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Media Create Sales: Week 40, 2012 (Oct 01 - Oct 07)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Reality does suck, I know
Poor Vita. One positive thing this chart does show is people are willing to buy the system when desirable games are released for it. It's not a write-off just yet -- a steady stream of titles could very well inject some life into the system.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Short of the "mainline" PS3 saviors (FF, MGS, Yakuza, etc) jumping ship from PS3 to Vita, I don't see how that's possible.
Magicpaint
Member
Ridiculous opening for RE6. Hot damn.
There'll be 100,000 people flinging verbal per individual who worked on the game!
Yeah. So basically even with a whole bunch of money sunk into JRPGs on the system it took next to no effort for Sony to overtake. That's my point, I don't think they ever had a real chance.
Father_Brain
Banned
Reality does suck, I know
Poor Vita. One positive thing this chart does show is people are willing to buy the system when desirable games are released for it. It's not a write-off just yet -- a steady stream of titles could very well inject some life into the system.
That's stating the obvious, though. Even GC and 360 had their sales spike when desirable exclusives were released.
The problem is that, after the TGS showing, there's no reason to think that there's ever going to be a steady stream of decent support for the system, particularly exclusive support.
That is, indeed, the problem.
I Stalk Alone
Member
I see so the persona 4 release month. Just checked and project diva was released at the end of august I though it was the beginning of september initially. thanks for that. What would the instance of june being the best selling month for vita this year say about the current vita software situation? Should we be normally expecting its biggest month to be somewhere between oct-dec each year?
If it hasn't beaten the Atari Lynx in sales (~4 million) by February, DOA.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
If those anecdotes about huge numbers of used Vitas hold in a widespread manner...
Why did the 360 fail in Japan, anyways? My impression is that they cargo culted a bunch of big exclusive RPGs without also ensuring they got leggier exclusives to fill in the holes in between. Kinda reminds me of Vita present-day, a bit.
Damo Yoshi
Member
"We are pleased to announce the immediate successor to the PlayStation Vita... the PlayStation Portable!"
clay_ghost
Member
OldJadedGamer
Banned
So other systems timeline to reach a million are:
Vita 10 months
PS3 8 months
PS2 48 hours
I can't find the original PSP or PS1 timeframe.
28./19. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 3.813 / 1.568.788 (-24%)
Would that just be a side-effect of the fact that a new colour 3DS came out last week, so quite a few people picked up the game with their purchase? Was there a spike last week?
Canis lupus
Member
Where does it put RE6 for the biggest launch week openings for PS3?
I think it could be more related to the announcement of the new bundle with MH3 pre-installed on the 3DSLL (release: November 1st)
Gianni Merryman
Member
I think nobody can know for sure but, for the sake of discussion, I recall back in the day many were arguing that in the first place XBox360 was too much bulky - especially the first models - to appeal Japanese market.
Devilgunman
Member
Vita, so much potential wasted. I will enjoy it to the bitter end, anyway. There're still many PS1 and PSP games I wanna play on the Vita.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I don't know what it would take for an American company to be the top selling system in Japan. I don't think we will ever know. Not next gen at least as the WiiU will dominate in the region. MS trying to win Japan is just pissing in the wind.
It seems like these are new standard colors rather than being limited. If that's the case, I agree: why would any significant number of people bother? This ain't the Miku LE.
At this rate production will be so low that the colors will actually be somewhat rare, or they'll sit on shelves and collect dust long enough to be readily available after the price drop in 2013. Sure would be convenient for me if they did a red Value Pack at that point...
Since week 24 when P4G was released.
34.459
13.589
22.638
11.544
11.388
11.932
10.846
9.038
9.446
11.298
10.880
50.070
14.106
10.858
9.295
14.469
This week: 7.957
I'm not sure how the weekly average increases when it hits the lowest number in 17 weeks.
The real test when an ill received game in a major series is released isn't how well that game sells, it's how well the next game in the series does.
RE 7, Mass Effect 4, Dragon Age 3 are games to watch for this trend. Arguably you could point to FF XIII-2 or XIV as an example but those both have technicalities that don't quite follow the pattern.
RE 7, Mass Effect 4, Dragon Age 3 are games to watch for this trend. Arguably you could point to FF XIII-2 or XIV as an example but those both have technicalities that don't quite follow the pattern.
Hunting big exclusives didn't work for them at all, I'm not sure why you think they should pursue it. Part of that is because they were really bad at picking winners but there's two bigger issues at play:
a) Moral hazard; Rolling up and hatting an exclusive just screams to the rest of the industry "hold out for a better offer from these guys"
b) In a market as used-centric as Japan, if you're pushing out one big title a year and nothing else that means that the average console is spending 11 months plus collecting dust in the back of a game shop. The second shop owners lose confidence in your next hit, they drop the buyback price, and if the buyback price drops that's a bunch of effectively console renters who just got burnt hard for trying your machine and aren't gonna be coming back.
If they had gone to the same guys and given them $2.5 million a year rather than $25 million for one year, they'd have a lot more solid position. Instead, they lit fat stacks of Benjamins on fire, realized what they'd done, ran around in a panic because the budget sky was falling, and cut the middle-to-low tier staff that could've handed them a decent market position loose so they could go keep the PSP propped up instead.
Spieler Eins
Member
But RE5 and Operation Raccoon City have already been bad games.
Magicpaint
Member
Come on now. RE5 is hardly a bad game.
This.
I mean, I wouldn't call RE5 bad, personally, but it's on the same level as RE6.
MrCookiepants
Member
I believe it's second, sandwiched between FFXIII and FFXIII-2.
It's funny how Resident Evil is literally the only big third party console franchise to see growth in Japan this gen despite the westernization.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I don't know about that "pardner"
Spieler Eins
Member
It's the equivalent of a Chinese RE4 ripoff.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
AranhaHunter
Banned
PS3 took that long to get to 1 million? Never knew that. How long did it take the 360 and the Nintendo and Sega systems? I don't think the Xbox ever got there.
Lord_Byron28
Member
Do we know if media create will count these bundles in the software sales? Id be curious how these bundles sell.
I enjoyed RE6 a lot more than RE5, tbh.
Canis lupus
Member
Tales of Xilia and GT5 maybe?
Magicpaint
Member
I agree that it does ripoff RE4, but it's taking its template off of a great game
I think mediocre is a bit more appropriate since it is mechanically still a very sound game. I personally enjoy it in coop a lot.OldJadedGamer
Banned
StickSoldier
Member
Um wow, I didn't think RE6 was that popular in Japan.
Yeah, RE5 is considered an awful game, especially here on GAF, so I don't understand why some of you are making excuses. Maybe people like RE6 for being RE6? It's not like only quality sells.
If you mean regularly by those 2-3 weeks it was actually above it, sure. Most of that occurred in the 3rd year of the 360 which was meaningless considering they didn't have any significant exclusive software left after that. There was no challenge at all so don't make it sound bigger than it really was.
Anyways, RE6 numbers are huge! I was expecting closer to ~500k combined for the opening but it blew away those expectations.
I didn't say they should hunt big exclusives. I said they should get cross platform games but otherwise stop trying to pander to the traditional japanese taste. Because that's a loosing battle; they have no chance of luring away Final Fantasy fans with an exclusive Star Ocean or a new IP, certainly not while FF isn't cross platform. But they might be able to lure the CoD players and to some of the RE players to their platform by promoting Halo and GoW more, which is games they already have. It's no going to make them "win" japan but I think they could do a bit better next gen with less effort