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Horse Armour
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(09-14-2012, 03:36 PM)
Found on Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comme..._adjusted_for/

hyduK
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Ordered by price.
Popeck
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(09-14-2012, 03:37 PM)
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The original article: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/1...p#.ufiwcpyw_aq
Tagg9
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This was posted yesterday, I think. Still interesting if you haven't seen it before.
shagg_187
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(09-14-2012, 03:38 PM)
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Nintendo consoles are cheap. What a shocker.
BowieZ
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(09-14-2012, 03:38 PM)
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Besides Dreamcast and an Atari, four cheapest are Nintendo's 3D consoles.
BadWolf
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(09-14-2012, 03:38 PM)
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NeoGeo, like a boss.
Drek
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(09-14-2012, 03:40 PM)
Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?
CrunchinJelly
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(09-14-2012, 03:40 PM)
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That's not how inflation works.
Wichu
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(09-14-2012, 03:41 PM)
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This shows just how overpriced the Wii U is. C'mon guys.

Is there a version of this for handhelds too?
TwEE-N-Toast
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(09-14-2012, 03:41 PM)
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Oh NeoGeo, what a monster. I feel that if the modern hardcore gamer was around back in the early 90s there would be complaining that the SNES was not a true Next Gen console in comparison.
AgentP
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(09-14-2012, 03:41 PM)
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So?

Can we have a metric that factors in graphics and CPU power? (not simple to do, just making a point)

The 360 held up for 6+ year a lot better than the WiiU is going to.
GoofsterStud
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(09-14-2012, 03:41 PM)
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Hmm inflation really skews things.

Thank goodness for technological advances and efficiency...
Cornbread78
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Originally Posted by BowieZ

Besides Dreamcast and an Atari, four cheapest are Nintendo's 3D consoles.

As has been said.... Shocker, shocker, shocker; They are cheap fo sho
Darklord
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(09-14-2012, 03:41 PM)
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Holy shit neogeo lol. If that came out in Australia today it would be like $2000!
Horse Armour
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(09-14-2012, 03:41 PM)

Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

Medalion
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(09-14-2012, 03:42 PM)
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It's not about the number
It is the perceived value for said number
Wolves Evolve
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(09-14-2012, 03:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

You would find the history of consoles pretty heartbreaking. Never look up Game and Watch manufacturing history.
injurai
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(09-14-2012, 03:42 PM)

Originally Posted by BadWolf

NeoGeo, like a boss.

with 4 bright buttons and 2 joysticks
AkimbO_Arcana
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(09-14-2012, 03:43 PM)
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GameCube was an amazing deal.
Got it day -1 with Rogue Leader and it was one of the best gaming days of my life.
Canis lupus
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(09-14-2012, 03:43 PM)
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Wich model did they use for the PS3?
djplaeskool
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NeoGeo.
Two decades of giving zero fucks.
clemenx
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(09-14-2012, 03:45 PM)
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Gamecube /bow

People are so dumb that they wouldn't buy something cause it was purple and had a handle? :(
Orayn
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Nice bit of perspective. It'd be interesting to see one of these that compares average game prices in absolute value and relative to their consoles.

Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

In the same place as the actual proof that the Wii U is 7 year old hardware.

Originally Posted by injurai

with 4 bright buttons and 2 joysticks

Cool red cabinet, name that sticks.
SteeloDMZ
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(09-14-2012, 03:46 PM)

Originally Posted by AgentP

So?

Can we have a metric that factors in graphics and CPU power? (not simple to do, just making a point)

The 360 held up for 6+ year a lot better than the WiiU is going to.

What in fucking hell has this anything to do with the purpose of this thread?
KillerMan91
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(09-14-2012, 03:46 PM)
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GameCube and Dreamcast have been incredibly cheap when you consider their hardware.
Lonely1
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Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

Oh, plz tell me what 7 year old hardware is included in the system.
King_Moc
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(09-14-2012, 03:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by AgentP

So?

Can we have a metric that factors in graphics and CPU power? (not simple to do, just making a point)

The 360 held up for 6+ year a lot better than the WiiU is going to.

Can we have a metric that adjusts for tablet controllers and pay to play multiplayer? It's not all about processing power.
grimshawish
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(09-14-2012, 03:47 PM)

Originally Posted by Medalion

It's not about the number
It is the perceived value for said number

Quite so. I still think the WiiU to the 'outside Gaf' world is of perceived value though.
We'll see though I guess.

Heres unadjusted, for those interested:


Adjusted is great but inflation isn't a huge influence on the gaming industry, and prices are only now starting to creep upwards after many years of being kept around the same price.
ElectricBlanketFire
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(09-14-2012, 03:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

Found it:

Zophar
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(09-14-2012, 03:47 PM)
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When framed like that it makes it even more mysterious why the Dreamcast never took off. Beat the PS2 by a year and was a hell of a value.
Lanbeast
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Where's the iPhone on that list.
commish
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(09-14-2012, 03:49 PM)
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I'm astounded, yes astounded, by how many times this f'ing graphic has been posted on NEOGAF since the Wii U price was announced.


Originally Posted by Lanbeast

Where's the iPhone on that list.

Where's the Lynx? BOGUS CHART.
Joe Shlabotnik
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(09-14-2012, 03:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by cjelly

That's not how inflation works.

I feel like this needs to be stickied at the top of every thread where inflation-adjusted charts are posted.

About a million other factors go into the relative value of something over time besides inflation.
Goldmund
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Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

Just google "chart". If someone's cognitive faculties are so limited that they recognize the WiiU as 7 year old hardware, any chart will be perfectly convincing as long as you present it saying: "That's the one!"
Harlock
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(09-14-2012, 03:50 PM)
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People seem to forget that inflation exists. Often speak "the PS2 cost X back in 2000", like 12 years not had a substantial inflation.
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Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

Originally Posted by AgentP

So?

Can we have a metric that factors in graphics and CPU power? (not simple to do, just making a point)

The 360 held up for 6+ year a lot better than the WiiU is going to.

Delicious new generation hate-filled trolling, yum yum yum.
AlexSmash
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426$ for 27 year old hardware.
Really Nintendo?
smh.
grimshawish
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(09-14-2012, 03:51 PM)

Originally Posted by Zophar

When framed like that it makes it even more mysterious why the Dreamcast never took off. Beat the PS2 by a year and was a hell of a value.

Sega's brand looked old. Playstation was one of the most powerful brands in business. Plus, DVD player ofc.

It also wasn't as pretty and Sega gave up rather early.
grimshawish
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(09-14-2012, 03:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Harlock

People seem to forget that inflation exists. Often speak "the PS2 cost X back in 2000", like 12 years not had a substantial inflation.

Its a real squeeze on the games industry, people are really negative to any pricing changes. No matter if their changing over decades.
radioheadrule83
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(09-14-2012, 03:56 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zophar

When framed like that it makes it even more mysterious why the Dreamcast never took off. Beat the PS2 by a year and was a hell of a value.

If they'd had the money to stay in the HW business and to afford the strategies necessary to keep it a going concern it probably would have done alright for itself for a few more years. It was at over 10m units before it was discontinued. The Gamecube and Xbox only sold 11-13 million more over the entire 5/6 years.
Ocaso
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(09-14-2012, 03:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by SteeloDMZ

What in fucking hell has this anything to do with the purpose of this thread?

It's relevant. On a PC, $300 today gets me far, far better hardware than it did 7 years ago. That's the nature of technology. The unadjusted graph is more relevant because it shows how you could sustain a $200-300 launch price in spite of inflation while still increasing processing power significantly.
gibut
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(09-14-2012, 03:57 PM)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._game_consoles

Nintendo sells pretty well too.
Mr. Poolman
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Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

7-year old hardware and keep stealing our games!

Goddammit Nintendo! stop being so evil!




:p
King_Moc
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Originally Posted by radioheadrule83

If they'd had the money to stay in the HW business and to afford the strategies necessary to keep it a going concern it probably would have done alright for itself for a few more years. It was at over 10m units before it was discontinued. The Gamecube and Xbox only sold 11-13 million more over the entire 5/6 years.

Add about 10 million to each of the gc and xbox numbers.
nickcv
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(09-14-2012, 04:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by gibut

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of..._game_consoles

Nintendo sells pretty well too.

according to this the PSVita is in between the Magnavox Odissey 2 and the NGage...
Cipherr
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Originally Posted by Drek

Where's the chart that adjusts for the Wii U being 7 year old hardware?

Originally Posted by AgentP

So?

Can we have a metric that factors in graphics and CPU power? (not simple to do, just making a point)

The 360 held up for 6+ year a lot better than the WiiU is going to.



But still, well played lol.
LuchaShaq
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(09-14-2012, 04:04 PM)
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I don't really care if the wiiU was the cheapest by 50%, it doesn't have a single thing that interests me and will be miles behind other new consoles.

Even at 150$ I wouldn't be interested.
speedline
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(09-14-2012, 04:34 PM)
The difference in that graph is that most of those consoles were cutting edge at the time they released, unlike Wii and Wii U. Also, the more expensive consoles in that graph didn't sell worth a damn anyway, so it's not like the graph makes the Wii U look any better. If the Wii U were current hardware with a large HDD then I'd be just fine with the price. Also, on a unrelated note, Wii U has to be one of the worst names for any device ever.
OmegaZero
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Originally Posted by speedline

Also, on a unrelated note, Wii U has to be one of the worst names for any device ever.

Playstation Vita.

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