[SmokyDave]

I doubt you have more apps than I do and I still switched. Them again, I've always kept tabs on other platforms beside apple's so I also have lots of apps elsewhere. Keep an iPod touch if you must but the apple synergy is overrated.

I bet I do. My library is measured in terabytes and my games alone number in the thousands*. The synergy is underrated as far as I'm concerned. I've used plenty of other systems and none have been so damned slick and convenient.

*Actually, that's bollocks. I have thousands of apps and more than a thousand are games, but not thousands of games. You get the idea though, BIG library.

In the same boat, but I don't need to have my iTunes media in my pocket all day. I don't want to watch tv shows or movies on a tiny screen, so I keep my iPad in my bag for that. I buy most of my music from Amazon, so that's not an issue either.

Podcasts*, audiobooks*, music*, photostreams, cloud syncing. All stuff I want on my phone. I could probably cobble something similar together using 15 different programs but it simply wouldn't be as simple, convenient or user-friendly. My setup is just seamless and it always works.

*As in, content taken from my centralised media server.

Can we do this over PM though, if we must? This is a Nokia topic so I'm probably on extremely thin ice!

[thirty]

what's this about the Phi being waterproof?

[thirty]

event will be streamed here. 7am pacific time

http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/webcast/live/

[Greyface]

what's this about the Phi being waterproof?

Everybody knows that the P in PHI stands for proof. And in esperanto Phi means water. Combine those hints together and we're 99% sure

[Troll]

Everybody knows that the P in PHI stands for proof. And in esperanto Phi means water. Combine those hints together and we're 99% sure

Meh. I suppose that the Phi would be pretty useful in Louisiana right now, but not really something I care for.

[Subitai]

Here goes nothin'. I've put off buying a new phone for 7 or 8 months, hoping to see a flagship WP8 Verizon phone. I hope I'm not disappointed.

Same here. I'll understand though if AT&T gets something a little better.

[Damon Bennet]

phi stands for a blue robot assistant that pops up everytime you receive a textmessage and explains what a text message is

[mescalineeyes]

phi stands for a blue robot assistant that pops up everytime you receive a textmessage and explains what a text message is

Actually it stands for a robotic paperclip that wants to help you compose a text each time you start typing.

KNOCK KNOCK

[venne]

I would really like to see a Nokia Tablet.

I would, too.

I don't want a phone anymore, I want a portable internet device. I rarely use voice, so screen size and utility are much more important to me than how it looks up against my face or whether it will fit in someone's skinny jeans. I don't want a 10" tablet though, but something much more mobile. Even the rumored 8" iPad seems like it would be too bulky because of its aspect ratio.

The Note 2 looks really compelling to me at the moment. I am by no means a fan of android and even looking at the videos of the device in action makes me shudder, but I absolutely love the pen and form factor. Right now I am thinking that I would be willing to slog through that mess of an interface for those qualities. I have been telling my wife for some months that I would love a tablet roughly the size of a Kindle with pen input and the Note 2 is the closest manifestation of that I have seen.

If Nokia doesn't bring out a smaller tablet (I am not expecting one at this event), they better bring it strong with the camera if I am going to go with a Phi over a Note 2 this fall.

[polyh3dron]

So is the beta test really over this time?

[buhdeh]

I doubt you have more apps than I do and I still switched. Them again, I've always kept tabs on other platforms beside apple's so I also have lots of apps elsewhere. Keep an iPod touch if you must but the apple synergy is overrated.

Did you switch to Windows Phone?

Kind of sad they got rid of the blank right side. WP7 looked really good and now the home screen looks like a huge mess of randomly sized squares.

[rozay]

So is the beta test really over this time?

hahaha easily one of the more unfortunate ad campaigns I've seen recently

[Cuteness Overload]

hahaha easily one of the more unfortunate ad campaigns I've seen recently

To be honest, thouh, I'm perfectly happy with my Lumia 900, if only because it does as advertised and is freaking reliable. I can't say the same with Android devices...

September 5 feels like forever, man. And with there not being any classes for me until exam week, well...

[dLMN8R]

I actually like the design of the Altiv S. Nokia will probably do better, but next to my sad plastic piece of first-generation Samsung Focus, anything looks amazing.

[venne]

Kind of sad they got rid of the blank right side. WP7 looked really good and now the home screen looks like a huge mess of randomly sized squares.

Only as randomly sized as desired by the end user. You can choose from three different sizes for each tile.

I think it makes more sense to have smaller tiles toward the bottom and larger tiles toward the top for easier one handed operation, but if people want to go all Mondrian on their phone, have at it.

[kharma45]

Some more new Windows Phone news

Windows Phone 8 to include Kid's Corner, a separate Start screen for parental control

http://mobile.theverge.com/2012/8/30...ls-screenshots

Microsoft's Windows Phone 8 operating system will include a Kid's Corner option that provides a unique parental control feature to the company's mobile handsets. Kid's Corner will be a separate Start screen environment designed for children to access apps, videos, games, and music that is shared by a parent. Windows Phone owners will be able to setup a Start screen with the specially controlled apps on, and a child will access the feature by swiping from the left on the lock screen.

[EightBitNate]

event will be streamed here. 7am pacific time http://www.nokia.com/global/about-nokia/webcast/live/

Added to OP.

Just curious, but does anyone know how "hackable" Windows RT seems to be? Has there been any noise on that?

[Windu]

Added to OP. Just curious, but does anyone how "hackable" Windows RT seems to be? Has there been any noise on that?

no one has had access to Windows RT, so who knows. I assume there will be a hacking scene just like iOS though.

[Raistlin]

It will be interesting to see what Nokia has on offer.



I've been looking to shed some costs, so with that in mind I'm seriously considering a move to T-Mobile to get the Samsung ATIV.

If Nokia shows something really great though, I'll probably stick around on AT&T. Needs to be more than just a pretty face though. Something like PureView or other tech differentiation.

Yeah, I quoted the wrong person ;) Does anyone know if the Ativa S will suffer from a Pentile Display? I don't think I can buy another one in good conscience...

It's Pentile, though at 720p ... I question how obvious it would be.

[SCHUEY F1]

Nokia Arrow render?

[kharma45]

No doubt Nokia are gonna make me regret just buying an HTC One X next week.

Still, got it for a crackin' price and I can eBay it if I feel like changing and not loose much money if any.

[derFeef]

Hmm, looks kinda similar, but the back is different.

[Anton Sugar]

Honestly, not liking how fully rounded it is. I liked the hard edges at the top and bottom of the Lumia 800/900.

[derFeef]

Honestly, not liking how fully rounded it is. I liked the hard edges at the top and bottom of the Lumia 800/900.

Yup!

[Magni]

Nokia Arrow render? [IMG]http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/MNBnokia_arrow.png[IMG]

Just from that one supposed render, I'll say the current Lumias are better. Hope the real deal blows me way.

[EightBitNate]

I'm not sure what to think of that. Maybe if it weren't a crappy render that looks like it's front the early 2000s, I'd have a better idea.

I'll just this, all phones look crappy until we seen some press shots.

[GCX]

I find it baffling why Nokia is pretty much the only company that offers phones that aren't black, white or gray.

[Milchjon]

Nokia Arrow render?

Those look like something a teen would design the first time he got his hands on a 3D modeling software.

[SCHUEY F1]

Rogers better have more than one colour for the Lumia's at launch this time.

[Souldriver]

I find it baffling why Nokia is pretty much the only company that offers phones that aren't black, white or gray.

Indeed, it's quite peculiar.

But I like that Nokia does it, and they should exploit it as one of their identifying characteristics, as long as it lasts.

[venne]

I find it baffling why Nokia is pretty much the only company that offers phones that aren't black, white or gray.

Patents.

[Snaku]

Honestly, not liking how fully rounded it is. I liked the hard edges at the top and bottom of the Lumia 800/900.

Arrow is Nokia's mid-range offering. The Phi will more closely resemble the Lumia 800/900.

[rozay]

To be honest, thouh, I'm perfectly happy with my Lumia 900, if only because it does as advertised and is freaking reliable. I can't say the same with Android devices... September 5 feels like forever, man. And with there not being any classes for me until exam week, well...

0 reboots on my nexus one or galaxy nexus, can't say the same for lumia owners with motherboard issues...

I'll give Nokia a pass on the 800 and 900 because they were manufactured by Compal, I would hope this generation of phones isn't.

[9thwonder]

1. It's 2012. IE is not that terrible anymore. Time to get over it. Either way, no 3rd party browsers. 2. Zune is not shitty, but yes, mass storage is possible, afaik. 3. Developers can use whatever UIs they want. You're not forced to use Metro. 4. Get an Android phone. Worst decision I've ever made.

Lol wat?

1. Android 1.5 browser got higher than wp7 internet browser on the HTML 5 test lolololololol(you're wrong about it not being terrible)
2.Any and every syncing software is shit. Smartphones are supposed to be a computer. I shouldn't be restricted to a shitty syncin software
3. USB storage is not possible afiak. Yiy have to use zune
4.lolololol

[9thwonder]

It isn't that bad, is it?

No it isn't.
Try a one x,galaxy s3,galaxy nexus

IE is good on WP7. Syncing with Zune will be history, as the software is history soon? The best Apps use the Metro style (pages, etc.), it's the best part of the OS imho.

You obviously haven't used dolphin/chrome/Firefox/opera mobile and even stock ics browser on Android. Android 1.5 got a higher score than wp7 browser. I also really hope zune is history.



Edit:loolol at Nokia talking shit. Isn't Samsung about pass them up as the #1 phone manufacturer? Didn't the s3 sell 10 million in like a month? I wonder how much this new lumina will sell......

[Totakeke]

Poor guy.

[Rand0m TAG]

Can't wait for Nokia. Windows is really hyping me up. Surface or Nokia tablet. For sure gonna flip from android to nokia.

[Black-Box]

I hope they have one phone that isn't the standard rectangle design.

[f0lken]

Lol wat? 1. Android 1.5 browser got higher than wp7 internet browser on the HTML 5 test lolololololol(you're wrong about it not being terrible) 2.Any and every syncing software is shit. Smartphones are supposed to be a computer. I shouldn't be restricted to a shitty syncin software 3. USB storage is not possible afiak. Yiy have to use zune 4.lolololol

But you didn't ask about the current WP7, WP8 solves your problems and it allows native development like you asked in other thread

[venne]

Poor guy.

Phone warz are serious business.

If we don't defend the honor of multi-billion dollar corporations, who will?

[EightBitNate]

Lol wat? 1. Android 1.5 browser got higher than wp7 internet browser on the HTML 5 test lolololololol(you're wrong about it not being terrible) 2.Any and every syncing software is shit. Smartphones are supposed to be a computer. I shouldn't be restricted to a shitty syncin software 3. USB storage is not possible afiak. Yiy have to use zune 4.lolololol

1. Where? That sounds like utter bullshit. All I read were stories of how it was better than iOS and Android HTML5 (I found a source but can't currently post it)
2. and 3. Windows Phone 8. There are limited details about Windows Phone 8, but don't be so quick to judge before you hear anything.

Also, why are you turning this Nokia Event based thread into "lol windows fone sucks xD"

[JaggedSac]

Didn't you guys see the "don't feed the trolls sign"?

[Troll]

Didn't you guys see the "don't feed the trolls sign"?

.... but I'm hungry.

[ShowDog]

No doubt Nokia are gonna make me regret just buying an HTC One X next week. Still, got it for a crackin' price and I can eBay it if I feel like changing and not loose much money if any.

I'm with you. Probably gonna wait for an HTC One X cyanogenmod jelly bean build to try before I jump to WP8. I'm jealous of my wife's Lumia 900, although I wouldnt want one myself due to a few annoyances I hope are worked out in WP8

[derFeef]

I think his L and O keys are stuck. Someone help him because it makes his posts look stupid.

No it isn't. Try a one x,galaxy s3,galaxy nexus You obviously haven't used dolphin/chrome/Firefox/opera mobile and even stock ics browser on Android. Android 1.5 got a higher score than wp7 browser. I also really hope zune is history.

I have no desire to, and it would not make IE on WP "more shitty" anyway, since it's good and fast, what's with the attitude man?

[Cuteness Overload]

I think his L and O keys are stuck. Someone help him because it makes his posts look stupid. I have no desire to, and it would not make IE on WP "more shitty" anyway, since it's good and fast, what's with the attitude man?

One thing I do know is that Opera Mobile, Android Browser and Google Chrome will thrash on desktop pages and/or with more than 4 tabs open given the same hardware as a Windows Phone while IE9 just cruises along. Benchmarks are not end-all - despite almost always lagging behind in synthetic benchmarks, I've noticed that my phone handles pages just as well as new, high-end Android phones. (Really, the most important part is how smoothly the browser handles zooming in and out, as well as scrolling, which usually means that the GPU plays a big part in. I've never gotten 60 FPS scrolling on my old phone.)

[mescalineeyes]

No amount of specs and benchmark scores will ever make Android nice to use.

[maeh2k]

@tomwarren: Nokia Lumia 920 with Pureview revealed, includes 4.5-inch display http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/31/32...-pictures-leak

@tomwarren: The Lumia 820! http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/31/32...ws-phone-leaks

I like it.

[infinityBCRT]

Nokia Arrow render?

Hmm, looks kinda similar, but the back is different.

The Verge: Nokia Lumia 920 - 4.5" with pureview


The Verge: Nokia Lumia 820 - 4.3"

[mescalineeyes]

920 looks great.
820 looks awful.