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chickdigger802 · (09-04-2012, 06:47 AM)

Originally Posted by JAVK:

Heres an example from the iphonelist.txt file:

damn.

I kinda wanna look, but I kinda don't. Not like i can do anything about it.

lexi · (09-04-2012, 06:47 AM)

Originally Posted by Fiction:

it only takes one bad apple...

Well done.

Fiction · (09-04-2012, 06:48 AM)

Originally Posted by lexi:

Well done.

It just called to me.

Wario64 · (09-04-2012, 06:50 AM)

I want to see if my UDID is listed too, but looks like you have to decrypt it? Too lazy

Alphahawk · (09-04-2012, 06:51 AM)

So we should change our Apple ID?

I'm still not really sure what happened?

Fiction · (09-04-2012, 06:52 AM)

I am assuming the only reason they released any information at all was to prove the story right?

Diablos · (09-04-2012, 06:55 AM)

I'm not an advocate for hacking the FBI, but why the fuck did they have this info in the first place?

They weren't even smart enough to encrypt it? It was on the desktop? Really? I'm not sure if it's a case of being inept or perhaps just ignorant, but either way this should scare the shit out of anyone that owns a computer, phone, game console, you name it.

Phaethon0017 · (09-04-2012, 06:56 AM)

What are the chances that the FBI is using Apple as the world's largest listening post?

Gustav · (09-04-2012, 06:57 AM)

Originally Posted by Alphahawk:

So we should change our Apple ID?

I'm still not really sure what happened?

You shouldn't, don't worry.

Diablos · (09-04-2012, 06:57 AM)

I doubt this would just stop with Apple devices.

Kazerei · (09-04-2012, 07:03 AM)

I have the file decrypted. PM me if you wanna know if your UDID is on the list.

2 Slice Toaster · (09-04-2012, 07:04 AM)

Originally Posted by Fiction:

I am assuming the only reason they released any information at all was to prove the story right?

But what does it prove? I asked on the previous page how they show that the datafile originated from the source they claim it does. I'm not saying its not true, but just because they release a file full of Apple user data and claim its from the FBI, I'm not sure how that proves they got it from the FBI.

lexi · (09-04-2012, 07:05 AM)

Originally Posted by Kazerei:

I have the file decrypted. PM me if you wanna know if your UDID is on the list.

Out of curiosity:

57361bfb7eda2d2405fc929a64db2b6b30e54047

Kazerei · 07:08 AM

Originally Posted by lexi:

Out of curiosity:

.

Nope, not on the list

Fiction · (09-04-2012, 07:07 AM)

Originally Posted by 2 Slice Toaster:

But what does it prove? I asked on the previous page how they show that the datafile originated from the source they claim it does. I'm not saying its not true, but just because they release a file full of Apple user data and claim its from the FBI, I'm not sure how that proves they got it from the FBI.

Well, I would say it goes a long way to prove it if those IDs are correct. I'm having trouble thinking of anyone else that would have a list of even just a million devices (aside from Apple, obviously) Also, it would be proof for the FBI, if in fact they have such a file.

Blastoise · (09-04-2012, 07:08 AM)

I wouldn't post my UDID in public. Just PM the person if you trust them, or download the file yourself. Its not too hard.

Diablos · (09-04-2012, 07:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Kazerei:

Nope, not on the list

Well it might as well be now :lol

Seriously people, don't post your shit in here. Derp.

lexi · (09-04-2012, 07:09 AM)

Originally Posted by Blastoise:

I wouldn't post my UDID in public. Just PM the person if you trust them, or download the file yourself. Its not too hard.

Quote:

Seriously people, don't post your shit in here, derp

It's less useful than an email address, or even my Steam ID, which I freely share here.

ThisWreckage · (09-04-2012, 07:10 AM)

That's not hacking, that's giving the keys away to the kingdom.

hateradio · (09-04-2012, 07:15 AM)

How did they even get them - the FBI, I mean.

Blastoise · (09-04-2012, 07:17 AM)

Originally Posted by hateradio:

How did they even get them - the FBI, I mean.

Thats the scary part. What is this agent doing with 12 million IDs on his laptop. Which is in an unencrypted csv file?!

2real4tv · (09-04-2012, 07:19 AM)

Insert Batman DK gif?

ektoll · (09-04-2012, 07:20 AM)

Well, their pastebin was quite interesting to read, with some funny remarks and some nice citations; bonus points for opening the wall of text with a Salman Rushdie quote.

Mr Swine · (09-04-2012, 07:26 AM)

Is this really bad and is it worldwide?

diamount · (09-04-2012, 07:27 AM)

Originally Posted by quadriplegicjon:

What does this mean, in english?

Make false warranty claims? Not sure exactly.

Forever · (09-04-2012, 07:28 AM)

Originally Posted by JAVK:

Heres an example from the iphonelist.txt file:

Shieit I have an iPod Touch.

Tunesmith · (09-04-2012, 07:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Kazerei:

I have the file decrypted. PM me if you wanna know if your UDID is on the list.

PMing you 5 UDIDs to check if you don't mind. :)

rozay · (09-04-2012, 07:33 AM)

Originally Posted by quadriplegicjon:

What does this mean, in english?

the FBI cares about everything you do with your phone

Nevasleep · (09-04-2012, 07:40 AM)

Originally Posted by lexi:

Out of curiosity:

57361bfb7eda2d2405fc929a64db2b6b30e54047

So if the full version of the file gets released then we might know who you are :)

Quote:

we trimmed out other personal data as, full names, cell numbers, addresses,
zipcodes, etc.

(Although not all devices have full info.)

Jesse- · (09-04-2012, 07:43 AM)

So what action would one need to undertake if their UDID are listed in this file?

Nevasleep · (09-04-2012, 07:44 AM)

Originally Posted by diamount:

Make false warranty claims? Not sure exactly.

Nope, they aren't serial numbers.

zerotol · (09-04-2012, 07:44 AM)

You guys in the iOS thread still using freemyapps? Lol!

Wario64 · (09-04-2012, 07:47 AM)

Originally Posted by zerotol:

You guys in the iOS thread still using freemyapps? Lol!

I don't understand what that has to do with anything? I certainly didn't sign up to have my UDID taken from hackers in some FBI laptop

Tunesmith · (09-04-2012, 07:49 AM)

Originally Posted by zerotol:

You guys in the iOS thread still using freemyapps? Lol!

I hope you don't use email anymore. lol!

That's pretty much the same anology here.

zerotol · (09-04-2012, 07:50 AM)

Originally Posted by Wario64:

I don't understand what that has to do with anything? I certainly didn't sign up to have my UDID taken from hackers in some FBI laptop

Could be absolutely nothing Wario. I was warned about this from from a few people weeks ago, that's all.

Mecha_Infantry · (09-04-2012, 07:50 AM)

Originally Posted by ektoll:

Well, their pastebin was quite interesting to read, with some funny remarks and some nice citations; bonus points for opening the wall of text with a Salman Rushdie quote.

Yeah it was a good read. Informed me of a lot of stuff I didn't know, like Jack Henry Abbot, Indians and Manhattan and some killed hackers

fritolay · (09-04-2012, 07:52 AM)

If you were a government of another country, or citizen, how would you feel about Apple or Microsoft products being from the US? Would you trust them?

MarkMclovin · (09-04-2012, 07:53 AM)

So what are the implications of this? An answer without hyperbowl would be great.

Wario64 · (09-04-2012, 07:58 AM)

Originally Posted by MarkMclovin:

So what are the implications of this? An answer without hyperbowl would be great.

I don't think anyone really knows, but you probably want to read what is a UDID

http://www.cultofmac.com/160248/what...-them-feature/

railGUN · (09-04-2012, 08:02 AM)

Originally Posted by zerotol:

Could be absolutely nothing Wario. I was warned about this from from a few people weeks ago, that's all.

Warned about what?

Wario64 · (09-04-2012, 08:03 AM)

Originally Posted by railGUN:

Warned about what?

Saving 99 cents

dejay · (09-04-2012, 08:07 AM)

Originally Posted by lexi:

For the FBI, nothing. For the people revealing how fucked up the FBI's security is, maybe 30 years in prison.

Bradley Manning says hi.

Timedog · (09-04-2012, 10:26 AM)

Does the FBI extort the info from Apple, or does Apple actually profit from giving the info?

Originally Posted by Diablos:

I doubt this would just stop with Apple devices.

Would a bunch of phone companies not based in the US give the FBI a bunch of info like that?

Number45 · (09-04-2012, 10:32 AM)

From that link Wario posted, it's possible that it's old information as it sounds like selling UDID information was something that happened frequently until fairly recently.

Salvor.Hardin · (09-04-2012, 10:42 AM)

Originally Posted by Timedog:

Does the FBI extort the info from Apple, or does Apple actually profit from giving the info?

Gotta win those patent cases somehow.

Jason Raize '75 - '04 · (09-04-2012, 10:50 AM)

Use this website to check if yours is on there

http://dazzlepod.com/apple/

Polari · (09-04-2012, 10:59 AM)

I presume these are only US devices... right? That the FBI has this information must be a bit concerning for a few governments around the world.

Rewrite · (09-04-2012, 11:01 AM)

Holy shit...

Xater · (09-04-2012, 11:06 AM)

Originally Posted by Polari:

I presume these are only US devices... right? That the FBI has this information must be a bit concerning for a few governments around the world.

That's what I wanted to ask as well. This should just be US devices right?

MarkMclovin · (09-04-2012, 11:31 AM)

Originally Posted by Wario64:

I don't think anyone really knows, but you probably want to read what is a UDID

http://www.cultofmac.com/160248/what...-them-feature/

Mother of God.