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#101

Originally Posted by OriginofHysteria: View Post
Originally Posted by maxxpower: View Post
Beats women at what?
IRL Street Fighter.
I feel bad for laughing at this
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#102

Wait, he got a tattoo of a beat up woman that looks like what he did to Rihanna?

dude is a psychopath
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#103

Originally Posted by Husker86: View Post
I just finally decided to google this gif and found out this is not Galifianakis. Mind blown.
What's it from? The answer has been at the tip of my mind forever, but I've always failed to put the fragments together.
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#104

Originally Posted by Second: View Post
She forgave him.
What is your point? That happens all the time with women in abusive relationships. The fact that a high profile celebrity forgave her attacker should really not be seen as a positive and may in fact empower other abusers.
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#105

Lol. I'm fine with this.
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#106

He was never going to be truly kicked out of the industry.

You only need to look at something like his 'Beautiful People' video to see he wasn't going anywhere with all the industry friends he had.

In a sick way him beating up Rhianna probably elevated his career.

Certainly allowed him to drop the old clean cut look he had and present a bad boy 'don't give a fuck' image.
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#107

Originally Posted by Husker86: View Post
I just finally decided to google this gif and found out this is not Galifianakis. Mind blown.
This is a joke right.
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#108

Originally Posted by Perspicacity: View Post
What is your point? That happens all the time with women in abusive relationships. The fact that a high profile celebrity forgave her attacker should really not be seen as a positive and may in fact empower other abusers.
Ehhh, I was just saying.

My post could also be interpreted as a Rihanna bash. But I was just saying...
ssolitare
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#109

Originally Posted by Dabanton: View Post
He was never going to be truly kicked out of the industry.

You only need to look at something like his 'Beautiful People' video to see he wasn't going anywhere with all the support he had.

In a sick way him beating up Rhianna probably elevated his career.

Certainly allowed him to drop the old clean cut look he had and present a bad boy 'don't give a fuck' image.
At least the image actually fits the personality this time. I really dislike Chris Brown, he's scum.
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#110

Originally Posted by FelixOrion: View Post
Really?
The Suicide of Dead, and the Murduer of Euronymous by Varg Vikernes (all from Mayhem)?
I love metal, but seriously, who the fuck cares about that Shit?
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#111

If R.Kelly is able to piss on an under aged girl and still make a comeback, then why be shocked the Chris Brown can make a comeback? I can get over what Chris did, I'm actually more upset with the lack of remorse Chris has shown over the beating.
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#112

If this were 3 years ago I'd be chuckling... But It seems a little late to be chastising him for something that he may have grown out of (maybe? Maybe not?)
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#113

Yep. I'm ok with this.
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Originally Posted by Fiction: View Post
Keep in mind that most abusers groom their victims a ton before even throwing a punch. I am not too worried about her because she is rich as hell and In a position to get away if/when she snaps out of it. Right now he's likely convinced her it was a one time thing, he'd had too much to drink/a bad day, and she really loved him she'd give him another chance, while at the same time subtley implying that it was her fault he snapped, leading to feelings of guilt on her part. She seems pretty smart though, and when it happens again, I bet she won't buy it a second time.

Note that all of the above is just speculation based on why women stay with people who abuse them.
having read rihanna's twitter, I disagree on the 'smart' part.
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#115

Originally Posted by Strafer: View Post
Who did he beat?
A female (Rihanna) , it is okay to beat someone who is weaker than you and is a male according to society.

If a female is hit though the male instantly becomes a scum-bag... It is pretty sexist.

Violence against anyone is wrong.
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#116

Originally Posted by JaseC: View Post
What's it from? The answer has been at the tip of my mind forever, but I've always failed to put the fragments together.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068762/

Originally Posted by shadyspace: View Post
This is a joke right.
I am not an old movie buff, sorry :(

I really do want to catch up on the classics eventually though. Not sure if this qualifies as one (I've never heard of it), but I realize there is a lack in my entertainment exposure.
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#117

Originally Posted by Kiraly: View Post
The constant hate this guy gets on the internet is a bit absurd as there are countless celebs that are even more shittier
It's not enough.

http://trollingchrisbrown.tumblr.com/

This isn't enough either.
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#118

Originally Posted by computers putin': View Post
If R.Kelly is able to piss on an under aged girl and still make a comeback
How old is 15 really?
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#119

Originally Posted by Second: View Post
She forgave him.
Rhianna is foolish.
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#120

It's true.
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#121

Originally Posted by Fuzzy: View Post
How old is 15 really?
when you say teenage, how old are you talkin'?

oh kellz...
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#122

Originally Posted by LostVoyager: View Post
A female (Rihanna) , it is okay to beat someone who is weaker than you and is a male according to society.

If a female is hit though the male instantly becomes a scum-bag... It is pretty sexist.

Violence against anyone is wrong.

Um, no...no its not okay to beat anyone, male or female.
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#123

the guy isnt as bad as mel gibson i gotta say tho
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#124

all the negative attention he gets now by some only helps his "poor me, persecuted bad boy" image that so many chicks rush to...
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#125

Originally Posted by Fiction: View Post
Um, no...no its not okay to beat anyone, male or female.
He has a point though: if a woman is hit, that person gets some kind of deeply primitive scarlet letter against them that is far more unforgivable than if a man was hit.

And it's good that people are outraged against any violence... But I have no doubt that if Chris Brown hit a man, we would not be celebrating how much we hate him 3 years after the fact.
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#126

Perfect label, hope it becomes a trend.
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#127

Originally Posted by LostVoyager: View Post
A female (Rihanna) , it is okay to beat someone who is weaker than you and is a male according to society.

If a female is hit though the male instantly becomes a scum-bag... It is pretty sexist.

Violence against anyone is wrong.
Originally Posted by Fiction: View Post
Um, no...no its not okay to beat anyone, male or female.
Yeah that is what I am saying... If this guy beat up a male than would he be condemned like this?
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#128

Originally Posted by Husker86: View Post
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068762/



I am not an old movie buff, sorry :(

I really do want to catch up on the classics eventually though. Not sure if this qualifies as one (I've never heard of it), but I realize there is a lack in my entertainment exposure.
I think he meant it was blowing his mind too. Blew mine.
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#129

Originally Posted by BocoDragon: View Post
He has a point though: if a woman is hit, that person gets some kind of deeply primitive scarlet letter against them that is far more unforgivable than if a man was hit.

And it's good that people are outraged against any violence... But I have no doubt that if Chris Brown hit a man, we would not be celebrating how much we hate him 3 years after the fact.
This has less to do with it being more inherently wrong to hit a certain gender (beating is bad no matter who you're hitting, mmkay) and more to do with how society has set up gender roles. In a perfect harmonious world, hitting a defenseless anyone would be considered monstrous (and it is pretty much already, thankfully). Thing is, as it stands in Western culture, beating a woman is pretty much analogous with kicking someone while they're down. Chris Brown is a scummaster.
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#130

Originally Posted by JesseZao: View Post
I think he meant it was blowing his mind too. Blew mine.
No.

Originally Posted by Husker86: View Post
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068762/



I am not an old movie buff, sorry :(

I really do want to catch up on the classics eventually though. Not sure if this qualifies as one (I've never heard of it), but I realize there is a lack in my entertainment exposure.
I don't know what film it is either. But you should at least recognize Robert Redford, man.
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#131

How come good guys on gaf never find love but this douchebag has millions willing to suck his dick?
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#132

To say that Chris Brown 'beat' Rihanna is a euphemism. For those who care here's an excerpt from the police report.

Quote:
"Brown was driving a vehicle with Robyn F. as the front passenger on an unknown street in Los Angeles. Robyn F. picked up Brown's cellular phone and observed a three-page text message from a woman who Brown had a previous sexual relationship with.

"A verbal argument ensued and Brown pulled the vehicle over on an unknown street, reached over Robyn F. with his right hand, opened the car door and attempted to force her out. Brown was unable to force Robyn F. out of the vehicle because she was wearing a seat belt. When he could not force her to exit, he took his right hand and shoved her head against he passenger window of the vehicle, causing an approximate one-inch raised circular contusion.

"Robyn F. turned to face Brown and he punched her in the left eye with his right hand. He then drove away in the vehicle and continued to punch her in the face with his right hand while steering the vehicle with his left hand. The assault caused Robyn F.'s mouth to fill with blood and blood to splatter all over her clothing and the interior of the vehicle.Brown looked at Robyn F. and stated, 'I'm going to beat the sh- out of you when we get home! You wait and see!'

"The detective said "Robyn F." then used her cell phone to call her personal assistant Jennifer Rosales, who did not answer.Robyn F. pretended to talk to her and stated, 'I'm on my way home. Make sure the police are there when I get there.' After Robyn F. faked the call, Brown looked at her and stated, 'You just did the stupidest thing ever! Now I'm really going to kill you!'

"Brown resumed punching Robyn F. and she interlocked her fingers behind her head and brought her elbows forward to protect her face. She then bent over at the waist, placing her elbows and face near her lap in [an] attempt to protect her face and head from the barrage of punches being levied upon her by Brown.

"Brown continued to punch Robyn F. on her left arm and hand, causing her to suffer a contusion on her left triceps (sic) that was approximately two inches in diameter and numerous contusions on her left hand.

"Robyn F. then attempted to send a text message to her other personal assistant, Melissa Ford. Brown snatched the cellular telephone out of her hand and threw it out of the window onto an unknown street.Brown continued driving and Robyn F. observed his cellular telephone sitting in his lap. She picked up the cellular telephone with her left hand and before she could make a call he placed her in a head lock with his right hand and continued to drive the vehicle with his left hand.Brown pulled Robyn F. close to him and bit her on her left ear. She was able to feel the vehicle swerving from right to left as Brown sped away. He stopped the vehicle in front of 333 North June Street and Robyn F. turned off the car, removed the key from the ignition and sat on it.

"Brown did not know what she did with the key and began punching her in the face and arms. He then placed her in a head lock positioning the front of her throat between his bicep and forearm. Brown began applying pressure to Robyn F.'s left and right carotid arteries, causing her to be unable to breathe and she began to lose consciousness.

"She reached up with her left hand and began attempting to gouge his eyes in an attempt to free herself. Brown bit her left ring and middle fingers and then released her. While Brown continued to punch her, she turned around and placed her back against the passenger door. She brought her knees to her chest, placed her feet against Brown's body and began pushing him away. Brown continued to punch her on the legs and feet, causing several contusions.

"Robyn F. began screaming for help and Brown exited the vehicle and walked away. A resident in the neighborhood heard Robyn F.'s plea for help and called 911, causing a police response. An investigation was conducted and Robyn F. was issued a Domestic Violence Emergency Protective Order."
He has shown no contrition or any real remorse for any of this. He is a failed experiment as far as a decent human being goes and the only pity is that there will be another victim before he is brought to proper justice.
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#133

Unfortunately it seems many of his batshit crazy fans either don't care or actually feel sorry for him.

At one of my old jobs in college there was this girl who would always defend him and actually say bad things about Rihanna.
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#134

Originally Posted by shadyspace: View Post
No.



I don't know what film it is either. But you should at least recognize Robert Redford, man.
Doesn't resemble him as you usually see him. Does look a lot like Zach.
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#135

Originally Posted by Dyno: View Post
To say that Chris Brown 'beat' Rihanna is a euphemism. For those who care here's an excerpt from the police report.



He has shown no contrition or any real remorse for any of this. He is a failed experiment as far as a decent human being goes and the only pity is that there will be another victim before he is brought to proper justice.
Make you wonder how he got off with community service.
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#136

Awesome
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Originally Posted by LostVoyager: View Post
Yeah that is what I am saying... If this guy beat up a male than would he be condemned like this?
If he beat up a far younger man or a completely defenseless man, yes. The point is that, thanks to the way society has developed, there are far more males who would be capable of defending themselves from his attack than females. Gender roles, yo. Unfortunately, society sort of expects women to be delicate flowers, ergo people who stomp on flowers are jerks.
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#138

Originally Posted by SalsaShark: View Post
The fact that this dude still exists, makes music, and has fans is probably the most repugnant thing ive ever seen in terms of pop culture. Just fucking disgusting.

Almost as disgusting of course is people paying attention and cheering on Rihanna as a person when she just goes back to this dipshit after he beat the fuck out of her.

Easily the most fucked up event in what's considered to be popular or music culture. Just cant comprehend it and wrap my head around it, never will.
I agree with you, but the entertainment industry has a history of rationalizing atrocious behaviour. See one Polanski, Roman.
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Originally Posted by legend166: View Post
I agree with you, but the entertainment industry has a history of rationalizing atrocious behaviour. See one Polanski, Roman.
And rationalizing in a sexist way. Chris Brown's career has already been miraculously revived and even bestowed with a Grammy while someone like Janet Jackson remains blacklisted out of sight due to an accidental tit flash eight years ago.

Seems like it's easier to forgive a bad boy than a "bad" girl.


Those stickers on the covers are amazing. They should have taken the opportunity to add another sticker with the label "SHIT MUSIC."
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#140

Originally Posted by BigJiantRobut: View Post
If he beat up a far younger man or a completely defenseless man, yes. The point is that, thanks to the way society has developed, there are far more males who would be capable of defending themselves from his attack than females. Gender roles, yo. Unfortunately, society sort of expects women to be delicate flowers, ergo people who stomp on flowers are jerks.
a far younger man? like an 8 year old? that would be child abuse...
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Originally Posted by The Faceless Master: View Post
a far younger man? like an 8 year old? that would be child abuse...
Uh, yeah? That was kind of my point. Lost Voyager asked if people would've cared if he beat up a male, I provided an example.
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#142

Originally Posted by BigJiantRobut: View Post
This has less to do with it being more inherently wrong to hit a certain gender (beating is bad no matter who you're hitting, mmkay) and more to do with how society has set up gender roles. In a perfect harmonious world, hitting a defenseless anyone would be considered monstrous (and it is pretty much already, thankfully). Thing is, as it stands in Western culture, beating a woman is pretty much analogous with kicking someone while they're down. Chris Brown is a scummaster.
The consideration that harming a female is analogous with "kicking someone while they're down" is considerably a sexist notion though.

Noone is saying that what Chris Brown did was right in this topic, but the condemnation illustrates a blatant double standard in our society and sympathies extend to who exactly the victim is not just gender-wise.

Originally Posted by BigJiantRobut: View Post
Uh, yeah? That was kind of my point. Lost Voyager asked if people would've cared if he beat up a male, I provided an example.
If he beat up a male the same age as Rihanna would he be universally condemned?

Furthermore, I would think a community that claims to be very liberal would be more forgiving of someone who has made mistakes.
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#143

This is awesome. Should become a trend in the US, too.
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Originally Posted by BigJiantRobut: View Post
Uh, yeah? That was kind of my point. Lost Voyager asked if people would've cared if he beat up a male, I provided an example.
yeah, i guess you're right.

*golf clap*
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#145

Originally Posted by LostVoyager: View Post
The consideration that harming a female is analogous with "kicking someone while they're down" is considerably a sexist notion though.

Noone is saying that what Chris Brown did was right in this topic, but the condemnation illustrates a blatant double standard in our society and sympathies extend to who exactly the victim is not just gender-wise.
Acknowledging and observing that sexism has caused some serious issues in society isn't sexism. Do you also think that hate crime legislation is wrong?

Originally Posted by LostVoyager: View Post
If he beat up a male the same age as Rihanna would he be universally condemned?
A male the same age as Rihanna would most likely not have grown up avoiding "masculine" things like fighting so Brown might have actually encountered some resistance. "Pick on someone your own size," etc. I dunno, we're getting into conjecture. I'm not sure whether or not Rihanna could've fought back but it seems like she was pretty defenseless at the time (was she in the military or something at some point? I can't remember if that was her or not).
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out0v0rder
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#146

his fans give him power
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Originally Posted by BigJiantRobut: View Post
Acknowledging and observing that sexism has caused some serious issues in society isn't sexist. Do you also think that hate crime legislation is wrong?
Condemning violence towards women but being more lenient towards violence against males is sexist by definition of the term. How is him hitting Rihanna comparable to a hate crime? Do you think he targeted Rihanna because she was a woman? Do you think he just hit her because he has anger issues? Getting into motivation for a crime is tricky.

With hate crimes, if someone ****ing vandalizes a property that belongs to a Jewish male with nazi symbolism or assaults a hispanic male and tells them "stop takin our jobs" or crap like that than it is obviously a hate crime the motive is clear.

I am not saying whether hate crimes are wrong/right because I do not want this topic derailed.


Originally Posted by BigJiantRobut: View Post
...
A male the same age as Rihanna would most likely not have grown up avoiding "masculine" things like fighting so Brown might have actually encountered some resistance. "Pick on someone your own size," etc. I dunno, we're getting into conjecture. I'm not sure whether or not Rihanna could've fought back but it seems like she was pretty defenseless at the time (was she in the military or something at some point? I can't remember if that was her or not).
Not all males are strong/big, furthermore expecting a male to fight back is somewhat a sexist notion. Could Rihanna of fought back? it should not matter, the fact was that she was assaulted. The same case should be for a male who is assaulted.


Originally Posted by out0v0rder: View Post
his fans give him power
I have not met a Chris Brown fan (then again I have never heard a song by him). I would imagine that yes his fans give him power, much like fans of other celebrities collectively contribute to lionizing said men/women.
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Originally Posted by out0v0rder: View Post
his fans give him power
he's like a bootleg super saiyan
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Originally Posted by LostVoyager: View Post
Yeah that is what I am saying... If this guy beat up a male than would he be condemned like this?
If he 'beat' up a male who never took a swing at him and never did take a swing at him througout the 'beating' then probably. If he also bit that guys ear and finger in the process then I would say most definately.

Context: Mike Tyson bit Evander Holyfield's ear and didn't get to box again. He was apologetic, and sincere, and it was evident he regreted it but it cost him his career.
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Originally Posted by BocoDragon: View Post
If this were 3 years ago I'd be chuckling... But It seems a little late to be chastising him for something that he may have grown out of (maybe? Maybe not?)
You don't "grow out" of being someone who commits domestic violence. Its not about just hitting a woman, its about beating his significant other. Few things, even batterer intervention programs, stop the cycle.