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Gowans · (10-03-2012, 05:01 PM)

Battlefield 3 Mod Removes Blue Lighting & Color Grading – Lead Calls Too Colourful & Implies Bans

Video Comparison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJU-JKFPsTo

BF3 Lead Developers Comments:

Quote:

@Minusthebeats @Demize99 @zh1nt0 to colorful. Also I wouldn't use those hacks if you don't want a perm ban on your account. FYI warning.

https://twitter.com/gustavhalling/st...05004288446464

Via Reddit

What Happened to DICE and their PC/Mod scene?

VICI0US · (10-03-2012, 05:02 PM)

everyone knows colors are for children.

varying degrees of brown, grey, and black are the only acceptable colors for a mature video game.

Venfayth · 05:06 PM

I hate colors.

edit: After watching the comparison video, I can see why for a war game you'd want a more bleak feel. It just feels too bright and cheery.

edit 2: I'm torn. I'd probably like it either way.

Nabs · (10-03-2012, 05:04 PM)

to colorful

Canis lupus · (10-03-2012, 05:04 PM)

Looks like a whole different game, not sure better.

zomaha · (10-03-2012, 05:04 PM)

god, i mean just look at that, it's like playing on a rainbow

Revven · (10-03-2012, 05:04 PM)

I heard about this yesterday. It's so stupid. GGs EA & DICE

Banning or threatening to ban people because of something that is merely aesthetic is the dumbest thing ever.

Gowans · (10-03-2012, 05:04 PM)

I'm absolutely devastated I let the wrong spelling of colour side into that title :(

Shining Sunshine · (10-03-2012, 05:05 PM)

I need a mod that puts a red highlight around my enemies, so I can easily shoot them. =3

Lyphen · 05:07 PM

I'll gladly risk it. Download link?

Venfayth · (10-03-2012, 05:05 PM)

Originally Posted by Gowans:

I'm absolutely devastated I let the wrong spelling of colour side into that title :(

Nah you got it right. :p

Tunavi · (10-03-2012, 05:05 PM)

NOT MANLY ENOUGH

Lord-Audie · (10-03-2012, 05:06 PM)

Is like taking the green tinge on the matrix... feels wrong....

red731 · (10-03-2012, 05:07 PM)

Originally Posted by Nabs:

to colorful

where?

Backfoggen · (10-03-2012, 05:07 PM)

Looks oversaturated, but banning it is pretty stupid.

xclaw · (10-03-2012, 05:07 PM)

I actually prefer it with more colours.... Hmm, if only there was a way to play it legally this way.

dark10x · (10-03-2012, 05:07 PM)

I'll be honest, I think that mod ruins the visuals. It almost makes the game look as if it is being viewed through an editor. I don't like it one bit.

That said, it should be an available option for people if they choose without worrying about their accounts.

DMPrince · (10-03-2012, 05:07 PM)

they racist.

Corky · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

Originally Posted by red731:

where?

Colorful, Wisconsin

TheSeks · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

Goddamn, it looks so clear and then OH GOD THE JAGGIES *bleeds out of the eyes to death* happens.

SapientWolf · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

Well that doesn't look very good. And DICE should be more worried about real hackers than people messing around with color settings.

whyman · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

I really hate DICE these days. Mods should be encouraged.

EatChildren · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

Though I'll almost always side for a full, proper colour palette versus muting all the prettiness with filters, the quality of the original texturing work is dependant on how the art director handled the texturing team.

Because it's quite probable the filtering was kept in mind right from the very start, and textures were painted unnaturally bright to grant stronger contrast once the filters were colour grading filters were over layed. If so, removing the filters does not make for a more natural looking game, but an unnaturally over bright/saturated look.

In this case I don't really know. Some shots I've seen from this look better (Caspian Border says hi), others not so much.

red731 · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

Originally Posted by Corky:

Colorful, Wisconsin

Nice.

I hope they will make ME2 colorful tho...

alterno69 · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

I like the priginal a lot more, downgrade total.

KojiKnight · (10-03-2012, 05:08 PM)

Game companies don't want their games looking cheerful at all. Seriously, I'd play like that if I played battlefield games just because I think I could actually SMILE while playing instead of feeling like I had to be super serious.

I think that's the problem with FPS in general... they take themselves WAY to seriously... artstyle plays into that heavily.

Haunted · 05:11 PM

The post-processing makes it look like a movie. Removing it should make it look like a place, but I'm not sure this mod achieves that. Looks unnatural in some instances.

Picture in the OP looks fine, though.

I'm puzzled as to why Dice would take measures against something like this?

Originally Posted by Gowans:

I'm absolutely devastated I let the wrong spelling of colour side into that title :(

You, sir, disgust me.

Nabs · (10-03-2012, 05:09 PM)

Originally Posted by red731:

where?

It was a direct quote.

Rebel Leader · (10-03-2012, 05:10 PM)

Originally Posted by Lyphen:

I'll gladly risk it. Download link?

I would too. but I don't have PC version

MiniBossBattle · (10-03-2012, 05:11 PM)

I remember learning to make skins for the desert combat mod. I wish BF3 would allow an enthusiast SDK or at least let Mods have a controlled environment to replace vehicle models with your own models. Its not about player advantage but love of the game and wanting to play with it. Some of those people end up working in the industry (including me).

Also, color is good.

red731 · (10-03-2012, 05:11 PM)

Originally Posted by Nabs:

It was a direct quote.

I know. I am always in awe when someone that high butchers englais. At least we now know that it is Wisconsin.

xclaw · (10-03-2012, 05:11 PM)

Now if there was only a way to disable the god awful lens flare sun and moon.

Nemesis121 · (10-03-2012, 05:11 PM)

Does it remove the blinding sun? otherwise don't care...

TheSeks · (10-03-2012, 05:11 PM)

Originally Posted by EatChildren:

In this case I don't really know. Some shots I've seen from this look better (Caspian Border says hi), others not so much.

WhitneyHoustonDemandsCaspianBorderAndOperationFirestormShots.gif

Parakeetman · (10-03-2012, 05:12 PM)

Would be nice if they had something that removed the horrid lense flare everywhere... That was one thing which constantly irritated me at times in BF3 MP on the 360.

Keasar · (10-03-2012, 05:12 PM)

A little too much color for my taste, but seriously DICE, permanent ban just for liking their world a little brighter?

What happened to the good old days of "Hey guys, I made a mod!" "Cool, you're hired."? Remember it DICE? What has EA done to you? :(

Dibbz · (10-03-2012, 05:13 PM)

To be fair DICE's art team handles colour and lighting really well. Taking off the colour grading doesn't automatically make the game amazing. This is not like piss filters in Grid or F1 or GTA.

Kade · (10-03-2012, 05:13 PM)

Now remove the lens flare, dust/dirt and shit smear effects. I'm playing as a human being not a camera, DICE.

SnakeswithLasers · (10-03-2012, 05:13 PM)

Whether you like it or not, should it be bannable? Does it give players an unfair advantage?

Victrix · (10-03-2012, 05:13 PM)

"Hacks" really Dice? Really?

Eat some dicks.

Nirolak · (10-03-2012, 05:14 PM)

Originally Posted by Keasar:

A little too much color for my taste, but seriously DICE, permanent ban just for liking their world a little brighter?

What happened to the good old days of "Hey guys, I made a mod!" "Cool, you're hired."? Remember it DICE? What has EA done to you? :(

I imagine the concern with mods that change effects like this is you could remove smoke or highlight enemies into obvious colors, which would actually effect balance.

Sax Russel · (10-03-2012, 05:14 PM)

This must be part of that Battlefield 3: Super Mario Galaxy 2 total conversion project.

TheSeks · (10-03-2012, 05:15 PM)

Originally Posted by SnakeswithLasers:

Whether you like it or not, should it be bannable? Does it give players an unfair advantage?

It's debatable, but I'd err on the side of "yes," only because I think the filter they have allows players to "blend in" to the environment with their chose texture for their class/soldier than this would allow. I think this would allow players to see enemies MUCH easier than with the filter on and I think that's what DICE is thinking.

It's a stupid reason to ban, yes, but I can understand their line of reasoning of "too broken" in a sense.

Edit: Beaten by Nirolak, but yeah.

KyleN · (10-03-2012, 05:15 PM)

That looks horrible. You cant just remove the blue tint and expect it to look good.

phosphor112 · (10-03-2012, 05:15 PM)

While some things look "too colorful" I think a significant toning down of that color grading would be appreciated.

I'm with Carmack when he says "whats the point in having the artists go through the time and effort into making something beautiful and then throw a bunch of piss filters on it."

Paraphrasing of course...

EDIT: Also, that "I have dust on my eyeballs" thing needs to go, it's fucking ugly.

Demon Ice · (10-03-2012, 05:15 PM)

Originally Posted by SnakeswithLasers:

Whether you like it or not, should it be bannable? Does it give players an unfair advantage?

I'd imagine it makes spotting enemies much easier, given the increased contrast.

A lot of the shots look better with the color mod but I do notice an increased aliasing and some of the textures starting to look washed out.

Sethos · (10-03-2012, 05:15 PM)

Originally Posted by Gowans:

Vollume · (10-03-2012, 05:16 PM)

"Battlefield 3 Mod Removes Blue Lighting & Color Grading – Lead Calls Too Colourful & Implies Bans"

I haven't played BF3 so I'm not sure what this means, sounds contradictory.

Deadbeat · (10-03-2012, 05:16 PM)

Originally Posted by Nirolak:

I imagine the concern with mods that change effects like this is you could remove smoke or highlight enemies into obvious colors, which would actually effect balance.

Red triangles over the heads of enemies already highlights everyone with obvious colors.

Cosmo Clock 21 · (10-03-2012, 05:17 PM)

Originally Posted by Nemesis121:

Does it remove the blinding sun? otherwise don't care...

It does, in fact, do so.