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Wanny
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(08-26-2012, 06:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by Durante

Well, the guy who has posted 8 screenshots or so with obvious SSAO seems to have gotten it to work, but I wasn't able to reproduce that.

We need that guy to come over here and explain to us.
INDIGO_CYCLOPS
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(08-26-2012, 06:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zzoram

You made the right decision. This game looks and runs so much better than on PC . They also fixed some bugs and balanced some items/weapons. No complete list of patch notes is available so far but the PC version definitely has changes since the last console patch.

He he

I know what you meant though
Hoo-doo
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(08-26-2012, 07:05 PM)
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How are you going to slowly creep around corners with your shield up like a scared turtle with a keyboard?

Because that's how I play Dark Souls.

It's a shame they botched the KB/M controls though.
derwalde
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(08-26-2012, 07:07 PM)
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edit: wrong thread
Lord-Audie
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(08-26-2012, 07:08 PM)
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How come Durante hasn't been tagged?

I vote for the same OT tag.
Zeliard
(08-26-2012, 07:08 PM)
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Let's lighten the mood and talk about the simmer hatred Durante clearly has for Solaire.



'Course when the alternative is this,



The choice is clear. You'll just have to imagine your sun, Solaire. I like that the subdued sun makes Solaire seem even nuttier than usual.
derwalde
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(08-26-2012, 07:08 PM)
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i hope ATI releases a performance fix. all those nvidia cards can go for downsampling :O
Enkidu
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(08-26-2012, 07:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hoo-doo

How are you going to slowly creep around corners with your shield up like a scared turtle with a keyboard?

Because that's how I play Dark Souls.

It's a shame they botched the KB/M controls though.

By holding down shift (or whatever key it is) to walk instead of run?
Durante
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(08-26-2012, 07:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeliard

Let's lighten the mood and talk about the simmer hatred Durante clearly has for Solaire.

Lies! I praise the sun all the time. (I really need to find out what's going on there)

undu
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(08-26-2012, 07:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by TucoBenedictoPacifico

Yeah, that's pretty much it. So?
One control system is great, the other sucks hard.
It's not really a dilemma, pick the one that works. You don't get some horrendous illness using a gamepad.

And it's not that someone is forcing you to buy a Saitek professional flight cloche or a racing wheel.
It's a motherfucking 20€ gamepad. Anyone should have one these days.

Complaints on this topic seem extremely pointless to me.

Just because Durante fixed the framebuffer doesn't mean kb+mouse controls are acceptable and people shouldn't be able to complain and ask for good ones. Get over it.
Anteater
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(08-26-2012, 07:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by INDIGO_CYCLOPS

So he's saying it's highly praised because it's different and unique? What's the problem with that.

Honestly I don't think the game needs much more done visually.

I think he's saying the game gets praised because it's "old school" but also commenting that it's terrible for the same reason.
RedSwirl
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(08-26-2012, 07:25 PM)
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God damn man. All this has singlehandedly made me seriously consider double-dipping after I get through a bit more of my Steam backlog.

The framerate isn't as big a concern for me and I understand how it's not at the top of the priority list, but it would be cool if someone started investigating it.

As for KB+M, this is Skyrim and Dead Space all over again. At least with Skyrim we had someone re-mod the entire UI. With Dead Space and even its sequel Visceral Games straight up told players that they would prefer people used the 360 pad. Of course the problem with this is assuming every PC gamer has a 360 pad. I don't think they relented on that issue at all until they saw a video of a quadriplegic playing a PC game with his head after he had requested fully-mappable controls for DS2.

...and oh yeah - I wish Dark Souls had remappable controls on every platform. Even the 360 version feels weird using the bumpers instead of the triggers for attack and guard. Just another sign of how this was originally intended to be a PS3 game - period.
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CeePhour
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(08-26-2012, 07:38 PM)
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Another copy sold, thanks to you, Durante.

If the world needed another comparison (DSfix 0.4, no special settings): Before vs after.
Corky
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(08-26-2012, 07:38 PM)
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Another copy sold thanks to you Durante and only thanks to you. I was 100% sure I wouldn't buy the game considering everything around the pc version.

Now your fix(es) have made me not only buy it but actually look forward to replaying it again!



Thanks!
ipitydatfu
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(08-26-2012, 07:42 PM)
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0.4 is kicking my 2gb 4870 =/
Felix Lighter
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(08-26-2012, 07:42 PM)
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If I look in a very specific direction in Blighttown my framerate goes to shit. If I look towards the large tree from just about anywhere in the level, framerate drops to 15. I look away and it climbs back to 30. What I wouldn't give for a proper performance patch from From.
StarCreator
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(08-26-2012, 07:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pazuzu9

Also, motion blur is superb - really improves the look of the animations of the bosses in particular. I still don't see why it is recommended to switch it off?

It's not, actually. The whole "turn blur off" thing is a misunderstanding caused by calling the in-game AA function a blur filter in the readme.
Yoshichan
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(08-26-2012, 07:50 PM)
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Originally Posted by Corky

Another copy sold thanks to you Durante and only thanks to you. I was 100% sure I wouldn't buy the game considering everything around the pc version.

Now your fix(es) have made me not only buy it but actually look forward to replaying it again!



Thanks!

Absolutely fucking ridiculous.
Pachinko
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(08-26-2012, 07:52 PM)
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Durante's resolution patch looks pretty damn amazing for a few days work from a fan.

I notice though, one reason why from software may have not bothered on their end was just a simple lack of experience. They built the entire game, framerate, textures and art assets to work at 1 specific resolution , I'm noticing that the real HD shots of the game all the 3d stuff looks far better but the 2d assets must all be low res images, even the text looks all distorted due to being blown up.

Is it possible to hack in an HD font or even resize the font during 1080+ rendering so it and the HUD don't get increased with the 3D graphics ? Just curious is all, not a demand.
BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 07:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Felix Lighter

If I look in a very specific direction in Blighttown my framerate goes to shit. If I look towards the large tree from just about anywhere in the level, framerate drops to 15. I look away and it climbs back to 30. What I wouldn't give for a proper performance patch from From.

New drivers from NVIDIA or AMD depending on your card will be the biggest boost. Especially considering no drivers have been released yet that have optimized Dark Souls on the PC.
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Durante
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(08-26-2012, 07:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pachinko

Is it possible to hack in an HD font or even resize the font during 1080+ rendering so it and the HUD don't get increased with the 3D graphics ? Just curious is all, not a demand.

Both are possible, and on my list of 50 million things to do ;)
Pachinko
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(08-26-2012, 07:59 PM)
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Ah nice. Well I think , seeing as I have a dozen other games to play, I will wait until durante has essentially finished this excellent patcher and pick up this game for whatever it's worth when I've actually got some time to play it. :D
BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 08:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Felix Lighter

If I look in a very specific direction in Blighttown my framerate goes to shit. If I look towards the large tree from just about anywhere in the level, framerate drops to 15. I look away and it climbs back to 30. What I wouldn't give for a proper performance patch from From.

Try lowering your settings some more and see if that still occurs. Reminds me of Batman Arkham City with tessellation. I can have a solid 60fps max settings but the moment I was within view of an object being tessellated my fps would drop drastically down into the 20s or 30s. Given there is no tessellation in Dark Souls, but possibly something else with those objects being in view that is causing more work for your hardware.
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Easy_D
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(08-26-2012, 08:03 PM)
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So Durante, seeing as it's going to be especially cheap for me to purchase the game because of me being able to purchase from GMG in USD coupled with a 20% off coupon (Which I'm only doing thanks to you), do you accept donations?
RockTurtle
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(08-26-2012, 08:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by Durante

Both are possible, and on my list of 50 million things to do ;)

is there anythign we can do to assist you Durante. i know jack diddly about programming or computers, but you have my axe (+5 lightning)

Originally Posted by Easy_D

So Durante, seeing as it's going to be especially cheap for me to purchase the game because of me being able to purchase from GMG in USD coupled with a 20% off coupon (Which I'm only doing thanks to you), do you accept donations?

His blog has a paypal link
Nabs
(08-26-2012, 08:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Easy_D

So Durante, seeing as it's going to be especially cheap for me to purchase the game because of me being able to purchase from GMG in USD coupled with a 20% off coupon (Which I'm only doing thanks to you), do you accept donations?

Check his blog in the OP for the link
Zzoram
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(08-26-2012, 08:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Easy_D

So Durante, seeing as it's going to be especially cheap for me to purchase the game because of me being able to purchase from GMG in USD coupled with a 20% off coupon (Which I'm only doing thanks to you), do you accept donations?

His blog where the fix is available for download has a donation link just below
Easy_D
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(08-26-2012, 08:07 PM)
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Thanks you guys, I did read the op but didn't bother checking the actual link out until I own the game itself. I can't wait to get killed repeatedly :)
BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 08:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Easy_D

Thanks you guys, I did read the op but didn't bother checking the actual link out until I own the game itself. I can't wait to get killed repeatedly :)

http://blog.metaclassofnil.com/?p=92 <= Durante has this link in his first post of this thread.
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Durante
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(08-26-2012, 08:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Pachinko

Ah nice. Well I think , seeing as I have a dozen other games to play, I will wait until durante has essentially finished this excellent patcher and pick up this game for whatever it's worth when I've actually got some time to play it. :D

Note that I can't guarantee that anything on that list will actually be finished. I can guarantee though I won't be able to do everything on it ;)

I think the game is totally playable now if you use a gamepad.


Originally Posted by mesmerMAN

is there anythign we can do to assist you Durante. i know jack diddly about programming or computers, but you have my axe (+5 lightning)

The biggest issue is that tomorrow is Monday, so I probably won't get anything done until next weekend.
FtHTiny
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(08-26-2012, 08:11 PM)
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Okay question for the pvp-pros.
Never was really much into pvp on the console and trying now.
Failed to invade = is it server issues or whats going on. It happens so often.
As darkwraith can i invade every level or only around my level?
Also can i get only into new game plus people or also first timers.

Donīt judge me, someone has to get some invasions going! :c
Zzoram
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(08-26-2012, 08:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by FtHTiny

Okay question for the pvp-pros.
Never was really much into pvp on the console and trying now.
Failed to invade = is it server issues or whats going on. It happens so often.
As darkwraith can i invade every level or only around my level?
Also can i get only into new game plus people or also first timers.

Donīt judge me, someone has to get some invasions going! :c

Invading is based on level only, not which NG+ you're in.

You can only invade people within 10 levels +/- 10%, so the higher your level, the larger the level range you can invade IIRC.

One of the Covenants gives you an unlimited use red eye stone for invasion.



You can only be invaded before you kill the boss for that area. If you've killed the boss of an area, it will be safe for you to be there in human form in the future.
BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 08:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Durante

Note that I can't guarantee that anything on that list will actually be finished. I can guarantee though I won't be able to do everything on it ;)

Do you actually have a written list of things to do? If so can you post it?
BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 08:20 PM)

Originally Posted by FtHTiny

Okay question for the pvp-pros.
Never was really much into pvp on the console and trying now.
Failed to invade = is it server issues or whats going on. It happens so often.
As darkwraith can i invade every level or only around my level?
Also can i get only into new game plus people or also first timers.

Donīt judge me, someone has to get some invasions going! :c

There is nothing better than knocking you guys off a cliff.
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Felix Lighter
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(08-26-2012, 08:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by BloodyBonzai

Try lowering your settings some more and see if that still occurs. Reminds me of Batman Arkham City with tessellation. I can have a solid 60fps max settings but the moment I was within view of an object being tessellated my fps would drop drastically down into the 20s or 30s. Given there is no tessellation in Dark Souls, but possibly something else with those objects being in view that is causing more work for your hardware.

I just took the time to do this. Resolution isn't the issue, I get the same performance at 3840 x 2160 as I do at 1920 x 1080. Issue was AF. I disabled the AF option in DSFix and the problem is gone.
BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 08:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Felix Lighter

I just took the time to do this. Resolution isn't the issue, I get the same performance at 3840 x 2160 as I do at 1920 x 1080. Issue was AF. I disabled the AF option in DSFix and the problem is gone.

Gotcha, gonna take some time to mess around with that.
derwalde
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(08-26-2012, 08:27 PM)
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edit: i keep writing in the wrong thread
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Sid
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(08-26-2012, 08:31 PM)
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Thank you durante the game really looks awesome now
Lasthope106
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(08-26-2012, 08:33 PM)
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Durante,

I was wondering if you could provide me with some pointers as to how to become a DirectX badass like you. I recently bought the book "3D Game Programming with DirectX" but I want to review my linear algebra before I start reading it. Any suggestions coming from you would mean a lot to this aspiring game programmer.
FtHTiny
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(08-26-2012, 08:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zzoram

Invading is based on level only, not which NG+ you're in.

You can only invade people within 10 levels +/- 10%, so the higher your level, the larger the level range you can invade IIRC.

One of the Covenants gives you an unlimited use red eye stone for invasion.

Thanks, always thought the darkwraiths can invade everyone.
And the failed invasion are just server issues?
2AdEPT
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(08-26-2012, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by FtHTiny

Okay question for the pvp-pros.
Never was really much into pvp on the console and trying now.
Failed to invade = is it server issues or whats going on. It happens so often.
As darkwraith can i invade every level or only around my level?
Also can i get only into new game plus people or also first timers.

Donīt judge me, someone has to get some invasions going! :c

good ...yes we need more invaders.....in fact with the consoles it was actually gankers that were breaking the game not invaders...i.e they would wait with a team of three right near the spawn point. Notwithstanding, if you can persevere as an invader in that situation it can be very rewarding! Had to use the Titanite demon in ANor Londo, which is normally cheese if you are fighting a regular progression player....and hence why FROM made the Dark anor londo option exist, but for those gankers that don't get it.....its a great strategy!

Yes invade, but try to use a little tact....if a guy (or gal) is human and he either doesn't find a helper or her helper dies on sens fortress...the last thing s/he wants is to get backstabbed while waiting for swinging knives or a rolling ball....we don't want people to go offline for the wrong reasons....even if people experience a "polite" invasion once in a while it will help the community expand.

Here is a short etiquette for invaders (prolly missed some):

Dont heal with humanity or divine blessings or miracles unless the host does so first.
When initially standing off at a distance, bow and allow some time for host to change weapons get buffs prepared etc. especially if they are by themselves or the helpers are there but waiting to fight you one at a time.
Don't gesture in a rude way esp. if there was no reason for the host to deserve a taunt...it is outlawed in football etc. same should apply here.
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teh_pwn
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(08-26-2012, 08:44 PM)
So what happened during development? Seems like they were implementing high res stuff added a couple of higher res textures and then were like "fuck, now we have to test it more with multiple resolutions and video cards, that costs money....lower the res and ship it".
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Durante
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(08-26-2012, 08:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lasthope106

Durante,

I was wondering if you could provide me with some pointers as to how to become a DirectX badass like you. I recently bought the book "3D Game Programming with DirectX" but I want to review my linear algebra before I start reading it. Any suggestions coming from you would mean a lot to this aspiring game programmer.

IMHO, the best introductory book on the topic is "Real-Time Rendering" by Möller and Haines. I don't know if the most recent version has kept up well with modern techniques, but the first edition was great.

It's not focused on DirectX, but the API is really not that important. (Just like the language is not that important for learning programming)
FtHTiny
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(08-26-2012, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by 2AdEPT

Here is a short etiquette for invaders (prolly missed some):

Dont heal with humanity or divine blessings or miracles unless the host does so first.
When initially standing off at a distance, bow and allow some time for host to change weapons get buffs prepared etc. especially if they are by themselves or the helpers are there but waiting to fight you one at a time.
Don't gesture in a rude way esp. if there was no reason for the host to deserve a taunt...it is outlawed in football etc. same should apply here.

Iīm probably to high level to get the real new players anyway right now, but i already had 3 real good duells. With both standing face to face at the beginning. And iīm pretty fresh in the pvp too.
Sl 105 atm.
Visualante2
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(08-26-2012, 08:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sethos

What a bunch of rubbish, you even know what ENB really does? It doesn't improve performance in GTA IV, quite the opposite. And as for 'image quality' that's exactly what I'm talking about. Developers aren't running around going "Oh no, how do we improve the looks of our game!" no, they are building the game within console limitations in many cases or a specific performance budget. Writing an injector that just slaps a ton of expensive effects on top of a game isn't exactly what developer houses are looking for, IF they really wanted those effects it'd be easier ( and cheaper, performance wise ) to write them from scratch. ENB is by no means a performance enhancer.

I was talking about San Andreas.
BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 08:59 PM)

Originally Posted by Felix Lighter

I just took the time to do this. Resolution isn't the issue, I get the same performance at 3840 x 2160 as I do at 1920 x 1080. Issue was AF. I disabled the AF option in DSFix and the problem is gone.

I am not getting any performance issues that cannot be solved by turning down the res. Turning down the TFO from 2 to 1 reduces the demand on your hardware just the same as turning down your res. So I dunno, I am not able to find fps issues that can only be resolved by turning the TFO from 2 to 1.
Jubbly
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(08-26-2012, 09:05 PM)
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I just wanted to thank Durante again for doing what FROM couldn't/wouldn't, but I think I'll play Sleeping Dogs and various other things in my backlog first because I'm sure his work and the work of others will make the game even better in the coming weeks and months.
Felix Lighter
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(08-26-2012, 09:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by BloodyBonzai

I am not getting any performance issues that cannot be solved by turning down the res. Turning down the TFO from 2 to 1 reduces the demand on your hardware just the same as turning down your res. So I dunno, I am not able to find fps issues that can only be resolved by turning the TFO from 2 to 1.

That particular issue just seems to be more sensitive to AF than resolution.
TucoBenedictoPacifico
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(08-26-2012, 09:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by undu

Just because Durante fixed the framebuffer doesn't mean kb+mouse controls are acceptable and people shouldn't be able to complain and ask for good ones. Get over it.

I never said they are acceptable, I said they are shit and there are better options.
Get over it.
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BloodyBonzai
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(08-26-2012, 09:22 PM)

Originally Posted by Felix Lighter

That particular issue just seems to be more sensitive to AF than resolution.

BTW, which tree were you referring to? I was testing with the one at the fireshrine.

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