dat balanceSince our launch 36 hours ago, we've already had 15,986 games played!
I feel like the competitive scene shows a skewed balance though. Early Onos is kinda OP from what I understand. Also some rooms like Cargo on Veil need someway to make them not so jetpack friendly. A hive in Cargo is deady bones to JP rushes usuallyOriginally Posted by jediyoshi
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Originally Posted by TheApatheticOne
Still very interested in a four pack as well! Please PM me.
Get a room you two!Any 4-packs going down? I'd love to get in on one
Crazy, I think out of all of the matches I've played yesterday, Aliens only won once and the team was obviously stacked with beta vets or NS1 players.Originally Posted by jediyoshi
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How receptive is the community to new players that have no idea what they are doing? Obviously you will have your assholes and what not, just curious.Originally Posted by jaundicejuice
Crazy, I think out of all of the matches I've played yesterday, Aliens only won once and the team was obviously stacked with beta vets or NS1 players.
Not one toxic asshole yet in my experience, everyone's been super helpful and there are numerous videos in the tutorial section. There's one seven minute video that will give you a basic overview of the entire game that will allow you to dive into the fps portion of the game and start having fun.Originally Posted by TheApatheticOne
How receptive is the community to new players that have no idea what they are doing? Obviously you will have your assholes and what not, just curious.
I just wish my mic worked, it's hard to use text to communicate well.
I think this betrays GAF's self identified image as "hardcore" gamers, though.Originally Posted by Lactose_Intolerant
Considering most of the people that played half-life games are older now. Plus I can't stand what has happened to fps games being made for console 1st. People don't want to have to learn crazy new mechanics in today's age. Day of defeat and natural selection for life (+kohan).
I mean, I'm not quite sure what "hardcore" means, but surely "a love of hard games with complex, distinct mechanics" would be among the qualifications. Similar to GAF's relative disinterest in RTS games or complex strategy games a la Hearts of Iron.
GAF seems to largely prefer easier games (With occasional exceptions like Dark Souls) and games with well tred mechanics that they are already highly accustomed to. I'm not saying that's bad, but it hardly strikes me as "hardcore." Just as it's okay to only play games like Wii Sports and Plants Vs. Zombies (both of which I think are good games, personally), but self identifying as "hardcore" in those circumstances would seem odd.
In short: I don't think I quite understand what "hardcore" means anymore. Most of GAF doesn't personally strike me as such, but I apparently don't strike most of GAF that way, either.
I'm interested to see what the userbase balloons up to in the launch period and what it will look like when it contracts and settles. I'm guessing it will be on par with Day of Defeat Source.
Im still annoyed that in NS2 the Alien team needs a commander. It was always part of the fun in NS1 that you could evolve to a gorge, plant a res tower & move on, or some one who was a good at killing could use they're resources to build a hive.
Gorges arent as much use as they were before :(
They have their place believe me.Getting addicted to this game again. After years of playing NS I didnt want it to happen. but oh well!
Im still annoyed that in NS2 the Alien team needs a commander. It was always part of the fun in NS1 that you could evolve to a gorge, plant a res tower & move on, or some one who was a good at killing could use they're resources to build a hive.
Gorges arent as much use as they were before :(
Don't forget. Gorge healspray aids in the building of structures. makes em build much quicker
This game is as hardcore as online mutplayer games get. Surprises me it does not have a larger GAF following.I think this betrays GAF's self identified image as "hardcore" gamers, though.
I mean, I'm not quite sure what "hardcore" means, but surely "a love of hard games with complex, distinct mechanics" would be among the qualifications. Similar to GAF's relative disinterest in RTS games or complex strategy games a la Hearts of Iron.
GAF seems to largely prefer easier games (With occasional exceptions like Dark Souls) and games with well tred mechanics that they are already highly accustomed to. I'm not saying that's bad, but it hardly strikes me as "hardcore." Just as it's okay to only play games like Wii Sports and Plants Vs. Zombies (both of which I think are good games, personally), but self identifying as "hardcore" in those circumstances would seem odd.
In short: I don't think I quite understand what "hardcore" means anymore. Most of GAF doesn't personally strike me as such, but I apparently don't strike most of GAF that way, either.
But then again... maybe not
I know they still have their uses.Originally Posted by Dictator93
They have their place believe me.
Don't forget. Gorge healspray aids in the building of structures. makes em build much quicker
Its just I miss having a commander free team, it was part of the fun of playing aliens.
I cant beleive this game isnt more popular on GAF, i really expected this thread to be 10-15 pages long by now :(I think this betrays GAF's self identified image as "hardcore" gamers, though.
I mean, I'm not quite sure what "hardcore" means, but surely "a love of hard games with complex, distinct mechanics" would be among the qualifications. Similar to GAF's relative disinterest in RTS games or complex strategy games a la Hearts of Iron.
GAF seems to largely prefer easier games (With occasional exceptions like Dark Souls) and games with well tred mechanics that they are already highly accustomed to. I'm not saying that's bad, but it hardly strikes me as "hardcore." Just as it's okay to only play games like Wii Sports and Plants Vs. Zombies (both of which I think are good games, personally), but self identifying as "hardcore" in those circumstances would seem odd.
In short: I don't think I quite understand what "hardcore" means anymore. Most of GAF doesn't personally strike me as such, but I apparently don't strike most of GAF that way, either.
Im not sure why its not
It was a long time ago since I played a game where good teamwork felt so satisfying.
I have a gift on my steam account regarding this.
Is this one game I can gift to someone. If so I will accept £12 for anyone that wants it.
PayPal only please.
Ugh, but that requires work. :(Originally Posted by Dictator93
There are a number of people in this thread and on this very page (even the previous page), looking for a 4 pack. Shoot em PM's!
Edit: Steam is blocked for me at the moment, I'll start a 4-pack buy when I get out of class in a few hours. Send me a PM if you're interested in getting in on it.
Yea. Hardcore means something completely different now. It's not about a game with complex features that require absolute cooperation with your teammates, but more about generic shooters that are defined as competitive although pretty easy to play. To me, COD isn't hardcore because it's extremely easy to do well and there's no real complexity or teamwork required. It's just a simple game that is all about the kills. I think decent MP is what "hardcore" means to people nowadays.I think this betrays GAF's self identified image as "hardcore" gamers, though.
I mean, I'm not quite sure what "hardcore" means, but surely "a love of hard games with complex, distinct mechanics" would be among the qualifications. Similar to GAF's relative disinterest in RTS games or complex strategy games a la Hearts of Iron.
GAF seems to largely prefer easier games (With occasional exceptions like Dark Souls) and games with well tred mechanics that they are already highly accustomed to. I'm not saying that's bad, but it hardly strikes me as "hardcore." Just as it's okay to only play games like Wii Sports and Plants Vs. Zombies (both of which I think are good games, personally), but self identifying as "hardcore" in those circumstances would seem odd.
In short: I don't think I quite understand what "hardcore" means anymore. Most of GAF doesn't personally strike me as such, but I apparently don't strike most of GAF that way, either.
To me, games like this one are the definition of hardcore.
It's 25 duckets and it's releasing right around the time that Hawken, Mechwarrior and Planetside 2 are going open beta. Also, every game ever is coming out now before Halo 4 and BLOPS 2 hit.I know they still have their uses.
Its just I miss having a commander free team, it was part of the fun of playing aliens.
I cant beleive this game isnt more popular on GAF, i really expected this thread to be 10-15 pages long by now :(
Im not sure why its not
I plan on picking this up later down the line. I like the concept but it sounds like it needs a few performance patches.
Performance has drastically improved since beta. I say that as someone who would've made this same post up until a day before release. Sure it could always be improved but the game is perfectly playable (40-60fps) right now, and that's at max with a 570. It's better than Planetside 2 is doing anyway. It really is a huge breath of fresh air compared to all the other shooters outOriginally Posted by SapientWolf
I plan on picking this up later down the line. I like the concept but it sounds like it needs a few performance patches.
Lesson to commanders everywhere: If your entire team is on the opposite side of the map, stay in the damn chair.
hardcore, in the context of GAF or any other large videogame industry forum means enthusiast not "likes good games"I think this betrays GAF's self identified image as "hardcore" gamers, though.
I mean, I'm not quite sure what "hardcore" means, but surely "a love of hard games with complex, distinct mechanics" would be among the qualifications. Similar to GAF's relative disinterest in RTS games or complex strategy games a la Hearts of Iron.
GAF seems to largely prefer easier games (With occasional exceptions like Dark Souls) and games with well tred mechanics that they are already highly accustomed to. I'm not saying that's bad, but it hardly strikes me as "hardcore." Just as it's okay to only play games like Wii Sports and Plants Vs. Zombies (both of which I think are good games, personally), but self identifying as "hardcore" in those circumstances would seem odd.
In short: I don't think I quite understand what "hardcore" means anymore. Most of GAF doesn't personally strike me as such, but I apparently don't strike most of GAF that way, either.
Aliens now have a khammander, Heavy Armor has been placed by Exosuits, and teh game has a power system. As an exo you cannot weld or buld or be beaconed, so always be careful and don't overextend. Play the game like you did ns1 but don't be so cocky with back stepping as a marine (you can no longer bunny hop and you r speed is reduced). Also, playing as a skulk is little harder now because you are bigger and don't have focus for late game. Be ready to play even stealthier than before and using group tactics more often. For an NS1 ve t you should fair well.Originally Posted by TheFallen
Just bought it. Haven't touched Natural Selection 1 since the early beta days iirc. Any tips for getting back in on NS2?
Also, ninja power nodes and extractors all day.
The game tells you who needs ammo and who needs med packs. But it should not be that hard if he follows troops to see who needs it and who does not. Just called micro.Originally Posted by Dusk Golem
Question, my friend just started playing and tried commander a few times and is hating it initially due to things apparently other RTS' do. I don't play Commander often or RTS' often, but I am pretty sure he just isn't understanding some stuff. Does the game tell you as a commander who is asking for health and ammo when they request it, or does it not do this?
PM me if interested.
There's a certain type of hardcore pc player who tends to stick to a very small subset of competitive games. Wow players, CS players, Dota players etc.I think this betrays GAF's self identified image as "hardcore" gamers, though.
I mean, I'm not quite sure what "hardcore" means, but surely "a love of hard games with complex, distinct mechanics" would be among the qualifications. Similar to GAF's relative disinterest in RTS games or complex strategy games a la Hearts of Iron.
GAF seems to largely prefer easier games (With occasional exceptions like Dark Souls) and games with well tred mechanics that they are already highly accustomed to. I'm not saying that's bad, but it hardly strikes me as "hardcore." Just as it's okay to only play games like Wii Sports and Plants Vs. Zombies (both of which I think are good games, personally), but self identifying as "hardcore" in those circumstances would seem odd.
In short: I don't think I quite understand what "hardcore" means anymore. Most of GAF doesn't personally strike me as such, but I apparently don't strike most of GAF that way, either.
Usually these aren't the same people who come to this forum, because people who come here tend to be just playing the latest stuff, which is constantly changing.
*all gone*
I'm surprised to hear the kharaa/aliens have their own commander now. Is it similar to the marine commander?
If only there were more people like you! Too many people attempting to command without learning what even the basic structures do. Thankfully i haven't had this happen too much though.Originally Posted by jaundicejuice
Damn this is such a fun game once you get a team of people communicating and playing together. I think Once I have a better understanding of map layouts, build orders and tech trees I'm going to try my hand at being a commander, after I watch the tutorial videos. You do learn a lot by playing with good and bad commanders.
It's a whole lot less involved, they tried to make the alien commander have a mere 'influence' on the alien strategy and gameplay, rather than all out control like the marine commander. Regardless it was a necessary change for balance reasons.I'm surprised to hear the kharaa/aliens have their own commander now. Is it similar to the marine commander?
I think this betrays GAF's self identified image as "hardcore" gamers, though.
I mean, I'm not quite sure what "hardcore" means, but surely "a love of hard games with complex, distinct mechanics" would be among the qualifications. Similar to GAF's relative disinterest in RTS games or complex strategy games a la Hearts of Iron.
GAF seems to largely prefer easier games (With occasional exceptions like Dark Souls) and games with well tred mechanics that they are already highly accustomed to. I'm not saying that's bad, but it hardly strikes me as "hardcore." Just as it's okay to only play games like Wii Sports and Plants Vs. Zombies (both of which I think are good games, personally), but self identifying as "hardcore" in those circumstances would seem odd.
In short: I don't think I quite understand what "hardcore" means anymore. Most of GAF doesn't personally strike me as such, but I apparently don't strike most of GAF that way, either.
GAF focuses predominately on the mainstream side of things, in regards to community and interests it has a bigger overlap with forums like GameTrailers or Gamespot as opposed to SomethingAwful, where most of the old PC guys seem to hang out, so it's no surprise this is getting overlooked among heavy hitters like Halo or Assassins Creed. Hardcore is all about perspective, from where I'm standing GAF isn't really, but to some even going on a gaming forum is enough to be hardcore. But then again GAF had that awesome Project Eternity pledge drive so whatever.
As for GAFs disinterests with RTS and grand strategy games, most of the people here seemed to have grown up with a Super Nintendo or Genesis as opposed to a PC, and never developed a taste for those genres. Looking around a lot of the PC guys here are just that because the platform is allowing them to have a console-like experience for the first time. There's nothing wrong with that, but the history doesn't seem to be there.
People seem to be very forgiving with bad commanders at the moment, at least in the games I've played. You should just jump in and give it a go - its the best way to learnOriginally Posted by jaundicejuice
Damn this is such a fun game once you get a team of people communicating and playing together. I think Once I have a better understanding of map layouts, build orders and tech trees I'm going to try my hand at being a commander, after I watch the tutorial videos. You do learn a lot by playing with good and bad commanders.
(watch the videos first though instead of jumping in blind)
I have been in a lot of games where no one wants to be commander & marines end up losing because everyone wanders of aimlessly. So personally I'm just happy some one being in the chair!
Grand Strategy games are great t though. Hearts of Iron is just brutally good (victoria is good too).It's a whole lot less involved, they tried to make the alien commander have a mere 'influence' on the alien strategy and gameplay, rather than all out control like the marine commander. Regardless it was a necessary change for balance reasons.
GAF focuses predominately on the mainstream side of things, in regards to community and interests it has a bigger overlap with forums like GameTrailers or Gamespot as opposed to SomethingAwful, where most of the old PC guys seem to hang out, so it's no surprise this is getting overlooked among heavy hitters like Halo or Assassins Creed. Hardcore is all about perspective, from where I'm standing GAF isn't really, but to some even going on a gaming forum is enough to be hardcore. But then again GAF had that awesome Project Eternity pledge drive so whatever.
As for GAFs disinterests with RTS and grand strategy games, most of the people here seemed to have grown up with a Super Nintendo or Genesis as opposed to a PC, and never developed a taste for those genres. Looking around a lot of the PC guys here are just that because the platform is allowing them to have a console-like experience for the first time. There's nothing wrong with that, but the history doesn't seem to be there.
Happy to see the patch went out and fixed the pre-cache error. I did not have it for joinging games, but if I wanted to create my own server it would happen.
It is a reference to the commander from the first game. The way he siad "you're squad 5" was hilarious. Plus I am pretty sure every squad was squad 5. :DCan someone explain the Squad 5 thing?
Yep community is really good. You'll get your usual asshole every once in awhile but people usually tell him to stfuPeople seem to be very forgiving with bad commanders at the moment, at least in the games I've played. You should just jump in and give it a go - its the best way to learn
(watch the videos first though instead of jumping in blind)
I have been in a lot of games where no one wants to be commander & marines end up losing because everyone wanders of aimlessly. So personally I'm just happy some one being in the chair!
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