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Joseph Flemming
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(10-15-2012, 12:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by cosmicblizzard

So is Sora done if Sakurai joins EAD?

Yes Sora Ltd was formed to produce just one game, Kid Icarus Uprising. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Sora
I expect great things from this restructuring.
Edit: double post, sorry iPhone went crazy.
Last edited by Joseph Flemming; 10-15-2012 at 12:34 PM. Reason: iPhone dbl posted.
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(10-15-2012, 12:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by Joseph Flemming

Yes Sora Ltd was formed to produce just one game, Kid Icarus Uprising. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Sora
I expect great things from this restructuring.

That's not Sora Ltd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sora_Ltd. = Sora Ltd. =/= Project Sora
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(10-15-2012, 12:45 PM)

Originally Posted by EricDiesel

You must not know who the OP is.

Enlighten me.
mantidor
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(10-15-2012, 12:59 PM)
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1200 devs sounds a bit excessive, even including previous staff, isn't Nintendo a company with 5000 employees globally?
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(10-15-2012, 02:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by mantidor

1200 devs sounds a bit excessive, even including previous staff, isn't Nintendo a company with 5000 employees globally?

Well according to one of the links in the previous page the new building will house 1,500 people.

So Shikamaru's information is 300 down from the reported number.
Joseph Flemming
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(10-15-2012, 02:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ookami-kun

That's not Sora Ltd.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sora_Ltd. = Sora Ltd. =/= Project Sora

I stand corrected, thank you. I think its very interesting how Masahiro Sakurai had(s) several third/second party companies putting distance between being swallowed up by Nintendo completely, I also get the feeling just when he thinks he's done Iwata keeps reeling him back.. just my observation.
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Originally Posted by Joseph Flemming

I stand corrected, thank you. I think its very interesting how Masahiro Sakurai had(s) several third/second party companies putting distance between being swallowed up by Nintendo completely, I also get the feeling just when he thinks he's done Iwata keeps reeling him back.. just my observation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU
metalslimer
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(10-15-2012, 02:57 PM)
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Shikamaru never said any of the stuff in the OP was 100% going to happen. That's why it says "expected" changes. He definitely knows at least a few people in EAD based on previous knowledge he's given.
SquiddyCracker
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(10-15-2012, 03:11 PM)
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I think that Nintendo will give Retro free reign for at least one game (more so if said game turns out to be a success), aimed at capturing the "hardcores" in the NA and EU market.
chris3116
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(10-15-2012, 03:17 PM)
If it's all true what Shikamaru said, Iwata will comment this thing very soon. If Miyamoto is going to be released of his function of EAD general manager by the end of December 2012, Iwata will announce this at the next investors meeting.

As for the restruction, it will be made at the beginning of the next fiscal year. The restruction seems to be very big and I don't think the company wants a panic mode for the shareholders this fiscal year.
The difference with Shikamaru Ninja's speculation vs. other speculation is that his is guided from the confidential information he has that can't be made public (see facebook post earlier). Could someone have made the OP with the publicly available information? Sure. Could they have made completely different points with the publicly available information and be vastly off-the-mark from reality? Sure. Even if Shikamaru Ninja's OP uses data from open sources, it's the conclusions based on those open sources that should be paid attention to, since those conclusions are most probably guided by insider information that he can't directly share. ;)

Gotta learn how to read between the lines, people. :P
Valjean Lafitte
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(10-15-2012, 04:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheGrimeyGrimReaper

Enlighten me.

This was discussed on the last page. You are clearly not keeping up with this thread.
Shikamaru Ninja
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(10-15-2012, 05:14 PM)

Originally Posted by metalslimer

Shikamaru never said any of the stuff in the OP was 100% going to happen. That's why it says "expected" changes. He definitely knows at least a few people in EAD based on previous knowledge he's given.

Clearly I'm just writing speculative conjecture here. Not even a Nintendo employee could confidently tell you what the company was going to do six or twelve months from now. There are some presumptuous replies that I'm not sure really understood the notion I was getting at. I'm not claiming anything is factual events that will take place in the future, just again conjecture on my end. All of it based on previous occurrences and hours on end of wasting my life investigating useless information! The building could catch fire and the restructure ma be canceled, Miyamoto may subject himself to life extension and continue his R&D position for another 10 years, Sakurai may join Namco after SSB4. All in the realm of possibility.

I have several friends in the industry of Nintendo (America and Japan). But my communication revolves mainly on asking their contributions to revealing past works, for my work in progress Kyoto Report Database. If you want to know who designed NES Pinball, Nesters Funky Bowling, or Famicom Grand Prix, I contributed these things after researching and checking in with the creators who sometimes reply or sometimes don't remember!
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(10-15-2012, 05:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shikamaru Ninja

Clearly I'm just writing speculative conjecture here. Not even a Nintendo employee could confidently tell you what the company was going to do six or twelve months from now. There are some presumptuous replies that I'm not sure really understood the notion I was getting at. I'm not claiming anything is factual events that will take place in the future, just again conjecture on my end. All of it based on previous occurrences and hours on end of wasting my life investigating useless information! The building could catch fire and the restructure ma be canceled, Miyamoto may subject himself to life extension and continue his R&D position for another 10 years, Sakurai may join Namco after SSB4. All in the realm of possibility.

I have several friends in the industry of Nintendo (America and Japan). But my communication revolves mainly on asking their contributions to revealing past works, for my work in progress Kyoto Report Database. If you want to know who designed NES Pinball, Nesters Funky Bowling, or Famicom Grand Prix, I contributed these things after researching and checking in with the creators who sometimes reply or sometimes don't remember!

In the Shikamaru Ninja we trust (well at least I do).
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(10-15-2012, 11:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shikamaru Ninja

Clearly I'm just writing speculative conjecture here. Not even a Nintendo employee could confidently tell you what the company was going to do six or twelve months from now. There are some presumptuous replies that I'm not sure really understood the notion I was getting at. I'm not claiming anything is factual events that will take place in the future, just again conjecture on my end. All of it based on previous occurrences and hours on end of wasting my life investigating useless information! The building could catch fire and the restructure ma be canceled, Miyamoto may subject himself to life extension and continue his R&D position for another 10 years, Sakurai may join Namco after SSB4. All in the realm of possibility.

I have several friends in the industry of Nintendo (America and Japan). But my communication revolves mainly on asking their contributions to revealing past works, for my work in progress Kyoto Report Database. If you want to know who designed NES Pinball, Nesters Funky Bowling, or Famicom Grand Prix, I contributed these things after researching and checking in with the creators who sometimes reply or sometimes don't remember!

I know that you are making point of not predicting the future. One thing that you mention is something that I hope not happening anytime soon.

I don't want to see Sakurai joining Namco-Bandai. I prefer him to stay in Nintendo's hands, because that's where he would shined the best.
Schnei871
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(10-16-2012, 12:06 AM)
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Sounds great! Bring on the games and hopefully new IPs
gamergirly
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(11-28-2012, 01:02 AM)
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Just a FYI bump
BY2K
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(11-28-2012, 01:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by gamergirly

Just a FYI bump

What? Why?
Meelow
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(11-28-2012, 01:14 AM)

+ Major shift in Kyoto development sources involving 3 R&D buildings

Question, what could that mean for future Nintendo hardware?
MasterSheen
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(11-28-2012, 01:17 AM)
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But it's not 2013 yet.
Gummb
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(11-28-2012, 01:21 AM)
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Originally Posted by MasterSheen

But it's not 2013 yet.

It is almost December 2012 though, which means they are far along in the process. It will be a while before we actually see the fruit of this labor, I think.
chertipros
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(11-28-2012, 01:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by gamergirly

Just a FYI bump

What's that?
bigtroyjon
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(11-28-2012, 01:28 AM)

Originally Posted by gamergirly

Just a FYI bump

wtf?
MDX
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(11-28-2012, 01:29 AM)
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maybe this?

By December 2012, Iwata hopes to put place a new mysterious restructure of R&D which revolves around a new Kyoto R&D building hoping to exlusively house over 1200 developers. Previously, Nintendo has its R&D split between its main Central Building and its old Kyoto Research Institute Building. It is very unclear how the third R&D building will change the dynamic in Kyoto, but Iwata has mentioned wanting to support expansion as well as efficiency.

Additionally, Nintendo has continued to expand R&D operations in its Tokyo sector. Tokyo being the largest city of Japan by far, has created a window where several veteran developers from Square, SEGA, Koei, Epoch, and Konami can easily transition to join the EAD Tokyo development section.

But alongside all the expansion in Kyoto and Tokyo, comes the biggest news that Shigeru Miyamoto is expected to leave the EAD Division most likely by December 2012.

chertipros
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(11-28-2012, 01:46 AM)
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Originally Posted by MDX

maybe this?

So december megaton ND confirmed? F* yeah
JDSN
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(11-28-2012, 01:53 AM)
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Bu-but...its not december.
Ninja Dom
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(11-28-2012, 01:56 AM)
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I've followed what Shikamaru Ninja has said on NeoGAF for years. Then it struck me.

Is he one of those last two remaining true Ninja's of Japan? His name and Nintendo connections lead me to believe this.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=501087
polyh3dron
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(11-28-2012, 01:57 AM)
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They're gearing up for Wii U Play and Wii U Music, obviously.

And one R&D group dedicated to the long awaited vitality sensor of course.
@MUWANdo
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(11-28-2012, 02:08 AM)
Why did this thread get bumped? There's no "FYI" here and nothing to corroborate most of the stuff listed in the OP--in other words, nothing's changed,
IrishNinja
(11-28-2012, 05:54 AM)
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yeah thanks for that useless FYI bump, guy

Additionally, Nintendo has continued to expand R&D operations in its Tokyo sector. Tokyo being the largest city of Japan by far, has created a window where several veteran developers from Square, SEGA, Koei, Epoch, and Konami can easily transition to join the EAD Tokyo development section.

sounds like new homes for Yu Suzuki, Sakaguchi & Yoshitaka Murayama!
man, that'd be awesome though
metalslimer
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(11-28-2012, 05:56 AM)
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If Miyamoto is stepping down as head by the end of next month it would make sense that he would see out the end of the Wii U launch across all regions.
DXB-KNIGHT
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(11-28-2012, 06:00 AM)
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This is either a useless bump or something gonna happen soon.
Log4Girlz
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(11-28-2012, 06:02 AM)
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Thanks dude. This is very timely.
Preble
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(11-28-2012, 06:11 AM)
Well I hope they already have a team working on Mario Kart Wii U. I really can't wait to see what the do with the Gamepad and the graphic could look crazy.
Exterminieren
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(11-28-2012, 11:12 AM)
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So... still no actual tangible evidence for this, then?
ScreenSplitter
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(11-28-2012, 11:17 AM)
It's a shame that "Phasing out the Wii and DS" isn't one of the bullet points.
mclem
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(11-28-2012, 11:22 AM)

Originally Posted by chertipros

So december megaton ND confirmed? F* yeah

I demand Iwata dressed as Santa.
LeleSocho
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(11-28-2012, 11:24 AM)
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thank you for the bump, i totally forgot about this.
chris3116
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(01-03-2013, 08:40 PM)
Sorry for the bump but I don't know where to ask this.

Shikamaru Ninja, I have a question for you because you seem to have contacts. Is this supposed restructure still going to happen at the next fiscal year? Or it's still a rumor or it's completely debunked to be false. I was thinking about this restructure that Nintendo didn't announce anything on both Wii U and 3DS for awhile.
Shadow Hog
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(01-03-2013, 08:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by chris3116

I was thinking about this restructure that Nintendo didn't announce anything on both Wii U and 3DS for awhile.

Actually, that's been the new normal for Nintendo for many years now, since sometime during the Wii era. Now they don't announce games until they're, like, half a year away from projected completion. (With some exceptions; Kid Icarus Uprising was meant to be a launch title, but didn't come out for nearly a year.)
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(01-03-2013, 08:53 PM)
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Originally Posted by Shadow Hog

Actually, that's been the new normal for Nintendo for many years now, since sometime during the Wii era. Now they don't announce games until they're, like, half a year away from projected completion. (With some exceptions; Kid Icarus Uprising was meant to be a launch title, but didn't come out for nearly a year.)

Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon would love to talk to you...
Shadow Hog
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(01-03-2013, 09:01 PM)
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I can't even remember when that was announced. Haven't been paying much attention to it. Just file it under "some exceptions", I guess?
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(01-03-2013, 09:32 PM)
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Satoru Iwata is the one who needs to step down, really. His "play it safe, play it cheap" strategy has reached saturation level for quite a time and it's damaging Nintendo's credibility among gamers.

Wii's heavenly sales falled apart because of his change of target audience toward casuals and completely ignoring the core audience. 3DS being priced at 250 and it's consequently price drop made Nintendo suffer losses and end, for the first time in the company's history, in an annual loss. Wii U is doing badly, it's already selling at a loss and the coming support for it isn't exciting at all.

If Iwata don't leave Nintendo and company don't take a significant change of structure and direction, I can say Nintendo's future is in serious risk.
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(01-03-2013, 09:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by TreasureHunterG

Satoru Iwata is the one who needs to step down, really. His "play it safe, play it cheap" strategy has reached saturation level for quite a time and it's damaging Nintendo's credibility among gamers.

I'd hardly call what Iwata does "playing it safe". Playing it safe would be releasing a product very similar to the competition.
@MUWANdo
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(01-03-2013, 09:36 PM)
Are any of the assertions made in this thread any more or less credible than they were however-many months ago?
The Boat
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Originally Posted by Alistair Roo

Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon would love to talk to you...

That's mostly because it suffered delays, which by definition, weren't planned.
Berg
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Originally Posted by Shadow Hog

Actually, that's been the new normal for Nintendo for many years now, since sometime during the Wii era. Now they don't announce games until they're, like, half a year away from projected completion. (With some exceptions; Kid Icarus Uprising was meant to be a launch title, but didn't come out for nearly a year.)

Miyamoto showed concept art for skyward sword e3 2009...released november 2011.
I remember that wait.
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Originally Posted by Green Slime

I'd hardly call what Iwata does "playing it safe". Playing it safe would be releasing a product very similar to the competition.

Like hardware specs and online structure? He acknowledged this was an issue with Wii and, yet, he repeats the same mistake again with Wii U.
BD1
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(01-03-2013, 09:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by TreasureHunterG

Like hardware specs and online structure? He acknowledged this was an issue with Wii and, yet, he repeats the same mistake again with Wii U.

What's wrong with the online structure?
TreasureHunterG
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(01-03-2013, 09:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by BD1

What's wrong with the online structure?


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