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Borman · 10:44 PM

Hey everyone, hope everyone has been enjoying the sudden onslaught of RARE footage lately. I have one more to add to the pile : Kameo, for the original Xbox.

Sure, it isn't the older Gamecube version, and it looks almost identical to the 360 version that would later come out, but I am happy to finally play the Xbox 1 version. It seems to be mostly complete, although I haven't gotten to testing every little thing yet. I've posted the first 40 minutes or so of the game, along with the unfinished ending cutscene. Exciting stuff!

Footage is available in higher quality from my site, or you can view it on youtube.

Higher quality (plus a short write-up featuring the Gamecube version as well as this version) : http://ptoponline.com/?p=688

Youtube link : http://youtube.com/ptoponline

(Full disclosure, my site, yadayada. You guys like most of the beta games I post :P)

Here are a few screenshots to get you started

Mihael Mello Keehl · (10-01-2012, 10:40 PM)

Doesnt look bad almost looks the same as the 360 one since the assets are the same.

VindicatorZ · (10-01-2012, 10:40 PM)

Wow, The Xbox 1 was definitely in a league of it's own in that generation.

_woLf · (10-01-2012, 10:41 PM)

I still want a sequel to this game :(

Metalic · (10-01-2012, 10:41 PM)

Kameo is arguably my favorite title of the 360 launch lineup, too bad we probably won't get a sequel :(

diamount · (10-01-2012, 10:42 PM)

Originally Posted by Mihael Mello Keehl:

Doesnt look bad almost looks the same as the 360 one since the assets are the same.

Launch titles look so bad.

EatinOlives · (10-01-2012, 10:45 PM)

Originally Posted by diamount:

Launch titles look so bad.

Kameo doesn't actually look that bad for a launch title. I think it's the best looking of the bunch, actually.

Gattsu25 · 10:48 PM

The art style looks better, at a glance.

Edit: I think I'm just looking at the bright images in the OP for too long. The simplified outdoor lighting looks to be the main difference. The drab areas look just as uninteresting as they did on the 360.

Meelow · (10-01-2012, 10:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Metalic:

Kameo is arguably my favorite title of the 360 launch lineup, too bad we probably won't get a sequel :(

They where developing Kameo 2 but Microsoft cancelled it, apparently it was going to have a more realistic look (at least that's what I heard over the rumors).

Het_Nkik · (10-01-2012, 10:46 PM)

I think I played this at E3 2004. I remember fighting a graphically impressive giant tree or something. And maybe the tree had boxing gloves.

Does any of this sound right? I never played the retail release of Kameo.

Don't have time to watch the videos right now.

Mikey Jr. · (10-01-2012, 10:48 PM)

Hey guys, remember THIS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kInzteQhbf8&feature=plcp

I swore to myself that the day that game was released, I would buy an Xbox.

The fuck happened?

Borman · (10-01-2012, 10:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Het_Nkik:

I think I played this at E3 2004. I remember fighting a graphically impressive giant tree or something. And maybe the tree had boxing gloves.

Does any of this sound right? I never played the retail release of Kameo.

Don't have time to watch the videos right now.

I know it was on display at e3, so it wouldn't be surprising.

Mihael Mello Keehl · (10-01-2012, 10:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Het_Nkik:

I think I played this at E3 2004. I remember fighting a graphically impressive giant tree or something. And maybe the tree had boxing gloves.

Does any of this sound right? I never played the retail release of Kameo.

Don't have time to watch the videos right now.

Sounds right, you had the boxing gloves though not the tree.

jediyoshi · (10-01-2012, 10:50 PM)

Damn, that folliage

Callo Merlose · (10-01-2012, 10:51 PM)

Originally Posted by _woLf:

I still want a sequel to this game :(

Get the Uno deck, it's the best one.

Metalic · (10-01-2012, 10:51 PM)

Originally Posted by Mikey Jr.:

Hey guys, remember THIS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kInzteQhbf8&feature=plcp

I swore to myself that the day that game was released, I would buy an Xbox.

The fuck happened?

It was canceled.

Always-honest · (10-01-2012, 10:52 PM)

Such horrible art-direction. I can't stand it if people think this game looks great.

yn-neko hates a cat · (10-01-2012, 10:52 PM)

Originally Posted by Metalic:

Kameo is arguably my favorite title of the 360 launch lineup, too bad we probably won't get a sequel :(

Those words hurt so much because it's probably true. I would love to see sequal but it'll likely never happen with in-house Rare. I'd want to say that poorer games have gotten multiple sequals. Can't MS sub it out?

Sviatoslav · (10-01-2012, 10:54 PM)

Looks very impressive for the Xbox. And Kameo probably ended being the best looking launch title for the 360 as well.

J. M. Romeo · 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by EatinOlives:

Kameo doesn't actually look that bad for a launch title. I think it's the best looking of the bunch, actually.

On par with PGR3, I would say.

At least, those were the two that impressed me the most until I got Geometry Wars and started playing something.

Anyway, it really looks great. The Xbox was indeed a fat beast of a machine.

Grisby · (10-01-2012, 11:01 PM)

They have some footage of Perfect Dark Zero running on the Xbox too. Rare used to consist of a bunch of wizards.

Kameo's throne room on the 360 blew my mind back at launch. All those little light particles.

Borman · (10-01-2012, 11:02 PM)

Originally Posted by Grisby:

They have some footage of Perfect Dark Zero running on the Xbox too. Rare used to consist of a bunch of wizards.

Kameo's throne room on the 360 blew my mind back at launch. All those little light particles.

Perfect Dark is on the list of things I need to get next. Happy with Kameo though :P

Grisby · (10-01-2012, 11:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Borman:

Perfect Dark is on the list of things I need to get next. Happy with Kameo though :P

Heh. Liked the write-up. I bookmarked your site too.

Alchemy · (10-01-2012, 11:11 PM)

Xbox games looked so damn good that generation.

Celine · (10-01-2012, 11:17 PM)

Good work, Borman.
Looks great (and so N64/Nintendo/Retro too).

clutch.as.it.gets. · (10-01-2012, 11:18 PM)

Originally Posted by Mihael Mello Keehl:

Doesnt look bad almost looks the same as the 360 one since the assets are the same.

The assets are not the same. The 360 version has much, much better textures and shaders.

Waaghals · (10-01-2012, 11:22 PM)

That was unreal!

Very closely comparable to the X360-version, which still is held up as one of the better looking launch titles.

diamount · (10-01-2012, 11:25 PM)

Originally Posted by EatinOlives:

Kameo doesn't actually look that bad for a launch title. I think it's the best looking of the bunch, actually.

Oh yeah, I mean when compared to 5 years down the line. It makes sense considering they are likely rushing the game out to meet the deadline. Wasn't Perfect Dark Zero also originally an Xbox title?

Borman · (10-01-2012, 11:27 PM)

Originally Posted by diamount:

Oh yeah, I mean when compared to 5 years down the line. It makes sense considering they are likely rushing the game out to meet the deadline. Wasn't Perfect Dark Zero also originally an Xbox title?

Yep. Well, actually both these games started out on the Gamecube before migrating to the Xbox (and the 360)

Mihael Mello Keehl · (10-01-2012, 11:28 PM)

Originally Posted by clutch.as.it.gets.:

The assets are not the same. The 360 version has much, much better textures and shaders.

Apart from the shading and textures they look to close to not be the same imo.

Atolm · (10-02-2012, 12:41 AM)

Seems the same engine as the one used in Conker.

legacyzero · (10-02-2012, 12:54 AM)

Damn, Borman, where do you dig this shit up? LOL

Doffen · (10-02-2012, 12:56 AM)

Originally Posted by Metalic:

Kameo is arguably my favorite title of the 360 launch lineup, too bad we probably won't get a sequel :(

Same here :(

tarheel91 · (10-02-2012, 12:58 AM)

Originally Posted by VindicatorZ:

Wow, The Xbox 1 was definitely in a league of it's own in that generation.

Err, Xbox definitely had some pretty games for the generation, but to try to and say it was in a league of its own and to use this Kameo footage as evidence seems like a big stretch. Plenty of GC games looked prettier than this:

Razek · (10-02-2012, 01:13 AM)

Originally Posted by tarheel91:

Err, Xbox definitely had some pretty games for the generation, but to try to and say it was in a league of its own and to use this Kameo footage as evidence seems like a big stretch. Plenty of GC games looked prettier than this:

The graphical and geometrical complexities in that first cameo screen are far superior to the one you posted. I'm not going to say anything on the quality of the games. That is my analysis on a screen vs. screen comparison.

jello44 · (10-02-2012, 01:18 AM)

Originally Posted by Mikey Jr.:

Hey guys, remember THIS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kInzteQhbf8&feature=plcp

I swore to myself that the day that game was released, I would buy an Xbox.

The fuck happened?

From what I remember, Level-5 and Microsoft had a huge falling out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Fantasy_Live_Online

chertipros · (10-02-2012, 01:19 AM)

Originally Posted by Razek:

The graphical and geometrical complexities in that first cameo screen are far superior to the one you posted. I'm not going to say anything on the quality of the games. That is my analysis on a screen vs. screen comparison.

To be fair, this was a gamecube game originally and even then it looked pretty similar visually

GitarooMan · (10-02-2012, 01:20 AM)

Originally Posted by Razek:

The graphical and geometrical complexities in that first cameo screen are far superior to the one you posted. I'm not going to say anything on the quality of the games. That is my analysis on a screen vs. screen comparison.

It doesn't really matter anyway because Conker Live and Reloaded, an actual released game, is evidence enough that Xbox was significantly more powerful than GC and PS2.

Razek · 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by chertipros:

To be fair, this was a gamecube game originally and even then it looked pretty similar visually

I have no qualms with that. Again, it was a screen by screen comparison. I personally think some of those images in the op are incredibly impressive for what any console could do last generation.

Edit: I should say, I wasn't arguing his hypothesis about the gamecube. Just that his screen was better than the OP ones.

The Mana Legend · (10-02-2012, 01:27 AM)

Doesn't look that good.

Persona7 · (10-02-2012, 01:29 AM)

I wish I could play the Xbox version, it looks amazing.

Maxrunner · (10-02-2012, 01:30 AM)

Wasnt the Gamecube footage of perfectdark?

Borman · (10-02-2012, 01:43 AM)

Originally Posted by legacyzero:

Damn, Borman, where do you dig this shit up? LOL

For this one, someone found it on a debug kit. I was going to have to spend some big money to get it from someone else, this worked much better though.

Originally Posted by Persona7:

I wish I could play the Xbox version, it looks amazing.

;)

rjc571 · (10-02-2012, 01:49 AM)

Originally Posted by GitarooMan:

It doesn't really matter anyway because Conker Live and Reloaded, an actual released game, is evidence enough that Xbox was significantly more powerful than GC and PS2.

I dunno about that, Conker didn't seem like that much of an improvement over Star Fox Adventures, especially considering SFA runs at twice the framerate and was released in the first year of the Gamecube's life.

Borman · (10-02-2012, 01:55 AM)

Gamecube screen if people aren't reading the article :

Obviously, a different art style and less complete, but still a nice reference point for the game's development.

chertipros · (10-02-2012, 01:58 AM)

Originally Posted by Borman:

Gamecube screen if people aren't reading the article :

Obviously, a different art style and less complete, but still a nice reference point for the game's development.

I stand corrected

IOnEI Falcon · (10-02-2012, 02:03 AM)

Awesome! Thank so much for all the work you put into this!

WonkersTHEWatilla · (10-02-2012, 02:04 AM)

I don't regret buying Kameo at 360 launch.

See You Next Wednesday · (10-02-2012, 02:17 AM)

Originally Posted by EatinOlives:

Kameo doesn't actually look that bad for a launch title. I think it's the best looking of the bunch, actually.

It still looks better than most games today.

24FrameDaVinci · (10-02-2012, 02:21 AM)

As far as cartoony artstyles go it still doesn't look good as the original Jak and Daxter. I remember how blown away I was when I bought it for like $4.99 at Blockbuster a few years after it came out.