[Nibel]

! if old

(Yes, I know that there is a big MGS:GZ thread, but most people don't click the thread anymore because of the huge varied discussions - and also, new news = new thread)

In last week's Metal Gear Solid Ground Zeroes footage, there was apparently some concern amongst fans about Snake's age. Hideo Kojima responded to the concerns via Twitter today. This is the controversial scene: Wrote Kojima, there have been many Tweets stating that with the white hair, Snake appears to be really old in this sequence. It turns that that this is just an illusion. As Kojima explained, the hair appears white because of the back lighting effect.

Source

Kojima's Tweet

This would make sense since the boy in the trailer seems to be Chico and he didn't get that much older either, righty?

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Update #1

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[PuppetSlave]

Maybe he dyes.

[FantasticMrFoxdie]

Wat an illusion.

[Kyon]

Maybe he dyes.

Fox Dyes? :p

[Horse Armour]

This is set shortly after Peace Walker, wouldn't make sense if his hair greyed that quickly.

[Willypiggy]

Was wondering why Chico looked so young get big boss looked so old. At least that's one of the many questions answered, what are the chances we can get Kojima to tell us who the burnt man is?

[blackseedboy]

Wat an illusion.

is that Galvez ?



:D

[Charoncaori]

Fox Dyes? :p

OOOOOOOOOH
Wow.

[Reiko]

Was wondering why Chico looked so young get big boss looked so old. At least that's one of the many questions answered, what are the chances we can get Kojima to tell us who the burnt man is?

[Aguirre]

OOOOOOOOOH Wow.

deep.

i could tell he was young due to the hue and coloring of the pixels that represent his hair.

[Raonak]

:(

I wanted to play as Old Boss

[kaysee]

im calling it, ground zeroes is just a short prologue chapter before MGS 5 begins. both are one and the same. never forget, kojima gave us fake ending credits in MGS 4, this time it'll be right at the start.

maybe, thats why he was saying that after the next game he might have to leave the industry, all the boxes are promo material will have MGS: GZ as the title and 30 mins into the game.... Viola!!! MGS 5.


No number in the title
lower sales than expected
konami disappointed
???
Loss (kojima leaves)

[DieH@rd]

Lighting made him old.

[Willypiggy]

Considering how he died in 3 I highly doubt that. I would say he sounded different but I've never played the Japanese MGS3 so don't have a clue. Then and again, maybe it his him and he somehow survived. Although I don't see how he would fit into the grand scheme of things.

[Reiko]

im calling it, ground zeroes is just a short prologue chapter before MGS 5 begins. both are one and the same. never forget, kojima gave us fake ending credits in MGS 4, this time it'll be right at the start. maybe, thats why he was saying that after the next game he might have to leave the industry, all the boxes are promo material will have MGS: GZ as the title and 30 mins into the game.... Viola!!! MGS 5. No number in the title lower sales than expected konami disappointed ??? Loss (kojima leaves)

Kojima had BIG BALLS to do what he did with MGS2. I don't think he has another set to do it again. See MGS4 backlash...

[TTP]

They better fix their lighting engine.

[Ratrat]

ブランクがあると思えない
At least suggests a notable gap between this and Peace Walker.

[UnblessedSoul]

I thought everyone already knew that? You could see his brown hair in dark areas anyway

[Drkirby]

Kojima had BIG BALLS to do what he did with MGS2. I don't think he has another set to do it again. See MGS4 backlash...

Its Kojima though, you can't really predict what he will do.

Plus, this can't be MGS5, Kojima is clearly still holding out for Sakurai to make that.

[Graphics Horse]

I thought everyone already knew that? You could see his brown hair in dark areas anyway

Hahaha, you must have missed the multiple Snakes/ split timeline lunacy in the other thread.

[Anteater]

Is this Raiden rendered in Fox engine?

[StuBurns]

Hahaha, you must have missed the multiple Snakes/ split timeline lunacy in the other thread.

Cat hair is clear, it's the skin that's coloured, no?

[Robot Pants]

ok.

[deim0s]

Lighting made him old.

I'm getting a Liam Neeson vibe.

[Carbonox_Ratchet]

I thought everyone already knew that? You could see his brown hair in dark areas anyway

Yup. CONSPIRACIES ALL UP IN DAT JOINT.

[Meatvillain]

Disappointed that that's all there is to it and that it isn't Kojima doing something crazy. Then again this is the dude who successfully hid Raiden from us all, so you know. MAYBE SOMETHING CRAZY IS GOING ON.

OPTICAL CAMO HAIR OMG.

[Nibel]

Or maybe Snake uses Devil Trigger just like Dante from DmC

[Meatvillain]

Or maybe Snake uses Devil Trigger just like Dante from DmC

Now I'm imagining the shitstorm if it was announced Ninja Theory were making an MGS game.

[Graphics Horse]

Is this Raiden rendered in Fox engine?

It's a kitten.

Cat hair is clear, it's the skin that's coloured, no?

Not from the one I had which used to moult hair everywhere, no.

[Nouzka]

Now I'm imagining the shitstorm if it was announced Ninja Theory were making an MGS game.

Please don't even joke about that.

I thought it was obvious that lightning made his hair look grey.

[Reiko]

I want to see how The Boss would look with these graphics!

DO EET Kojima!

[eso76]

They better fix their lighting engine.

no, some of you guys better take a good look at reality.

That's exactly what brown hair would look like in the dark, with little or no ambient light, when only lit/backlit by a cold, harsh light source (a lightning in this case) since hair reflects lights.

In fact this is the ONLY engine i've seen doing hair shaders realistically.

(btw, glad my screengrabs helped settle the discussion, it's good to have confirmation by Kojima himself)

[Femmeworth]

Bah, he should just let us pick Big Boss' hair color.

[Reiko]

Now I'm imagining the shitstorm if it was announced Ninja Theory were making an MGS game.

Don't play. lol


EDIT: Why does that gun look like a...

[dan2026]

There goes my hope of Fighting Solid Snake in Outer Heaven.

[BrokenEchelon]

Lighting made him old.

Yeah. I thought this was obvious to everyone. I mean the game takes place a few years after Peace Walker.

There goes my hope of Fighting Solid Snake in Outer Heaven.

MGS5: Sins of the Father

PS4/720/PC.

Duh. ;)

[Drkirby]

There goes my hope of Fighting Solid Snake in Outer Heaven.

How would that even work. "Press Circle to fake death!"

[Jawmuncher]

Yeah. I thought this was obvious to everyone. I mean the game takes place a few years after Peace Walker. MGS5: Sins of the Father PS4/720/PC. Duh. ;)

Looks like thats what were leading up to.

[Grinchy]

Doesn't someone say, "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" or something?

[Carbonox_Ratchet]

EDIT: Why does that gun look like a...

Hnngh cannot unsee.

[Necromanti]

Doesn't someone say, "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" or something?

Yep. Then again, he could be in his late 40s or early 50s, so that's still understandable.

[Supreme Stephan]

How would that even work. "Press Circle to fake death!"

In the world of Metal Gear, cutscenes fix every inconsistency.

[Reiko]

Doesn't someone say, "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" or something?

Callback to MGS1... Which was a callback to Ground Zeroes.

[Cjdamon042]

Is it me, or does he look like Ezio from Revelations?

[Roxas]

I have a better question...Why does he look absolutely nothing like Snake?

[Carbonox_Ratchet]

Doesn't someone say, "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" or something?

He should be in his 40's during Ground Zeroes. That's some age to be doing what Big Boss does. The comment makes sense.

[Reiko]

I have a better question...Why does he look absolutely nothing like Snake?

Better graphics...



This is how Big Boss would have looked in MGS3.

[SolidSnakex]

Doesn't someone say, "age hasn't slowed you down one bit" or something?

It's a reference to Campbell saying the same thing to Snake at the beginning of MGS. Just like "Kept you waiting, huh?" is from MGS2.

[Raonak]

I have a better question...Why does he look absolutely nothing like Snake?

Because he's finally starting to look more like Old big boss. compare his closeup to his MGS4 model.

[bud23]

Lighting made him old.

yes,and honestly I don´t care about age.