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Meus Renaissance
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(10-19-2012, 07:44 PM)
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It doesn't matter whether you're into cars or not, at some point or another, you've seen a 'concept' car design that, arguably, has looked more futuristic than what you've glimpsed of even in science fiction films. You're impressed that it isn't just a drawing but rather a physical object complete with the brand's insignia; it's actually real, you think to yourself. Let's look at some of these designs by beginning with perhaps the most talked about.

1. Chevy Volt


Let's take the case of the Chevrolet Volt. At the 2007 Detroit Auto Show, this was the car of the show, green or otherwise. Heck, it's one of only two recent concept vehicles on Wikipedia's list of "Notable Concept Cars" (the other is the Holden Efijy). The Volt concept was muscular, aggressive and had this amazing thing called a plug-in hybrid drivetrain. The PHEV powerplant wasn't unique to the Volt, but it wasn't available in any production vehicle at the time (still isn't). Since General Motors announced soon after showing off the car that it would go into production, the preview that people saw at the show (above) needed to somehow morph into a vehicle that could actually go into production (below). Many, many changes were made, but there are vital clues in the production version that were carried over from the concept model. The thin side mirrors got a bit taller, but they still have a skinny yellow light on them. The blades on the wheels remained, mostly, intact. And the powertrain, of course, is still there. Not everyone liked the way the production model turned out – it was the concept that got people excited, after all – but production versions are almost always toned down from their concept forefathers.
What did they turn out to look like when all was said and done?



I know what you're thinking.



It isn't a new trend by all means. Take for instance the 1958 Ford Nucleon


What's under the hood or available in the cabin can be just as wild as the exterior shell. One of the most famous concept cars is the Ford Nucleon, which was to use a radioactive core powertrain and could go a theoretical 5,000 miles before needing a recharge. The concept was never explored for production at any great length, but when we're talking about reasons to make a concept car, the Nucleon stands as a great example of what's possible.
The Mercedes BIOME, for instance, looks ridiculously gorgeous and their functionality seems incredible. But in many ways it reads like the wet dream of a car enthusiast because I'm not convinced any of these 'concepts' do, or will, actually come to reality. The article I've been quoting above reasons the intent behind these concept designs and their public unveiling is to simply get journalists talking about something. To hype them up. But ifs also a realisation that these things are never going to get made, whats the point of paying any attention to them?

What is the point of concept designs?

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/01/07...-concept-cars/
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Kinitari
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(10-19-2012, 07:49 PM)
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I guess there is a disconnect between what someone conceives (concept car) and what is economical, practical or just applicable to the real world. Concept cars are wishful, but they're still interesting to think about.

Regardless - major manufacturer concept cars are boring, even the 'futuristic' looking ones. The ideas tend to just be 'make it look like a blob of mercury that is moving really really fast'.

I think what's more productive are concept cars that REALLY look outside of the box, and start considering upcoming tech, how it will integrate with cars and how that might change how we look at cars - for example:



A car that's more like a family room on wheels, and drives itself.
Al-ibn Kermit
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(10-19-2012, 07:50 PM)
I wish GM made the Cadillac 16. Did it ever get past fiberglass golf cart stage?
Dishwalla
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(10-19-2012, 07:51 PM)
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Out of those reasons, to get attention. Everybody loves cool, futuristic cars. Back in the 50s and 60s it was huge, from Bill Cushenberry to Ed "Big Daddy" Roth.
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(10-19-2012, 07:51 PM)
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I find concept for volt ugly. production one is practical design.
Forearms
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(10-19-2012, 07:54 PM)
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The concept Volt looks more like the Camaro with the low roofline and those skinnier mirrors. The low roofline isn't practical for passengers in the back seat. I've had a couple 6' guys in the back of my Camaro and they had to bend their heads down to keep from touching the ceiling.
Ovid
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(10-19-2012, 07:54 PM)
Volt concept would look terrible as a production vehicle.

Pictures don't do the Volt justice. It looks gorgeous in person.
commedieu
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(10-19-2012, 07:55 PM)
Concept cars are to get people excited about the direction that the company is going. Not really what its literally going to look like. Ideas and things that they put into the concept, sometimes make it. Be it just wheel design, or tail-lights.

Cars are all unfortunately designed by a committee. Very rarely does a car go from idea, to paper, to production. I think rare instances of this happening are in the Super Car world. Like the Zonda , Saleen S7, or the Ultima GTR... Some things would be too expensive, others, not practical.

Its weird, because why do you want people to get excited about the direction your'e going, only to molest and spit on it later..?

I just like that Japanese car makers have realized that you can have amazingly cool cars, that are affordable. It doesn't cost more to design something pleasing to the eye... GM.
Forearms
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Originally Posted by tarius1210

Volt concept would look terrible as a production vehicle.

Pictures don't do the Volt justice. It looks gorgeous in person.

This as well. There's a family with a black Volt in my neighborhood... looks like they got the top line trim as well. IMO it's the best looking hybrid sedan out there right now.
AstroNut325
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(10-19-2012, 07:58 PM)
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Slap me around and call me Suzy! I prefer the production Volt over the concept.
zephervack
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(10-19-2012, 07:59 PM)
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Best concept car

Lord Error
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(10-19-2012, 08:01 PM)

Originally Posted by Kinitari

A car that's more like a family room on wheels, and drives itself.

That sort of thing is cool, but I keep saying, to get there we'll need a basically ideal road infrastructure. No potholes, no sharp turns, no sharp lane changes to be ever needed. Otherwise, sitting upright, facing front, with seat belts is actually more comfortable, not to mention safer.
GuitarAtomik
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(10-19-2012, 08:01 PM)
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This always pisses me off. I fully understand that the concept version has to change to fit safety regulations etc but it annoys me that they show these fully functional versions off with no intent of ever building it as is.
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(10-19-2012, 08:02 PM)
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pure sex. if it looks anything like this when it comes out, I would totally buy it. If i had $100k lying around :(
FelixOrion
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(10-19-2012, 08:02 PM)
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Originally Posted by Jason Raize '75 - '04

It isn't a new trend by all means. Take for instance the 1958 Ford Nucleon


What's under the hood or available in the cabin can be just as wild as the exterior shell. One of the most famous concept cars is the Ford Nucleon, which was to use a radioactive core powertrain and could go a theoretical 5,000 miles before needing a recharge. The concept was never explored for production at any great length, but when we're talking about reasons to make a concept car, the Nucleon stands as a great example of what's possible.
The Mercedes BIOME, for instance, looks ridiculously gorgeous and their functionality seems incredible. But in many ways it reads like the wet dream of a car enthusiast because I'm not convinced any of these 'concepts' do, or will, actually come to reality. The article I've been quoting above reasons the intent behind these concept designs and their public unveiling is to simply get journalists talking about something. To hype them up. But ifs also a realisation that these things are never going to get made, whats the point of paying any attention to them?

What is the point of concept designs?

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/01/07...-concept-cars/

I want a Ford Nucleon :(
CrankyJay
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(10-19-2012, 08:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by zephervack

Best concept car

Looks like it's straight out of Tron.
Soul Beat
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(10-19-2012, 08:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by FelixOrion

I want a Ford Nucleon :(

So do I, man. So do I.
Pagusas
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(10-19-2012, 08:07 PM)
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wasnt the Volt Concept car completely impracticable because it failed all its wind tunnel test? I could have sworn I read a full right up on how the car's original design was one of the least aerodynamic designs ever made and had to be completely thrown out.


http://autos.sympatico.ca/best-worst...nd-ugly/01#glr Lots to look at there :)
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Aguirre
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Originally Posted by FelixOrion

I want a Ford Nucleon :(

looks like something straight outta fallout3
Dark Octave
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Originally Posted by sarcastor



pure sex. if it looks anything like this when it comes out, I would totally buy it. If i had $100k lying around :(

This is not a car.

This is a machine.
FelixOrion
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(10-19-2012, 08:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aguirre

looks like something straight outta fallout3

The cars in Fallout 3 and New Vegas were based on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon
Kabouter
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(10-19-2012, 08:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Al-ibn Kermit

I wish GM made the Cadillac 16. Did it ever get past fiberglass golf cart stage?

They made, what was as far as I know, a fully functioning Cadillac Sixteen, with engine and everything. They just didn't think it would sell I guess.
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Originally Posted by zephervack

Best concept car

Looks awful from the sides.

Dark Octave
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(10-19-2012, 08:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Twenty7KVN

Looks awful from the sides.

Tugatrix
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(10-19-2012, 08:14 PM)
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Citroen GT Concept
ascii42
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(10-19-2012, 08:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Al-ibn Kermit

I wish GM made the Cadillac 16. Did it ever get past fiberglass golf cart stage?

James May drove one on an episode of Top Gear.

Originally Posted by Kabouter

They made, what was as far as I know, a fully functioning Cadillac Sixteen, with engine and everything. They just didn't think it would sell I guess.

They actually were very close to putting it out for sale, from what I've heard. I'd guess money issues were the main problem. It's a shame. Cadillac's been without a proper flagship sedan for far too long.

Hopefully something comes out of the Cadillac Ciel

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SouthernDragon
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(10-19-2012, 08:17 PM)
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I remember reading here on GAF that the superwealthy actually purchase these concept cars.
zephervack
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(10-19-2012, 08:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by SouthernDragon

I remember reading here on GAF that the superwealthy actually purchase these concept cars.

As statues I guess, since you cant drive most on public roads.
speculawyer
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(10-19-2012, 08:19 PM)
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I hate concept cars. They are nothing but a cocktease.

Show me what you want to build, not something that you'll never build.
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(10-19-2012, 08:19 PM)
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Thank god they changed the Volt. The production version is 1000x sexier, even if it's a bit chubby.
ascii42
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(10-19-2012, 08:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by speculawyer

I hate concept cars. They are nothing but a cocktease.

Show me what you want to build, not something that you'll never build.

Some are better than others. The current Camaro looks more or less exactly like the concept, besides the changes necessary to make it road legal.

Concept:

Production:

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Arc07
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I'm a huge fan of when the production model is pretty damn close to the concept. A good example is the CTS Coupe.


Concept


Production (Standard)


Production (V)

ascii42
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(10-19-2012, 08:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by PaladinsArc

I'm a huge fan of when the production model is pretty damn close to the concept. A good example is the CTS Coupe.

The Coupe, particularly in V form, has really grown on me. It's still awkward at certain angles, but at others, it's stunning. It's also tough to argue with a supercharged 6.2L V8.

But I'd still get the wagon.
Router
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(10-19-2012, 08:33 PM)
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The Toyota GT86/FR-S had a great couple of concept designs. Then they release the production design and overnight it went from awesome futureistic Toyota to something that looked like a late 90's Celica.
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(10-19-2012, 08:34 PM)
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Originally Posted by sarcastor



pure sex. if it looks anything like this when it comes out, I would totally buy it. If i had $100k lying around :(

I almost forgot, isn't the low end $60k?

That's doable if you bring a bag lunch to work for a few years.
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Originally Posted by Blablurn

First thing I thought of.
yn-neko hates a cat
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(10-19-2012, 08:36 PM)
I imagine the example in the OP would have extremely poor visibility :(
Arc07
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Originally Posted by Dark Octave

I almost forgot, isn't the low end $60k?

I've read on a few websites that it's expected to be priced about the same as an Audi R8. So roughly around the $150k mark.
Router
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One of the reasons i picked My current car (Hyundai Veloster+) was due to how close the design stayed to the original concept.
Arc07
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(10-19-2012, 08:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Router

One of the reasons i picked My current car (Hyundai Veloster+) was due to how close the design stayed to the original concept.

IMO the Veloster is a great example of the production car looking better than the concept.
SquiddyCracker
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(10-19-2012, 08:43 PM)
Heh, by the time I actually get a license (I have literally no need of a car right now) I'll probably just buy myself a self-driving car.
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Originally Posted by sarcastor



pure sex. if it looks anything like this when it comes out, I would totally buy it. If i had $100k lying around :(

You know they're gonna fuck it up
dc89
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Originally Posted by zephervack

Best concept car

You can drive this on Gran Turismo 5, pretty sure I have it.

Mazda also do amazing concept sketches:

Piercedveil
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(10-19-2012, 08:48 PM)
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Originally Posted by sarcastor

I'm really not a "car guy," but man, I'd love to drive that thing.
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Originally Posted by crazy monkey

I find concept for volt ugly. production one is practical design.

Same. The concept was so, so ugly.
Dark Octave
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Originally Posted by PaladinsArc

I've read on a few websites that it's expected to be priced about the same as an Audi R8. So roughly around the $150k mark.

That's a shame. There is a market for cars with an exotic body styling but with a standard V6/V8 engine and price.

Sucks that a lot of people are stuck with having to put a kit on a Honda Civic for an exotic look.
mingus
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(10-19-2012, 08:54 PM)
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Is this thread now the post-your-favorite-concept thread?

Alfa Romeo Pandion




Mostly for dat ass

Arc07
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dat alfa

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