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Hiro_Kunimi_80
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(11-14-2012, 02:07 PM)
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Originally Posted by grimshawish

With Wii U out soon it'll look healthier.

i'm not so sure..
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 02:07 PM)

Originally Posted by hiska-kun

But the Best version releases tomorrow, so what's that?

The XL bundle
Man God
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(11-14-2012, 02:08 PM)
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Originally Posted by TreasureHunterG

I know what, 1 year ago, everyone was laughing and poking at 3DS being a failure. Impressive how things can change.

This week last year the 3DS did 103,000.
mclem
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(11-14-2012, 02:09 PM)

Originally Posted by watershed

So what are the total Animal Crossing numbers? And the Vita is soon to see the underside of 4K, damn.

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.
Cuddler
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(11-14-2012, 02:10 PM)
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Really good first week for Animal Crossing and the 3DS. I noticed that the 3DSLL has sold a lot more then the normal 3DS. Is this normal? I mean, is the DSiLL the best selling NDS version after it comes out? If this is true we can say that people are probably more interested in having a larger screen than having a smaller version that is more easy to carry around. Is it possible that Nintendo will go for a bigger version in the first place for its next handheld? If this is a stupid question ignore me

I was expecting more from the second week of Xilia 2, but judging by the other title drops posted here, it's nothing really new for a Tales of game.
UncleSporky
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(11-14-2012, 02:10 PM)

Originally Posted by StoppedInTracks

In other words:

3DS sold 95% of Vita's yearly HW sales in 1 week.

Fucking crazy. Vita is the line worker while 3DS is the CEO.

Wait, what? Vita's YTD is 589k. 3DS sold 31% of its yearly HW in 1 week.
Mpl90
Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
(11-14-2012, 02:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

Um. Isn't that Best Price MH3... not actually doing very well? I thought the cheaper rereleases usually shot up the charts with the PSP titles?

In cheerier news: Has there been a more successful new Square IP since Kingdom Hearts?

It's doing so well for not being released yet: it comes out tomorrow. :D
What you see in Famitsu chart is the 3DS bundle with MH3G preinstalled.
demidar
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(11-14-2012, 02:12 PM)
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I know they won't but they should include download numbers just to twist the knife.
DrWong
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(11-14-2012, 02:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

.
Mpl90
Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
(11-14-2012, 02:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Ghost-like.
AdventureRacing
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(11-14-2012, 02:13 PM)

Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Damn.
marc^o^
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(11-14-2012, 02:13 PM)
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Synergies between consoles and handhelds are much higher than they used to.

How could 3DS winning Japan big time not tremendously help Wii U, with shared brands, miiverse, cross play, Nintendo Account, Nintendo Direct, etc. ?
tnaden
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(11-14-2012, 02:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

9/10
HOT DAMN
Zeer0id
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(11-14-2012, 02:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hiro_Kunimi_80

i'm not so sure..

Wii U will fare at least decently in Japan (and probably great, as far as home consoles go); it's getting Mario and Monster Hunter at launch, that's quite a pairing. (EDIT: and the DQX beta)

Nothing will likely come close to dethroning 3DS at this point, however.
Last edited by Zeer0id; 11-14-2012 at 02:22 PM.
StoppedInTracks
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(11-14-2012, 02:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by UncleSporky

Wait, what? Vita's YTD is 589k. 3DS sold 31% of its yearly HW in 1 week.

Very good that you corrected me. Make that 3 weeks then. Still a huge fucking achievement on 3DS side and a chasmic underperformance on Vita's side.
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(11-14-2012, 02:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Damn that's cold.
AdventureRacing
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(11-14-2012, 02:19 PM)

Originally Posted by marc^o^

Synergies between consoles and handhelds are much higher than they used to.

How could 3DS winning Japan big time not tremendously help Wii U, with shared brands, miiverse, cross play, Nintendo Account, Nintendo Direct, etc. ?

Well i guess because they will be competing for Japenese 3rd party support. There is also the possibility that people continue to choose handhelds over home consoles.

I don't really see the synergy being very strong at all tbh. The biggest benefit for nintendo is that their brandname is remaining very strong.
nickcv
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(11-14-2012, 02:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by Zeer0id

Wii U will fare at least decently in Japan (and probably great, as far as home consoles go); it's getting Mario and Monster Hunter at launch, that's quite a pairing.

Nothing will likely come close to dethroning 3DS at this point, however.

you forgot DQX beta
demidar
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(11-14-2012, 02:19 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:20 PM)
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Type 0 for 3DS gets more likely each week. *is delusional*
DragonSworne
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(11-14-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by liger05

The 3DS doesnt dominate like it does in Japan but is still sells more than the vita comfortably.

Lol I'd still call it domination.
MarkusRJR
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(11-14-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hiro_Kunimi_80

i'm not so sure..

NSMBU + MH3G HD + DQ 10 pretty much says it will sell like crazy.

Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Holy shit. I can't even... lol
Zeer0id
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(11-14-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by nickcv

you forgot DQX beta

Indeed!
fabricated backlash
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(11-14-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by AdventureRacing

Well i guess because they will be competing for Japenese 3rd party support. There is also the possibility that people continue to choose handhelds over home consoles.

I don't really see the synergy being very strong at all tbh. The biggest benefit for nintendo is that their brandname is remaining very strong.

Yeah cross gaming still is a very much unproven proposition. There were some games that pulled it off (pokemon stadium titles) but as an actual business model that's viable for anyone else but system holders and privileged 3rd party partners it's really doubtfull that its going to matter.
Exterminieren
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(11-14-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Oh SHIT.
Aostia
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(11-14-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Just to tone down Nintendo's enthusiasm: is this the worst Wii week ever in Japan?
Smellycat
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(11-14-2012, 02:21 PM)
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Amazing numbers for Animal Crossing and 3DS.... can't say the same about Vita.
StoppedInTracks
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(11-14-2012, 02:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Impressive. Very high quality trolling of 2 Sony consoles in one sentence.
djplaeskool
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(11-14-2012, 02:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Even as an avid Vita supporter, I have to say, Bravo.
frankie_baby
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(11-14-2012, 02:22 PM)

Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

Type 0 for 3DS gets more likely each week. *is delusional*

If SE had any sense that would've happened by now, unfortunately SE have little sense
nickcv
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(11-14-2012, 02:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aostia

Just to tone down Nintendo's enthusiasm: is this the worst Wii week ever in Japan?

i literally chuckled XD
Hammer24
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(11-14-2012, 02:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by slaughterking

I wonder if that is something 3rd party publishers are actually okay with. In light of strong competition from other mobile devices it seems smart to build one really strong ecosystem on just one dedicated portable game machine instead of supporting two.

It should definitely make life easier, especially for smaller devs.
But from a consumer POV this lack of competition is troubling.
Chris1964
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(11-14-2012, 02:24 PM)

Originally Posted by Aostia

Just to tone down Nintendo's enthusiasm: is this the worst Wii Vita week ever in Japan?

Yes
MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by frankie_baby

If SE had any sense that would've happened by now, unfortunately SE have little sense

I think they suffer from autism and it just takes a while to click.
MikeE21286
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(11-14-2012, 02:24 PM)
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Man, the global outlook for this industry seems all types of messed up.

Handhelds dominating consoles in the East

Consoles in decline and smartphones/tablets making handhelds less relevant in the West

Weird...
Nibel
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(11-14-2012, 02:24 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

Holy shit

HOLY SHIT

Hero of Legend
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(11-14-2012, 02:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

LOL
Zeer0id
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(11-14-2012, 02:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

OH YOU
AdventureRacing
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(11-14-2012, 02:26 PM)

Originally Posted by Hammer24

It should definitely make life easier, especially for smaller devs.
But from a consumer POV this lack of competition is troubling.

I've said this so many times but this line of thought simply doesn't make sense any more. The 3DS's biggest competition is coming from smartphones and tablets, it doesn't matter if the vita is canned tomorrow the 3DS will still have heaps of competition.

It's not as if the consumer really had a tough time when the PS1 or PS2 were dominating either. If anything having an extremely healthy dominant platform seems to be great for the development of quality games.
allan-bh
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(11-14-2012, 02:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aostia


What we have:

MC: 602
Famitsu: 721
Iwata: 800 (600 shipped + 200 downloaded)

We can assume that Nintendo shipped 600K physical copies to the store: sold out. Nintendo shipped also hundreds thousands DD Card to retailers, and was able to sell more or less 120K of those cards to consumers. MC doesn't track them, while Famitsu does. Almost 80k people downloaded the game directly from the eshop without the DD cards.

More or less.

Don't believe virtually 100% sell through. Maybe 90%-95%.

With that in mind, maybe we're just seeing a case of trackers discrepancy and not Media Create not tracking download cards.
Mpl90
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(11-14-2012, 02:28 PM)
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Originally Posted by MagiusNecros

I think they suffer from autism and it just takes a while to click.

Eh, I'd say we should also count how much time an improved port could take to develop, between touch screen usage to be implemented, graphical changes and other things...
Nibel
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(11-14-2012, 02:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chris1964

Yes

I see what you did there Chris
Heavy
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(11-14-2012, 02:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by marc^o^

Synergies between consoles and handhelds are much higher than they used to.

How could 3DS winning Japan big time not tremendously help Wii U, with shared brands, miiverse, cross play, Nintendo Account, Nintendo Direct, etc. ?

I don't think those synergies are as significant as you think. Also don't think Japan would really care about that stuff. I'm skeptical of Wii U's success in Japan. I figure it'll have a really nice start and then taper off considerably until next Fall.
Tenki
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(11-14-2012, 02:29 PM)
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You can guess which console is yellow and which one is blue (Media Create sales):

Kazerei
(11-14-2012, 02:29 PM)
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Originally Posted by Aostia

MC: 602
Famitsu: 721
Iwata: 800 (600 shipped + 200 downloaded)

We can assume that Nintendo shipped 600K physical copies to the store: sold out. Nintendo shipped also hundreds thousands DD Card to retailers, and was able to sell more or less 120K of those cards to consumers. MC doesn't track them, while Famitsu does. Almost 80k people downloaded the game directly from the eshop without the DD cards.

More or less.

I thought it was 600k shipped for day 1, and 200k more shipped during the rest of the week? So 800k physical copies in total.
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(11-14-2012, 02:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

bang
klapauzius
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(11-14-2012, 02:30 PM)

Originally Posted by mclem

People were wondering if the PS4 would support 4K, but it looks like the Vita will get there first.

You are a god.
Aostia
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(11-14-2012, 02:30 PM)
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Originally Posted by Yaceka

NSMBU + MH3G HD + DQ 10 pretty much says it will sell like crazy.


I think that it will start selling well (Nintendo console during Holiday period, Mario and MH available with the DQ beta), but I'm not so sure that it will sell like crazy.

Back in the days, Wii was able to destroy the market thanks to the great motion sensor gaming idea: the sum of Wii Sport and Play was able to reflect the HW number for several months; Japan loved the motion gaming at the beginning.
I'm not so sure that the actual tablet-like controller will be as strong as the remote, honestly.

I think that also Nintendo is aware of this, and this is the reason why they are presenting New Mario (could it be considered their strongest home console brand? I think so) at launch, and this is the reasons I think they are working with third parties to get also MH and DQ project as soon as possible on the console (avoiding three-years of very light third party support as happened for the Wii)

So, the presence at launch of big IP is ture and real, but we should also consider that New Mario 2 for the 3DS (that's the best console on the market) is showing a little bit (or even more) of brand fatigue; that MHTriG Ultimate is not a brand new episode but the third iteration of a game that is already available, and more successfull, on the portable side of gaming; that DQ is the second iteration/hd porting of a MMOORPG, not a classic brand new Jrpg title.

Plus, a lot of softco (with the exception of Tecmo-Koei, that with its Mosou games could be a good partner for the Wii U in Japan, unlike on the Wii where there were few games of this genre, and were all late in the life cycle) are still very cautious about Wii U's support

last but not least: Wii U will not be a cheaper console as the Wii was back in the days

So, I don't know if it will be able to sell like crazy
MagiusNecros
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(11-14-2012, 02:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Mpl90

Eh, I'd say we should also count how much time an improved port could take to develop, between touch screen usage to be implemented, graphical changes and other things...

This is true, depending on if they used the 4gb standard cartridge or the supposed 8gb cartridges unless those were only rumored to be in use.
allan-bh
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(11-14-2012, 02:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kazerei

I thought it was 600k shipped for day 1, and 200k more shipped during the rest of the week? So 800k physical copies in total.

No, 200k is the number of downloads from eShop (includes retail download card apparently.)

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