

I don't agree with the last sentence. By the time Rises came around, he traded in the poor editing and action scenes for extremely questionable writing and poor pacing.

[Devolution]

And both will shit themselves if confronted by BANE.

[The Mana Legend]

While dancing to Prince....

And parading around Gotham, gassing and murdering hundreds of people.

Ledger blew up a hospital with no one in it.

[Branduil]

Personally I'll never understand the animosity towards either set of films when the direction and themes are completely different. Now the Joel Schumacher ones, terrible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj2KcFj1jbE#t=2m17s

[Matrix]

Ledger Joker wasn't frightening at all and was a wimp who accomplished nothing. Nicholson Joker got shit done.

He got killed... the end.

[Quackula]

Guys guys guys you've all got it wrong

Best Batman is the 1940s serial.