[Aostia]

having specific levels (like the thythmic ones) or portions of the levels (as the "collect-them-all" ones) dedicated to the murphy-touch gameplay to me is great.
I really hope of course that the normal Rayman levels in single player will be the majority of the game

[ViewtifulJC]

Well you still wave, just that you attempt a mugging when Banjo gets close. Of course I always just shot eggs at each jinjo to test their authenticity.

I just shot eggs at them period

[J@hranimo]

I really, really hope this means that Murphy only controls a smaller portion. If not, then damn...my hype for the game has almost gone away completely.

Talk about blue balls :(

[Nocturnowl]

I just shot eggs at them period

They shouldn't have allowed you to use the mighty jinjonator with that attitude.

[MidnightScott]

Uh oh... a cog has come loose in the Rayman Legends machine

What the fuck Ubisoft...

[Snuggler]

having specific levels (like the thythmic ones) or portions of the levels (as the "collect-them-all" ones) dedicated to the murphy-touch gameplay to me is great. I really hope of course that the normal Rayman levels in single player will be the majority of the game

This is basically how I feel. If the Murfy segments have as much presence as the Mosquito levels in Origins, I would have nothing to complain about. A little variety doesn't hurt, even if it's not as appealing as the main course. But overall I just want an to have another awesome platforming experience without needing to force people to play with me.

[fabricated backlash]

Over reaction much? So a good portion of the single player will actually give you new gameplay... Worst game ever!!!! ARRRRRGH!!!!

The audacity to have gamers move out of their comfort zone for some levels... what is Ubisoft thinking? People don't want new stuff. They want the same regurgitated stuff they've played last year, but with new visuals. Fuck innovation, give us eternal sameness, so that we won't have to try different things.

From what I played from the demo, Murphy is actually very fun to play with. You get plenty of chances to interact with the world and open passages and stuff. It's fun, but I guess I'm just not hardcore enough to recognize that this is ruining the whole game, regardless of the fact that it's only part of the game.

Regarding cancelling the preorder: You're insane, this game is so much fun, it definitely was the most fun I had all Gamescom and even playing Murphy is a lot of fun. Just playing this game with my girlfriend will definitely beat most other games single handedly and if it really is 50% Rayman, 50% Murphy in singleplayer, the game still will be an awesome game, because Murphy is not just a boring platform-placing helper like in NSMB U but has really great gameplay in itself!

You're doing it wrong, this game is meant to be played alone by yourself, and now it's not possible to enjoy any part of it, because you are forced to hate yourself when playing it.

Shame on you for suggesting that the hilarious outrage on GAF is anything but an overreaction.

[Spieler Eins]

Over reaction much? So a good portion of the single player will actually give you new gameplay... Worst game ever!!!! ARRRRRGH!!!! The audacity to have gamers move out of their comfort zone for some levels... what is Ubisoft thinking? People don't want new stuff. They want the same regurgitated stuff they've played last year, but with new visuals. Fuck innovation, give us eternal sameness, so that we won't have to try different things. From what I played from the demo, Murphy is actually very fun to play with. You get plenty of chances to interact with the world and open passages and stuff. It's fun, but I guess I'm just not hardcore enough to recognize that this is ruining the whole game, regardless of the fact that it's only part of the game. You're doing it wrong, this game is meant to be played alone by yourself, and now it's not possible to enjoy any part of it, because you are forced to hate yourself when playing it. Shame on you for suggesting that the hilarious outrage on GAF is anything but an overreaction.

This isn't innovation though. It's just a butchered singleplayer.

[Vinci]

I would wait for reviews before completely throwing the game under a bus, but that said... what the fuck are you even thinking, Ubisoft? In fact, why do game developers do this sort of shit on Nintendo systems? It's always a stutter-step or a test or some other useless hijinx - and then they wonder why their titles sell less well there.

How about you stop poking the audience on those systems with a stick? Maybe then they'd buy your stuff more.

[vareon]

Over reaction much? So a good portion of the single player will actually give you new gameplay... Worst game ever!!!! ARRRRRGH!!!! The audacity to have gamers move out of their comfort zone for some levels... what is Ubisoft thinking? People don't want new stuff. They want the same regurgitated stuff they've played last year, but with new visuals. Fuck innovation, give us eternal sameness, so that we won't have to try different things. From what I played from the demo, Murphy is actually very fun to play with. You get plenty of chances to interact with the world and open passages and stuff. It's fun, but I guess I'm just not hardcore enough to recognize that this is ruining the whole game, regardless of the fact that it's only part of the game.

We have many people wondering how this is gonna be played single-player for months. Then an interview said "a good portion" (a very vague statement) of the game you will not be playing as Rayman. It's understandable if people are upset if the experience they're looking for in Rayman is auto-played. Not saying Murfy's parts aren't going to be fun.

If anything, people are more upset with the vague "good portion" statement.

[dark10x]

This has to be some sort of mistake.

Over reaction much? So a good portion of the single player will actually give you new gameplay... Worst game ever!!!! ARRRRRGH!!!!

We already have loads of games trying to deliver "new gameplay" and very rarely do they provide the same level of joy achieved by great platformers (for me at least).

[Foshy]

We have many people wondering how this is gonna be played single-player for months. Then an interview said "a good portion" (a very vague statement) of the game you will not be playing as Rayman. It's understandable if people are upset if the experience they're looking for in Rayman is auto-played. Not saying Murfy's parts aren't going to be fun. If anything, people are more upset with the vague "good portion" statement.

Tthe way he said it, "half the levels...well maybe not half but a good portion" to me sounds like about every third level could be a Murphy level. Too much imo.

[GregLombardi]

Ubisoft's solution to the problem of Murphy / Gamepad centric gameplay is a very poor one if it takes up that much of the game IMO. That said, it may not make a difference one way or another depending on how much non-Murphy content there is, and the nature of that content.

Many posters in this thread have said that the game is insanely fun, which counts for quite a bit in the end, in my book at least.

[Fireblend]

What? What?

I'll take this news with a grain of salt and wait for further information. Telling this to my girlfriend would break her. Origins is a masterpiece, don't you dare screw with that formula Ubisoft T_T

[.la1n]

UBIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

[fabricated backlash]

This isn't innovation though. It's just a butchered singleplayer.

Butchered? Did you play it or are you just talking out of your rear? I played it, and liked the Murphy gameplay quite a lot. Butchered my ass.

But oh no, if it's in any way shape or form a deviation from the core gamer accepted norm it has to be trash right?

We have many people wondering how this is gonna be played single-player for months. Then an interview said "a good portion" (a very vague statement) of the game you will not be playing as Rayman. It's understandable if people are upset if the experience they're looking for in Rayman is auto-played. Not saying Murfy's parts aren't going to be fun. If anything, people are more upset with the vague "good portion" statement.

Some are, and even then I still maintain that the Murphy levels are fun, and that it isn't the whole game. I am actually more surprised that people were looking forward to play the game alone. Origins was boring as shit when played alone.

I'm looking forward to see this game bomb so that Ubisoft is encouraged not to think outside the box for future games and kill off the Rayman (Origins/Legends) series to get back to release nothing but Bratz and Babyz as well as Bro style Ghost Recon abominations.

[Lord British]

But oh no, if it's in any way shape or form a deviation from the core gamer accepted norm it has to be trash right?

You are very silly.

[fabricated backlash]

You are very silly.

If silly is the opposite to the drama queen reactions in here, then by all means I am silly.

[Brashnir]

Awesome.

Thanks Ubisoft, you just saved me 400 bucks.

[Lord British]

If silly is the opposite to the drama queen reactions in here, then by all means I am silly.

Yours are precisely as fervent, if not more so. Disappointment at not getting another straight-up platformer does not reflect an inherent dismissal or disgerard of innovation. Personally I wouldn't be playing this single-player so it doesn't concern me that much, but I can understand the disappointment. It's a bit like taking a big bite of a delicous burger only to find a brace of pickles. They're meant to be there, sure, but not necessarily welcome.

I really like your username, by the way.

Awesome. Thanks Ubisoft, you just saved me 400 bucks.

That's the spirit!

[Snuggler]

If silly is the opposite to the drama queen reactions in here, then by all means I am silly.

Honestly, you're coming off as more of a drama queen than anyone else in this thread. It's a platforming game. It's not that unreasonable for solo players to be disappointed that they'll be forced to do something other than platforming for a good portion of the game. I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun for co-op players, but people like me are kind of being left out in the cold. All I want is a pure 2D platformer, the genre isn't exactly saturated at the moment. That being said, I don't think the game will be butchered or ruined by this, but as that guy from Deus Ex once said, "I didn't ask for this".

[jimi_dini]

We thought it was supposed to be a platforming game.

fixed

[SquiddyCracker]

I don't mind this at all, looks like it'll be an interesting Co-op game to play with a semi-casual gamer.
Heck, even grandma might be able to play as Murfy while you control Rayman.

[Glorified G]

I don't mind this at all, looks like it'll be an interesting Co-op game to play with a semi-casual gamer. Heck, even grandma might be able to play as Murfy while you control Rayman.

The topic is about the sp.

[Snuggler]

fixed

It will still be a platformer for everyone who ISN'T playing as Murfy. And to be fair, playing as Murfy with real people does sound like a great time, I can only imagine the potential for griefing.

On a similar note, an adversarial mode using the Murfy mechanics could be pretty fun. Instead of aiding Rayman and friends, you would use the GamePad to try and kill them by messing with platforms and creating hazards.

[epmode]

Butchered? Did you play it or are you just talking out of your rear? I played it, and liked the Murphy gameplay quite a lot. Butchered my ass. But oh no, if it's in any way shape or form a deviation from the core gamer accepted norm it has to be trash right? Some are, and even then I still maintain that the Murphy levels are fun, and that it isn't the whole game. I am actually more surprised that people were looking forward to play the game alone. Origins was boring as shit when played alone. I'm looking forward to see this game bomb so that Ubisoft is encouraged not to think outside the box for future games and kill off the Rayman (Origins/Legends) series to get back to release nothing but Bratz and Babyz as well as Bro style Ghost Recon abominations.

This is the craziest, most passive-aggressive post I've seen on GAF the last ~2 days.

I'm not sure why it bothers you when people expect a sequel to play like an earlier game!

[Shepard]

[fabricated backlash]

Yours are precisely as fervent, if not more so. Disappointment at not getting another straight-up platformer does not reflect an inherent dismissal or disgerard of innovation. Personally I wouldn't be playing this single-player so it doesn't concern me that much, but I can understand the disappointment. It's a bit like taking a big bite of a delicous burger only to find a brace of pickles. They're meant to be there, sure, but not necessarily welcome. I really like your username, by the way.

Lol my username is mod given, but glad someone likes it^^

I can understand some disappointment over this decision, but I still think the reaction displayed by some is way out of proportion.
Just as I understand that some people are disappointed about Bayonetta 2 being exclusive when the first was multiplat.

I am not dismissing that, but from some of the comments here you would think that the game is completely ruined and not an insult to gamers. The drama is just too artificial for me to take seriously.

This is the craziest, most passive-aggressive post I've seen on GAF the last ~2 days. I'm not sure why it bothers you when people expect a sequel to play like an earlier game!

It bothers me that people outright call it a butchered game when it's not.

Honestly, you're coming off as more of a drama queen than anyone else in this thread. It's a platforming game. It's not that unreasonable for solo players to be disappointed that they'll be forced to do something other than platforming for a good portion of the game. I'm sure it'll be a lot of fun for co-op players, but people like me are kind of being left out in the cold. All I want is a pure 2D platformer, the genre isn't exactly saturated at the moment. That being said, I don't think the game will be butchered or ruined by this, but as that guy from Deus Ex once said, "I didn't ask for this".

Which is ok, I get your angle, but as I qouted before, some are actually calling it a butchered game because of this. Criticisim is one thing, calling the game trash outright is something else.

[Brashnir]

It bothers me that people outright call it a butchered game when it's not.

Take your favorite game.

Replace 30-50% of said favorite game with a new mechanic that you don't find interesting at all.

Madden - You spend 40% of the game playing ping pong.
Call of Duty - You spend 40% of the campaign playing Fruit Ninja.
Mario Galaxy - You spend 40% of the game playing a light-gun shooter.

I might like ping pong, fruit ninja or light-gun games, but for someone who doesn't, they could reasonably consider those franchises butchered by the above changes.

[Spieler Eins]

Butchered? Did you play it or are you just talking out of your rear? I played it, and liked the Murphy gameplay quite a lot. Butchered my ass. But oh no, if it's in any way shape or form a deviation from the core gamer accepted norm it has to be trash right?

I think it's pretty clear that this was designed to be a multiplayer game while the solution for SP leaves a lot to be desired. I already saw this coming at E3, so I'm not mad and simply getting Mario instead. From the looks of it it's impossible to get the full experience out of SP, people were expecting a full-fledged platformer but you will only get this now with someone else. It shouldn't be to hard to see where the disappointment comes from, from Contra back in the day until now with these modern 2D platformers coop has always been a neat bonus, but you could still get the full experience whenever you wanted. This game locks half the content if you don't have anyone to play with all the time.

Which is why I hope that this assymetrical concept will mostly be reduced to party games. Multiplayer (and online) games are good, but are for me only accompanying the singleplayer experiences that I mostly talk about and I will go back to in the future, while MP games will eventually wear off and usually it's hard to go back to those several years later, even if you wanted to.

[Vibed]

The October issue of Nintendo Power confirmed that you'll spend the majority of the game as Rayman. I've got it right next to me.

Though Rayman Legends is intended for -and best enjoyed with- a bunch of friends sitting on the sofa, it does offer the option to play solo. In that case, you'll spend the vast majority of your time controlling Rayman or one of the other platforming heroes, and when you get to a section that requires Murfy's assistance, you'll temporarily switch to him while the AI takes the reins of your other character. We've yet to try this for ourselves, but the developers promise the AI will perform flawlessly to avoid frustration.

There are also a few other tidbits of new info in this issue about Rayman (also other games like Paper Mario), but I can't post a new thread... :(

[Dartastic]

The October issue of Nintendo Power confirmed that you'll spend the majority of the game as Rayman. I've got it right next to me. There are also a few other tidbits of new info in this issue about Rayman (also other games like Paper Mario), but I can't post a new thread... :(

Thank fucking god.

[Drago]

The October issue of Nintendo Power confirmed that you'll spend the majority of the game as Rayman. I've got it right next to me. There are also a few other tidbits of new info in this issue about Rayman (also other games like Paper Mario), but I can't post a new thread... :(

Ubisoft REDEEMED

YAAAAA. :D

also, it may be a bad idea to have a snippet from a magazine. If scans are bad, would pieces of articles be bad too?

[Mgoblue201]

That's how I suggested the game should work, switching back and forth between characters at key sequences, but the developer in the video appeared to suggest that entire levels would be played with Murphy alone, which is where all the initial confusion arose from. I assume he simply misspoke.

[ShockingAlberto]

How confusing.

Good thing it's not launch so I will have time to decide, I guess.

[pramath]

The October issue of Nintendo Power confirmed that you'll spend the majority of the game as Rayman. I've got it right next to me. There are also a few other tidbits of new info in this issue about Rayman (also other games like Paper Mario), but I can't post a new thread... :(

Of course you can.

Just don't post any scans and your g2g.

Somebody should post a thread because Ubi's title has been getting shit on across the internet because of this for no reason.

[AniHawk]

leave it to nintendo to come up with a platformer where you don't jump from platform to platform.

[Vibed]

Of course you can. Just don't post any scans and your g2g. Somebody should post a thread because Ubi's title has been getting shit on across the internet because of this for no reason.

I literally can't, I'm a junior. I would need to spam a bunch of posts or something, lol.

EDIT: Good god some of the screens in this mag like of the underwater world are gorgeous.

[JazzmanZ]

annnd just like that it's on my radar again.

[pramath]

leave it to nintendo to come up with a platformer where you don't jump from platform to platform.

Wha?

[J@hranimo]

Whew...Crisis averted! Hype rejuvenated! Ubisoft redeemed!

Looking forward to this again.

[Exterminieren]

Wha?

AniHawk.

[ImNotSteven]

Crisis averted. In hindsight, I may have overreacted to this.

[The_Lump]

What the fuck Ubisoft. It's a Rayman game where you can't play Rayman?

No. It's a Rayman gane where you sometimes plat Rayman, sometimes another character helping Rayman.

[TyRaNtM]

So.. thread title should be updated.

[ScreenSplitter]

So.. thread title should be updated.

But then where's the baseless sense of indignation?!

[1-D_FTW]

The October issue of Nintendo Power confirmed that you'll spend the majority of the game as Rayman. I've got it right next to me. There are also a few other tidbits of new info in this issue about Rayman (also other games like Paper Mario), but I can't post a new thread... :(

So Nintendo Power, which actually hasn't played any sections where you actually controlled Murphy, is qualified to state how large a portion of the game it composes. Sounds like a trustworthy source.

That's how I suggested the game should work, switching back and forth between characters at key sequences, but the developer in the video appeared to suggest that entire levels would be played with Murphy alone, which is where all the initial confusion arose from. I assume he simply misspoke.

Sounded pretty clear to me. Not sure how he could screw up something that important about his own game.

[addyb]

I honestly dont believe this. If Zombi U ends up shit then ubi are dead to me!

[StickSoldier]

Better be right, but even the top comment from the video says the developer corrected himself so seems like it's legit.

Oh yeah, gonna wait for reviews to avoid another Red Steel situation.

[Heart Attack]

i don't trust nintendopower at all. I'll wait for impressions.