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Member
(09-08-2012, 02:10 PM)
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#6151
I think Zombie U will show Capcom how a resident evil might be done on the Wii U. Imagine puzzle solving in real time as zombies are at the door using the tablet as a second game screen to solve puzzles on the fly while teeing off on some undead.
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Member
(09-08-2012, 02:15 PM)
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#6152
I assume more than enough of these games will eventually hit the system, so one is better off with an original Capcom game that at least has some kind of chance to be somehow unique and decent. |
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Member
(09-08-2012, 02:16 PM)
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#6153
Plenty of other games have shown Capcom how it should be done but they don't care. They're making silly B-movie action fare with a horror theme. The tension, survival and loneliness aspect of the beloved early games is completely gone and we only ever see short glimpses of it in RE4, Revelations and maybe RE6 (I'm not even mentioning that 5 minute thing with the lickers in RE5...).
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 02:40 PM)
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#6154
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt-iV...ailpage#t=706s
Scroll down to highlight(color: red) http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...+12%3A00+D3BFG
Last edited by Stewox; 09-08-2012 at 03:02 PM.
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Member
(09-08-2012, 02:47 PM)
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#6155
The thing that gets me after watching the new Last of Us gameplay walkthrough, the argument that with the new tech that the next line of consoles will usher in a new era of complexity to scenes and animations and physics and the fallacy of that argument just hit me hard. Even with all the new technical bells and whistles, even with all the streamlining that engines like UE4 will provide, talent will still be the deciding factor as to what can be done with an engine/game.
That's what gets on my nerves whenever people argue for new hardware, as if all those dull uncreative developers would suddenly become talented and creative, as if they were bound by tech instead of their own capabilities/budget. I can count the games where you could feel that the dev. vision was held back severly by the hardware this gen on one hand. (lot more on Wii for sure) Now it's true that you can't measure everyone to the standards of Teams like Naughty Dog or Retro or EAD1, but realistically speaking, the average game won't suddenly become anywhere near as ambitious or sophisticated as The Last of Us. There is no "Last of Us-it" Button that does the work for you. It's like with Photoshop. Sure you have more options with CS6, but it doesn't make bad designers suddenly better. It just gives them more filters and flare effects. |
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(09-08-2012, 02:56 PM)
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#6156
What makes you say Lord of the Rings lego won't be on Wii-U? Is that just your personal hunch or are you saying it as if you know something?
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Member
(09-08-2012, 03:00 PM)
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#6157
Hey Gaf I was wondering what would be the best bang for my buck:
Option 1) Buy a Wii-U and be able to play Pikmin, Smash Brawl, and the latest supposedly amazing rpgs like Xenoblades and Last story Option 2) Buy a Vita and play all the awesome psp rpgs for it including the new persona coming out soon In the long run which do you think will have more fun and good games coming up in the *new*generation? Which one is more worth it? |
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(09-08-2012, 03:05 PM)
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#6158
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Member
(09-08-2012, 03:07 PM)
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#6159
I'd say get a cheap PSP because then you can take advantage of heavily discounted or used UMD games. Which in turn allows you to get a Wii U as well. Then get a Vita later next year when there are finally some games and the eventual price drop happened. |
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(09-08-2012, 03:10 PM)
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#6160
Sorry, I'm probably biased. I'm gonna follow my own advice, though. Hm...getting a regular PSP is prolly a good idea too. |
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(09-08-2012, 03:10 PM)
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#6161
I'm not well aware of Vita lineup, it has some interesting Japanese niche games, but those being so niche not always make to an overseas release. PSP games on Vita is a plus too. |
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 03:14 PM)
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#6162
I would get a WiiU early just to pry open it up and see what's inside. Ofcourse If I win a lottery ticket before it gets out.
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Member
(09-08-2012, 03:15 PM)
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#6163
Most games in Q1 2013 started dev long before devs even knew of Wii Us existence. Wich is the reason for the lack of ports of the Q1 2013 games. You canīt just easily squeeze a completely new system into a tight dev scheudle.
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Will Suck Cock While GDGF Watches
(09-08-2012, 03:17 PM)
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#6164
Nintendo exclusive IPs/content versus SCE exclusive IPs/content. Whichever you prefer, with the added factor of portable versus console, is the one you choose. Neither have a secure future when it comes to a consistent flow of high quality titles and third party support, but all will have good games. It's a matter of preference and that is a decision nobody can make but you.
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Member
(09-08-2012, 03:20 PM)
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#6165
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Member
(09-08-2012, 03:23 PM)
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#6166
Yeah but a Revelations followup on a console would require a production budget similar to RE6.
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Junior Member
(09-08-2012, 03:33 PM)
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#6167
It's a major sequel to a good game? We don't have the final word but ports of good to great games should be expected. I'm not happy with 3rd party sentiments. Even tho I have a gaming PC, I was hoping for more 3rd party ports. Why? My first experience with GFWL. Enough to push anyone away from some PC games.
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Member
(09-08-2012, 03:36 PM)
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#6168
thx Gafers I will wait and see how black Faraday will turn out
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(09-08-2012, 03:37 PM)
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#6169
I'm hoping to regain a lot of that love with WiiU using a more traditional controller. |
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(09-08-2012, 03:56 PM)
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#6170
To add to your point; I look at Last Of Us and as good as it looks, it doesn't strike me as a technical marvel(I'm sure it is in some ways). The game shines more through it's art, level design and attention to detail in ways that games like Metroid Prime did back in the day. What Naughty Dog has achieved with the AI; the way the characters/enemies react to their environment or a situation is just astounding and goes beyond just simply throwing FLOPs at the equation. This goes back to your point. This game, as least thus far, is the result of an extremely devoted effort from guys dedicated to their craft. More of this, please! |
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 04:15 PM)
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#6171
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Member
(09-08-2012, 04:25 PM)
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#6172
While I love Nintendo IP's, they are losing the battle of creating new ones that appeal to mainstream gamers. Reviving old ones like Kid Icarus is great, how about Ice Climbers and new ones? The Wii branded games are all new but their audience wasn't targeting gaming enthusiast like sony's new IP's are. I like both and will most likely buy a Wii U and PS4 slim (the slim models are always better looking and cheaper :p) |
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(09-08-2012, 04:37 PM)
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#6173
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Member
(09-08-2012, 04:37 PM)
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#6174
Ah yeah, the bald space marine, the result of not wanting to invest time or effort into rendering hair, but rather have more explosions and more shiny surfaces. I understand when people are expecting the top teams to really go to town with better hardware, but honestly I expect most games to just implement all these new bells and whistles with no regard to how gameplay might be affected by it, and I for one am not looking forward to more uncreative monotony but now with more scene complexity, and sparks and physics calculations that do nothing except looking good. One does not have to be a cynic to see that the gaming industry is at a creative standstill, and it's certainly not because the outdated hardware. But when you have PR tell you that they need better hardware for innovation then it's plain clear that by innovation they mean graphics. Ah yeah, but what about immersion? Well immersion to me is just the same hollow PR tag like "visceral" "epic" "value" "mature" "social" "service" etc. |
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(09-08-2012, 04:38 PM)
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#6175
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/...t-in-september I've read on this forum (NeoGAF) that media check-in starts an hour before that. Below is a link to a countdown. You can click "Times worldwide" on the bar below the countdown to see a page of the corresponding times around the world. http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown...endo+NYC&csz=1 |
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To hell with Bono,
here's a worthy cause. (09-08-2012, 04:40 PM)
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#6176
this will be over soon
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Will Suck Cock While GDGF Watches
(09-08-2012, 04:41 PM)
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#6177
For most issues of creative bankruptcy I put the blame squarely on publishers, not the developers/creative minds working on a project. The people only interested in ballooning revenue and appeasing shareholders are the ones focus testing projects into the ground and forcing studios to play it safe.
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 04:50 PM)
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#6178
This, combined with the Metroid Blast news, is going to keep hype levels up until the 13th when the hype levels will be train worthy until launch. |
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Member
(09-08-2012, 04:56 PM)
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#6179
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:02 PM)
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#6180
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XP-39Cē
(09-08-2012, 05:05 PM)
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#6181
What about Darksiders 2, Black Ops 2, Assassins Creed 3 and Aliens Colonial Marines?
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:16 PM)
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#6182
I donīt know how long it took to get a kit to all devs but it propably took them until after E3 11. Not every dev gets an early kit either and final or at least mass producable kits were released weeks before E3 12. AC3 is just barely making it to launch btw... Wich is also the reason Ubisoft themselves gave why the version "just" looks identical to xbox360/PS3 |
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Will Suck Cock While GDGF Watches
(09-08-2012, 05:20 PM)
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#6183
Something else I wanted to note, from awhile ago when that French retailer claimed the Wii U would retail at 349, is that would be the equivilent of ~AU$450 ($429 technically, but round up because local prices are a nightmare).
AU$450 would be pretty crazy in my opinion, even if bundled with goodies. It's simply too high, regardless of being marketed as a 'next generation console' or whatever. A 4GB Xbox 360 can be picked up for half that price. |
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 05:23 PM)
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#6184
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:24 PM)
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#6185
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:24 PM)
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#6186
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:26 PM)
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#6187
I doubt West and Zampella were particularly concerned that they would be making Call of Duty forever, they just wanted to be making the most money from making Call of Duty forever. |
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 05:26 PM)
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#6188
IF the Wii U does manage to launch at $249 with a Wii U Pad included a full two years before the competitors. It will succeed among casual gamers atleast. More so, they can get the price below $199 before the 720 or PS4 launch.
Anything higher than $249 and I don't see it appealing to the same casuals that the Wii appealed to. |
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Will Suck Cock While GDGF Watches
(09-08-2012, 05:27 PM)
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#6189
Expensive SKU I could stomach. There definitely needs to be vanilla options lower. AU$450 is market suicide.
Well I didn't say all developers :P. You just hear it all the time, how projects are turned down, changed or scaled back to suit the suits. Then, low and behold, the more interesting, creative stuff comes from indy devs and studios with stronger control over their projects. |
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:31 PM)
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#6190
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:32 PM)
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#6191
Here we go:
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Will Suck Cock While GDGF Watches
(09-08-2012, 05:39 PM)
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#6192
You can score a vanilla 360 4GB for $239, and the 250GB with both Halo: Reach and Fable 3 for $398. The PS3 did indeed retail for ~AU$1000 when it came out, and as expected tanked like fuck. A 160GB PS3 now costs ~$350, and a hundred or so more for the 320GB (that nobody with common sense buys). Christmas usually brings about pretty good deals too. |
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(09-08-2012, 05:41 PM)
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#6193
Ubisoft IMO would be the one of the few to actually use the additional power. Not saying they would though ;) |
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:46 PM)
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#6194
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 05:52 PM)
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#6195
And if there's anything non-tech important when buying the console as a gamer, being on the top of the list ... The big question is wether the colors will be SKU-exclusive.
That's quite a bit more worrying to me than price/release date. And if they are, it'll may force many of the core gamers and others too to choose the most expensive SKU. Not saying it's a requirement, if there's black in existance then I'm definitely not going to get a white one even if it's a mistake (if i buy throuh local etailer) I would send it back to get me the right color. I don't like the smell either, as an informed customer I never like such irrelevant things to influence money spent, but somehow you just can't help your self in some situations, color is such irrelevant from all other views, but black feels more non-childish especially when you get other non-gamer people in the house or whatever situation, not to say this is 100%, I am experienced of doing a good job to hide stuff good enough, not just physically. I'm definitely not the kind of guy who talks about games in public (real-life, except if it's a old friend who always been a gamer), (if there wouldn't have been a black fine, I'm won't run with a controller in my hand down the street or whatever) pretty much nobody does around here, can't say the same for usa, somehow I have a strong feeling that many people there when you listen them you know on the first fly if he's a gamer or not.
Last edited by Stewox; 09-08-2012 at 06:07 PM.
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XP-39Cē
(09-08-2012, 05:53 PM)
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#6196
Last edited by test_account; 09-08-2012 at 06:17 PM.
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Member
(09-08-2012, 05:58 PM)
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#6197
I personally think that $300 sounds about right. According to Google that is Ģ187 at the moment which probably means we'd get it for between Ģ200-250. I've love the former, but expect closer the latter. Launching at Ģ199, and staying at that for many, many years, without the need of a price cut would be incredible. Won't happen though.
I couldn't really say for Australia due to lack of knowledge of how the pricing and economy works. |
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(09-08-2012, 06:09 PM)
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#6198
Cross-posting from the GameInformer thread:
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Remade mini Game&Watch collection with off-TV play? A few Yoshi Touch & Go type levels? Hungry Hungry Bulborbs? |
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Banned
(09-08-2012, 06:09 PM)
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#6199
You will all pay MOAR if black color is default on the most expensive (hardcore) SKU.
MUHUHAHAHA dooom doom dooomed ![]() You just won't be able to control the temptation. Admit it! 4 Days many, about time to make some GIFs. EDIT: ----------------------------------------------- ..... edit after quite some time Haha i was right - colors are SKU exclusive hah!
Last edited by Stewox; 10-08-2012 at 06:28 PM.
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coaches in the WNBA
(09-08-2012, 06:11 PM)
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#6200
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