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Originally Posted by mr jones: View Post
I don't get it.

This is over some jackass who made a bad youtube video.

Why are they directing their anger towards folks who have absolutely NOTHING to do with the video? I could understand if they were going after the guy who made it. But they're killing innocent people. They're destroying property of folks who again, had nothing to do with it.

*sigh*

Two different worlds. I don't understand it at all. And this is coming from someone who was born into islam.
Because the concept that a film such as this could be produced by some random crazy without the government signing off on it is completely alien to them.
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#52

Originally Posted by Mikey Jr.: View Post
What do these morons think?

Obama made the video or something?
They must believe its the US government who did it... they seriously dont think that 1 american making an anti-islam video is a good enough reason to do all this... right?
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#53

Originally Posted by Mikey Jr.: View Post
What do these morons think?

Obama made the video or something?
If you can't get the shark that bit you, any shark will do.
I really hate this mindset.
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#54

Originally Posted by mr jones: View Post
I don't get it.

This is over some jackass who made a bad youtube video.

Why are they directing their anger towards folks who have absolutely NOTHING to do with the video? I could understand if they were going after the guy who made it. But they're killing innocent people. They're destroying property of folks who again, had nothing to do with it.

*sigh*

Two different worlds. I don't understand it at all. And this is coming from someone who was born into islam.
I think they just honestly want to cause mayhem. Like its in their blood. So they just use this crappy $8 budget movie as an excuse to start causing trouble.
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#55

The idiot made the trailer showing Islam as terror, now he will probably use the Protests footage as the movie
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Quote:
Arab Spring nations don't yet grasp freedom of dissent
http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/14/opinio...html?hpt=hp_t2

good article here
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#57

The Middle East has shown that it simply can't be trusted with Youtube. Smart call on Youtube's part restricting access in the region. I hate how condescendingly racist that sounds, but I'm sick of defending these people.
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#58

Originally Posted by RamzaIsCool: View Post
This isn't about only this movie, this is about anti-western sentiment which is present by a large part of the people there. The movie is just the cataclyst for these protests.

That said, as somebody who is raised in an islamic household, I must say that those protests are the most moronic thing you can do in a situation like this. I am baffled by the sheer stupidity of those people. Not only isn't this movie worth being angry about, I have seen youtube video's with higher production values. But the simple fact that by being this dumb, they are promoting the movie to the whole world. And even worse innocent people are being killed, backward morons doesn't even begin to describe them!
These are the same idiots who raise up a fuss about a woman calling a teddy bear Mohammed and then their actions lead to shit like 10000+ strong facebook campaigns where people will name their teddy bear Mohammed.
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#59

Originally Posted by Rebel Leader: View Post
If you can't get the shark that bit you, any shark will do.
I really hate this mindset.
i don't think this film qualifies as a shark, more like a guppy.

if i was feeling polite, i'd call this a mass failing of people's critical faculties.
Last edited by ghst; 09-14-2012 at 03:59 PM.
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#60

Originally Posted by mr jones: View Post
I don't get it.

This is over some jackass who made a bad youtube video.

Why are they directing their anger towards folks who have absolutely NOTHING to do with the video? I could understand if they were going after the guy who made it. But they're killing innocent people. They're destroying property of folks who again, had nothing to do with it.

*sigh*

Two different worlds. I don't understand it at all. And this is coming from someone who was born into islam.
It's a shame because I know a lot of people of the muslim faith. They are proud, but would also give the shirt off their back to someone in need. It sickens me that a few people take such a beautiful faith and twist it. It's not just the muslim faith. People have twisted the Christian faith for centuries as means to their own ends. And we are the people, people of all faiths, caught in the middle.
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#61

Uneducated, ignorant masses...
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#62

Originally Posted by Deified Data: View Post
The Middle East has shown that it simply can't be trusted with Youtube. Smart call on Youtube's part restricting access in the region. I hate how condescendingly racist that sounds, but I'm sick of defending these people.
Sorry, but apologetic tones don't forgive blatant racism.

Riot mentality is dangerous, it's the same way some bad eggs were able to derail the Occupy movement and get public support on the side of the cops.
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Originally Posted by Vilix: View Post
It's a shame because I know a lot of people of the muslim faith. They are proud, but would also give the shirt off their back to someone in need. It sickens me that a few people take such a beautiful faith and twist it. It's not just the muslim faith. People have twisted the Christian faith for centuries as means to their own ends. And we are the people, people of all faiths, caught in the middle.
a faith is no more than the people who follow it and there is nothing beautiful about iron age dogma.
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#64

Why would this make anyone mad? It makes Muhammad look like a badass.



Sorry if this image offended any Muslims btw.
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#65

Originally Posted by ghst: View Post
a faith is no more than the people who follow it and there is nothing beautiful about iron age dogma.
You've studied Islam, I can tell.
Synth_floyd
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#66



It sucks that there are so many people with nothing better to do than riot and cause violence over something that will not impact them in any way possible. But that's what happens when you have such an intellectually narrow minded culture (see the Penn State riots in the US for an example in the west)
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I almost feel like this is how people who have no outlet want to show their devotion to Allah, and prove they are good Muslims. We don't just have acts of kindness, we have acts of defiance and valor against a godless\pagan superpower that is at war with Islam. You put your life on the line for your religion, you must truly be a faithful follower.

It's like a lot of these people are the young turks, hungry for truth and meaning, and they think they've found it here.
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#68

Originally Posted by Bisnic: View Post
They must believe its the US government who did it... they seriously dont think that 1 american making an anti-islam video is a good enough reason to do all this... right?
They do believe the government is responsible in this case, but they've spilled blood for the actions of individuals in the past (see Salman Rushdie, Danish cartoons).
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#69

Originally Posted by Spiffy_1st: View Post
Sorry if this image offended any Muslims btw.
he isn't meant to be shown at all according to muslim law.
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#70

Originally Posted by Gareth Bale: View Post
Because let's assume none of them were born in this country...
but we're deporting them to stupid mcstupidville
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#71

Originally Posted by SUPREME1: View Post
These idiots are the ones who've given this movie an audience. Nobody would have heard of it or bothered to watch.

I actually went to Youtube to see what the big fuss was about. I couldn't even watch more than a couple of minutes because it was so bad.

Yet, these dipshits are killing over it.


SIT.THE.FUCK.DOWN.AND.CHILL.OUT.
If there was one thing I could command everyone on this planet to do...
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#72

Originally Posted by pakkit: View Post
Sorry, but apologetic tones don't forgive blatant racism.

Riot mentality is dangerous, it's the same way some bad eggs were able to derail the Occupy movement and get public support on the side of the cops.
I honestly agree with him and don't think its racist at all. Some of the most intelligent people in the world are Islamic but that still doesn't change the fact that there are a bunch of unstable and violent groups who will cause damage to innocent people. Them being set off to this degree over a shitty video does make a case for isolation from certain content.
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#73

Originally Posted by Spiffy_1st: View Post
Why would this make anyone mad? It makes Muhammad look like a badass.
DDoS incoming.
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#74

Originally Posted by Deified Data: View Post
They do believe the government is responsible in this case, but they've spilled blood for the actions of individuals in the past (see Salman Rushdie, Danish cartoons).
I know the US is kinda broke but come on you guys, your government could have at least given this movie a bigger budget!
Hollywood blockbuster my ass!
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#75

I wish the Middle East had the general indifference to America that Americans have towards the region. Granted, there is a sizable "turn it all into a parking lot" group, but the vast majority of Americans don't really give a shit what is going on over there or what they're saying about us. It'd be so much better if they didn't care like we don't care. Then no one would care about any of this nonsense. What happened to apathy?

It's such a wacky area of the world. It seems like it is so old it can't be fixed, no matter which group is in charge at any given time. It's always been like that. There probably hasn't been true peace in the Middle East since before Abrahamic religions took hold. This is all terrible timing for Obama. This will no doubt be held against him by some people on the fence, and I see the Romney campaign going even deeper into blaming him personally for all that's going on right now.

This is really the past 70ish years or so coming back to haunt America. We've been fucking around in the area for so long (and obviously the past 20 years or so have been quite unkind) that it's really amazing there has never been a full on "FUCK AMERICA" kind of deal going on in every country in the region. I'm really interested to see where this all heads from a nation relations viewpoint. I feel like Bush would have been ready to drop bombs a few days ago. Maybe Romney, too. I have to wonder if this will be the start of American withdrawal from the area, or if we'll double down and dig in deeper.
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#76

Originally Posted by Mikey Jr.: View Post
I think they just honestly want to cause mayhem. Like its in their blood.
Am I missing something or is that remark totally racist?
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#77

Originally Posted by ghst: View Post
a faith is no more than the people who follow it and there is nothing beautiful about iron age dogma.
Nothing beautiful about dismissing a person's faith as nothing more than just a tenet to follow either. Faith is more than to a lot of people.
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#78

Originally Posted by Bisnic: View Post
I guess someone just told them "Hey an american insult our prophet, let's go destroy their shit!". That was enough of a good reason for all these protesters. Hating the USA is like their national sport.
Ya, some of these people just seem to be born to it. No doubt they're in a jealous rage over how just and enlightened and democratic Americans are, expressing their pent up frustrations over many, many decades of enlightened American altruism in the Middle East.
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#79

Originally Posted by Spiffy_1st: View Post
Why would this make anyone mad? It makes Muhammad look like a badass.



Sorry if this image offended any Muslims btw.
RIP Spiffy_1st
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#80

Originally Posted by Bisnic: View Post
RIP Spiffy_1st
lolol
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#81

Originally Posted by cousins: View Post
he isn't meant to be shown at all according to muslim law.
why? isnt he drop dead sexy?
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#82

mostly young protesters fighting authorities.
"what are we fighting for?"
"who cares..we on CNN.What else did u have planned for today???"
"nothin."
"ok..pick up a rock fool."
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#83

Originally Posted by Palette Swap: View Post
Am I missing something or is that remark totally racist?
you're missing something.
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Originally Posted by Cousteau: View Post
mostly young protesters fighting authorities.
"what are we fighting for?"
"who cares..we on CNN.What else did u have planned for today???"
"nothin."
"ok..pick up a rock fool."
lol
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#85

A peaceful protest would have been ok but this shit is completely ridiculous.

Way to leave it to a small portion to ruin it for everyone else.

It's a shame shit like this happens because people start to believe that what they see is the true religion.
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#86

Goddamn these protests are so fucking stupid and against the prophets teachings.

People wrote insulting poetry about him and threw trash infront of his house yet he did not react, I'm an exmuslim and I respect Muhammad for his character and these 'muslims' who think they are protecting the prophets honor by doing these acts need to look back and read about their own fucking religion, gah these people are starting to protest in the Gulf states and they are so full of shit it makes me sick.

It is no wonder Westerners see us as a savage people when so many act like animals everytime a goddamn STUPID video on youtube is sent around BB broadcasts and twitter.
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#87

Fuck, my brother's in Tunisia right now.
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Originally Posted by cousins: View Post
he isn't meant to be shown at all according to muslim law.
Not for some Shia they dont give a shit. They even sell portraits of him.
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#89

Originally Posted by pakkit: View Post
Sorry, but apologetic tones don't forgive blatant racism.

Riot mentality is dangerous, it's the same way some bad eggs were able to derail the Occupy movement and get public support on the side of the cops.
Guilt tripping won't work here. I've held your view my entire life and they keep proving me wrong. This isn't about Islam. It's about a culture that feels honor is worth killing for. I hold the same judgement for Christians who bomb abortion clinics - "they don't know better" is not a valid excuse.
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#90

Why are the German and UK embassies attacked in Sudan?
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Christians who bomb abortion clinics
How often does this actually happen?
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Why aren't these countries sending in troops to protect the embassies?
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Originally Posted by Glasswork: View Post
Goddamn these protests are so fucking stupid and against the prophets teachings.

People wrote insulting poetry about him and threw trash infront of his house yet he did not react, I'm an exmuslim and I respect Muhammad for his character and these 'muslims' who think they are protecting the prophets honor by doing these acts need to look back and read about their own fucking religion, gah these people are starting to protest in the Gulf states and they are so full of shit it makes me sick.

It is no wonder Westerners see us as a savage people when so many act like animals everytime a goddamn STUPID video on youtube is sent around BB broadcasts and twitter.
So all Muslims are seen as "savages" because some idiots are protesting and causing trouble for a video? It's like looking at a Tea Party protest and judging every Christian/American based on that.

If anyone has that perspective in the west, then they're simply idiots. There are several countries with Muslims majorities where people haven't given a fuck about this video. If you've noticed, most of the countries where these violent protest have been happening, there has been a civil unrest for awhile, and most of them have somewhat of a bad relationship with the US. This video seems to have been the breaking point and the people want to take their anger out of the US.
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Originally Posted by Agent Ironside: View Post
How often does this actually happen?
Yeah there is some serious false equivalency going on here. Besides anyone who thinks I wouldn't bring the Hammer of Dawn down on them just the same hasent read enough of my posts.
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Originally Posted by Agent Ironside: View Post
How often does this actually happen?
Not as much anymore. It (it being the vandalization and undue destruction of abortion clinics, not necessarily through bombings) happened quite often during the aughts. The abortion clinics I know of personally get a lot of people coming in attempting to spread prolife propaganda, which usually results in someone yelling and begrudgingly leaving or the cops being called. But from what I've seen personally, i've seen more ignorance at 3am at an innercity McDonalds.

The message is the same, but the means are less extreme. It's still wrong.

Originally Posted by Kenak: View Post
Why aren't these countries sending in troops to protect the embassies?
It makes more sense to get those people out rather than putting more people in harms way.
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#96

Originally Posted by Kenak: View Post
Why aren't these countries sending in troops to protect the embassies?
why isn't the US military doing anything to protect these embassies? or are they? i have no idea honestly.
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#97

Originally Posted by Palette Swap: View Post
Am I missing something or is that remark totally racist?
islam is not a race.
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#98

Originally Posted by DXB-KNIGHT: View Post
Why are the German and UK embassies attacked in Sudan?
Because the people attacking have no sense and can't think for themselves.

They're not normal humans with reason.
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#99

Originally Posted by Palette Swap: View Post
Am I missing something or is that remark totally racist?
Are you saying that we all don't share the same blood?
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#100

Originally Posted by davepoobond: View Post
islam is not a race.
Eh, Muslim and Arab is interchangeable for most racists.

And I just watched that video and it's seriously a comedy, some of the most absurdly hateful film making I've seen in modern times, to the point where it almost comes off as satire...